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Eureqa
Hi Judgesurreal777. I came to give you a standard warning about infringing copyrighted content in creating the above article, now deleted under CSD G12 as a blatant copyright infringement, but I see you are a user with 30K plus edits and who has created 80 articles. That makes me think I can take it as read that you understand you can't post copyrighted content, but at the same time it raises flags in my mind about your past contributions. So can you explain what you were thinking and whether you have done this in the past?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:19, 23 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Damn. The first article I checked from the list of articles you created, Jan Assmann, was a wholesale, cut and paste, blatant copyright violation ofthis site, with the text persisting from the first version and through today, meaning I couldn't save any of it. (For lurkers, the article was created in April 2006. The Wayback Machine provides the word-for-word content from that website that was lifted from theversion as of November 2005.) Every person who worked on this article after you stole its content wasted their time, and now I have to start going through your contribution.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:47, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Please do. I have created many Good Articles and Featured Articles in my time, so I do not fear anything there is to find. Perhaps I made a stub or two that started as you describe, and I did not add to them over time so they stayed simple copies, but no malice was intended. And it is not nearly the disastrous circumstance that you are describing. I will do what I can to help fix any infringement that you find. Thank you Judgesurreal777 (talk) 01:50, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
 * If it just an unhappy coincidence that the first one I looked at was the only one, I will be glad.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:58, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Perhaps I will also start looking at my older articles for copyediting; after all, the rules may have tightened up a bit since 2006.Judgesurreal777 (talk) 02:02, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, I've just been forced to delete Mark Twain House as a copyvio of this site. Look, I do not enjoy this. I am glad you are offering to help to fix these problems you created but let's be clear: the rules were no different in 2006. I will scrub what I can and repost if possible.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:17, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok I'm getting other administrators involved. You simply cannot go around destroying Wikipedia content, including Good Articles, unilaterally. You are clearly out of control. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 02:18, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Please do, I will need the help. As a matter of fact I was just heading over to Contributor copyright investigations because I can do no more at this time.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:24, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually I can't report there yet because I am still not sure how wide your net of infringements are. I am still hoping this is more isolated than it appears to be.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:29, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Clathrate gun hypothesis appears clear of problems.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:32, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Alan Burnett looks okay.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:33, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Urban Runner is okay.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:38, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Mark Twain House has been scrubbed, as best I can. I suggest you start helping me out. You are not going to get any solace from other admininistrators to stop me from removing your copyright violations.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:02, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I believe they will agree that while copy editing is required and essential, deleting notable articles with 31 references with no consultation is against the rules just as much. I would think that at a time that Wikipedia is dying to attract new contributors, and retain older editors like me, we would be treated with more consideration. I worry about what's happening to new editors who don't have old friend who are editors. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 03:09, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I am spending hours removing copyvios that have exposed us to legal liability and I've only so far looked at five articles. Help me with the problem you created. I'm trying to understand what consideration you are due that you are not getting. You have a misunderstanding, which I may have fostered by writing quickly: the articles will be scrubbed if possible (unless all of the content is a copyvio). If I know an article is a copyvio, I will delete it so that the copyright infringement does not remain live, while I work on it. As I've said, Mark Twain House has been scrubbed; Jan Assmann is now scrubbed as well (I thought it was all a copyvio before); there's not much left. I can see from what you said to other administrators that you think it's just a minor thing that you started Eureqa as a copyvio, and that I am "refusing" to undelete it. What I really want you to understand is that it is grave and utterly incorrect error for you to start any article in this way, and that I should be desysopped if I undeleted it.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk)


