User talk:Julia W/Archive 3

IP vandal at ACC
Hi Julie. I've got a little question for you! :) I've came across a request where the particular IP received various warnings for vandalism. Should I create the user, or not? Kind regards,  Lourie Pieterse  18:09, 1 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Hmmm, there isn't an easy answer to that question: you have to use your judgement. The short answer is yes, you do, and there are a few reasons for that.  First, the user may be an AOL customer, and AOL proxies are blocked permanently.  It would be crazy to not allow any AOL customers to create accounts, of course, so we generally just have to assume good faith and create the accounts.  Second, if the vandalism is not recent (I consider recent anything within the last few days), then I would safely assume that the person requesting the account is probably not the one who has been vandalising.  Third, even if the vandalism is recent, check the IP contributions for the rate of vandalism.  Has the IP been having a vandalism spree and creating havoc in short periods of time?  More likely and more usually, you will find the odd vandalising edit here or there, and you should assume that, even if it is the same vandal creating an account, they will likely not cause wise-spread disruption as soon as they log in.  It's an extension of assuming good faith; we can't be sure, but we can't just assume the worst.  On the other hand, if there are a lot of vandalising edits (say, from a school IP) and the person requesting an account makes a silly or rude comment in their request, you could (again, use your judgement) be justified in just dropping the request instead of creating the account . . . chances are, it's a bored school kid looking to make a mess in Wikipedia, ;-)  Make sure that, for every request, you check the block logs as well as the IP contributions.  You won't be able to see deleted edits in their contributions (ie, new pages), so it's always best to check to see if a block is in place.  Remember the AOL proxies though; they will show as blocked, but you should probably create the account anyway.  Sorry if that was all more general than you wanted, but I don't know the specifics.  Hope that helps!    Mae din \talk 18:30, 1 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh, and another thing, if you aren't sure whether to create or not, we sometimes create and then watch the account for a while, maybe a day or so. It just helps to ensure that if you have made a boo-boo and given a vandal an account, you can at least intervene and take to AIV if necessary.  It will also help to show you just how often those "suspicious" requests actually end up not making edits at all . . .!  You may also want to consider joining the accounts channel on IRC.  When I'm unsure, I sometimes ask for other opinions there, :-)  Mae din \talk 18:37, 1 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, hahaha that is what I sort of does. Yes, I did created the account. I manually add a welcome message to talk pages, this way I could easily see in my watchlist if a user gets a warning. So I keep a little eye on these shady requests. I always checks the IP talk page, block log, ect. Maybe I should join the IRC channel... Thanks for the reply!  Lourie Pieterse  18:50, 1 July 2009 (UTC)


 * You're welcome, and sorry if I was teaching you to suck eggs, ;-) Mae din \talk 19:29, 1 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't say that. I've learned something! Its a little later in my time zone than in yours, so I going to say goodbye now. I've still a part of research to finish on Peek's law, so I would rather finish that before going to bed. Good night!  Lourie Pieterse  19:54, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Accounts on IRC
Hi Julie. I've got IRC yesterday and started to get the grip of it. Didn't see you on any of the channels. Would like to chat sometime with you. Kind regards,  Lourie Pieterse  19:20, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Lourie, I usually only hang around on the accounts channel, but today I have been working and watching tennis, and after that I forgot to sign in, :-) Look forward to chatting with you soon!  Mae din \talk 19:23, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Chester Grosvenor and Spa
I've added some more information, taken from Simon Ward's recently published Chester: A History. This states that the Grosvenors bought the building in 1815 (earlier than is suggested in the Virtual Stroll). Simon Ward is one of Chester's senior archaeologists, and I accept that he is more likely to be authoritative than the author of the Virtual Stroll(!). Hope this expansion is OK by you. I think this article has further to go, but many thanks for starting it (and I hope my edits have not had an adverse effect on your DYK). Cheers. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 16:43, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I am pleased that you have the material available to expand the article. You are lucky; I have no money for reference books.  I never thought when I started it that so much information would be available.  Thank you for what you've added; I'm sure it won't hurt the DYK at all, and I wouldn't mind if it did.  Perhaps you should have credit for it, too?  I do not know the general protocol, but please feel free to add your credit to the nom or ask me to, :-)  Mae din \talk 18:15, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, and thank you for being considerate and explaining your changes. :-)  Mae din \talk 18:17, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Welcome
No worries boss. I'm enjoying it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Urg writer (talk • contribs) 22:30, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Coats of arms VS Seal
Hi Julie! I've done the flag and the Coats of Arms of the municipality of Herrera del Duque. The problem is that in the infobox, under the image of the coats of arms appears the text "Seal". This is a bug, a seal is something metallic that was used to mark the letters. I think that this infobox is made by someone from U.S. where they have another meaning for the word seal. They uses seals like a symbol, but a seal don't follow a heraldic rules. In Europe, we use coats of arms (blason in French, wappen in German, escudo in Spanish, escut in Catalan, brasao in Portugues...), we don't use seals, or the utility of the seals is very different here that in the U.S. See the article of United States, you will see the "seal" of U.S., but in Spain or United Kingdom we have coats of arms. See you! --Xavigivax (talk) 09:46, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I will remember this change. This week is very warm, but the last one, when we stay a week at Mura was cold and raining and we couldn't enjoy the swimming pool or the stream. See you! besos. --Xavigivax (talk) 12:14, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Ee baa gum
--Harkey (talk) 18:48, 19 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much, Harkey! That was a really lovely surprise.  Mae din \talk 19:03, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Yours:
I hope you like it!


