User talk:JuneGloom07/Archive 6

Mavis Wilton
Let me just say that I'm really pleased you've got involved in the Mavis Wilton GAN. The article needs a lot of work IMO, but you seem to have some expertise with soaps. Let's try and do the best we can with this one. Malleus Fatuorum 23:47, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * It's no problem. I know Raintheone and Gungadin worked hard and were waiting in the GAN queue for a while, so I didn't want to see the article fail. I did forget to ask, is it okay if I or Rain make the changes as you review the article or would you prefer to complete the review first? I don't want to get in your way. - JuneGloom    Talk  00:06, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
 * As the article stands it will fail, so please do whatever you can to improve it. Malleus Fatuorum 00:15, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Meaning to ask you....
Right, I remember far back you deleted the image of Lydia.S of Heather.C's article. So the image on Abi Branning, is a free image and can be used anywhere right? Stop me if im reallly wrong! Well anyway, couldnt we do that with the image of Lydia? Mayhem Mario  07:31, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The image I removed from Heather Chasen's article was a non-free screen shot, which cannot be used as a free alternative could be found. Neither image in Abi's article are free, so they can't be used anywhere else. - JuneGloom    Talk  11:53, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh right. Mayhem  Mario  12:02, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Heads up
— HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   12:11, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Good timing, I'm just in the middle of writing you a reply. - JuneGloom    Talk  12:14, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Why is it...
that whenever I find myself looking after an article on a pretty redhead, you're never far behind? ;) HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   22:37, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Ha ha, I must have been stalking you. I keep looking at Karen's article and thinking it could do with an overhaul. If you ever get some spare time in between all of those FAs, do you want to work on her article together? - JuneGloom    Talk  22:49, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure. I'm looking for a project (just babysitting my latest FAC and waiting for a book for my next), and I can always find time for a redhead. I've been thinking about an overhaul for a while. The biggest problem is the lack of sources, or rather the abundance of tabloid drivel but not much of encyclopaedic value. Still, we can see what we can do. Where do you want to start? The first time I saw here was in her first Doctor Who episode in that police uniform. I think my jaw dropped! The article seems to attract random bursts of editing, even when she's not on the telly, and then it goes quiet. Most of my edits so far have been cleaning up the result. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   23:18, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I've been working on this for a while, but I seem to have writer's block and need something else to do. Where to start? Hmm, I guess we could create a userpage, where we can work on the article and start to find some new sources (I have a habit of just dumping them on the page and then organising them like here). You should have gone to the London Film and Comic Con last month, Karen was there signing and talking. - JuneGloom    Talk  00:08, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Shame! But I live in the arsehole of nowhere (but hopefully not for much longer!) and can't afford to get to London. That sounds like a good idea. One of the things I've found when I've taken over half-written articles is that they never seem to get the best out of the sources, so it's probably worth going through the sources we already have as well. That and writing FAs has taught me to distrust any source I didn't put there! I'd be surprised if there was enough for a GA, but you never know. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   13:49, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Oops, I missed this. I'll go start a userspace page now. First thing we need to do is find a reliable source for her date of birth, there's no reference in the article for it at all. - JuneGloom    Talk  21:50, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
 * User:JuneGloom07/Karen Gillan. I've added all the sources already used in the article to the talk page and we can go through them and mark which ones are being used to their full potential, which ones are reliable, etc. - JuneGloom    Talk  22:05, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!
LOL! thanks!--5 albert square (talk) 21:48, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem! - JuneGloom    Talk  21:51, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I guess, this was only a matter of time!--5 albert square (talk) 22:06, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm surprised that didn't happen sooner. - JuneGloom    Talk  22:17, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Libby Kennedy
Hi June!

Firstly, I've only just realised that it was your birthday last month, so a belated Happy Birthday! I hope you had a lovely day.

Secondly, Libby Kennedy is no longer listed as a character on either the channel 5 Neighbours website (http://www.channel5.com/shows/neighbours/characters) or the Australian Neighbours website (http://neighbours.com.au/characters-by-street-number.html). I've searched online to find out more information, but couldn't find any that definitively says that Kym is no longer a member of the cast. I just thought I'd keep you updated, in case you didn't already know and you want to change the list of characters on Wiki! I'd do it myself, but the Neighbours page is yours and RaintheOne's thing, so I don't want to interfere! :)

Cheers! ElGrigg82 (talk) 00:53, 13 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Please tell me Libby's profiles are archived? I'll go with what ever you want on this one JG - Though we still have no source confirming permanent departure. Rain the One  BAM 00:58, 13 August 2011 (UTC)


 * So sorry, I completely missed this! El, thank you for the birthday wishes. I did have a lovely day.
 * As for Libby, it is weird they've removed her profiles from the websites. Though both sites have recently gone through a revamp, so it could be an accident or they could be waiting until she comes back. She is still in the credits (not the end ones though, but then Tom Oliver isn't listed either and he's still part of the cast) and there's been no word about her not returning to the show. I think it's just a waiting game on this one. Rain, Libby's profiles are archived, don't worry. - JuneGloom    Talk  15:28, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Hello!
Just a quick request that I'm making to you and Raintheone, if you come across vandalism on Ray Meagher's page, could you please let me know so I can see if it needs to be deleted from the public archives? I've just had to remove some stuff regarding an incident on a social networking site.--5 albert square (talk) 16:07, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. I thought the article was on my watchlist, but it seems I'm only watching Alf Stewart. - JuneGloom    Talk  16:13, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Just dropping by to say...
That I saw your username at Fluffernutter's RfA and immediately went "hmn, I wonder if that's a The Like reference". Glad to see a fellow fan around! Regards, Ironholds (talk) 21:56, 15 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Hey, I'm also glad to see another fan. June Gloom was the first The Like song I ever heard and thought it would make an interesting username. - JuneGloom    Talk  23:24, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Neighbours, H&A and W&L
Hellorr. A new section, now how about that. What do you think of this ref for W&L reception? Or are they too amutuer? Now, The W&L's cast looks a little messy. What kind of small table would you suggest to put them in? Fields could be "Character, Actor, Seasons and Ref" .. ? Then for Miles Copeland, what more do you think needs to be done? I've got a good idea for a DYK hook too if you'd be up for that. Rain the One  BAM 17:53, 17 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Hey. Hmm, upstart.net.au appears to be a blog, so I would be wary about it. I think most television cast lists are in bulleted list format, but I guess a sortable table would be best. I'll take a look at Miles and get back to you. - JuneGloom    Talk  19:09, 17 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Can you make a sortable table? I'll leave the blog out then. I've got a scenario for you. Say Declan returns played by James and it turns out Erin's Declan was his evil twin named Bob. Would you think it is a good idea to create an article for Bob. If you did what would you do about all the development sections applying to Declan whilst Bob was imposting? Would you remove all of the recast info and place in into Bob's article? Or would you treat Bob as a new character? Rain the One  BAM 19:57, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
 * cough, cough, cough Rain the One  BAM 13:04, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I went to bed early on Weds and Thurs, so I forgot all about this. I'm working on the table now. That situation kinda sounds similar to the Robinson twins in Neighbours. It's tricky, I guess I'd create an article for Bob if he was notable after the deception came to light (otherwise a list entry would be fine). I don't know what to do about the development info though, possibly put it into Bob's article, but amend it to say things like "While Bob was impersonating Declan he set fire to a house" (or whatever he did). - JuneGloom    Talk  18:10, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I was hoping you'd do the opposite. Well it was just speaking hypoethetically, I'm certainly not faced with this situation elsewhere on WP. :p Anyway Yay at the table. What about Miles? I so want more info for his, I was getting into it. :( Rain the One  BAM 21:19, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Tbh, I hope that situation never comes up, because I'd have no clue what to do. I probably should have asked this before, but do you want two separate tables for regulars & recurring or one table for all? - JuneGloom    Talk  22:03, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * In this case Bob is staying for a few episodes, so everyone's uncle and mother wants an article. lol If they were combined there would have to be an extra field. So for now I'd say stand alone ones. Give it a trial run anyway. Rain the One  BAM 22:34, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm a little unsure about the Season field. Should it just be in the recurring table or both and how should it be laid out (eg 1- or 2011- )? - JuneGloom    Talk  23:09, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorryn I didn't notice this reply ... I'd go with 1- ... Btw thanks for correcting my spelling of Halfpenny on Amy's article. Thankfully one spelling I noticed in time was when I put 'Charlie Hardick' instead of 'Hardwick' :)  Rain the One  BAM 23:23, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
 * "DYK that.. Home and Away viewers wrote in to complain about Miles Copeland eating to much food on-screen." - Any ideas on how to make it soud better? Rain the One  BAM 23:26, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Why don't you reply anymore? I tweeted you too. Rain the One  BAM 20:36, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I just replied on Twitter. I haven't been feeling well and I've been spending most of my time working on a potential featured list. I need to prove to myself, I can still do it. I'll add the tables to W&L now. As for Miles, I quite like that hook (it made me laugh). I'll try and think of another just in case. - JuneGloom    Talk  20:46, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, do you want a season column for the regulars too? - JuneGloom    Talk  20:54, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually add the season column when season two begins. It seems a little redundant (However you spell it) to add it atm with their being one season. I might move Miles now then? If so can you do the DYK form as I already have Amy at DYK.. :) Oh and you've still got it! Rain the One  BAM 22:14, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Tables are done. I don't think Miles is quite finished. We need a lead and there are still three sources on the page that either need adding or removing. Did you ever go through the Fairfax archive for refs (I've only just thought about that)? Thanks, I'm pretty sure I lost "it" for a while after my last featured list candidate failed. - JuneGloom    Talk  22:29, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, I didn't know you had a failed one. :o Oh yeah, I got all ready to do the lead the other night - but then I decided too just watch TV... Miles is a chore, I forced myself into writing his section about Kirsty. I still need to look through Jaci's moaning, Fairfax archive and Free library. :/ Rain the One  BAM 23:23, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * It failed because I got disheartened about a couple of things raised and then forgot about the whole thing. It's poor form, which is why I wanted to get back in the saddle as it were. I've started writing about three or four lists, but Atonement is the only one that hasn't given me any trouble yet. Just remember there is no rush and Miles can wait a little longer. We'll go through the archive and the free library and see what we can find. - JuneGloom    Talk  23:33, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm glad you like it. :p Well looking at the storm trailer, looks like there will be some great info coming along for the H&A gang. I wonder if there is enough info about for Bianca to have an article now. Also Kyle, how close to notable would you say he is? I think the injury and Dane created a couple more refs, plus the DS interview combined with the random reception tidbits. Rain the One  BAM 22:18, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I keep thinking about Bianca and April, but I don't recall seeing that many sources around. I've almost finished working on Kyle. Just got to write about Kate and Jade, then work up the energy to write a good lead. - JuneGloom    Talk  22:23, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Oooh, offline? Bianca might do - with Inside soap stuff and TV week things I've seen knocking about. I'll have to start on that soon. April's the weakest link.. I'm quite sure Elijah has more info. lol Rain the One  BAM 22:29, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've got a lot of work offline, lol. I suppose I could start putting it all together in my userspace and then find a friendly admin to move it for me. The thing about Kyle is he spent a lot of time being a recurring character and they don't often get written about. I had a similar problem with Sonya, even when she became a regular, there wasn't that many sources around. It's not until they're given a big storyline or become part of one, do they get noticed. The exception to that rule are characters like Chris, Diana and the upcoming Martin Chambers, have you seen how development info he has already? I have some sources for Bianca somewhere, if you want them. - JuneGloom    Talk  22:39, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I know what you mean. & I think there is more interest in Martin because of the actor. I sure do want the Bianca sources. :) Rain the One  BAM 23:02, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Ha, just as we're talking about development info for characters, an interview with Orpheus Pledger goes up. Noah also has a big development section now. I feel a little sorry for Rhys now HS is no more, we don't have instant reception for him (with the memorable moment). Where do you want me to stick the Bianca sources? - JuneGloom    Talk  23:50, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * You can put them here :) From the looks of the storm Trailer, Bianca looks in the thick of it. So hopefully she gets a bloody interview somewhere.. *_* Oh, and where would we be without DS, more so Danny K! I reckon they'll keep him on afterward... They're just waiting to create a new teen group around Sophie and Callum. Who do you think the next recurring to regular will be? Rain the One  BAM 02:42, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

