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 * I suggest you let the speedy deletion take place so the draft article can be moved into place. What you just did may have caused a delay in the process. Walter Görlitz (talk) 21:34, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

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A Dying Machine genres
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Edits that do nothing but add Visual Editing junk
Hi. I don't mean to discourage you from editing something, and I don't even know if you know you're doing it, but in the past hour you've made at least five of these edits that add nothing but unnecessary categories and spaces to a page. Here and here as well, if it still wasn't clear what I'm referring to. If you could turn Visual Edit off/avoid using it, or not make press edit when you're not actually changing content, that would also be beneficial because it's using that that's causing this unnecessary junk to show up. Thanks.  Ss  112   22:42, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

This editor also removed red ink from a released single. I understand that putting red ink on words without explanation is frowned upon, but I specifically stated that there should be enough info for the song and thus, it should have a page JayBirdtyper (talk) 16:34, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

October 2018
Please do not add or change content, as you did at The Interrupters (band), without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you.  Ss  112   23:12, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Can you please stop making these pointless edits?
What is this? Why are you pressing save on a page when you've changed literally no content but added Visual Edit junk? Please stop. You've done this for weeks now.  Ss  112   23:07, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Except you haven't been updating peaks in these edits. You've just been adding unnecessary spaces and useless categories. If you are going to respond, please respond here, on your talk page. Do not open a new discussion in reply about the same topic on my talk page.  Ss  112   23:28, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 * That's odd considering I am inputting the peak positions. Do you think this problem is a result of making visual edits rather than source edits?
 * Yes, I do think that is it. Hence why I suggested editing the source and not using Visual Edit if you could avoid it.  Ss  112   23:49, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Please update accessdates
When making edits where you're using another previously defined reference, like here on The Fever 333, please update the accessdate of that reference. Also, in sections like that, check to see if there isn't already a reference for that chart's archive already. If there is, add a ref name to it and use that. We don't need a separate reference for what is essentially the same thing.  Ss  112   11:30, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Adding unsourced peaks
You added peaks to a bunch of a different articles earlier without providing a reference. Billboard's website archives have not updated. They have only published a story on the new peaks in the top 10 of the albums chart. The only article on which you correctly cited the required additional source to prove said peak was here. Please do not add chart positions from an article if you aren't willing to cite the source in future. Thanks.  Ss  112   04:43, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

October 2018 (2)
Please do not make edits concerning the updates of review statistics, box office numbers, sports statistics, or some other frequently updated data with a fixed web address,, as you did at Sylar (band), without updating the access-date parameter in the citation template, as you did at Sylar (band). The access-date parameter is the full date when the content pointed to by the URL was last verified to be working and supporting the text being cited in the article. This means that the parameter needs to be updated whenever the content is updated. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to update the access-date parameter in the article. Thank you.  Ss  112   19:15, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

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Changing dates for others
On discographies is not necessary. You seem like you're being deliberately annoying or trying to get the "current" edit by doing things like this. When I asked you to update the accessdate on several rock acts' articles, the references were being cited on the same line with the reference usually directly above. With many of these rock acts, a user has to go out of their way to find where the source is. Sometimes it's not even at the top of the column. It's required that it shows the current URL, not that one hunts down where the source is on the page and updates the date every week. Don't go doing this for others to prove a point—you are just being annoying.  Ss  112  
 * If you think I am only making these edits to get the "current" edit you are mistaken. Utilizing time zones to your advantage and accessing the database so shortly after it is updated are signs to me that all that you're looking to do is get the "current" edit. I don't see this as a competition. I was simply trying out a suggestion that you left on my page so I can better my work in the future. Possibly part of the reason I misunderstood your suggestion was due to the hostility that it implied. I view Wikipedia as neutral grounds where one can enjoy making edits on what they're passionate about. This is where I question your intentions on Wikipedia as you seem to accuse me on something I think you're personally used to.
 * "Utilizing time zones to your advantage"—literally what? How? I know when they update—if you don't, that's your problem. Also, Iwas updating charts on Wikipedia long before I knew of your account and long before you registered here. What a stupid accusation. You made such frivolous changes to "correct" somebody else's content, hence my suggestion that you desire the current edit. My updating peaks is not desiring the "current" edit—it's desiring new information. Besides, as if that would be an achievement to an editor like me who's been around for 12+ years. It might be for newbies or more pedantic editors—I don't know, because I'm not one.  Ss  112   23:50, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

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Metallica discography
You're still not checking every time you add a peak to see if the URL at the top of the column is updated. Another editor had to correct you here. In future, I am going to revert you because you have been asked enough times—I asked then warned you. It's just laziness on your part at this point and you're clearly not going to stop no matter who asks or tells you, so your laziness will be reverted outright. Also, this is not a minor edit, so do not mark it as such. Do better.  Ss  112   13:30, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