 * I love it, thank you!   Mae din \talk 13:51, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

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Navratilova?
I believe these links makes it pretty clear that below her on 1978 and 1979 it says USA, which it comes from Wimbledon themsleves, and don't you think Wimbledon knows their own records? http://aeltc.wimbledon.org/en_GB/about/history/rolls/ladiesroll.html and http://aeltc2009.wimbledon.org/en_GB/about/history/rolls/ladiesroll.html TW-RF (talk) 23:10, 26 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I am not sure why are you telling me this. I never suggested that I had an opinion on the matter.  I was only pointing out that the country an athlete may represent in a sport is not necessarily the same as the athlete's citizenship.  This is no different in, say, the Olympics, or football (the real one).  <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 07:11, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Close?
Would you by any chance have the cajones to make the call on this? There's currently discussion going on about it too.  wadester 16  14:35, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll be happy to try, but I won't be able to until after work. That's in . . . about 3 hours.  <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 15:02, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Great; thanks. You're probably the best one to do it since you're one of the most respected contributors there.  wadester 16  15:21, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Aaaack. How did that happen?!  But thank you, :-)  <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 17:07, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Choose the adjective as you will: least biased, most trustworthy, least dramatic; take your pick.  wadester 16  18:40, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to hear...
...that your trip was cut short by an injured ankle. I just wanted to stop by and wish you well. Is everything else okay with you? Regards  So Why  21:23, 13 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Awww, thank you, SoWhy, :-) I am very disappointed by the injury, I was having a fantastic time and turned brown in the sun!  At least I got to hike for a whole week.  I hurt my tendon when I was going up a very steep ascent, which would have been fine, except someone put enormous steps in, made for a giantess and not for little 1.6m me!  I've been ordered to rest it, and then I'll have to go back to work, but hopefully in September I'll be able to do a week or two more of the path.  Everything else is okay!


 * I meant to congratulate you some time ago on the DYKs you are busy amassing. Five already!  Well done, :-)  Good luck with your exam, as well, what happens after you pass it?  Presumably you will be finished with university and begin practising?  <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 08:30, 14 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I can understand that you were but I am happy to hear that you got at least something out of it. I wish you all the best in completing it soon :-)


 * Thanks. I have decided to use my CSD time a bit more better. Everyone of them has been tagged for speedy deletion before I brought it to DYK, which allows me to shout at people who are bad taggers. Just kidding. I rarely shout and usually only at little children who are trying to annoy me. ;-)
 * Ah yes, my exam. I have no real hope of passing it actually, but I'm learning for it just the same. We got a system here that allows someone to try the exam before the normal time (which would be 9 semesters) for free, i.e. if you do not pass, it's just as if you had not tried it at all. So I decided to use that test as a real-environment test for the exam I planned to take in September 2010 (after 10 semesters) regularly. Unfortunately, once I have written those 6 tests (each 5 hours where you are expected to write 15-20 pages), I will have to learn for the oral exam that takes place in January, so it's pretty much learning all the time until next year. And even if I were to pass this try with a well enough score (else I'd retry anyway), that would just place me in the next step of education, the so-called "Referendariat", which is another 18 months before the second Staatsexamen. You can only practice if you passed that one, so the real job life is nowhere near for me. ;-)
 * Anyway, I am talking too much. I wish you a good time and since you got time on your hands if you cannot hike, I expect you to benefit us all with some great contributions. :-D Regards  So Why  21:54, 16 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Good grief, that sounds like a lot of effort for only a distant long term benefit! Still, an excellent practice for you to take; by the time you've finished it you will be very ready for the exam in 2010!  Best of luck, I'm sure you'll be able to do well, even though you are taking it early.


 * I'll try to pack lots of contributions in to my time off work; I need to get them in now, because as of October I will be a part-time student and will have far less time for Wikipedia. I'm excited, of course, but I will miss the free time!  I'm sure you understand, how it is to have a full-time job and try to make time for study, too.  Maybe it means your protégé will never be an admin, but hey, you have other successes in that area!!


 * Take care, SoWhy, :-) <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 18:44, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the wishes, I'll see what I can manage. Unfortunately, it means my g/f nagging me that I don't have enough time for her and that I'm always in a bad mood... :-/
 * I'm sure you'll do fine. Hey, I work and study and still I find time for wiki once in a while, checking it randomly or in the evening (like now) when I am too tired to do anything productive anyway ;-)
 * And hey, adminship can still be yours, it's nothing that requires you to dedicate huge amounts of time, every little bit helps. I'd nom you tomorrow if you let me
 * Take care and tell me if I can help you with anything. :-) Regards  So Why  20:18, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, that nom offer isn't so unwelcome, actually . . . Hmmmm. Should I, shouldn't I?  Am I tough enough for the gauntlet, lol!  Do you seriously think I could make it?  <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 08:47, 20 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, of course I do. You have content work, know your wiki policies quite well, are respected (see Wadester16's comments above), work in a niche and there are no skeletons in your closet I know of. Your edit count is a bit on the low side but since all of them are manual, that's not too bad. But since I might be a bit biased, I invited Wadester16 to give his opinion. Regards  So Why  11:08, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Let me have a peek at your contribs; as for personal interaction, I couldn't think of a better admin.  wadester 16  12:53, 20 August 2009 (UTC)