I'll still have the sources. :P Anyway, to Miles. Could you try and improve the lead section. Jazz it up for me and make it sound more full. Make it sound more factual, I pulled out boring stuff and my wording isn't the best on this one. I just don't like it at present. *cries** ( I'll let you finish watching the proms of course. :p ) Rain the One  BAM 20:49, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Of course, I haven't forgotten. I'll take a look at Miles' lead when I'm no longer enthralled by the Prom. :) - JuneGloom    Talk  20:57, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
 * See, superb! Could you also take a look at the creation section. This is the only worry left. As it's a little on the short side, I'm thinking, would it look better combined with 'Characterisation and career'? I'm pretty sure there aren't anymore sources now too. (Well a amazine ref from the scan gallery that would have been perfect for the Christine Jones vs Miles fued, but there is no page number .. flamin eck..) We could move it into the mainspace now,. right? Rain the One  BAM 22:37, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Ha, thanks. I was also thinking Creation could be merged with Characterisation and career. I'll take a look and see if it could be expanded at all. We'll need an admin to move it, I think HJ Mitchell is around. - JuneGloom    Talk  22:44, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Ooh, did you see this - ? - JuneGloom    Talk  22:46, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
 * That link won't open for me. What useful info does it have? It'll need a history merge only won't it? (I created Colleen, Xavier, Liam, Ruby, Rachel, and Tony in the sandbox, and started a fresh each time without moving the history.) The ID where Miles starts is :) Are you asking him? Rain the One  BAM 23:04, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
 * It just covers his backstory really, so it could come in handy if we ever need to ref that. I think we can leave the creation section where it is for now. I'll ask HJ, if I don't fall asleep first. Where do we want the article moving to? Is it Miles Copeland (Home and Away)? - JuneGloom    Talk  23:15, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Yep, that's the title. :) Please don't fall asleep yet. (Oh I watched the last two Winners and Losers last night.. oMg!) Rain the One  BAM 23:20, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I've asked him. I know what you mean about W&L! I was just starring at the screen after the last ep, like a goldfish. I cannot wait till the series returns. Oh, look at this - . - JuneGloom    Talk  23:30, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Woo. It's been moved, I can upload the pic now. PB asked some questions in a pretty negative tone for the most part. I just cannot wait for the new characters. I hope they create a giant buzz for the show. Are you going to do the DYK or do you want me too? Rain the One  BAM 00:02, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

"DYK that.. some Home and Away viewers wrote in to complain about Miles Copeland eating to much food on-screen." - How can I make it sound better? Or is it okay? Rain the One  BAM 17:13, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I like it, it just needs a small copy edit. "DYK that... some Home and Away viewers complained about Miles Copeland eating too much food on-screen?" - JuneGloom    Talk  19:10, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I just found my abandoned Bianca article and most of the sources are dead Holy Soap or Yahoo!7 ones (the addresses have changed since I saved them). I don't think there's anything there of much use, apart from and . -  JuneGloom    Talk  21:14, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I hate Holy Soap all over again. Thanks, and I've nominated Miles. :) Rain the One  BAM 21:57, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Great! I haven't used the new DYK subpage system yet. I'll have to study it before I send anything there. - JuneGloom    Talk  22:11, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

On Ken Barlow's article, from the peer review it pointed out a link that links back to ken - Can you see if you can find it? I'm getting my hair off with it now. I've checked for the relevent text with the Ctrl+f and it's not there. So I think it is bullshitting me. Rain the One  BAM 19:11, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I think it's found the redirect to the article, not something within the article. I'm not 100% sure though, but if neither of us can find it, perhaps it's not there. - JuneGloom    Talk  19:21, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh right. Thanks. Also Can you do the honors?  Rain the One  BAM 21:30, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Tagged and reported to AIV. - JuneGloom    Talk  21:38, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Groovy... Well how about 2 Neighbours, 1 W&L and 22 H&A cast pics? I'll email you the links now to be on the safe side. Christmas came early. Rain the One  BAM 03:16, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Your signpost has been delivered. But my message is more important. lol Rain the One  BAM 12:24, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, just letting you know I've seen these messages and the email. I'll send you a reply in a little bit. Have been without internet access all day and I'm just catching up with everything. - JuneGloom    Talk  16:15, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Okie dokie. =D Rain the One  BAM 16:25, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I replied, but forget emails now it takes too long.. lol. I'd like your help in uploading them please. I've only ever done one and I can't remember the link Frick gave me. Rain the One  BAM 18:54, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Replied and uploaded the first one. - JuneGloom    Talk  19:18, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Who have you uploaded first?
 * Samara Weaving. - JuneGloom    Talk  19:31, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * How do I get Shani Vinson and Sharni Vinson 2 over to wikipedia like you did Samara? Rain the One  BAM 19:41, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Just add the name of the image on Commons (Sharni_Vinson.jpg) to the infobox on here (there should be an image field like in the soap infoboxes). - JuneGloom    Talk  19:44, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * We also need a system, so we don't upload the same image. I was starting from the top of the links you sent me, but I can do the bottom one instead. What do you want to do? - JuneGloom    Talk  19:48, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I've uploaded both Sharni images and David Jones-Roberts. I got in a tizzy and uploaded the wrong name - If you go from the bottom of the list and stop after you upload Luke-Axle-Josh's image. (I've also upload two lincoln lewis pics I found.) Rain the One  BAM 19:54, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * It's okay, names can be changed later if they're wrong. Bottom of the list it is. - JuneGloom    Talk  19:56, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I've done those then. You'll have to call the final Lisa Gormley pic "Lisa Gormley 4" as I've had 1-3 lol. Right, now, next is to crop them right? Rain the One  BAM 21:14, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Is that last pic really Lisa Gormley? I didn't recognise her. I'm not planning on cropping anything, as I have no idea how. - JuneGloom    Talk  21:18, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * You can put requests in here - Graphic Lab/Photography workshop. I think I'll do a bit of a mass nom for the ones I've uploaded. Yeah it's her, same event Rhiannon, Steve and Lincoln are at. Oh and Nicky Whelan, it was her movie "Hall Pass".

Also, can you make the category for these images like that gallery you have for Neighbours. Rain the One  BAM 21:29, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll make the gallery just looked at the EE one and it looks easy. Though what would you have the page title as? (I'm sorry to keep hasseling you about all of this.) Rain the One  BAM 22:40, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I keep getting distracted by other things. There is a Home and Away category, so you want a Home and Away cast members one. - JuneGloom    Talk  23:06, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * This is where I'm confused. I cannot find a home and away images category. I can create a category for these cast, but I was thinking more of a gallery too, like this one. WikiProject EastEnders/Free-use images. Wikipedia:Home and Away cast free-use images? Can I do that, do I need permission to use Wikipedia in the title. Home and Away free-use image, it would be like an article wouldn't it, not a behind the scenes thing. Rain the One  BAM 23:37, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, I thought you were talking about making a category on Commons. I'm not sure where you'd create/put one on here. You may have to ask someone who's more confident with images than I. - JuneGloom    Talk  23:41, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll forget the category and stick to putting them in articles. I'm always coming up with stupid ideas instead of actual editing. :p Can we use Brax and Casey's actor pics in the 2011 list of characters? Rain the One  BAM 23:48, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I was thinking about that, though we may want to crop out the two women with them. - JuneGloom    Talk  00:02, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll request that they be split tomorrow as I've just requested another three crops. I'd do it myself but I don't have photoimpact on this anymore. I have a hard job getting the character pics perfect with....... MS Paint. lol Rain the One  BAM 00:13, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Shall we nominate Miles for GA? I really like it now and with the final suggestions (if we get a good reviewer) it could meet the mark imo. The only thing I don't like is there is no coverage of his relationship with Jazz. Though I guess it's not notable if there isn't anything around. So I'd say it is complete. Have you seen Ruby's article? I've added some images, do you think I'd be going overboard if I added one of Esther after she is cropped? Rain the One  BAM 12:00, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm guess we could give it a go, I like his article too. :) I would hold off on adding another image to Ruby's article. You don't want it to become too cluttered with images and quote boxes. Though you could remove the Liam pic and then add the Esther one, as you have the quote box in that section. - JuneGloom    Talk  12:13, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll do that then. :) ( One of the editors on that image request page said the didn't have the energy to crop Rebecca/Luke atm... Do they know I plan on requesting a whole lot more.... oh dear, oh dear. ) Rain the One  BAM 12:32, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Ha ha, I'm sure he'll get round to it. I'm currently updating various H&A articles/list entries. Got a bit behind. - JuneGloom    Talk  12:53, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd help but I'm waiting until September the 5th.. when C5 get back to business. I've had a nosy at your edits and spoiled the surprise of Sid having another daughter! lol Rain the One  BAM 13:51, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that, I should have put a spoiler warning in my edit summaries. :P - JuneGloom    Talk  13:53, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Do you think is related to that editor that kept changing images such as Libby Kennedy..? Rain the One  BAM 17:44, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure, who was the other editor? - JuneGloom    Talk  17:47, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * ChrisSmith1995 and Dude95. Uploading shit images and moving storylines before development sections and edits american shows just like these pair did. Rain the One  BAM 17:53, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure, they often focused on Corrie and South Park articles/images. If you can find the evidence, re-open the SPI case. - JuneGloom    Talk  18:34, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I reverted the help desk. :/ That means which ever soap character I meant to revert, I actually did not. So glad your watching me sometimes. lol Rain the One  BAM 22:37, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Ha, misclicks happen to all of us at some point. Can you remember which soap character you were trying to revert? - JuneGloom    Talk  22:47, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Ben Mitchell, sorted. :) May need to watch User talk:Crystalnite btw, some right dodgy images and titles coming from them. Rain the One  BAM 23:14, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Hmm... is Nikhil really Nicholas!!! I couldn't remove it because I am not 100% sure.. Nikhil Sharma Rain the One  BAM 00:04, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I really don't think he is. Remove it as it's unsourced. - JuneGloom    Talk  12:25, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Where can we put File:Lincoln Younes.jpg and File:Steve Peacocke.jpg in the 2011 list? Rain the One  BAM 13:49, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I'm not sure. You might have to make the pictures pretty small to fit in with the development info. Maybe put them on the left of the page, so they don't clash with the infobox. I was planning on creating a Lincoln Younes article, but Emmerdale has now taken over my (Wiki) life. I also have a nearly complete Brax article somewhere. - JuneGloom    Talk  14:05, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Could you put the Brax article in your sandbox? I'm really interested in seeing it. Who have you taken on for Emmerdale? Rain the One  BAM 15:27, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * If I can find it, I will (yesterday I lost Kyle's storylines and had to get them off the external hard drive). I've started with Holly Barton. I'm going to do her mother and brother next. I figure the most recent cast members will be easy to find sources for. I think characters like Eric and Alan will need a collaboration to get them up to scratch. - JuneGloom    Talk  15:35, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd prefer Eric because he is more interesting than Alan lol I do have an Emmerdale book so I'll look through it. Btw, 33 Saxon avenue is "Angelo's house" remember. :p Rain the One  BAM 16:25, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ooh, so it is! Thanks for that. - JuneGloom    Talk  16:28, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Testing. Who would you say the lady in the necklace is?  Rain the One  BAM 16:30, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks like Charlotte Bellamy to me. - JuneGloom    Talk  16:39, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * That is what I wanted to hear. :) Rain the One  BAM 16:49, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Random question looking at your edit to Mark. Did you not archive his Official AU and Holy Soap profiles for use as ex links? Rain the One  BAM 00:54, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Mark didn't have an AU profile, but I did archive his HS one. I thought it would be better if he has a working ex link, so I updated it. Have you seen what happened to WebCite? Check the site out. - JuneGloom    Talk  01:35, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah I noticed earlier when I wanted to archive a link. I hope they don't take forever with it because Radio Times remove their episode summaries and cast lists and I often use them to back Hollyoaks characters first app dates instead of episode cites. A trillion characters arrived this week! I was meant to be doing Laurel but I'm having too much putting free image gallerys together for each of the soaps. P.S. I'm not sure you've been up this late before, unlike me on it til 5.. lol Rain the One  BAM 01:45, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm usually up late, but not on Wiki. I just decided to log in on my phone to reply to you. - JuneGloom    Talk  12:32, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Look at Natalie Blair and David Hoflin's articles, at the edits I undid... and the editors userpage I had to edit myself! LOL Rain the One  BAM 03:31, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ha ha! - JuneGloom    Talk  13:45, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yesterday, I was discussing the possibility of using pics with an IS awards photographer... think I've scared him off. :( So close too. Rain the One  BAM 13:52, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh oh. I think they may let us have some pics! Btw - seen this, love the Toadie stuff. :D -  Rain the One  BAM 16:56, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ha, he spelt Toadie's name wrong, but I'm glad he liked the show. His Emmerdale verdict was hilarious. - JuneGloom    Talk  17:16, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * PROD or AFD? - JuneGloom    Talk  18:24, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * We could redirect it or we could see if we can improve it. Bits and bobs on where he studied n that. Rain the One  BAM 19:25, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Redirect to where? I think deletion is the better option. Where he studied acting isn't going to prove notability and I'm not really interested in cleaning up someone else's mess tonight. I'm going to go and create my own. - JuneGloom    Talk  20:02, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Your going to create your own mess? Btw I'm agaisnt deletion because it'll only attract unwanted attention to ther other Neighbours actors. I should have said, Gemma Pranita has been dressed up with where she has studied etc.. regular role plus to bit parts just like Ben.. Rain the One  BAM 20:23, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I always do. I just need to start getting some of my sandbox articles completed. That's not a great reason to hold off on taking an article to AFD, nor is bringing up other articles a good argument (WP:WAX). Like I said, I'm not interested in cleaning it up, so if you think you can do something with it, go ahead. - JuneGloom    Talk  20:39, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

