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Hi - thanks for your feedback - i will try and change my username. I did not realise - I should have checked first So would it be ok to be Jules at Educate&Celebrate ? Educatecelebrate (talk) 22:11, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure, that's a good username. I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a &#123;&#123;Talkback&#125;&#125; message on my talk page. @ 22:26, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Elly Barnes (educator) (November 24)
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 * In addition: Most of the article is copyvio. Furthermore, the tone is such that I think the rest is copyvio also from previously published sources. In addition,   the article is promotional. Rewrite from scratch, not just modifying phrases a little, but using entirely different language and arrangement.   using a neutral tone and eliminating jargon such as "continued to expand her remit." Don't use unsourced quotes. Don;t include any unsourced assertions  such as "Her actions were radical in so far that Section 28, which banned teachers from ‘promoting’ and ‘publishing’ homosexual material was only repealed in 2003 and LGBT-Inclusion was not supported by school or government policies." Either this information was published by a third party  and can be cited, or it is your original conclusion.
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Elly Barnes has emailed permission and it is OTRS pending

The article has been completely rewritten and has been resubmitted 3 December 2014 JulesatEducate&#38;Celebrate (talk) 07:54, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

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I have posted this response on DGG's talk page: I have removed reference to being 'highly commended by TES' as I could not find documented evidence in the public domain to support this. In terms of independent substantial evidence currently there are three key areas I cite that refer to the ground-breaking and unique role Barnes has in challenging homophobia in schools: 1. Barnes is employed as a LGBT special schools advisor by Birmingham City Council (ref 9) 2. Barnes is employed as a LGBT special schools advisor by Durham County Council (ref 10) 3. The Ofsted report that quotes and references the work of Barnes as 'best practice' (ref 11) The fact Barnes was recognised for her work by being number 1 on the Independent on Sunday Pink List in 2011 and in the top quartile in subsequent years is in itself an independent verification and valid reference. Sue Perkins also includes these as wikipedia references. There are a number of independent newspaper and news references that I can add but I did not want this to be disproportionate to content provided. I believe the language used is dry and factual, not self promotional and this is one of the things I amended based on your previous feedback. I have been reading the wiki-guidance and reviewing other articles on comparable individuals that cite no or very few references to support statements made about them e.g Sue Sanders, Shaun Dellenty so there still seems to be a lack of consistency across wikipedia regarding this point. Of course I am happy to review content and do some more work on the article before I resubmit. JulesatEducate&#38;Celebrate (talk) 01:38, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Following further feedback I have removed two further paragraphs under the 'Educate & Celebrate' heading as further advice given indicated they were not biographical. Plus I have added 4 x newspaper citations, 3 x Guardian and 1 x Independent in response to your notability point. There are other news references I could add if necessary but these 4 are the key ones I think. JulesatEducate&#38;Celebrate (talk) 13:32, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

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A number of further updates have been made: removal of the reference to Barnes being a 'Huffpost blogger', alteration of wording and a new image to make the article seem less promotional. JulesatEducate&#38;Celebrate (talk) 22:14, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

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Hi - That image is not being used and can be deleted. We did obtain permission from the photographer but used an alternative image for the Elly Barnes wikipedia page. JulesatEducate&#38;Celebrate (talk) 08:11, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

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Hi - sorting the evidence now, thanks.

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The email permission has been emailed now and the relevant .JPG reference has been added for ease of approval. Thanks.

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JulesatEducate&#38;Celebrate (talk) 08:38, 9 March 2021 (UTC) Thanks - I have addressed that issue.

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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. —me_and 14:24, 17 March 2021 (UTC) You have given me no time to respond to this before you have suggested the page i edited it deleted. i am not a paid wikipedia editor for this page - I have very clearly stated i am a trustee of educate & celebrate, which is a charity. I am about to do some more editing of the page, and will review the other points you have made. Thank you for the feedback. JulesatEducate&#38;Celebrate (talk) 14:44, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

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I find it incredibly unhelpful that you have posted three comments in a very short space of time and not let me respond before you have suggested deletion of this page. I feel LGBT+ history and organisations are being erased on here - but if the Stonewall charity, a UK charity is on here, then Educate & Celebrate (a UK-based charity) should be in this space too. I know there are rules about posting and you can surely see that I am trying to update the page recently. Presumably if I had not bothered to try and update it, no one would have noticed, but as soon as you try and change anything on here, people jump on your amendments. I feel really deflated, and i am such a fan of Wikipedia. JulesatEducate&#38;Celebrate (talk) 14:56, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

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 * Hi, I have requested the page Elly Barnes is deleted as it is out of date and there seem to be a number of violations flagged. If you are an admin, please assist and delete, thank you. JulesatEducate&#38;Celebrate (talk) 17:25, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: Elly Barnes
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 * Hi - I created the page and there are a list of things wrong with it, including conflict of interest as I have a personal relationship with Elly Barnes. Plus there was an issue with the image. I will amend the reason to a correct one. Thank you for your assistance. JulesatEducate&#38;Celebrate (talk) 17:31, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi, I have added a correct reason for speedy deletion now I hope. Thank you. JulesatEducate&#38;Celebrate (talk) 17:34, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
 * You cannot restore speedy deletion or PROD tags after they have been declined. If you would like to nominate the article for deletion, please follow the instructions at WP:AFDHOWTO. Spicy (talk) 09:50, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi - I am not trying to restore speedy deletion - I understand this is not possible. I marked the page simply for deletion - can you please assist with deleting it? JulesatEducate&#38;Celebrate (talk) 09:53, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your help - hopefully I have marked this page correctly for deletion now. JulesatEducate&#38;Celebrate (talk) 09:56, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello, you have not properly nominated the article for deletion. Please see step "II" of WP:AFDHOWTO and create the discussion page so that it can be properly listed. Thank you,  Heart  (talk) 10:35, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you - I have addressed that now. JulesatEducate&#38;Celebrate (talk) 10:54, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay, please format the page as JulesatEducate&#38;Celebrate (talk) 10:53, 3 June 2023 (UTC). Also be sure to list it at the top of this page by adding at the top of the list. Good luck,  Heart  (talk) 11:04, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your help! JulesatEducate&#38;Celebrate (talk) 12:42, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Hello. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Elly Barnes, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: In order for WP:G7 to be eligible, the only substantial contributions must be from the author, which isn't as multiple IPs have edited the page. Thank you. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 19:08, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

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