 * When I've suitably controlled my breathing, I'd like to accept SoWhy's offer to nominate and Wade's offer to co-nom. I'm going to wake up tomorrow morning and think this has all been a dream, ;-)  <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 16:22, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

<div class="boilerplate metadata plainlinks" id="rfa" style="margin: 0 5%; padding: 0 7px 7px 7px; background: #FFFAEF; border: 1px solid #999999; text-align: left; font-size:95%;"> SoWhy would like to nominate you to become an administrator. Please visit Requests for adminship to see what this process entails, and then [ contact SoWhy] to accept or decline the nomination. A page for your nomination at Requests for adminship/Maedin . If you accept the nomination, you must state and sign your acceptance. You may also choose to make a statement and/or answer the optional questions to supplement the information your nominator has given. Once you are satisfied with the page, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so. Here you go then. I informed Wadester I would create the page, answer the questions and transclude whenever you feel ready. I wish you good luck and a calm head. ;-) Regards  So Why  19:40, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I have real confidence in this one. Good luck!  wadester 16  19:43, 20 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I've got a touch of the vapours after all of this excitement, ;-) If I'm going to have a calm head as you suggest I will have to make a start in the morning!  Your nom statements are unbelievable; really.  Thank you so much!  <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 19:56, 20 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Nah, the calm head is for the time of the RFA. You can still answer the questions now ;-) Regards  So Why  20:12, 20 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Been waiting for this one for a while! I wish you the best of luck! <b style="color:navy;">NW</b> ( Talk ) 00:36, 21 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much! Good luck with yours, as well, it's looking good.  :-)  <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 11:17, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

LOL thank you, I really enjoyed having fun with that one! Now it just needs to really happen, ya know, the fame and the money and the men! ;-) <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 18:19, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your help, I've never done this before :S <font color="Black">Ryan <font color="CornflowerBlue">4314    (talk) 15:03, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem! I've just made a few comments, as well, :-)  Hope it's helpful!  <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 15:05, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the comments, I have duly taken your advice. <font color="Black">Ryan <font color="CornflowerBlue">4314    (talk) 15:28, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You're very welcome. <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 09:46, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Preemptive congrats
Sure, there's 20 hours left in your RfA, but with unanimous support, it looks like you're headed for a pass. So, preemptive congrats on your adminship. :) Best,  Dylan 620  (contribs, logs)help us! 14:12, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Awww, thanks Dylan! I'm really pleased and overwhelmed with the response I've received on my RfA.  I really appreciate your participation and support, .  <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 14:45, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

You are now an administrator
Congratulations, I have just closed your RfA as successful and made you an administrator. Take a look at the administrators' how-to guide and the administrators' reading list if you haven't read those already. Also, the practice exercises at the new admin school may be useful. If you have any questions, get in touch on my talk page. <strong style="font-variant:small-caps">WJBscribe (talk) 11:02, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * (e/c) Thank you, Will!  I will certainly have a look at those guides.  I have this scary new block button!  Yikes!    <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 11:05, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! Not that I ever doubted this outcome but an unanimous support by so many people makes this something very special indeed. Regards  So  Why  11:03, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * (e/c) Awww, thank you, SoWhy!  You've been instrumental in helping me get here, so big hugs  <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 11:07, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You are most welcome. I do hope I can be helpful with your new tools as well. For example, I'd suggest you start using some more scripts, Wikipedia, especially admin-y stuff, becomes much easier to use then. On that, I suggest you check some admins' monobook files, like mine (which has comments to explain what each script does) and adapt some of them in your own monobook (some things like EasyBlock, closeAFD, CSDHelper or revision deleter for example make it easier to do common actions). Regards  So  Why  17:31, 28 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Well done! The Rambling Man (talk) 11:06, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Now I really should get around to one of those tennis lists, right? ;-)  <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 11:08, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Hooray! -- Dylan 620  (contribs, logs)help us! 11:11, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well done :). BTW, I never got the chance to respond to your reply to my !vote. But, yeah, what you said seems fine, although 1 hour doesn't seem like enough. In general you should almost always warn them (so they know what they've done wrong, and have a chance to fix it, if you don't warn they will likely just wonder where their edit went, and re-add it), I normally only don't bother if it's been >1 day. Anyway, good luck with the tools - Kingpin13 (talk) 12:33, 28 August 2009 (UTC)


 * * huggles* You go girl! ;) An unopposed RfA of a candidate who has only 3,400 edits? I think this is a real neat milestone for the community; maybe people are beginning to look past edit count, and instead look for quality? <font style="color:#4682b4">Jamie <font style="color:#50C878">S93  16:02, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * What she said. Well done. - Dank (push to talk) 18:42, 28 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much Dan, Jamie, Amalthea, Kingpin, Dylan. I appreciate the good wishes!  I hope no one minds, but I wasn't planning on giving RfA thankspam.  Kingpin, thank you for the explanation, I'll be more discerning about whether or not to leave talk page warnings.  Jamie, I know, I'm a little surprised myself but it's a move in the right direction!  And Amalthea, it is madness, now I'm just woefully under-prepared for this adminship malarkey .  <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 19:14, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