JG... I'm in a state of shock. One of my favourites Rae Wilson is no more!!!! :( I may even vandalise the Silas Blissett article, that old stinkin rotter!!!! :) I did find another source, but I cannot be bothered to try and save the article because you talked sense into me. Just PROD it as he isn't notable and doesn't have as many sources like the others and the are only four useful sources... (Sorry for bringing Gemma up as I want to save everything.) Btw please will you #PrayForRae :(  Rain the One  BAM 23:25, 9 September 2011 (UTC) Take a look at it. Do you think it should win Best Exit at the BSA's?  Rain the One  BAM 20:51, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
 * That was creepy, but I think it has a chance at Best Exit. - JuneGloom    Talk  00:16, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Question. Rae appears dead in the boot of Brendan's car. You get to see her face, only her arms and the back of her head. She wasn't credited though. Would you change the characters last appearance date? Rain the One  BAM 18:48, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Probably not. I think no credit = no changed date. - JuneGloom    Talk  19:26, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thankyou. :) Btw, The inside soap fella has donated some pics. Yay. Rain the One  BAM 19:43, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I've changed my mind because I just looked into your sandox (which is coming along nicely) - It makes the casting section look more full keeping it there. Rain the One  BAM 17:16, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, exactly the same as Hollyoaks are doing with band Daytona Lights. We included the actors name, but because we do not know the names of their characters - we just used a TBA field for all of them. Red Cotton are lucky enough to have a debut date of January though. We havent added them to the 2011 character list because we do not know their names. Personally, I'd do the same with Red Cotton. Rain the One  BAM 16:57, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I need to find out if the members of the band will be playing themselves or characters. Though if they are given character names, I don't think they are going to get individual storylines, so I think a list entry under Red Cotton would do. Which brings up my next dilemma, do I move the 2012 cast list to the mainspace now or wait for the next casting announcement for 2012? - JuneGloom    Talk  17:31, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh - I'd certainly wait before uploading the 2012 list - just until it is a bit closer to new year or there is a big announcement like you say. The main reason I didn't group Daytona Lights together, is because they have all been through drama school and seem to be playing actual roles. Rain the One  BAM 19:05, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * That's what I thought. The Neighbours band storyline seems to be a little different. Well, there's definitely another casting announcement for next year on it's way - . Rumour has it a former H&A actor is joining the show for four weeks. Btw, Dodgechris returned a few days ago and was blocked today. - JuneGloom    Talk  19:18, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Who do you think it will be? :o Seriously, sockpuppets are ruin the fun of what is left of editing here. Not to mention newbies that don't reply on their talk pages. I did mean to ask - you know in this weeks IS Soapbox, would you use the bit on Jade & Kyle. About the whole world could see it but them and wondering how long "friends with benefits" will last. Rain the One  BAM 21:43, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It's someone known to both Australian and UK audiences, so my first thought was Kate Ritchie. Who do you think it might be? I've just seen Dc came back yet again. A teeny tiny part of me feels sorry for him as he actually wants to improve the Corrie articles. I noticed those Jade and Kyle comments too and was thinking whether to use them or not. I guess they would be okay. - JuneGloom    Talk  22:55, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Do you want me to add it to Jade? I wrote into Sarah about Silas & Rae. Well that storyline has taken up the main letters box. IMO my letter was so much better than those included. I'm convinced she writes them herself. I'm going to write one each week until I get my ten pounds. lol Josh and Melissa worry me! I always look hoping something is there I've missed... but no. There was a TV Week about Josh's casting - but there is no page number. But there is a title, date etc. Plz, plz, plz can we add it? You know you want too. I doubt anyone will ask for the page number. Rain the One  BAM 23:05, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, go ahead and add it to Jade's article and I'll copy it over to my Kyle draft. ;) Ha ha, I'll have to keep an eye out for your letters. Those articles worry me too. I think there's some more info for Melissa in the annuals, but I just don't want to search for it at the moment. Go on, add the TV Week info to Josh's article. - JuneGloom    Talk  23:21, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ooh, Neighbours just tweeted the ex H&A actor is a guy and he will fit in with the 20-something crowd. Hmm, maybe it's Lincoln Lewis? - JuneGloom    Talk  23:37, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I think I twisted your arm there. I'll do it now. :) It would be great if it was Rhys Wakefield joining - though if he shared a scene with Aidan it would be a little weird. He and Lincoln are the only ones over twenty in recent years worth teasing fans about. Rain the One  BAM 23:54, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

This is weird. How do you think I should set Daytona Lights out in the 2011 HO list? According to this they are playing themselves - but they are going to debut on different dates - so should I make seperate entries in the others table? Rain the One  BAM 17:28, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm, that's a little tricky! I guess if they are being introduced gradually, then separate entries would be okay. Let me think on it some more, I want to play around with tables. - JuneGloom    Talk  23:40, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks for this. :)
 * I've never had this problem before. I want to add the info about Jade & Kyle from the Inside Soap "Oh please get on with it" feature. I used the info from Sarah Ellis already. So do I treat the cite as an entirely new ref to avoid title/pageNO issues? Rain the One  BAM 00:01, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, I was going to use that info in the development sections. Anyway, I have had that problem before and I think I treated it as a new ref. - JuneGloom    Talk  00:05, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I was just about to include it, so I've submitted it anyway, but you can rewrite it when you do the update. Plus you do not have to write the ref out now. :p Rain the One  BAM 00:16, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Hey. Please could you update Gina's storylines to Aus pace? Rain the One  BAM 16:18, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. I'll add her to the long list of H&A characters to update. - JuneGloom    Talk  16:20, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

You were right! :p The list only has three sources? Can we do that? Rain the One  BAM 16:44, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ha, I think there were only a couple of actors it could have been. I think we can go ahead, AP told me to start the 2011 list straight away when I found some casting info for Garland Cole - . I was just looking around and the 2010 EE list was started with only one source and one character - - so we're in a better position than them. I can wait until later this evening in case other people report on Lincoln's casting though. Gives me a chance to finish Kyle's article. -  JuneGloom    Talk  16:57, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

I would have liked Lucas Holden because he is hot. In that case I guess it doesn't matter. Atleast any new castings will be 2012 characters, hopefully some members of "the family" are announced soon. & unlike the british soaps they are still announcing cast for this year as they don't film as far ahead. Kyle done now then? Rain the One  BAM 23:00, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I doubt the new family will be announced this year, but it's something to look forward to. I just need to write Kyle's lead and he can go to the mainspace tomorrow along with the 2012 list. I was thinking of recreating/writing an article for Geoff Campbell, would he be notable? - JuneGloom    Talk  00:02, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * He is notable. Should be a good section on Melody & Nicole. Should be stuff for his OTT religous characterisation. He was involved in a storyline with Reverend Hall who turned out to be the hospital attacker, that was a big SL. I think I'll create Aiden's article if you are going to do Geoff then. Rain the One  BAM 01:40, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I've started working on Aden - and I completely forgot about Laurel. I've turned into half a job. :) Rain the One  BAM 21:30, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Welcome to my world. I've got loads of half finished jobs. Kyle's almost done though. A dodgy internet connection and Downton Abbey stopped me from completing the article earlier. - JuneGloom    Talk  21:38, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Have you asked Virgin why it keeps happening? It is really bad that it keeps going like that - mine always used to do it and they dropped the price of the bill for a few months, after we rang up. Btw, are you going for DYK with Kyle? Rain the One  BAM 21:45, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I think my father emailed them, but I might tweet them again. Probably not, I don't think I've expanded his list entry five times over. - JuneGloom    Talk  21:51, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, I just compared them lol. Do you want the Kyle pic I got a while ago or have you another? Rain the One  BAM 22:02, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * You're one is fine. - JuneGloom    Talk  22:24, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