 * Máire Breatnach, Winnie the Pooh in the Hundred Acre Wood, Tolkien's Ring, Lydney Park, St. Philip's School and Wethersfield High School (Connecticut)all appear okay. The Dark Crystal (video game) was started as a copyvio and had content persisting through today that has now been removed. PlayMakers Repertory Company has some results indicating it may have had borrowed text at the start but none of it persists.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:07, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree, and from now on I will sandbox my prototype articles if that helps. Perhaps I should have been clearer, I wanted the Eureqa article to be placed in my sandbox, since scrubbing it and re-posting it would have left no content to justify a live article. I also agree that any word for word copying should be scrubbed, but you must admit that deleting a whole, notable, referenced article is not what was intended by the guidelines. If we were to be so strict with all of Wikipedias articles, we would delete most of them, instead of improving them.Judgesurreal777 (talk) 04:22, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
 * If what you want is the trappings of the article – the infobox, and other non-prose elements, that would be fine (I'll create it at User:Judgesurreal777/Eureqa, which should become a blue link soon) but no, I won't admit that, in fact I believe it's simply incorrect. To the extent that's what you actually meant, then we were talking past each other.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:34, 23 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I've done some more more. Ofermod (band), Dawn of the Dragons, The Buccaneers of Shadaki, Ray Dooley, The Legacy of Vashna, Fire on the Water all appear okay. Flight from the Dark appears to have been a copyvio with persisting content, now scrubbed. Here's the sad part. I had to remove the entire plot sections fromThe Deathlord of Ixia and The Caverns of Kalte because you added it all in one edit, and it appears to have been taken from here and here but I'm not 100% sure they didn't take this content from your writing without attribution, but in the absence of any way to tell, I have to assume it's a copyvio. Can you shed any light? --Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 08:54, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Especially with regard to plot summaries, I believe I had at one time created articles on all the books of the Lone Wolf series, and had moved some text over as a base to rewrite into non-copywrited material, but after I realized they lacked sufficient notability to expand, could not find any references to bulk it up and re write it, and did not really know how to turn it into a List of Lone Wolf books page, I moved on to other articles. I know the books by heart so perhaps I can rewrite them without any template this time around. Moonriddengirl has explained what the issue is with the merges, and now I will be working on clearing the situation up.Judgesurreal777(talk) 00:06, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Contributor copyright investigation
Hi. User:Fuhghettaboutit asked me at my talk page to take a look at this situation, as I do a lot with copyright work on Wikipedia, and I'm afraid that in addition to copying from external sources (I found one more instance of that, in the article Kenji Williams), there is a major issue with mergers and splits that do not always completely identify their sources or, in some cases, identify them at all. :/ I realize that when you started helping with merging articles, this requirement was not well spelled out. The problem is that content on Wikipedia is no more public domain than most of what you find on the internet. While it is, of course, liberally licensed for reuse, we are required at the least to include reference to the copying in the history by providing a link to the original article in edit summary (in rare cases, where content is copied from more than one source, it may be sufficient to note that copying took place and to add a permanent section to the talk page identifying what those sources were). We will need to clean up and provide proper attribution for articles that were not handled in this way.

Because of this, and because of the copying from external sources, I have opened a "CCI" at Contributor copyright investigations/Judgesurreal777. This is meant to provide a systematic record of cleanup, to help avoid redundant labor and to make sure that content is not missed.

The easiest task here - and the one with which you might best be able to help - is in documenting the mergers. We need to fix those in accordance with the practices documented at Copying within Wikipedia. I notice that you handled a lot of requested mergers. Those will be relatively easy to repair, since the name of the article is in the merge template in the edit immediately prior to yours. A little trickier are those where you did not identify the source and it was not in response to a request in the article, such as at Ofermod (band) and in your second merge at Character design of Final Fantasy. In the first case, I correctly guessed that you had created the page from a now-deleted original article at Ofermod. In the second, I looked at your contribution history to other articles on the same day of the merge and found that the source had been Androgynous characters in Final Fantasy.

Locating content copied from external sources, of course, may be a little bit trickier. Hopefully, as the merges are annotated on the CCI list, it will become easier to isolate content that actually needs to be checked. Any content copied from external sources, I'm afraid, must be removed. The information can be rewritten, but we are not allowed to host content here that is copied from elsewhere unless it is compatibly licensed or public domain, except with brief and clearly marked quotations. Even if the sources are compatibly licensed or public domain, we are required to provide attribution - sometimes by law, and sometimes simply to avoid Plagiarism.

You will generally not be notified of any issues found in your individual CCI. As you have now been advised that copying content from external sites is a violation of policy, there is no need to continue warning you. The goal now is to clean up any problems that have already been introduced. If you want to keep track of issues, please watch that page. And I do have to ask you to please put content in your own words prior to hitting "save" on Wikipedia. Future copyright issues, now that you have been advised, may lead to a block of your account, which is absolutely not best for the project. :)

Please let me know at my talk page if you have any questions about this, the policies or the progress of your CCI. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:35, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

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re: Bravely Default: Flying Fairy
Sure, I'm all for it. I'll start poking at it tomorrow, there's been more information released since the start of summer- though I see you've already worked it up a bit.-- Pres N  05:12, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

FM Evolved grades
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re: Ikenie no Yoru
Sounds good, good luck with Guardian Cross! -- Pres N  22:11, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Ironically, while expanding it, I find out that Square Enix had nothing to do with the game- there's no source anywhere that says that any other company besides Marvelous Entertainment had anything to do with it. No idea why that got put on the page. -- Pres N  23:54, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

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Re: List of DS:Style products
Check the history. :) I gave it a go a while ago, the problem is that while game site interest died off in 2008, SE has since released a bunch more edugames in the series, all with nearly identical titles, so proving that it's comprehensive is a ton of work. I was thinking about doing List of Square Enix companion books next, actually. -- Pres N  05:58, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Square Enix Barnstar
 The Square Enix Barnstar

In recognition of the immense amount of work you have put in, both over the years and recently in knocking out the last obscure articles to make WP:SE entirely stub-free, I award you this, the first ever Square Enix barnstar!  Pres N  19:18, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Lists
Ugh, but the lists we have left are all so boring and/or tedious. Who really cares about Square Enix budget ranges? Not me. Not to mention that FLC caps you at one nomination at a time, and each nomination takes a month, and I already have two lined up after my current one finishes what with List of Square Enix companion books (aka "Ultimanias are cool, you guys").