I had no doubt of a successful outcome, but to do it unanimously really impresses me. Very glad to have nom'ed you; you will be perfect for the position. Now, go play with those buttons! :-)  wadester 16  19:24, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Indeed, feel free to use me to test the block button – just be sure that the duration is one second. Cheers,  Dylan 620  (contribs, logs)help us! 19:45, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Awww, thanks Dylan, but I couldn't do that! I'd feel bad; very generous of you, though, :D  <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 19:53, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Just block this guy, he won't mind  So  Why  19:56, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Lol, heyyyy, great idea!!   <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 19:58, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * This guy is pretty welcome to blocking, too; he gets into a lot of trouble, so it's good to practice your "per this and that consensus" blocking skills (this gives you an idea :P). <font style="color:#4682b4">Jamie <font style="color:#50C878">S93  20:01, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * That block log is hilarious! I can't block him until I think of something funny to say, :-)  <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 20:05, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I was going to suggest the same thing, but Jamie edit-conflicted me. :( -- Dylan 620  (contribs, logs)help us! 20:07, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, and with regards to the "funny thing to say," may i suggest indeffing Test for vandalism and then unblocking him with the summary "braaaaaaaiiiiins?" :P -- Dylan 620  (contribs, logs)help us! 20:13, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Damn, how did i miss out on Requests for adminship/Maedin
Congratulations! couldn't think of a nicer (or more appropriate) choice for mophood. Have you deleted anything major yet? Cheers, Paxse (talk) 15:01, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Heyyyyyyyy Paxse!! Good to see you back, so sorry I didn't answer your email!  And yes, I finally took the plunge and put myself through the gauntlet, though everyone seemed to go easy on me!  Must have been all the voodoo dolls I had at the ready, lol.  If you'd been around, I know you'd have supported, so it's ok that you missed it!  Your trip sounds fantastic!  Sorry for being nosey, but I saw your post at Himalayan Explorer's page, and I'm excited about your new camera, too!  I can't wait to see the delights you will be uploading .  Take care and don't be a stranger!  P.S. You made me use too many of these: !!!!  <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 15:26, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Ha, I missed it too, you need to canvas more. Well done and such. Noodle snacks (talk) 11:43, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, NS! Not many people knowing was deliberate, you see, it cut down the likelihood of opposes cropping up!  <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 11:49, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Amen to that effort.  upstate NYer  23:28, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

User rights log
I found this log summary amusing. :D Thanks also for using the New admin school, too. I'm glad people are still using that. ;) Good luck with your adminship. Acalamari 02:02, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I found the new admin school extremely helpful, I am very pleased it's there! Glad you enjoyed the summaries, but I was rather disappointed myself, as I was hoping for the juicy under-the-table cash, ;-)  <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 15:33, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank YOU for the feedback.
I never noticed that there was a messaging section here.

I've got "the geek mentality". I cannot stand to see a misstatement stand. I get lost in some of the details of the Wiki editing language, so it often takes three edits or so to get where I want. I've had a few of my edits reversed (Kieth Olbermann's "fury" attitude on special comments, for example, or a detail about a former employer's railway markings.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gossg (talk • contribs) 18:08, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Re: Your message
Hi Maedin. I received your message. Congratulations on becoming an admin and thanks so much for the praise. I've been approached before about being an administrator. One of the bureaucrats asked me about it in the past. I considered it for a long time then and basically I decided I like what I do on Wikipedia too much to muddy up my days dealing with adminstration problems. I have a lot of projects going on, mostly through WP:ACTOR and some through WP:FILM that take up a great deal of my time. It seems and feels like I mostly run WP:ACTOR since we're not as organized as WP:FILM and that is often time consuming. I do admit there are times I wish I had the tools to block vandals, pre-teen sockpuppets and deal with those problems, but health-wise and mental health-wise, I do my best work behind the scenes. I do appreciate the thought and the confidence in me, but I must decline. I do hope that I can call on you if I run across persistent problems, though. Thanks so much. Wildhartlivie (talk) 19:38, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Rifqa Bary
FYI, Rifqa Bary has been re-created. See Talk:Rifqa Bary for justification. I am just a messenger, I am neutral in this matter. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  17:08, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the notification. <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 17:09, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Need some help Maedin
Hey I was wondering if you could help perfecting some pages :) please And advice on what to do to get a URL white listed the URL that im trying to white list was blacklisted a couple of years ago because of reported spam but some one (surprisingly that some one {ganeshk} is now a wiki admin) I don't know if he did it intentionally It would be really great if you could help me out Thanks and regards Syler.mi4 (talk) 21:26, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Syler, your entry at MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist looks good; it's only been up for a few hours, so I would just give it a little more time, :-) I'm sure one of the regulars there will see it soon and probably agree to make the change for you.  I won't do it myself because I'm not familiar with that area.