I read it back about four times and I don't think I can pick fault with it. I'd say it is good. :) Rain the One  BAM 14:51, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Trivial matter - I did notice Kyle's bio ref says "Eleven" while N.com.au is still by Network Ten. Rain the One  BAM 15:05, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Which ref number is that? - JuneGloom    Talk  15:22, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Number 10 overall, placed in the characterisation section. Rain the One  BAM 15:35, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Changed. Now I need to go find an admin for a history merge. - JuneGloom    Talk  15:39, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Did you ask someone to do it? Chop, chop. :D Rain the One  BAM 20:31, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I was waiting until I saw an admin I knew online. Just seen Courcelles is around, so I'll ask him. - JuneGloom    Talk  20:34, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll do a test - tell me as soon as you've viewed Kyle's image. Rain the One  BAM 21:17, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * What test? I've seen the image. - JuneGloom    Talk  21:19, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * This one - Now look again - which one looks best? Rain the One  BAM 21:22, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, the second one definitely. - JuneGloom    Talk  21:24, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * My thoughts exactly. Just wanted to give you a bit of a choice in the matter. :)
 * 2012 list up! I think this has been the most productive day for me in a long while. - JuneGloom    Talk  22:07, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

I expected your views not a typo fix. :p I'm going to keep making discussions about anything I can think of for a wide range of subjects that may be brought up at GA. We really don't have any views in our project apart from what the american fansite gang "decided" upon. I'm tired of them showing us up. Rain the One  BAM 15:54, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, typo fixes (and small edits) are all I can manage at the moment. I'm in a fair bit of pain due to a toothache and earache. I have so many things to do, but I just can't muster the energy to do them. :( I'll comment as soon as possible, but I'm in favour of using the DS for the Aussie soaps. - JuneGloom    Talk  16:10, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Weird, I have earache too!!! Like my head around my ear is swollen too.. but I bashed my head on a metal bar while dancing friday night. I'm queen of toothaches too - so if you want any advice with dealing with it. Well I will always use DS over Star, but I meant when they have an exclusive and some reviewers gets cocky. Rain the One  BAM 16:29, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I meant DS as in Daily Star, forgot it has the same initials as Digital Spy. I'm taking ibuprofen at the moment, but I'll tweet you if I need advice. - JuneGloom    Talk  16:34, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * That means any new DigitalSpy articles are Hearst Magazines UK now.. but ones before stay as HF UK, right? Rain the One  BAM 13:40, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I would have thought so. HF UK merged with Nat Mags to form Hearst Magazines UK. God knows which article you'd point a redirect at. - JuneGloom    Talk  13:46, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * How about Hearst Magazines UK? Do you think I'd be wasting my time creating an article for it? Rain the One  BAM 14:08, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * What is the target article? Nat Mags? Hearst Corporation? I don't think it's notable enough for a separate article, maybe a subsection in another article would be better. Btw, Inside Soap and All About Soap are also now published by Hearst. - JuneGloom    Talk  14:16, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Hearst Corp itself. But from what I've read it is the trading name of Nat Mags and not HFM... so I'm still unsure which is better. As section called Hearst Mags UK could be added to Nat mags and the redirect could go there maybe. PS - thankyou for adding the Heidi Costello info, have not got this weeks IS yet. Rain the One  BAM 14:35, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I think a section in Nat Mags would be good. No problem, I had the magazine in front of me and noticed someone else had tried adding the info, but without all the details. I don't know when she's leaving, so I put her at the bottom of the table in the cast list and didn't add a last year to her ibox. - JuneGloom    Talk  14:39, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Gonna hit you up on the old email, k? Rain the One  BAM 22:59, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'm not going anywhere for a while. - JuneGloom    Talk  23:02, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Do you think Kaiya decided to cut her hair or Neighbours requesting a new look? Either way we don't know, but the sources do sound like it could be either - but Sophie's article make it sound like Kaiya cut her hair and Neighbours had to accomodate it. Using this source - you could change it a little and use Kaiya's quote maybe? (I know you are probably thinking "Why don't you do it youself then, you nag" lol) Rain the One  BAM 22:24, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I believe it was Kaiya's choice because she'd had long hair for most of her life (I did the same thing once, but I hated it). I've already used that quote in the article. - JuneGloom    Talk  22:39, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Well if you are sure. I suppose it is quite like when Amy Barnes in Hollyoaks did it. My bad on the quote, just read the last para. ;) Rain the One  BAM 23:05, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * It's okay, I'm gonna move some things around. I just read it back and it didn't sound right to me. - JuneGloom    Talk  23:13, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * What is your opinion on Danny and my dilemma over Daytona Lights? -  Rain the One  BAM 20:10, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not entirely sure what's going on from that discussion. Explain it to me here. - JuneGloom    Talk  22:17, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Basically E4 Hollyoaks first look of Mondays episode aired tonight. Out of no where Daytona Lights members Louis and Lawrence make their debut in the show. When the credits roll it said Louis as the character, the actor was listed simply "As himself". So what I did was have Louis and Lawrence in the character column of the table, and "As themselves" in the actor column. But Danny said it sounded like the I got it the wrong way around and that "as themselves or as himself" should be in the chartacter field. But I didn't think it made sense because you read as himself first, then the actors actual name after. I did not want to set it out as "Louis Souyaye played by Louis Souyaye" because I wanted to make a point they are playing themselves in the show. Confusing. But I listed it like I did because HO credits did, and often movies list Cameo appearances as "Eminem - As himself". Rain the One  BAM 00:49, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
 * If I've understood this right, then I think I agree with your method. If the band are not playing characters, then they should be credited as Themselves/Himself. I noticed they have a section on the 2011 list, and you may not like this, but the table in the middle of the prose does not look good (to me). If you can't put the details into a infobox without it looking messy, then do away with it. Just have the development info and storylines. - JuneGloom    Talk  16:41, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thankyou for looking over it. I hated the table too, but I hated the infobox too - because come tomorrow, clasificastion will be conflicted. But I could just list them as recurring until they all arrive. Does the infobox look okay to you? Rain the One  BAM 17:07, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, leave the classification field as recurring until everyone has arrived. The infobox isn't actually that bad. - JuneGloom    Talk  17:12, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Hey, that is great. =) Did you used to watch it? I reckon Virginia should have something on the "turkey baster" storyline. Another who is probably notable is Olivia, but Annie was always my favourite. Rain the One  BAM 19:45, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I never watched it. I don't want the articles to be deleted if there are sources out there for them. So far it's not looking good for Virginia. - JuneGloom    Talk  19:50, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * It was fabulous and my Nan used to let me watch the omnibus every saturday. :) If you don't find anymore maybe try Olivia. She was like Annie's nemisis fighting over Gregory all the time and the show basically centered around them. Rain the One  BAM 20:14, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Apparently Annie should still be deleted as the sources are "old". Rain the One  BAM 21:26, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Replied and you can archive this thread if you like now, I'll start a new one. Is this our biggest one yet? Rain the One  BAM 00:32, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
 * It has to be in the top three at least, lol. - JuneGloom    Talk  00:35, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Bye!

 * Oh, Mario. It's such a shame you're leaving. I hope you will return one day. It's been great getting to know you and working alongside you. - JuneGloom    Talk  13:51, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Same (likewise) I do hope I return but on my wishes.... HEATHER CHASEN!!!! :D Mayhem  Mario  14:06, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll keep an eye on the article for you. :) - JuneGloom    Talk  14:10, 26 August 2011 (UTC)


 * You on DS froums? And here, if you want to create this article- you can. I started it. That's it- There's a good DYK in there- father beating him, mother cancer etc... and he proves recogniton. But if you dont want to do it pass it onto someone else. But untill you say yes or no, GSorby DO NOT create the article ;) Mayhem  Mario  14:14, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I am on the DS Forums, I'll find you. I've got quite a few articles I'm working on at the moment, so I'm not when I'd get around to working on it. - JuneGloom    Talk  14:19, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Oh that's fine- sorry to destroy your userpage (it looks like a bomb's hit it) well actually as Gungadin is an amzing persuader i'll pop in, here and there, and maybe make the article. Mayhem Mario  14:23, 26 August 2011 (UTC) P.S. Had a bomb hit before I made that edit (JOKES!!!! :) ) <-- double bracket (wierd) :) <-- and again... Mayhem Mario  14:23, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 * My talk page's natural state is to look like a bomb has hit it. Maybe you could put the article into your sandbox and if I (or perhaps someone else) find any references or images, they can be added. - JuneGloom    Talk  14:33, 26 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi, just a quick sneaky question, would you preety please do the rest of the commands at the Heather Chasen GA? It would be great if u could, just extremely busy, and the time flies.... :) That is, if your not busy, if you cant do it, jus say. :) Mayhem  Mario  19:46, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I am busy, but I'll take a look and do what I can. - JuneGloom    Talk  20:15, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Miles Copeland (Home and Away)
I'm not sure why you didn't have credit too. Rain the One  BAM 23:30, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! :) - JuneGloom    Talk  15:38, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Hey!!!
Just a quick request from me :)

See if you come across any socks of User:Theunknownnun could you please request checkuser when filing the SPI? Just every single time we come across a sock with this user we also seem to find sleepers!

One of the sleepers Checkuser found on the last request uploaded the image to Jacqueline Jossa's page. I asked HJ Mitchell to take a look at the image and he's in agreement with me - he thinks it looks like a copyvio. I googled it before and I did find it on websites like Facebook, am starting to think that the editor simply copied and pasted the image from there and wrongly uploaded it on Commons giving it a false certificate to say it's free when it's not. I've asked him to look and see if the editor that uploaded the image to Commons is related to the one that actually added it to the article.


 * Sighs and shakes head*--5 albert square (talk) 23:53, 6 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Request checkuser, got it. It wouldn't surprise me if Jossa's image is a copyvio. While you're here, Dweeby was around earlier on Rainie Cross' article I believe. Oh, I don't suppose you saw the edit I made to the Neighbours article? I'm so happy to finally be rid of those horrible DVD tables. - JuneGloom    Talk  00:00, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Was he? OK, I will keep an eye on Rainie Cross then and I'll have a look at the Neighbours article in a bit.  I still haven't heard from HJ regarding Jossa's image but I'm going to give him a day or two to come back to me.  He might be looking into something with Commons or Checkuser or something.  To me her image just looks too posed, well for a photo that has supposedly been taken by a fan.  I did wonder if it was a photo or something from her agency but when I looked the image she has is totally different, at least the image she has now is.  That's not to say this isn't an old image lol but the only way I'll find that out is if I ask and I can't do that because if it is I'll land Wikipedia in trouble!

