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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 22:03, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: VC-7 Squadron (January 18)
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Slywriter (talk) 21:18, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: VC-7 Squadron (March 28)
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Utopes (talk / cont) 15:32, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:VC-7 Squadron has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:VC-7 Squadron. Thanks! Utopes (talk / cont) 18:55, 28 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Utopes,
 * In your message you said that VC-7 might still rate a separate article if a valid case could be made for that. I would like to suggest why a separate article is merited.  First of all, VC-7 and RVAH-7 have distinct insignia or patches. As the daughter of a member of the VC-7 squadron, I know how important the “Sunday Punch” was to the men of the squadron and still is to this day.  As a part of Navy tradition, the different insignia indicate a distinct squadron.  The RVAH-7 insignia does not represent VC-7 and would not be recognized by the men of the “Sunday Punch”.
 * Secondly, VC-7 and the other Heavy Attack Composite Squadrons were vital to saving Naval Aviation. After World War II, there was an effort to consolidate all aviation into the Air Force. The Secretary of Defense at the time felt the Naval aviation had no role to play in the era of the atomic bomb. When the VC squadrons were formed, their first task was to prove that atomic weapons could be carried by planes that could take off from and land on carriers.  The VC squadrons demonstrated with various aircraft, that nuclear weapons could indeed be delivered from carriers.  Later designations of the squadron were operating in a much different environment since the VC squadrons had already made the case for Naval aviation and the value of carrier based nuclear weapon delivery.
 * Thirdly, though our article says that nuclear weapons delivery was the role of RVAH-7, it seems that was not the major role of RVAH-7. Their insignia calls them a reconnaissance heavy attack squadron. The role as listed with the insignia is stated as photo reconnaissance—a very different role than that of VC-7.  I would agree that the person who added the statement that RVAH-7’s role was nuclear weapons delivery made an error and that should be corrected.
 * I think that VC-7 deserves its own Wikipedia entry. I would suggest that a cross reference to the RVAH-7 article would be the most useful way of handling the connection between the squadrons.  I look forward to your questions and comments. Juile Brown (talk) 19:05, 18 April 2024 (UTC)