 * As for your articles: I get the impression that you are closely associated with Sulekha. While this isn't a huge problem, it does mean that you have a conflict of interest, see WP:COI for some information on that.  As a result, your article Sulekha reads a little bit "promotional".  I don't have time to do it now, but I will copy edit the article later and try to improve it in that regard.


 * Your article on Satya Prabhakar looks ok. When repeating a person's name in an article, you should use only the family name.  Can you please edit the article so that, outside of the first sentence, only the family name is repeated?  I don't know whether it is Satya or Prabhakar.


 * I have some concerns about the images of the website that you have uploaded. Because the images belong to the website and are copyrighted by the website, you need to have permission from them to use the images here on Wikipedia.  It is not enough to say that you created the website yourself; if you did it as an employee, in any case, you usually do not retain the rights to what you have created.  You need to have OTRS tickets confirming the permissions.   It is important that you read Requesting copyright permission.  On that page you will find advice on what you need to do to make your images acceptable for use.  To sum up, a person of authority with the company Sulekha will need to email the OTRS team with explicit permission for the use of the images; there is an email template available on the page I've linked to.  If the permission doesn't come through, the images will have to be deleted, I'm afraid, :(


 * I hope that's helpful; I'm sorry if it seems to be a big nuisance and a lot of work, but you've really done ok, particularly as a new user doing your first articles. Ask me anytime if you need any further help, :-)  <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 07:13, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a million i will do the necessary changes as far the the ceo's page is concerned :) I'm not exactly associated with the company a friend works there this is just a favor :) I'll try to make him get the copyright images :) Thanks for your help again Much appreciatedSyler.mi4 (talk) 03:32, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Elaine M Goodwin
Hey, thanks for the work you put into this page :). It's looking really great. I have one small problem, which is just that I can't think of a suitable way to reword the page to remove a pov, and I'm not sure if it is a pov, or there is a source (in which case you could say "the source says suchandsuch" rather than "suchandsuch" ;D). I've commented at the DYK page (see Template talk:Did you know). Please take a look when you get the time. Best - Kingpin13 (talk) 07:12, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Kingpin, :-) Thank you very much for the kind words!  Sorry about the dodgy "most notable" comment . . . I suppose it easily could be considered original research or POV, in which case, I'm happy to change it.  Sometimes it's difficult, having written an article, to take a step back and see all the flaws!  Anyway, to explain how I came up with Liquid Gold being so notable, of her public commissions, it's the only one I could find information on, and her website includes a page from an Eden Project brochure, with her work the subject of it.  Unfortunately, the Eden Project have now taken that down on their own website.  I managed to find other bits of info on the web (like the ref you added) and there are some photographs that people have taken of the path and the pyramid.  The Eden Project sees something like 1 million visitors every year, so I figured that was pretty good exposure for a mosaic artist!  I'll try to reword it, so that it only mentions it as an example of her public work, and not the most notable of her work.  Thanks for pointing it out to me!  <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 09:25, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
 * That's fine :). I do personally agree with you that the Liquid Gold is her most notable piece, but I also consider my own thoughts as OR :). It would be nice to see some pictures in there actually (although it is hard getting ones where the licensing is okay, etc.) Anyway, I've given the nom a tick, well done - Kingpin13 (talk) 11:50, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for the tick, :-) And yes, I would love to have some pictures, especially for the DYK!  The Eden Project is actually only a 2 hour drive for me, but I won't be able to make it there this weekend, :-(  Hopefully I'll be able to upload a photograph of the pyramid in a couple of months, when I finally get to the project.  <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 12:02, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Wave
Hi Maedin! Just saying hi; long time no see! How are the (not-so-new-anymore) tools treating you? Hopefully all is well and dandy!  upstate NYer  21:19, 20 September 2009 (UTC) Hello Upstate, thank you for stopping by, ;-) I've been really lax in keeping up with FPC, I know, :-/  As for the admin tools . . . wellllllllll . . . I've only blocked one IP, and found myself absolutely clueless as to how long I should block for, and couldn't find any guidance on it!  Maybe I didn't look hard enough or maybe I was just supposed to use my judgement, but I went for 24 hours.  I don't think that I'll be looking to do many more blocks, so you won't see me around at AIV!  I've been working on the history merge list, I've done about 32 of those so far.  Other than that, I haven't really got stuck into any other admin work, and my course has started so I have a lot less time.  But I have high hopes that I'll get around to pushing the mop more in the near future.  Hope things are well with you; it is a lovely time of year where you are, I hope you are getting time to enjoy it, in the middle of uni! <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 07:10, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't block either for mainly the same reasons. If you need some words of advice, User:Juliancolton is always good for it, and he's on IRC regularly. This is what I do when I'm bored (though not often enough, really). Fall is on its way and I'm looking forward to improving on some shots from last year. I'm all done with school, and waiting to start work next month, so I have some extra time on my hands. :)  upstate NYer  13:27, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, I got confused somewhere, I thought you were still at university, sorry! I'd love to see the northeast US in the fall, I've heard how wonderful it is.  Look forward to seeing some good work from you!  Oh, and I agree with JJ, why no Niagara Falls?   <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 07:10, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Question about Daguerre
Hello, We are a class of writing students in the U.S. We're studying photography, particularly the daguerreotype. We're also discussing the pros and cons of Wikipedia, and are wondering if you'd be willing to tell us why you've participated in writing his biographical page. Thanks.