By the way did you see what happened on my talk page earlier? :S--5 albert square (talk) 21:55, 7 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I noticed your talk page was all over my watchlist when I logged in, so I had to unwatch your page to see what else was going on! That was pretty crazy. - JuneGloom    Talk  22:21, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

JuneGloom, can you open me an SPI please? User:MelHart98 is User:EllieLucy aka Dude95. Look at the edits of Mel compared to Ellie  - They both never replied to messages, split hollyoaks characters from lists, upload images and get numerous warnings. The give away is that they all upload files for Southpark episodes and get into trouble for it. Rain the One  BAM 15:19, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Will do, but you might have to comment on it/provide diffs as I'm not as familiar with Mel as you are. - JuneGloom    Talk  15:21, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I sure will. Rain the One  BAM 15:25, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Done - . - JuneGloom    Talk  15:27, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thankyou for the help duckie. =) (Lol I put Duck, anyway it is Stokie slang, we are weird and it is a compliment lol)  Rain the One  BAM 16:00, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Lol, thanks. :) - JuneGloom    Talk  16:09, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Random question
Hi this is totally off your usual subjects as i wanted to find somone who is neutral that knows nothing about the situation but is well aware of wikipedia and referencing etc, I have someone in another article that is editing it and has a problem with me editing it. There is proven evidence from a reference i have provided that backs up my edit but cause this person hasnt read the book they are unaware of the evidence. Does this mean that they can keep undoing my edits cause they have a problem with the mention of a certain place? for more info see the article Tarleton many thanks, oh and please reply here and not on my wall as they are watching that too! thanks JMRH6 (talk) 21:27, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


 * This is random. Well, when you add an offline source (like a book) to an article, other editors are supposed to assume good faith and trust the information is correct and present in the book if they do not have a copy. I notice neither of you have taken this to the talk page yet, so I would go there now and start a discussion. State what information you would like to add to the article and what your source is. Ask why your edit wasn't accepted, there could be a good reason. The last thing anyone wants is an edit war. I'd also have a look online for another source that backs up your claim, try Google books or the news archive. I'll keep an eye on the article. - JuneGloom    Talk  22:00, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


 * How very interesting, I thought it was the pov pusher, User:Bankhallbretherton, who had a problem with my edits. However, I will remove trivia and spurious mentions to the aforementioned hall and its multiple offshoots as I too watchlist these and several other Lancashire related articles. You might notice I have expanded the history section, which was always my intention, and provided reliable accessible references. PS remember [this].--J3Mrs (talk) 12:18, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Your just a weirdo that likes to stalk people, i have come to someone totally random for advice who has no connection with you and you still manage to stalk me and put your two peneth in! your a very very odd person, yes User:Bankhallbretherton and I have both experienced your edits. If i edit anything and provide references you always seem to edit afterwards just like you did with User:Bankhallbretherton, I cant see why you have a problem with even the slightest mention like in the Tarleton page which is heavily related to Bank Hall as it is right on the doorstep of Tarleton. You will never be able to change the fact that some articles are related to Bank Hall. Since writing this message to JuneGloom07 (which i am sorry to have brought you into this June, but i didnt think I would be followed like this) I am pleased at the Tarleton Article is now worded and the facts of the families that lived at both Bank Hall and Rufford Old Hall had a joint ownership of the manor of Tarleton, anyway I dont think this issue needs to be discussed much further as it is just getting repetative and old which im sure you will agree. JMRH6 (talk) 01:23, 16 September 2011 (UTC)


 * It's okay. I hope you've managed to get things sorted out. - JuneGloom    Talk  23:21, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

E-mail
You have. Courcelles 23:38, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Oops, forgot to mention I'd replied. - JuneGloom    Talk  23:21, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Joan Miró and Qrpedia
Hello! I've seen that are you are a member of the Wikiproject: Visual Arts and I would like to ask you for some help. The Wikipedia in Catalan have reached an agreement with the Joan Miró Foundation: They will include QRpedia codes next to the highlights of his upcoming exhibition about Joan Miró. It's the most important exhibit in the last 20 years, and has passed summer at Tate in London, this autumn will be in Barcelona, and then will go to NGA in Washington. The articles have been made in Catalan and are being translated into English, and I would like you to help us whether monitoring the translation, translating articles or expanding or translating them to other languages. The more languages ​​we have, the better the experience for the user. You can find more information about the Wikiproject here. Thank you in advance!.--Kippelboy (talk) 12:03, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Soap Operas alert
As a member of the WikiProject Soap Operas, and in accordance with the appropriate notification in deference to canvassing, I am alerting your attention to several current discussions for deletion pertaining to soap opera characters. This is an invitation to participate in the discussion. Best regards,  Cind.   amuse  (Cindy) 20:19, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

The Australian Thread
Hello. Have you seen Grant Mitchell (Home and Away) - I take it we are meant to clean it up? Rain the One  BAM 19:12, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * ARGGHHHH! I'm going to take a couple of deep breaths and then email you. - JuneGloom    Talk  19:21, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thankyou for those sources, didn't know it aired in Aus. Did you ever send me that moose btw? Rain the One  BAM 00:30, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't know either, but thought I'd check. There were a few articles about the soap in amongst all the surfing ones. Yep. - JuneGloom    Talk  16:14, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, guess who's leaving H&A? - JuneGloom    Talk  17:31, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * What, who? :o Rain the One  BAM 18:23, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Miles. :( - JuneGloom    Talk  18:42, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

WHATTTTT!!! I seriously thought he would have stayed long term. Where'd you here that? The upside is I thought you were going to say Charlie, so I'm quite thankful. Rain the One  BAM 20:04, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * It's been reported in TV Week, someone mentioned it in the H&A forums. Apparently Ray Meagher said a character was leaving, when he was on This Morning. Alf goes with them, but he comes back, as Ray is only going to the West End. All we have to do is wait for a proper source. - JuneGloom    Talk  20:15, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll make a big hooharr about it on DS and see if it gets picked up. Rain the One  BAM 20:19, 16 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I know it's so bad that H&A cannot get characters to stay. JG - what did I need to do to get a paged moved quick, but not using an admin? You told me once. I was Annie Douglas Richards moved to Annie Douglas per commonname. Rain the One  BAM 20:57, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Use the 'move' tab at the top of the page. - JuneGloom    Talk  20:59, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I know, I meant when an admin has to - cus the redirect on Annie is blocking the path on the move. I didn't want to trouble 5Albert, so I'll ask AP if he can spare a couple minutes from his hour. lol Rain the One  BAM 22:26, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, you definitely need an admin then. Fluffernutter is around at the mo. - JuneGloom    Talk  22:41, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I need to get to know more admins lol Thanks duck, I asked him. Rain the One  BAM 22:46, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

What should I do about this? Aaron Livesy and Jackson Walsh - propose a redirect on the talk page or nominate AFD? Rain the One  BAM 18:47, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Wait for an admin to delete it? ;) (Sorry, I was afk). - JuneGloom    Talk  19:32, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm very sure I was right to PROD. Angry for knowledge? After fat kings? I'm not familiar with that acronym. lol Rain the One  BAM 20:00, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Away from keyboard. Though I quite like Angry for knowledge, lol. - JuneGloom    Talk  20:01, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I think I've embarraced Holly Willoughby on live TV - - her research sheet obviously used Alf's Wikipedia entry... should I remove the mention of that partic saying? Rain the One  BAM 01:23, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Just realised it was 2010 so I didn't add it, but it was already there in the article. :( I felt all special for a few minutes then. Rain the One  BAM 01:30, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Look at User:Raintheone/Aden Jefferies - do you think it is ready now? (After the lead update) Rain the One  BAM 17:59, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yep, looks good. Though one thing, could you move the pic of Jess to the left? It looks a little odd with the quotebox just above it. You're going to need some help from an admin when you want to move the article to the mainspace. Aden Jefferies was protected following a deletion discussion, so you may have to speak to User:RHaworth, the protecting admin, about moving your article. - JuneGloom    Talk  18:10, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that btw. Working on that all day has given me the worst headache ever. Why do I do it to myself. Rain the One  BAM 21:19, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Right, are any of your friends in high places about right now? I could do with a move and history merge, now the editor unprotected it. Rain the One  BAM 22:25, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Blimey, two edit conflicts on my own talk page! I have so many things I want/have to do, but I can't get my brain in gear to do them. I'm going to watch Crownies and see if I can get the next section in my Ruth Archer article finished by the end of it. I just had a look in the Back to the Bay forums and apparently Romeo's sister, Mink, is returning next month. Someone did add her to the H&A cast list, but I had to remove it as it was unsourced. I think HJ Mitchell is around. - JuneGloom    Talk  22:36, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You've become hot property since you made that article. Mink... regular or guest stint? You know who I want to return, Laura - best guest part in years. So is Crownies any good, cus I wasn't sure if I'd like it or not and only found out about it through looking through Todd interviews... and I loved Mattie. I'll ask him too. :) Rain the One  BAM 22:58, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have attracted a little attention since creating that article. I don't know about Mink, I assume guest stint. I quite enjoy Crownies. I'm totally in love with one of the male characters, Richard, and the personal lives of the lawyers are interesting. I'm also enjoying Wild Boys, with Daniel MacPherson. Now, I must go and do the latest round of Neighbours updates. - JuneGloom    Talk  23:22, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay. I might check some out. Looking foward to Pan AM for Margot. I've fallen too far behind with Neighbours, like so behind I'll have to skip a chunk. Rain the One  BAM 23:38, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Haha. They know how to write a hidden message, it is a shame they do not know how to read one. I'm having a clean up of everybodies favourite - good old Melody. lol I've just noticed your earlier message too, Oliver has been block for his disruptive editing now - that is more evidence the right decision has been made. Rain the One  BAM 18:24, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi, did you both know susan bower is leaving neighbours? Its on ds now.--AcidBrights (talk) 07:28, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I saw it early this morning, but there was no way I was getting out of bed to update the article. - JuneGloom    Talk  13:15, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm so glad to read this absolutely fabulous news. A new direction will be great for the show. Rain the One  BAM 13:50, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The only thing I could think of when I read the news was "I'll have to change the lead in the 2012 cast list." - JuneGloom    Talk  16:39, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Do you think there was there nothing else to add to Grant? Rain the One  BAM 18:54, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, it's been sitting there for over a week with nothing happening. I know you're busy with other things, so it's better that it was redirected for now, rather than deleted. Though if you want to restore it, go ahead. - JuneGloom    Talk  19:08, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Naah, I don't feel like adding anything yet. It probably would get deleted because it isn't US soap related. Infact I'm so fucked off with Wikipedia and the fact bigots have a home here - I'm not sure whether to leave or not. I think I'll mail you now. Rain the One  BAM 19:37, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * There, I've sent you a the biggest message in the world. Rain the One  BAM 20:04, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You weren't kidding, replying now. - JuneGloom    Talk  20:25, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't recieve it. Rain the One  BAM 21:34, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, it should be there now. - JuneGloom    Talk  22:03, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I've emailed you the monal bird pics. lol Rain the One  BAM 23:35, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Sent you the rest of those birds you needed. Rain the One  BAM 22:43, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm so happy with the size of the H&A gallery now - :D Got to love Eva!!! Rain the One  BAM 11:53, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Did you see the two new images I got for Erinsborough? - JuneGloom    Talk  12:26, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Wow. How beautiful is the one of the lake, love that one. Rain the One  BAM 13:03, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I know, I love that one too. The colours are gorgeous. - JuneGloom    Talk  13:21, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thankyou, I used the original but it didn't have the author like that one you found. :) Rain the One  BAM 14:04, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Can you do me a favour that will obviously achieve nothing but make my user page look better? Could you make my GA blocks sit side'by'side like they do on your page. They strech my page. lol Rain the One  BAM 17:46, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Done. - JuneGloom    Talk  18:10, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for doing that, why couldn't I see that was all I had to do. Rain the One  BAM 21:26, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

