User talk:Juhee Cha

Student Training Finished
Hello,professor. I'm Juhee Cha. I completed student training moudules. I make it! So I send you a message. Thank You. Juhee Cha (talk) 13:21, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Good job! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here

re: Acticle Topic
Good choices. The topic of personal media is notable and missing. I think it is a challenging topic, so here's a bit of help from me: there are good sources out there (,, ,  but be careful and avoid unreliable websites and blogs like ). Part-time jobs in South Korea is also a notable topic, but likewise it may be challenging. Since you are going to be writing one article on a new topic in English already perhaps instead of the second English article you may want to consider translating two articles from English to Korean; translation is a bit easier than writing from scratch. For one class, you can write an English article, for another, translate two articles from English to Korean. This is just a suggestion, both of your topics for English are good. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 01:10, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, you can. Good luck! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 01:18, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Personal media moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Personal media, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. TheImaCow (talk) 17:59, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Personal media (April 24)
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Sulfurboy (talk) 13:40, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Part-time jobs of South Korea


The article Part-time jobs of South Korea has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Article does not indicate the reason why part-time jobs of South Korea are notable, failing WP:N. At best, what little is in this article can be selectively merged to the Part-time job article. Furthermore, the only section of the article defines the term 'part-time job' in Korean, failing WP:NOT."

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 * Just a clarification: while part-time Jobs of South Korea could be a potentially notable topic, the article in its current form did not explain why the topic was notable and worthy of a standalone article. If you can indicate the notability of the topic, preferrably through addition of verifiable sources, I would be happy to review my proposed deletion. --Dps04 (talk) 15:30, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello. I want to note that this editor is a student working for the wiki class project and I am the instructor. I asked my students to work in the sandbox, but not everyone followed that instructions, so some early drafts are in the mainspace. First, I would suggest moving the article to the student userspace instead of the prod. Second, wouldn't you say that the notability of the subject is demonstrated by newspaper articles addressing it like and, not to mention this book source? When notability is not clearly demonstrated (but apparent with BEFORE), I believe tagging the article with notability is sufficient, and there is no need for a PROD (I say this as someone who has done 1000s of prods and has even been criticized for being to "proddy" :>). PS. Given the existing sources, particularly the book, I think the article does not warrant a prod, nor a move to the userspace (although said move would make the article eligible for a DYK when the expansion is finished in a month or two). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  02:17, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey Piotrus, thanks for the explanation. I have had a chance to review the newer version of the article, as well as the sources that you have cited. The first source is merely an op-ed which talks about labour reform and the South Korean government's response towards unemployment in the country, with a brief mention of part-time jobs in the country, whereas the second source is a news article which focuses on employment trends and statistics in South Korea. Part-time jobs are mentioned in the article, but there wasn't a lot mentioned specifically about the topic in those sources either. Therefore, I still think it is better if the contents in this article are selectively merged with the Part-time job article, similar to how the article currently describes part-time jobs in Australia, Canada and the United States (and those topics didnt get a standalone article either).


 * Having said that, I accept the argument that, just because part-time jobs in those countries haven't got standalone articles, this shall not necessarily mean the current article is mot notable, although i remain wary about whether there is a lot to expand in this article. Nevertheless, given some of my doubts as to WP:N have been addressed, and that the article has expanded beyond a mere dictionary definition as it was earlier (so it no longer fails into WP:NOT), I am gonna give the article the benefit of the doubt, and remove the prod tag. Thanks for your explanation. (And thanks for your efforts as a wiki class instructor as well :)) --Dps04 (talk) 06:01, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Review of Draft:Personal media
It is a good start. The article will need more expansion, it is very short right now (check the average length of past articles submitted for this assignment to see how much longer, I'd say at least 3x-4x the current size. The structure is good. The section title 'background of apperance' is unclear, please retitle it. 3) The section 'personal media platform' needs a sentence that explaisn what is being listed. Why do you list generic concepts like blog and together with specific companies like YouTube (which is just a type of a video sharing website? 4) References need formatting. 1 and 2 don't have URLs. Please use Citation templates. You can see how to do so in our videos where I show how to make edits. Overall, it is a good start and it mostly satisfies our deadline for outline, but it will need more work before the project is finished. But again, it's a pretty solid start for Week 7! Good job! PS. Since you submitted is a a draft (instead of a sandbox edit as I suggested in the video), the process will also involve a review by a random volunteer. I am unsure when the review will happen, but the comments it provide will be interesting. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 02:11, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Review of Part-time jobs of South Korea
Like above, it is a good start that will need significant expansion over the next two months. Please make sure the article uses citation templates. Please try to find higher quality sources like academic journals and books; this is a very good source and should be used more in the development of the article. Anyway, good job starting your projects! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 02:19, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Good job
Making your weekly 10 edits. Keep it up! If you make more than 10 edits, each extra 10 edits (on average) will count for an extra credit point. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 10:41, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

re: Wiki Assignment Deadline 4, Juhee Cha
Very nice progress, your outlines look pretty solid! Keep up the good job! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 06:58, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

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Hello, Juhee.
My name is Gyongmin, and I'm taking the lecture 'Collective Intelligence' like you. For our Deadline 5, all of us need to review another colleague's article, which I'm sure you'd also know about. So, I chose to review your article that you are expanding in your sandbox(User:Juhee_Cha/Part-time_jobs_of_South_Korea). I could read it very easily, since you formatted the article so well, and most of the references seemed reliable even at first sight. I just have a couple of things to tell you and hope that my feedback could be at least a little bit of assistance when completing your final assignment.