Welcoming
Thank you for warm wellcoming! Yours DiHri (talk) 08:26, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you dear, probably you can't read my bulgarian first wiki steps. All the best --DiHri (talk) 08:43, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

rv
Thanks for fixing that miss read the diff --Natet/c 17:05, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Nate, no problem! I do that a lot, too.   <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 17:22, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Answers Solutions Knowledge
Hi. I've nominated Answers Solutions Knowledge, an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Did you know. You can see the hook for the article here, where you can improve it if you see fit. -- Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 12:19, 10 October 2009 (UTC) Thanks, -- Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 12:19, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Le Vélo
Hi 'Made in Truro',

Thankee kindly My luvver, :)

1,000 thanks, your reference template is superb, I will start using it immediately. .... and your edits were definite improvements. Thanks. Regards. Autodidactyl (talk) 08:27, 14 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Now that juvenile punning nonsense is 'off my chest', I will always think of it the beautiful French way. À Bientôt Maydeen. :) Autodidactyl (talk) 08:34, 14 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I never said that you had been to Truro. My son (about your age) was made in America but has never been there. .... Today I have learned how to reference and how to . FYI I have just re-reffed Ernest Archdeacon. Now I have to do some work. À Bientôt. Regards. Autodidactyl (talk) 11:02, 14 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Au contraire, First class honours. It must have been like deja vu, {{r|...  Anything earlier would have been stalking, speaking of which ... regards Autodidactyl (talk) 08:42, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

oh hi!
You're welcome! Sorry I did not notice this sooner, it was at the bottom of what I thought were just a bunch of default messages. Would you care to review my recent activity? I am eager for some feedback to how I am doing. Saji Loupgarou (talk) 06:46, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Talkpage
Are you watching my talk page? <font face="Courier"> Nezzadar  [SPEAK]  19:42, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, :-) <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 19:47, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Why? <font face="Courier"> Nezzadar  [SPEAK]  20:08, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Because although I rarely comment these days (due to pressing work and university schedules), I watch FPC like a hawk and have seen your busy-ness there. It was clear that the activity extended to your talk page, so I watchlisted it about a week ago.  I commend you for your energy and enthusiasm for the FP project; god knows it needs life and fresh eyes and ideas.  If I can only make the gentlest of suggestions?  Which is that your energy and enthusiasm is being somewhat negated by your, at times, aggressive and peremptory attitude.  I think you will find that you achieve, influence, and inspire more if you tone it down . . . . just a little bit, .   Anyway, that was unsolicited advice and I don't have your imprimatur, and you are, of course, free to ignore it as you see fit.  Regardless, keep up the good work.  <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 20:28, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I welcome the advice of all admins except for one . Generally you as a group are good mentors. I am a bit aggressive, yes, but that is my nature. I don't respond well to insults, even veiled ones, hence my strong words against Muhammad. BTW how can I check who is watching my talk page? <font face="Courier"> Nezzadar  [SPEAK]  21:28, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The only way would be MZMcBride's watcher script but it does not show the number on pages with less than 30 stalkers to avoid it being misused. Btw, on the matter of advice, I would also advise to avoid side comments like the "except for one" above - it's unnecessary for the message. Regards  So Why  21:34, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Umm, what the heck? I like the side comments. And FYI the admin I distrust and dislike isn't Maedin or you. <font face="Courier"> Nezzadar  [SPEAK]  01:48, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow, SoWhy, 159. More than Diliff, even, :-)  I like to think that I'm sitting on the threshold and have 29 dedicated users intently watching the extreme absence of activity on my talk page,.
 * Nezz, thanks for taking my comments well. Aggressive isn't always bad, so let's hope that a majority of the time you'll get it right!  I could do with some assertiveness . . . mind sharing some of yours?  Might balance us both out then, ;-)  <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 07:57, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * 159 might sound flattering but one could always argue that more watchers equals more users who want to catch me making some kind of mistake or want to stalk me (in a negative way) and that less is better. Not saying that is the case of course but it might be. Optimistic as I am, I sure hope it's not though ;-) Regards  So Why  08:44, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * B...But....But...? Mistakes?  SoWhy?  Surely not!!  I think you're right to be optimistic.  There might be a couple or so, but *shrug*.  They show up everywhere, regardless!  <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 09:08, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, my dear child, even I make mistakes. Sorry to shatter your illusion this way  But seriously, I think and hope you are correct.  Regards  So  Why  09:23, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Ooooh! This page is now my official source of :-)s. Autodidactyl (talk) 15:45, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Awwww, shucks . It's a pleasure to be of service to you!  <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 15:58, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Nezzadar, nobody responds particularly well to insults, but part of being accepted in the community is the ability to play nice and collaborate. You may just have to temper your attitude a little. There's nothing wrong with being opinionated or expressing your arguments, but try to keep them rooted in sound logic, not emotional kneejerk retaliation. Anyway, I guess I've repeated the same mantra a couple of times now and I don't want to sound like a broken record. :-) <font color="#006633">&#208;iliff   <font color="#800000">&#171;&#187; <font  color="#006633">(Talk)  11:13, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Category Invite
Please add the category to your userpage. The category is for ease of access to a list of serial FP contributors, and will not be used for spam. Thanks, <font face="Courier"> Nezzadar  [SPEAK]  04:58, 30 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I'm hardly a serial contributor, but I always want to be, so I suppose I get marks for good intentions, :-) <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 07:47, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Les Frères Robert (Robert brothers)
Hello <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din , Thank you for your time and attention to Les Frères Robert, your warm comments and of course the. It's always nice to receive a positive stroke, so <font color="#4B0082">Thank <font color="#008080"> you . Chienlit (talk) 08:55, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * ... oh and ditto for James Huquier .... definite quality increase! Victuallers (talk) 10:25, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 * You're both very welcome! My pleasure :)  <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 17:27, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the instructions, I have now copied across my watchlist. Regards Chienlit (talk) 23:40, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Invitation to participate in SecurePoll feedback and workshop
As you participated in the recent Audit Subcommittee election, or in one of two requests for comment that relate to the use of SecurePoll for elections on this project, you are invited to participate in the SecurePoll feedback and workshop. Your comments, suggestions and observations are welcome. For the Arbitration Committee, Risker (talk) 08:27, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Persistant vandalism
Hi Maedin, Can you help me please? User 82.23.187.195 has been making hundreds(?) of vandalism attacks, changing heights by 1cm, date of birth by 1 day, etc. I have fixed 10ish over my very slow broadband link but there are simply too many. The attacks are interleaved with occasional valid entries, but never anything of importance. Do you have tools to undo everything? Can you block him? or something? Regards Chienlit (talk) 18:24, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, I don't think I can be of help, here. I certainly wouldn't block the IP at this stage.  He only has one recent-ish warning.  I see that loads of figures have been changed, but as you say, they are interspersed with good edits at the same time.  I suspect that they are mostly all good faith edits.  The IP is probably using an out-of-date or unreliable source and is not knowledgeable enough in the ways of wp to recognise the difference.  I find it unlikely that the IP would make 17 or so subtle vandalising edits on a single day without a warning and still carry on; he either thinks he's doing a good thing or he's a very determined and mature vandal!  Although there's no guarantee that the message will reach the actual editor, I'd leave him a note telling him that his edits look like vandalism and that most of the figures he's changing were already correct.