I've found one of those snobby reviews about H&A - I cannot understand the references the author is making. I think he is critising Leah and Gypsy's birth episode. What would you pull out of it and how would you word it?  Rain the One  BAM 01:28, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not really sure. I think the writer is mainly criticising Vinnie and his arrest. And, shock horror! Alf thinks there has been a population boom due to two babies being born at the same time. I'm going to call it a night. I don't think I've ever had so much trouble writing a Wiki article as I have with the one I'm working on now. The section I've just finished looks awful and is far too big, but I have no idea what to do with it. - JuneGloom    Talk  01:44, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay. Well have a good nights rest. I see you played it the other way where you include reception style info in the development section. The size isn't that bad to be honest - assuming it is completed - you are just being broad in your coverage. Rain the One  BAM 02:10, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm to request a seperate crop of Margot's image. Which portion would you like to be used? I know it needs centering, but would you like her whole body or her uppper half of her body. Which ever you think will look best in Donna's article really. Rain the One  BAM 15:33, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Why does Donna's article need a picture of Margot? I think it just gives other uses the excuse to say "There's a picture of the actress available, we don't need the picture of the character anymore." - JuneGloom    Talk  15:45, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I've just realised, you know Krew!! Wild Boys!! Is it a regular or minor role, I don't want to make anymore mistakes? lol Rain the One  BAM 16:24, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Stewart family - What a bad article that is. Rain the One  BAM 23:18, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I missed your other post. I do know who Krew is now! When I read her article, I was like "Oh my god, she's Ruby!" I wouldn't class her role as minor, maybe recurring. Funnily enough, I just found out Wild Boys won't be picked up for a second series. It's a shame, I've quite enjoyed it. Yeah, I noticed the Stewart family article was bad. What do you want to do with it? PROD? - JuneGloom    Talk  23:54, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, we can go with prod to start off with, glad you agree. Yeah, when I added it to Krew, I thought I'd heard someone mention it before. Btw, I've been carrying out random tasks on the tool server. Do you have Donna's refs archived? I noticed there is over 10 deadlinks and many are not HS. Rain the One  BAM 00:09, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I had quite a few refs archived, I'll take a look. - JuneGloom    Talk  00:25, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Only two dead without archive urls. I'll remove or sort them out at a later date. - JuneGloom    Talk  01:00, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

I do not know who it is, but it is that user that 5Albert always rumbles as a sock. They always create articles for minor child actors.  Rain the One  BAM 22:37, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, looks like the Thunknownnun. I spotted them earlier, but wasn't sure if I had enough evidence to open an SPI. - JuneGloom    Talk  22:55, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * If you do open one, I'll voice my opinion on the matter too. Rain the One  BAM 22:57, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm busy working on an article at the moment, so I don't know when I'll get around to it. - JuneGloom    Talk  23:20, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * That is okay, do it tomorrow when you have time. What you working on? Rain the One  BAM 23:24, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm working on a H&A character. I won't say which one, as I don't want what happened with Robbie Hunter happening again. I had development info to add to that article, but now I've kinda lost interest. - JuneGloom    Talk  23:33, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Lol.. I've also been working on a H&A character offline today. :/ Rain the One  BAM 23:42, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll send you an email and tell you mine. - JuneGloom    Talk  23:54, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Just a random one here, how come you didn't keep Kimberley in Kim's name? Rain the One  BAM 16:31, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't know that was his full first name, I couldn't find anything to say it was. - JuneGloom    Talk  17:07, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Ahh, I know I'm not a source, but Barry used to call it him sometimes. You could cite this wedding episode too -  Rain the One  BAM 17:09, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * That's cool, I'll add it back. I just thought it might be something someone made up. - JuneGloom    Talk  17:29, 15 November 2011 (UTC)


 * - IS just posted this. Rain the One  BAM 15:05, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Excellent, thanks! - JuneGloom    Talk  16:19, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Weird. I was thinking about that this morning, that they would be the only ones left and I thought I'd do Elijah's article before I do Ric's. I could do with that link to the AU mags Flickr thingy again, but message or mail it me. Rain the One  BAM 00:58, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Email sent. - JuneGloom    Talk  01:26, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

The Archers
Hey June, it's been ages since we've spoke. Anyways, i've just started listening to The Archers and I was wondering if you could tell me what the storylines have been for the past couple of months and which ones are happening now if thats ok? I was also wondering is Eleona the carer and her family becoming regulars?--AcidBrights (talk) 19:22, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Blimey, let me watch Downton Abbey first and I'll get back to you. I'm not sure about Elona, I kinda hope she doesn't become a regular. - JuneGloom    Talk  20:21, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I've emailed you, so I don't fill up my talk page with storylines. My memory isn't the greatest, so you might want to have a look at this site, which has a monthly synopses - . Are you listening to Ambridge Extra as well? - JuneGloom    Talk  22:46, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you sooooo much for the email. Yeah i have been listening Ambridge Extra, do you like it?--AcidBrights (talk) 13:11, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh no problem! Do check out that link I mentioned above as well, it'll give you a lot more info. I liked the first series of AE, not sure about the second one yet. I'm still getting used to hearing the inner thoughts of each character. If you ever fancy working on an article together, the AE page could do with some work. - JuneGloom    Talk  13:17, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
Ha ha, thank you! - JuneGloom    Talk  10:19, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

You're pretty fast!
You caught my "capitalize" in only one minute at The Sense of an Ending ! However, I feel compelled to point out that the Concise Oxford Dictionary uses my spelling (from the Greek –izo) as its first preference, per. —BarrelProof (talk) 19:09, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I caught it on the recent changes page, the article was bolded as it's on my watchlist. Surely "capitalise" should be used as it's an English book and author? Isn't "capitalize" the American spelling? Though I just looked at American and British English spelling differences and I've come away feeling quite confused. :/ - JuneGloom    Talk  19:29, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I suppose it could really be either way in that article. The COD is a publication of the Oxford University Press, which of course is a U.K. publisher. It lists a generally-preferred spelling first, which in this case is "-ize", so I believe "-ize" should be acceptable in British English. However, it also lists "-ise" secondarily, so neither is really wrong. The Wikipedia article that you referred to says that in the U.S., "-ise" would be considered incorrect, but both seem to be acceptable elsewhere. I also note that the sentence in question was about U.S. publication, and the referenced source used "-ize" and was a U.S. newspaper, so perhaps that sentence could lean toward U.S. usage. To me, it's not really so important (and I won't revert you again if you choose to repeat your edit). I am not a subscriber to the dogma used by some people for some articles that I edit, where some people say that if it is produced in Scotland it must always be referred to as "whisky" and if it is produced in Ireland it has to be called "whiskey". —BarrelProof (talk) 20:40, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * It's okay, I'll leave the spelling as it is. :) - JuneGloom    Talk  20:42, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The "-ize" suffix is acceptable in British English, but it's uncommon. I've never met a Brit in real life who used it (and I had exactly the same reaction as you, June, the first time I saw it). :) HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   22:13, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The subsection entitled "British usage" in that article section at American and British English spelling differences is interesting reading. It says that while Oxford strongly prefers -ize, Cambridge prefers -ise, and -ise is more common in mass-market publications. It also says that "-ize is often incorrectly viewed in Britain as an Americanism".  It points to the Greek root as the distinction of when to use which, as I did. Words not from the Greek are suggested to use -ise. It's also interesting to note that according to that discussion, the ratio between -ise and -ize stands at 3:2 in the British National Corpus, so while -ise may be more common, there is certainly a lot of -ize found out in the wild in British English. —BarrelProof (talk) 22:29, 21 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Aw, thank you! The Sense of an Ending is probably the quickest article I've ever created. I started it three hours before the Man Booker Prize was announced and moved it to the mainspace shortly afterward. I'm hoping the book gets nominated for a few more awards to pad that section out. - JuneGloom    Talk  21:53, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

The Archers
Hey, I thought I would make a new section seen as my old one is so far up. I was just wondering whether you could tell me what Usha Frank's storylines have been lately, I know her past ones, but she's seemed relitavley quiet since i've started listening, I have only heard her voice once. Thanks--AcidBrights (talk) 13:51, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, that's okay. I don't think Usha's been around much lately (much like Ian, who disappeared for months). I know she started a book club with some of the other residents (Jim, Jennifer, Susan, Lynda, etc), but I can't think of anything else she's done. - JuneGloom    Talk  15:46, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit request for List of past Hollyoaks characters
Could I get you to revert two sets of edits to the List of past Hollyoaks characters page, specificaly, mine (starting from 21:57, 28 October 2011) and 87.112.116.46's? I tried undoing their edits to the years (according to WP:YEAR) but for some reason it ended up undoing my edits too :( . Thanks in advance. Vuvuzela2010 (talk) 22:06, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem and done. :) - JuneGloom    Talk  22:10, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Neighbours External Links
Just a quick question - I've seen that you have improved the external links on Neighbours. However, whilst you have fixed a few links and added some new ones, I noticed you removed the tours, nights and Perfect Blend. Could you clarify why these have been removed, as they all appear to be active and relevant still?

I don't want to revert, as I expect there is a logical reason, so I thought I'd ask. Thanks. Adamiow (talk) 13:19, 30 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi. It did kinda seem like we were promoting the tours and the nights. The tour is vaguely mentioned in the article itself, but the nights aren't. I also couldn't see how they enhanced the reader's knowledge of the subject. The Perfect Blend is essentially a fansite, so I removed that per WP:ELNO. - JuneGloom    Talk  15:04, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * An argument could be made that The Perfect Blend provides a unique resource beyond what an encyclopaedia article can offer, but it's very much a case of editorial judgement and trying to keep the linkfarm under control. While the ELs are under discussion though, I'd be inclined to remove "TV.com", "What's on TV", and "The Soap Show", and I'm not entirely sure what the "Official Erinsborough News" website is adding. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   16:05, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't really have any objection to PB being added back. I did question The Soap Show, I'm not entirely sure where that one came from (it's been there for a while though). I thought the What's on TV one would be okay. They have a history of the show, get exclusive interviews with the cast and provide episode summaries. The Erinsborough News one is run by the official AU site and does provide extra info, though perhaps it's better suited to Erinsborough? - JuneGloom    Talk  16:14, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Apologies for not coming back to this - I wasn't aware anyone had replied. Whilst I do feel they are beneficial, I appreciate your views on the tours and nights links. However, Perfect Blend is a good resource and in my opinion, better than some listed. What's On TV seems slightly questionable, as clearly, lots of other websites provide similar content. The Erinsborough News website is a little odd, as the content is minimal and will be confusing to most readers, due to its in show setting. Personally, it would be good for Perfect Blend to return and Erinsborough News to go, and I am open to opinions on the rest. Thanks. Adamiow (talk) 23:55, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I've added PB back and removed TV.com, The Soap Show and Erinsborough News. - JuneGloom    Talk  21:53, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Soaps
Hey, I was just wondering whether we could have a chat about this: basically, i've noticed recently on the articles you have created and heavily edited that you now just put "British soap opera Emmerdale" rather than "British ITV soap opera Emmerdale. so i was just wondering what was the thinking behind it because i really prefer your way and think its a good idea. plus, i need a bit of adivce myself.--AcidBrights (talk) 15:12, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I think it's probably just personal preference. Though looking at Neighbours, it made sense not to include the channel because it's been on three different ones. - JuneGloom    Talk  15:33, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi
Hi, I see youve got the new IS, do you or can you see any information about Poppy, or there double act? Thanks, :)

P.S. Any more charcaters spoilers, and send me a talkback please, I always forget, once again thansk :D Mayhem  Mario  18:02, 15 November 2011 (UTC)