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Bad Wolves edit summary
Ok, I believe you, but my Wikipedia sense doesn't. Mind providing a source? I did not find one.  danny music editor  oops 18:59, 24 January 2019 (UTC)


 * I really wish you wouldn't be so lazy and actually tell me where you're getting this. I see you tried to remedy the problem, but that's not good enough. Songs can chart without ever being official singles. Where is this information you're getting that said it was added on January 23?  danny music editor  oops 20:23, 29 January 2019 (UTC)


 * danny music editor, I didn't mean to cause any trouble by adding the song and I'm fine with you reverting my edits since they were not sourced. As for the source goes, I can try to find it again for you, but I honestly don't remember where I got it from. I figured that I'd wait until today when the song charted and provide a source then, from Billboard. I'll make sure I source accordingly for the future, sorry for the mix-up.Jumbaugh22 (talk) 20:47, 29 January 2019 (UTC)


 * If that was so, then why didn't you just tell me that before? In any case, I forgive you, and I'm glad you understand. I also don't mind if you just ping me regularly without stylizing my name like my signature, but you may continue if you choose to.  danny music editor  oops 03:40, 30 January 2019 (UTC)


 * DannyMusicEditor: One last thing, I just noticed your edit summary on how charts do not mean a song is a single. Although this can be the case, like with Greta Van Fleet's "Black Smoke Rising", the Mainstream Rock Chart is based on radio play. So considering that, Bad Wolves' high debut on the chart would likely indicate the song was released to radio. Thank you for your understanding, it's nice to talk to level headed people on this site. Jumbaugh22 (talk) 15:40, 30 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Songs can be released to radio without really being a single, see Black (Pearl Jam song). It's likely that it was, but it needs sourced anyway with something beyond those charts.  danny music editor  oops 23:13, 30 January 2019 (UTC)


 * DannyMusicEditor: Bad Wolves released an acoustic version of their track "Remember When" today. They've previously released acoustic versions of their two singles, "Zombie" and "Hear Me Now". Based on this, it wouldn't be unlikely that "Remember When" was also released as a single. What are your thoughts based on this? I also appreciate you citing Pearl Jam; however, I believe that the success "Black" had was because of the band's popularity and how radio operated in the 90's. Thank you! Jumbaugh22 (talk) 22:45, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

February 2019
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Ways to improve Monsters (Shinedown song)
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Categories, please
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Article creation concerns
One one hand, I appreciate the fact that you’re creating some articles that I’d normally create, but haven’t had the time to do lately. On the other hand, when you makes super short articles with hardly any content in them, like When Legends Rise (song) or Monsters (Shinedown song), you’re likely going to come across disputes with people who want to WP:REDIRECT your articles on the grounds of them not having hardly any content. Please, try putting a little more work into them before publishing them. (You can always create partial rough drafts per WP:DRAFT if a lack of time is the issue.) Thanks. Sergecross73  msg me  18:46, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Your chart updates
What is the point of just adding the several new entries there are on the Mainstream Rock chart every week and then leaving the rest of it alone? Are the new entries on a chart the most important part of it to you? I really don't understand why you've done this several times now. It's not like you've scored some exclusive by doing these before another editor (like myself) who ordinarily updates it. I see no point in updating part of a chart but not all of it. If this is intended to deter someone else from updating the peaks on the chart, it's not working.  Ss  112   18:54, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Please make sure the Billboard reference is updated
I believe I have asked you in the past to check the references at the tops of columns on discographies (or in discography sections) to see if it is an updated Billboard source that supports the peak you're adding. You added a new single to A Day to Remember discography here, but the Rock Songs reference was outdated and pointed to an old form of Billboard chart history page (that used numbers to identify charts instead of chart names in the URL). In future, please check when adding peaks. Thanks.  Ss  112   19:06, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I bet you relished that opportunity to update the Mainstream Rock chart peaks as Billboard updated at a different time. Well, it won't be happening in future, so I hope you had a good time.  Ss  112   14:59, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

December 2019
I can’t help but notice that you keep making additions to articles without adding a source. You’ve been editing Wikipedia for a while now, so I feel like you should know that sources are required at this point. If you need help, let me know and I can assist you. But you can’t keep adding content to Wikipedia without sources, or you’re going to get your account blocked. Sergecross73  msg me  03:21, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
 * You have refused to stop, or even acknowledge this, so your account is blocked for 3 days. In the future, make sure you always add a source when adding content to any article. Sergecross73   msg me  13:56, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Am I misreading things, or did you just make multiple Mark Morton related edits that were not supported by any source on the articles? Sergecross73   msg me  20:53, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

November 2020
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You've been adding chart positions without bothering to check whether the pre-existing citation still works/supports the information you're adding for years. Why are you still doing this? I only found your unsourced edit to Aaron Lewis through an edit conflict, but I'll be paying closer attention to the articles you add chart positions to because you are still neglecting to check years later. Enough. Do better.  Ss  112   12:09, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

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