 * Hopefully my perspective is helpful, even if you don't agree! <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 08:05, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * You appear to assume a great deal of good faith. If it looks like duck... and walks like a duck.. and spreads duck shxx throughout wiki, then it needs to be treated like a duck. Roasted or b'locked or both. Imho this is a 'very mature duck'. I just don't have the time or inclination to correct articles about the dimensions of wrestlers, I have other stuff to write. And I presume a warning from an amateur like me to be somewhat less effective than from a softly spoken admin with a big stick. I'll try later. Regards. Chienlit (talk) 11:33, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * It might not work, but it's the best place to start. It doesn't seem like a very big leap of faith to me, to see the edits as intending to be helpful instead of detrimental.  Evidently others disagree with me, though, :-)  When I said, "I'd leave him a note," I meant that I would.  I just haven't decided whether to do it cold or to wait until he's made more fresh edits.  I've bookmarked his contributions while I ponder.  <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 12:18, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * To be fair, I looked at this guy's contribs and they looked like vandalism to me at first glance. I wouldn't have gone in with guns blazing, but it looked like they've made enough falsifications to enough different articles to be beyond AGF. But then I actually started checking some of them against google searches, and some of the edits might be correct. Eg with Andre Agassi, he seems to be 5'11", but some sites say this is 180cm and some say 181cm. 5'11" is 180.3cm, but whether he was measured in cm originally and found to be 181cm, and it was then rounded down to 5'11", who can say? Similar situations seem to apply to some of the other bits and pieces in the infoboxes that this guy has edited. I haven't got the energy to go through them all, but I would monitor it and take each new edit as they come - at the very least, it'd be handy if there were edit summaries that justified the changes. Chienlit, are you sure you 'fixed' them, or did you just assume that they were incorrect? Just my two cents. :-) <font color="#006633">&#208;iliff   <font color="#800000">&#171;&#187; <font  color="#006633">(Talk)  14:41, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I simply undid the last 9. I've no idea how big Agassi is, with or without toupee. I can't remember exactly why, but it felt very much like clever concealment. I thought I detected smoke so I will read them again tonight and search for a smoking gun.
 * Alternatively, I remember now, It felt like 2 users on the URL, father and son etc. Regards Chienlit (talk) 15:03, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * When it comes to things like this, it's best not to shoot first and ask questions later... as I said, I can't speak for all of the edits, but I'm confident that many of their edits were actually correct, or at least based on the fact that there were multiple conflicting sources and for whatever reason, they felt that the new info was more likely to be correct. <font color="#006633">&#208;iliff   <font color="#800000">&#171;&#187; <font  color="#006633">(Talk)  16:11, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks to both of you. I'm glad somebody is watching them, but if I found that my father was vandalising articles using my url he would eternally condemned to the naughty step. :-) Regards Chienlit (talk) 16:21, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

La Taha VS La Tahá
Hi Julie! I'm here because I found a bug in a name of a town of the south of Spain. The correct name is "La Tahá" with acute, but the article's name actually is La Taha without the acute. I tried to move the article, but it says that the page already exist. The redirection is wrong. Regards! --Xavigivax (talk) 17:05, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I just now have read the message on the top, please answer on my talk page, por favor. --Xavigivax (talk) 17:07, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much my lovely friend! --Xavigivax (talk) 11:25, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
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Willking1979 (talk) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

Spread the cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas2}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Willking1979 (talk) 00:29, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much, Will! Happy Christmas to you, :)  <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 10:44, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy Christmas!
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 Lourie Pieterse  is wishing you Happy Christmas! Whether you celebrate Christmas, Yuletide, Litha, Eid, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hannukkah, Kwanzaa, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!