 * The only bit I saw about Poppy was this, during Bryan's Q&A: "We may see Poppy pop up as I'm a big fan of Rachel Bright and the character, but Kylie [Babbington, aka Jodie] is keen to pursue other roles." Also, Bryan confirmed Peggy will not be returning for Pat's exit. There are plenty of other character spoilers, but I'm not typing them all out. - JuneGloom    Talk  18:15, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Is that a direct quote- im keen to put that into her article, can you give me the info, thanks :) Mayhem  Mario  18:22, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yep, it's the direct quote. Here - - JuneGloom    Talk  18:30, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, so much, I just reliazed anyone could have added that to Poppy's page, but I guess I feel so attached to it... :) Do you upload images?! Mayhem  Mario  19:00, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Only if they're free. You could try asking Rain though. - JuneGloom    Talk  20:27, 15 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Per discussion with Frickative- we decided that Poppy should have her promo image on her article- now I did ask GSorby but due to him being at work (I think), he dosent have much time, so I was wondering.... Can you do it? I would be so happy if you could, thanks anyway :P Mayhem  Mario  16:21, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I can't. I only upload images if they're free as I know what I'm doing there. Like I said above, try asking Rain. - JuneGloom    Talk  16:25, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Mario - Save the promo image on your destop, upload it in place of the current image - change the fair use rationale and source ID to comply with promotional image use. Really easy bud. :) Rain the One  BAM 16:30, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, right, im going to do it!!!! So, where do I get the image from? Mayhem  Mario  16:36, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Wait? You don't have the image? Do some research looking through press releases, official websites and so on. Rain the One  BAM 17:13, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * YAY! I did it! I can now officialy upload images. Thanks Rain!! :P Mayhem  Mario  17:18, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

The Aus' One
Hellor. Does Elijah's article look okay? I'll do Bianca, but where has April got to? :p Rain the One  BAM 00:20, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey! Elijah's article looks great! I'm just finishing April's lead now. - JuneGloom    Talk  00:22, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Ooohh yay! I noticed you used a zoomed out pic of DJR, did you notice this cute pic File:David Jones-Roberts 2.jpg. Elijah could have been better if it weren't for Laga'aia. Not a good PR choice for the show. So many interviews with him while he has been there and all he chats about is "I'm in Home and Away, but did I mention I present a kids show, I was in the Lion King, Elijah is cool but I was actually in Star Wars." Even on the official website he would rather talk about his ukele thingy. Rain the One  BAM 00:34, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, that is a better pic of DJR! Thanks. Tbh if I had been in Star Wars, I would milk that to death too. - JuneGloom    Talk
 * Finished! It's not the greatest lead I've ever written, but it does the job. I hope some more info about April and Heath comes out, so I can expand that section and add a pic of Dan Ewing. It doesn't quite fit at the moment. Now I need a friendly admin to move the article... - JuneGloom    Talk  00:43, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * We have another image of him aswell. So many people are being generous with their H&A images too. Well I'll wait up so I can add the April pic for you. Rain the One  BAM 01:09, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd say he is off the back of Leah's storylines, it could make an okay section, I don't think it'll do any harm to try. If he were in a US soap opera alls he would have to do is sneeze to get a consensus for an article. lol Rain the One  BAM 01:44, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thankyou for that. :) Anything about early casting is welcome. Could you invade the sandbox please? I'd like you to finish the storyline section with the last few weeks of Aus pace. I mean to stuff about this car crash where she covers for Charlie - I don't know the specifics yet, and it help me be accurate in the development section. Rain the One  BAM 18:48, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, could you ask another admin to move April - it doesn't look like he'll be around. Rain the One  BAM 21:11, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Updated Bianca's storylines for you. I'll give Courcelles a bit more time. - JuneGloom    Talk  21:56, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. :) Okay, I'm being a little eager. lol Rain the One  BAM 22:10, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * To add to that a super thankyou!!!!!! I was tearing my hair out earlier, trying to get the url for Bianca's Holy Soap. :D Rain the One  BAM 22:14, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Ohhh when will I complete this article, it is never ending! I'm actually dreading the lead for once. lol Rain the One  BAM 23:14, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh dear, there does seem to be a lot more info out there for Bianca. The article is looking good though. - JuneGloom    Talk  23:48, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Well it is in the mainspace now, yay! Though, Ric can get stuffed for a few days - Bianca's stole my mojo. :/ Rain the One  BAM 01:56, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I know how you feel. - JuneGloom    Talk  15:41, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I've been thinking about it the other day. We've got a reference to support that her contract ran out in October - but with Libby being removed from the credits, it adds to that. I think we should list her as past now. We've been right to wade the others from changing it though, because she could of easily returned at any point before now. We just went off the info we had, but it looks like a different story now. Rain the One  BAM 16:57, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I think I agree. I'm going to put something on the article's talk page, you can copy your response here to there if you like. - JuneGloom    Talk  17:09, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * While I was researching whats good for Ric's storylines and what not.. I came across Dan Ewing, I heard he was in it before but never realised it was him!  Rain the One  BAM 20:13, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Ha, nice hair! - JuneGloom    Talk  20:19, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

ARG!! I've just completed Ric's storyline section and when I clicked save wiki crashed on me! :( :( Rain the One  BAM 21:22, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh no! :( That's happened to me before, so now I copy and paste the text into a word pad document first. - JuneGloom    Talk  21:36, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * There isn't any information as I've looked for her so many times. Are there no offline sources? Can't remember if she was or wasn't mentioned in the books. She should be merged. I just thought we can concentrate on all of the outstanding Neighbours problems when we have kicked a little more Summer Bay Butt. It rats me that we are following the rules, merging GNG failures, while the American soap universe do as they please. I'm in danger of adopting the "If you can't beat them, join them" attitude. lol I thought you would like Malcolm's image, I have been trying for a while but he always has frown lines or has his eyes half shut. Rain the One  BAM 19:59, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I've also looked for sources for her and only came up with the casting info that's in the article. Continue with the H&A articles for now, we can tackle the Neighbours articles in the new year. I still have so much info to go through and add from those soap mags I bought a while ago. Billy and Anne's articles will benefit the most from them I think. - JuneGloom    Talk  20:08, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * That sounds good and I'm glad Anne will get something new. I forgot to ask about a potential article for VJ, we could do a collab if you are up for it. Rain the One  BAM 20:13, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Do you think there's enough info for him out there? - JuneGloom    Talk  21:47, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I know that there is info on his birth episode, something about Dan, he had a storyline in 2009 in which he was bullied (not looked for anything yet though) and through Leah's storyline's last year, Nicodemou described the effect it had on VJ. I think TV Week did something about his surf accident this year. Hmm. Clutching at straws or something to build off? Rain the One  BAM 21:53, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I suppose it wouldn't hurt to look and maybe create a userspace draft. If there isn't enough info, we can keep it and add to it later. - JuneGloom    Talk  21:56, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Been told to start a wikiproject for Home and Away. I am open to the idea now - but I was thinking that there could be a joint wikiproject to justify it a little more. Aka - Wikiproject:Home and Away and Neighbours. What would you say to that? Rain the One  BAM 17:20, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I really dislike the idea of a separate or joint WikiProject for Neighbours and H&A. Anyway, you usually need 6–12 active Wikipedians to start one and I'm pretty sure we don't have those for either soap. - JuneGloom    Talk  18:14, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I started it here. I'd do the work on creating it and tagging the articles with the banner. We do have some active members, I was going to ask some to offer their opinion. Rain the One  BAM 18:19, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Considering some of the active members who are part of WP:SOAPS ignore the guidelines set by that project, what makes you think they will listen to the guidelines set by a Neighbours & H&A WikiProject? Is this just because you want to set up a gallery of free images for the soaps? I don't think you need to start a whole WikiProject to do that. - JuneGloom    Talk  18:24, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Any WikiProject that contains a sockpuppet as a member is one I'm definitely not going to join. - JuneGloom    Talk  18:28, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Who did I ask? the sock puppet? Well it was initially about the gallery sure, because yet again AU soaps cannot make one and the others can. The 'help desk' made me think about making one, but then I thought it could be helpful considering what I mentioned yesterday. A big discussion. I also thought it could combat other issues and set a rule about reacreating articles etc without consensus. WP:SOAPS is outdated and it is too much hassle to try and change a bunch of fansite editors minds. WP:EE started off with just a few active members and grew. Atleast open your mind to the idea, I know it is something you have obviously thought about in the past and formed an opinion on, as have I. I originally thought it could be a good idea until it become too obvious it was just me and you interested in improving them. We could recruit more hand. WP:EE work well as a unit, they decide things and have a good handle on everything these days. Rain the One  BAM 18:38, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't really see the need for a gallery, you can just link to the one on Commons. I have opened my mind to the idea in the past, now and probably sometime in the future. Believe me I have thought about it. Oh and EE don't have that good a handle on things, especially since AP started having computer issues. Just look at the Derek issue I brought up on the Project's talk page. It took nearly 12 hours for anyone to notice his article had been split off. 12! And I'm not even a member of the Project. - JuneGloom    Talk  19:02, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Well the commons people have been moaning at me latley and removing the H&A cat so more are going missing from the main page... So thats what made me want one with them all grouped together. You know, it probably won't create enough interest anyway. It could be something new, it could work, it is likely to fail - but I've never tried before. I know me and you could make it work hands down, but I'd like more editors. Imagine if someone knew came to help after seeing the project and learning from it. There would would be a guidelines, maybe new editors or IP's may read them - could even start to follow them. I dunno, but I guess I do not know because I haven't tried yet. Atleast if it failed, we could say it didn't work. A lot of discussion is scattered a lot - we have like a good idea of how these things should be set out - but it isn't a consensus based one. We could get that there. IMO we have the best formula so I thought it would be good to utilise that and turn it into some form of guideline for these two blocks of articles to follow. Rain the One  BAM 19:43, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Let me think about it some more. I'm not that keen on a joint Project, but I can appreciate the lack of numbers for individual Projects. I do have certain issues with the whole thing that I don't want to reveal here, so I'll send you an email a bit later. - JuneGloom    Talk  19:59, 1 December 2011 (UTC) I'll keep a check on my mail. but What! Wait? Amy Wyatt is at GA... via lazy review... I cannot remember the last time someone bothered to review something. Quite disapointed. lol Rain the One  BAM 20:33, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * They're just great and quite invaluable. I love how they have described Annie and said that Christmas came early for Virginia. ha. Where'd you get some from so far back? If you know of somewhere with more could you mail a link? Rain the One  BAM 23:28, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * They're from those soap mags I purchased a while back. I'm going through them now looking for all the Neighbours (and sometimes H&A) stuff. I'm scanning the articles to my computer, so I don't have to keep getting the box out. I've started with the All About Soap and Soaplife mags, then I'll move onto the Inside Soaps. I haven't used MediaFire before, so I'm glad the link worked. - JuneGloom    Talk  23:44, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh I see. I shouldn't really ask as I know how it feels to get mag requests, but can you keep an eye out for anything great about Hollyoaks. Especially anything on Darren Osbourne, Gina Patrick and Luke Morgan. Rain the One  BAM 23:50, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure, I did see something about Darren earlier, so I'll go scan it now. - JuneGloom    Talk  23:52, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thankyou, the mail pigeon has also visited you too. Rain the One  BAM 01:01, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm glad the fields have been sorted, long overdue. Well I don't think anyone is interested in a wikiproject sadly. I was really up for it yesterday, but following the lack of response it is clear that your initial worries above were correct. I'll have to notify the board and ask where this gallery can be placed now. Rain the One  BAM 18:05, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Sent you an email. - JuneGloom    Talk  21:34, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I sent you them in my reply, got a great shot of a flock of hampshire lambs. Rain the One  BAM 22:40, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