Actually, this character list has made me think of something- the only Xenogears article not to be GA+ is Characters of Xenogears. It's quite long, and normally finding sources would be a huge mess... except that while doing the Companion books list I found out that a few years ago someone went and translated the entire Xenogears Perfect Works book... and put it on flickr. It might be fun to see if I can parlay that into a GA, and come back to the lists later. -- Pres N  21:02, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, FLC is supposed to be 10 days to 2 weeks, but there's a dearth of reviewers right now so it takes quite a bit longer to get that last "support". -- Pres N  23:49, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Blocked him for a month, and yeah, seems like only your main user page was protected, not the subpages. Think I got them all, same level of protection as your main page-autoconfirmed users only, no IP addresses. Left your talk page open as, well, it's a talk page, but I can close that as well if you'd like. -- Pres N  05:01, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
 * GRIN now moved to Grin. -- Pres N  18:42, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Kasumi (Dead or Alive)/GA2
Bump. --Niemti (talk) 16:18, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

There were several days now without any answer, despite my bumping. I'm just asking to finish a review, that's all. If you don't want to finish it for whatever reason, you can give it to someone else. --Niemti (talk) 01:35, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Character articles
Alright, moved them all- only one was really messy (original cut-and-paste move, so the article histories had to be merged)- the rest just needed admin permission to delete the target page as the history had 2 items in it, not 1. -- Pres N  18:46, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll give making the bar a shot! I haven't done too much on Chars of Xenogears yet, though I've seen the tons of work you've been doing all over the rest of the project- good job! -- Pres N  23:10, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Doesn't look like I'll be able to- best I've got is this page, but the issue is that the bars are done by adding and dividing the number of articles in categories- getting how many articles have tags requires going through each article and seeing if its a member of any of a bunch of WP-wide categories, which is a bit much for a little template. That page I linked is linked to from the main project page, next to the brush on the right side- I suppose it could be made more prominent. -- Pres N  23:20, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Article Feedback deployment
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Re: Kefka Palazzo
Blitzed it- I wish that the attributes section was a bit thicker (though you have the sources you have, eh?) and I think the lead could use a couple more sentences, but other than that I think it's good to nominate and see what comes up. -- Pres N 02:19, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Other articles
Hah, I was going to ask you if you wanted to work on Vaan or Balthier with me to save the GT, since they're almost there... only to see that they're already GANs. So... nevermind. On another note- I saw that you picked up the Mighty Jill Off GAN, and that New Age Retro Hippie hasn't been on in a month- if he doesn't pop up in the next few days, let me know and I'll take over for him. I never picked up the review since I did a copyedit for the article, and I feel bad letting it die. -- Pres N  02:29, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Did the Mighty Jill Off GAN bits. . -- Pres N  20:44, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

PROD of The Codex
Hey there Judgesurreal777,

Back in the day when I was more active on Wikipedia (2006-2009-ish), I was always on the fence as to whether The Codex was notable enough for an article. It does have the one lengthy article in the "Further reading" section (which appears in various different forms in different publications, but more or less the same content by the same author), and the Long Tail entry/review by Chris Anderson (arguably an acceptable WP:SPS expert source), but I was never able to find substantially more. (And then there was that Rockets on Prisoner award, which was known at the time in 2005, but the award was never shown to be really notable). So I agree with its deletion, but you might want to clarify your deletion rationale to note that there is essentially only one independent, non-self-published source with substantial coverage. I'd endorse that PROD reason. —TKD  [talk]  [c] 06:15, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I think we really do need an umbrella Halo machinima article or something like that. Aside from Red vs. Blue and maybe a couple others, most individual productions aren't going to make the cut for a full article, but there's a lot written about the phenomenon as a whole (and legal issues and what-not). Sadly, I'm about 4(?) seasons behind on Red vs. Blue. I need to reserve a day sometime and catch up. —TKD  [talk]  [c] 05:00, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Heh, I wrote a good chunk of the machinima article way back when. My gut is that there still may be room for a Halo-specific article, but I could be wrong about that.—TKD  [talk]  [c] 20:01, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Re: Hey
Sorry for the delay, I'm suffering from a lack of internet access at the moment, and I've got an arb case I'm dealing with. Your article's next on my list :) Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 13:12, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Barnstar
I agree, the WP:HALO group definitely cooperates well and it shows in the number of high quality articles. I just wanted to let you know that your work is appreciated. :) James086 Talk  08:06, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

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