"The greatest gift they'll get this year is life." ~ Bob Geldof & Midge Ure Spread the hugs & cheer by adding to your friends' talk pages. Thank you, Lourie, Happy Christmas! <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 08:06, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy Holidays
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❄  upstate NYer  ❄ is wishing you Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Xmas, Eid, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hannukah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!

Spread the holiday cheer by adding to your friends' talk pages.

As they say it outside the US, Happy Christmas! We Americans are just soooo Christian, we need to get Merry (you know, that virgin mother?) into the season as much as possible. Best, ❄  upstate NYer  ❄ 14:28, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Specialty
What would you say that is your specialty here in wikipedia? This may be a silly question, but I was just curious. - Woglinde 02 (talk) 16:56, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't know . . . I don't really think I have a speciality. I probably most enjoy writing/creating articles, but they are time-consuming and take a lot of focus, which I rarely can spare.  Other than that I just keep an eye on my watchlist and every now and then pay attention to this.  When I have the time and money and actually learn to take photographs properly, I'd like to focus on taking photographs for WP.  Why do you want to know?    <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 17:10, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, I was updating some section of mine and I just wanted to know just for curiosity. ;-p Woglinde 02 (talk) 02:57, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Hot Water Storage
Hope I didn't come across as sneering. (To an Admin.?!) Apologies if I did. Hard to express in text only sometime. Agree 1,000% about landlords! The story I could tell you about my ex-landlord and leaking taps! Sympathy! Kudos for being kind to your male friend, we are delicate creatures, with fragile egos ;-)). I was pretty sure you meant doing the dishes, (I speak Australian but manage to understand English, New Zealandish I have a little trouble with) but it seemed you were still running out of hot water too soon.

Water heating may help, info. wise. Try monitoring the valve leak and see if it gets worse. My last (obvious) suggestion would be for a plumber ($!) to check the incoming pressure is within specification, thought that won't make the water last any longer!. 220.101.28.25 (talk) 15:50, 23 January 2010 (UTC)


 * No, you didn't come across as sneering at all, and even if you did (to an admin?!), I am probably the least scary admin you'll ever encounter, :-) And maybe the guy who responded before you wasn't sneering, either, you're right that it's hard to get some things across in text.  Perhaps I shouldn't have responded sarcastically; I just felt like a prat for being 25 and not already familiar with something "obvious" like water heating.
 * Thank you for the help; I very briefly considered the plumber option but dismissed it as excessive for what may be nothing and/or normal. Besides, that would mean spending money!  I think I'll just get the valve half way and hope that does the trick.
 * When I work up the courage to humiliate myself again, I'll be asking why one of my doors used to close fully and now won't. In the interests of my pride, I clearly need a boyfriend.  <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 16:31, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Oh that's good. You didnt come across sarcastic either, well, maybe a little 'peeved' at all the 'helpful' males. ;-)) You are obviously not a prat!. I'd be careful about mentioning need for male companionship 'on-line' though. There are some very 'interesting' characters here about! But if you happen to find a suitable male plumber, all the better! As for water heating, my direct experience is all with 'instant' heat types, which have their own list of problems, but they don't 'run out'! Your flats water system must have been designed for (or by?) a male bachelor, not for a young lady. Yes I thought that dripping water and chipboard is NOT a good combination. Doesn't it have a 'drip tray' of some sort ? --220.101.28.25 (talk) 06:41, 24 January 2010 (UTC)


 * The drip isn't nearly enough to require a drip tray. It isn't really a drip, actually, just some puddling around the valve/spindle/gland follower (new vocabulary!) which sometimes is enough for a single drip.  I think my lease will be up before it even thinks about damaging the chipboard, :-).  It isn't unethical to let the next tenant worry about it if the landlord never got back to me on the subject, right?
 * My experience with the instant heat types is that the water pressure is terrible. I would rather take a lukewarm shower with good water pressure than a hot one without.  The reason is I have something like a lot of hair, and thick hair + low water pressure = an eternity trying to rinse out shampoo.  In that regard, I'm not complaining about my hot water tank, at least the water pressure is great, :-)  Pretty sure landlord isn't a bachelor, think it was all just done on the cheap, as these things often are.  It corresponds with the ineffective and pointless night storage heating (and that's saying it nicely!).
 * Thank you for the sage advice, though I'm terminally boring and no self-respecting "interesting" type would spend more than 30 minutes on me, :-) <font color="#4B0082">Mae <font color="#008080">din \talk 10:58, 24 January 2010 (UTC)