User talk:Juggalobrink/Archive 2

FlickR
From what I've learned, you need to not only ask the owner of the image if it's okay to upload the image onto Wikimedia Commons, but you also need them to email OTRS confirming that they have given their permission for that image to be used. That page should have all the details you need. (Sugar Bear (talk) 22:59, 25 August 2009 (UTC))

IP blocked
Hey there! I've blocked him for a week, so you can rest now. :) Thanks for letting me know! Cheers, Master of Puppets  - Call me MoP! :D  02:24, 2 September 2009 (UTC)


 * No problem! Feel free to tell me if anything else pops up and troubles you. Cheers, Master of Puppets  - Call me MoP! :D  11:56, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Carnival of Carnage
Hi there. Could you take a look at Carnival of Carnage and make some expansions and corrections based on the sources (Behind the Paint, etc.)? I copied and reworked pieces from other articles, and it still needs some work. (Sugar Bear (talk) 00:41, 19 February 2010 (UTC))
 * Thanks. I also just learned that Blaze's albums are up for deletion. You might want to leave a comment there. (Sugar Bear (talk) 20:57, 20 February 2010 (UTC))


 * Is there any other information on the recording of the album, the lyrics and the music that can be added? (Sugar Bear (talk) 19:27, 21 February 2010 (UTC))


 * Noraft is reviewing the article's GAN. Could you take a look at his comments and see if you can work from his suggestions? (Sugar Bear (talk) 20:28, 7 April 2010 (UTC))

File:PondoSilencer.jpg listed for deletion
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:PondoSilencer.jpg, has been listed at Files for deletion. Please see the to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Angus McLellan (Talk) 17:24, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

RE
The agreement was vague. It was mainly for the TNA titles. It should be okay.-- Will C  23:44, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

The Amazing Jeckel Brothers
Gen. Quon has nominated The Amazing Jeckel Brothers as a GAC. Could you take a look at the article and make any expansions or corrections needed, and add sources for bits without citations? (Sugar Bear (talk) 20:34, 10 May 2010 (UTC))

DYK for Bloodymania
The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

?
Just wondering, why do you like ICP? In my opinion they just talk sort of fast, and it hurts my ears. Not even the lyrics mean shit. I'm not trying to troll on you or make fun of you. I just want to know - why?! --The Dark Lord of Wiki (talk) 15:08, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Bullying
Wikipedia is, for very good reason, extremely sensitive about biographies of living people. The sentences I cut from Insane Clown Posse were poorly sourced and inappropriate, and I explained what was wrong with them contemporaneously with their removal.

Unfortunately, you chose to accuse me of vandalism, which is dishonest and uncivil. You can disagree with my view of content, but you cannot use the pretense of vandalism to justify edit-warring. Given your name, it is evident that you are a fan of ICP, which quite likely explains why you are biased on this matter and have a mistaken understanding of what constitutes notability and neutrality. I recommend that you remain keenly aware of your inherent bias and strive to counter it.

If you work with me and others, I am sure we can come to a reasonable compromise. However, if you continue to try to intimidate me into allowing you to damage the article, I will not hesitate to report you. Also, if you escalate this to a full edit war, I will personally ensure that you are blocked for an extended period.

I hope you understand your error and will not repeat it. Dylan Flaherty (talk) 18:21, 28 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Please don't call differences of opinion over content "vandalism". Doing so assumes the worst of another editor and can be cause for a block if you continue. Shell   babelfish 21:49, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Self-revert
Please revert this change. The stated reason for it is false and uncivil, and the text you reinstated has been shown to be completely false, which makes it unacceptable for use on a BLP. If you do not do this, I will escalate to the BLP violation report page. And, of course, if you continue to be uncivil, I will report you for that as well.

Just revert it. Dylan Flaherty (talk) 23:11, 28 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Not only did you fail to revert your error, you continued it by once again accusing me of vandalism simply for disagreeing with you. I will follow up appropriately. Dylan Flaherty (talk) 12:55, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

ICP's putative Christianity
I'm sure you're sick of this issue, but the sentences about Ronson asking questions that assume Christianity and ICP's failure to deny Ronson's implications are two halves of a single point. Without the "didn't deny" part, I don't see any point in mentioning the questions. NillaGoon (talk) 16:22, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi Jb - I think we're pretty much on the same page as far as interpretation. I'm just making the point that neither sentence makes sense on its own; they should either be both in or both out.

But since you mention it, I am in fact a bit unclear about your reservations regarding Ronson's interview. That relevant part is in fact a Q&A, with everything from both sides in quotation marks. It's certainly possible that Ronson is reassembling material out of order and with pertinent information removed, but if so, he's doing it in violation of generally accepted journalistic standards.

My objection is more along the lines of "even if the conversation was exactly as transcribed, that's pretty weak evidence." Especially in light of the contradiction from ICP that came soon after. NillaGoon (talk) 05:36, 4 November 2010 (UTC)


 * ICP never denied being Christian. Dylan Flaherty (talk) 13:32, 4 November 2010 (UTC)


 * "I think its crazy how some press say we're a christian band..." Seems pretty clear to me. NillaGoon (talk) 15:09, 4 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Nilla, many Christians are in bands but aren't in Christian bands. Seems pretty clear to me. Dylan Flaherty (talk) 23:50, 4 November 2010 (UTC)


 * But if you agree that the band is not necessarily Christian just because the members are or may be Christian, why do you have trouble closing the loop to declare that the band members are not necessarily "evangelical Christians"? The only evangelizing that's going on is in the music and in the in-makeup band interviews. If the band evangelizes something other than Christianity, as Violent J states and you seem to agree, then it's misleading to call the individual members "evangelical Christians". They may be Christians who evangelize something, but they are not evangelical Christians. NillaGoon (talk) 06:21, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, I would agree that a band can be composed entirely of Christians, all of whom evangelize and/or are Evangelicals, without being a Christian band. After all, the private life of musicians is just that; private. However, when they use their music to send religious messages, that changes matters.
 * It's not even that ICP's lyrics are "spiritual" or have aspects that could be interpreted as religious, but that they speak in plain terms about God. To quote, from "Thy Unveiling":
 * Fuck it, we got to tell.
 * All secrets will now be told
 * No more hidden messages
 * …Truth is we follow GOD!!!
 * We've always been behind him
 * The carnival is GOD
 * And may all juggalos find him
 * We're not sorry if we tricked you.
 * This is about as subtle as a boot to the head.
 * While all of this makes it clear to me why the ICP may reasonably be considered a Christian band and to be evangelizing, I've conceded that "evangelical Christians" is misleading due to the existence of Evangelical Christians. I don't know that we're all that far apart on this.

Dylan Flaherty (talk) 13:25, 5 November 2010 (UTC)