1. I couldn't quite get what the phrase "distinguishing part-time jobs from actors' characteristics (students, teenagers, housewives, etc.) or purposes (part-time jobs or incidental activities) does not reflect reality properly." is trying to express. Maybe a little more explanation about this phrase might be needed for easier understanding.

2. The pronunciation that you wrote al-ba and A-r-byte would look prettier if it would be written like this: al-ba (Korean: 알바), A-r-byte (Korean: 아르바이트). Like other articles containing Korean word pronunciation.

3. Lastly, about the word freeters you used, this is the first time I saw this so I'm not 100% sure about this, but is freeter and Fritters the same thing? The contextual meaning seems the same to me when I read the article, but those two different words are suggested all of a sudden and it seems a little bit confusing. If you are ok with it I think using only one word might be better. But if it's just my misunderstanding and if those two have different meanings, I owe you an apology.

I had a great time reading your article. Even though there are some contents not yet written, there was still some information to learn about even for a guy like me, who has lived most of his life in Korea. I think your article will be a great help to people from other countries who are looking for information about part-time jobs in South Korea. I'll be pulling for your best of luck, and hope to see your article as an updated version again. Thank you for your time reading this. -- Gyongmin  M  10:19, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you!! Juhee Cha (talk) 08:25, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

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Hello, I read the article well!
Hello! I read the article well. It was a very empathetic article because I also had experience working part-time. Especially, the table was easy to understand. If you develop this article further, I think you can deliver good information about Korean part-time jobs to many people. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chunyoungryun(2016014102) (talk • contribs) 06:21, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Review of User:Juhee Cha/Personal media
Good job overall! Here are things we should fix: Very good job overall, I think you are 90% done! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 07:53, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * the article needs a lead/summary/abstract. See WP:LEAD. If you intend for the current first two paragraphs to be the lead, please note that the lead should not contain any new content, so you'll need to copy that content and merge it with the rest of the article.
 * what is the source of the images?
 * images need a better description, at least a full sentence. Why do the objects/symbols shown represent 'personal media' or 'process of change'?
 * for references, please expand them by adding 1) English translated title for Korean sources (do not replace the Korean title, but add translation using the |trans-title code, see my video on referencing articles on how to do it in visual editor 2) name of the publisher instead of the website name, ex. for www.cogito.or.kr it should be Cogito
 * The sentence about Spoon Radio is out of place, why discuss this particular app and not another one? We also need a better reference than to the Apple Store (see WP:SPS and WP:PRIMARY)
 * the section 'Background' should probably be the first, before 'Features'.
 * the section 'process of change' has a confusing name as it does not explain what is being changed; the world change is not used in the section at all outside the heading
 * if you cannot think of what to add to the 'See Also' section please remove it
 * don't forget to capitalize the first letter of a section title
 * you should try to add some more hyperlinks (blue links; see WP:BTW)

Review of User:Juhee Cha/Part-time jobs of South Korea
Please let me know when you address those issues and I can give you further feedback. Good job! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 07:53, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * in addition to some similar issues as in the other article (expand / translate references, capitalization, more hyperlinks) I also noticed this:
 * there are some unreferenced paragraphs, please reference them. Related issue is that
 * some paragraphs are very short, please merge them so that the blocks of text are bigger. Please see Writing_better_articles.

Second review round for your articles
User:Juhee Cha/Part-time jobs of South Korea is almost ready, all that is needed is to 1) add English title translation to the references 2) remove bold formatting from the subheadings 3) for the book 아르바이트 노동의 개념과 특성 you should add page ranges you read and cited, so that the reader who wants to double-check things in the book can only read small number of pages, and does not have to search for info in the entire book and 4) see if you can some photos to the article, either from Wikimedia Commons or (for extra credit) your own photos you have taken yourself and you can upload.

User:Juhee Cha/Personal media seems all good! Very nice job!

Both your articles are ready to be moved to the mainspace (click the 'More' pull-down menu in the top right, and move them to the article mainspace). After that, I encourage you go nominate them for the main page at T:TDYK for extra credit, see our video on how you'd an do this. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 05:07, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Very good. The last item to do is to add categories[[, You may also consider submitting your work to [[WP:DYK for the front page exposure, see our video on how to do it. Very nicely done! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 01:29, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Deletion discussion about Personal media
Hello, Juhee Cha, and welcome to Wikipedia. I edit here too, under the username North8000, and I thank you for your contributions.

I wanted to let you know, however, that I've started a discussion about whether an article that you created, Personal media, should be deleted, as I am not sure that it is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia in its current form. Your comments are welcome at Articles for deletion/Personal media.

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North8000</b> (talk) 14:07, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Personal media


Hello, Juhee Cha. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Personal media".

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:11, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Part-time jobs of South Korea


Hello, Juhee Cha. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Part-time jobs of South Korea".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the, , or  code.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:05, 3 January 2021 (UTC)