I think I may have solved a sock problem, quick go look. :D Rain the One  BAM 00:44, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You nailed it! - JuneGloom    Talk  00:48, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Opened the SPI, if I hadn't looked at Gina Seddon I probably wouldn't have noticed. Rain the One  BAM 01:02, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Would you object to me moving the The Great Storm article into the mainspace? Rain the One  BAM 00:31, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Lol, no. Why would I? It's a good article. - JuneGloom    Talk  00:37, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm glad you think so. I'm kinda ratted at it, as I thought there would have been more reception information. I didn't do a source check first. I could always add episode cites, but it is pretty obvious which block of episodes to verify with. Also, Cameron Welsh twice refered to it as a week's block of special episodes - so I was in two minds about whether to includ stuff about Gypsy or not. Maybe that is going off scope though? Rain the One  BAM 00:57, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Huh, I was expecting there to be more reception info out there too. I don't think I would have included Gypsy's return either. - JuneGloom    Talk  01:00, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm going to keep checking the Free library to see if any of Trinity Mirror's publications have offered up anything, the record usually has something to say about H&A. Rain the One  BAM 01:05, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh that sounds good, I'll be sure to remind you. Thanks :) Rain the One  BAM 01:13, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Btw, I was looking through this archive and it has quite a few refs for Neighbours. Some good reception so far, incase I miss anything though. :) Rain the One  BAM 03:22, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm here to remind you about Lance. lol :) Rain the One  BAM 16:28, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I'm looking for it, while expanding Justine Welles' article at the same time. - JuneGloom    Talk  16:33, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Here you go - . I also have a Hollyoaks article for you too. - JuneGloom    Talk  16:57, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, could you send me the direct url's for each download though. It takes me to my own files because you were veiwing with links that only you can use, if you get what I'm trying to say. lol Rain the One  BAM 17:04, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, hopefully they should be working now - and . -  JuneGloom    Talk  17:06, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * That Hollyoaks one will be soooo useful! :) Thankyou!! Rain the One  BAM 17:18, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Tweeted about annuals Rain the One  BAM 18:39, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Replied. - JuneGloom    Talk  18:51, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, I noticed the name and was like "thats Angelo's girlfriend!" Finally a another regular too! Rain the One  BAM 22:07, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm still looking for sources and this came up - - Atleast some one read it lol Rain the One  BAM 22:35, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Lol! - JuneGloom    Talk  22:36, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

You know the Brian bot, is that the one not working for you? I emailed him when it broke last time and he replied within the hour to fix it. Rain the One  BAM 00:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Yep, I think that's the one. I'll go email him. I feel really bad for breaking the bot. - JuneGloom    Talk  00:42, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Tut, tut! I dunno if you have seen it, but when it goes down I use this one. Rain the One  BAM 00:49, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
 * This is for the Dani Sutherland article.  Rain the One  BAM 01:48, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

I've sent you the scans. :) Rain the One  BAM 14:48, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! - JuneGloom    Talk  15:01, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Not sure what you are up to with Perdy and Hari but I looked through my inside soaps and found something I could add if you like? Rain the One  BAM 00:16, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Please do! I just wanted to get the articles cleaned up before I started adding some development info. Perdy was one of my favourite characters. I also want to get Bernice sorted out too at some point. - JuneGloom    Talk  00:20, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I added it, I had to turn the stuff with Hari into reception as there was no actor commentry when i actually read it. Got two Perdy What's on Tv interviews in my archive link sandbox aswell. Rain the One  BAM 02:02, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * That's great, thanks! - JuneGloom    Talk  02:18, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for this, but Oh dear! How typical of Hollyoaks! What is a "plum role" - a guest role? Rain the One  BAM 22:44, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * It just means a good role, but I would have thought he would be a guest - surely Hollyoaks wouldn't make him a regular? Lol. - JuneGloom    Talk  22:47, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I was going to add him to the 2011 list, but then remembered it is December. Don't think there is enough info to start the 2012 list.. Dilemma! .. and Maybe he could be paired with Liberty Savage - Look at this an you'll see what I mean - . Rain the One  BAM 23:27, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm, you may have to wait till more sites pick up the story. Lol, I do see what you mean. - JuneGloom    Talk  23:35, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Finally, a bit of praise for our efforts! Nice ain't it. :) Rain the One  BAM 17:11, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * That was quite sweet. Though I'm not sure how I feel about being referred to as a side kick, lol. Those American soaps need all the help they can get, so it's nice to see someone is willing to take some of them on. - JuneGloom    Talk  17:19, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I listed you as my sidekick on my user page yonks ago, but I never thought of what it really means in the world of superheroes. Like Robin was Batman's sidekick but Batman was the main. What can I rename you as? I'll have to reply to him now and encourage the use of the layout. Rain the One  BAM 18:39, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm more of a Batgirl than a Robin. ;) - JuneGloom    Talk  19:51, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

It is great that you sourced everyone! It must have took ages and to find sources for the obscure characters aswell! I've had a shot at H&A and Hollyoaks' list but I get bored too easy. Rain the One  BAM 21:42, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. It did take a while to make everything sortable and it did get boring at times. I think it's one of the best births, marriages and deaths lists out there now. - JuneGloom    Talk  22:36, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Can I steal your brilliant layout for HO & H&A? I love the father/mother/husband/wife fields. It won't work for Emmerdale though because of Paul and Johnny lol Rain the One  BAM 23:08, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Go for it! - JuneGloom    Talk  23:10, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd just list the surrogate mothers as the birth mothers - I'd thought about it last time I edited the list but didn't change it. What do you think? Rain the One  BAM 00:52, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I think I agree. Do you want me to change the table over now or do you want to find the refs first? - JuneGloom    Talk  00:54, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You can do it now. I'll carry on with the refs later. :) Rain the One  BAM 01:30, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Take your time with the sorting. But don't take your time with the Inside Soap, eeek! I adore Steven! I'm wondering if I should order that Inside Soap with Emmerdale Dec 96 on the front, you don't have it do you? Rain the One  BAM 18:19, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Done - . I don't have that Inside Soap, but I'm sure it would be quite useful. The earlier 90s issues had lots of Neighbours info in them. - JuneGloom    Talk  20:07, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Hurrah, I found the issue number! It's 46. - JuneGloom    Talk  20:23, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I was going to say that they usually list list the issue number on the contents page. They described him quite a lot. I think I'll use that information for reception and maybe something on Quin. It is better as reception rather than characterisation isnt it? Rain the One  BAM 20:37, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The issue number isn't on the contents page, that's the first place I looked. They must have started listing it there a couple of years later. I think the info could work in both sections. - JuneGloom    Talk  20:45, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

After I put that I thought you'd obviously look there too. *Slap head** :P Do you know any additional admins that would move Ric? I don't think HJ and Courcelles are around atm. Rain the One  BAM 20:55, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * DMacks is the only one I can find who appears to be around atm. While you're here, could you find an image for Marlene Kratz's article, please? - JuneGloom    Talk  21:13, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I was already uploading it. ;) I'll ask now, thankyou muchly. Rain the One  BAM 21:20, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks! - JuneGloom    Talk  21:38, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

woooooooooooooo - How about that then. Rain the One  BAM 18:14, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You and the NLoA are amazing! :D - JuneGloom    Talk  18:19, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

I've been researching archives. IPC Media sell back issues of Soaplife, TVTimes and WoT. I found those links using Trove - - They have every AU newspaper until 1982 (grr...) and list journals and archived websites. Two pay ones are the Irish Archive Wich have hundreds of potential sources and the pressonline  - I'll certainly consider buying a day pass when I get a job again. The annuals arrived today, but got to wait until xmas day. Did you have the "Neighbours Special" annual? Rain the One  BAM 19:21, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You forgot about me. =[ lol Rain the One  BAM 23:43, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I got carried away expanding articles. Good job on the archives and I do have the Neighbours Special annual. I think I have them all actually. - JuneGloom    Talk  23:59, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, I had never heard of it before thats why I wondered. Rain the One  BAM 01:21, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I think it's an unofficial annual released by different company. - JuneGloom    Talk  16:21, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Are you finding the top 20 Aussie moments useful? I'm not sure what to do because they are only available online for six days a each. Rain the One  BAM 17:57, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
 * That was spectacular timing. I've only just got in and logged on. :) I was going to wait for the show to finish to see if a list of the top 20 moments goes up on the website. Otherwise we'll have to use cite episode if we want to include the show in the articles. - JuneGloom    Talk  18:03, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
 * They have some pretty great development information too don't they. Like the stuff Dan Ewing said about Brodie could be used in his list entry and Colleen got a good run down. Some of it has already been said in interview, but there are quite a few points like what Ryan and Eve said about Toadie's job. So we could use them in development sections right? If they are not availble as torrents or youtube, we might lose out. So shall I have ago at trancribing all of the interviews? Rain the One  BAM 18:35, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, I didn't think about the development info. Yeah, I guess it can be used. Hopefully someone will put the shows on YouTube at some point, but have a go at transcribing the interviews. :) - JuneGloom    Talk  18:44, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Tweeted. & Tonights episode was great for Jade and Tash. The H&A lot best talk loads about the Great Storm tomorrow, I want an article update! Rain the One  BAM 18:03, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Replied. - JuneGloom    Talk  20:30, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Some nosey parker removing the category from Indiana's images annoyed me so - User:Raintheone/Home and Away free-use images - yay. Rain the One  BAM 23:18, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Ha, that's cool. Nice to know they're all in one place. Could you do me a favour? Can you ask the folks at the resource board if they can get a copy of this? It's about the night Emma Harrison took her knickers off at the Logies, but I want to know if the article mentions her award nomination (because I can't find a reliable source for it anywhere).
 * Ooo, I found it online and it doesn't mention it -  Rain the One  BAM 00:41, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah shoot. - JuneGloom    Talk  00:51, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Hartman - I thought about creating an article for her once, can't wait to see it. Rain the One  BAM 02:56, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * That's what I thought, thanks. I only decided to recreate her article after I got that Inside Soap with all the Neighbours info in it. There was a page about her PR company with Annalise (which I'll also add to her article) and something about a new contract. - JuneGloom    Talk  14:43, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Annalise should have a really good article when when all the information is added, I've seen a few other refs that I forgot to add to her talk page, so I'll have to hunt them down. I've been meaning to add info to Roo for the past two days, but that Super Aussie soap book no longer has a preview on google, so I dunno what pages the information was on. I was going to do a bibliography aswell, so I wanted to be more specific. Rain the One  BAM 14:55, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * It's fecking amazing what you've done with her! Just seen it and I'm impressed. Btw, direct external link for her n.com profile  Rain the One  BAM 15:33, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the compliment and the link! Have you got the new Inside Soap yet? - JuneGloom    Talk  17:16, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Nope, either tomorrow or saturday. Something good in it? Rain the One  BAM 17:36, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * There's a good interview with Nicola Charles (Neighbours' Sarah) and they confirm Charlie is leaving H&A. - JuneGloom    Talk  17:41, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh that is handy... but MAJOR GROWL at Charlie - I hope they don't kill her off, but it looks that way. Are you going to update Charlie and the character list? Oh and lets not take any more characters to GA, it makes them leave... Nicole, Miles ... Charlie Rain the One  BAM 17:44, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The exact quote is "Esther has confirmed that she's leaving the show, though she'll be on UK screens for a while yet." Do you think that's enough to go on? And OMG did you just see the Neighbours 2012 preview on the Aussie top moments show? - JuneGloom    Talk  18:00, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that should be enough, we kinda knew it was true and just needed some confirmation. And nopes, because at quater to six I said "Oh fecking screw you Roo" upon realising I had forgotton about the show. Demand5 before bed for me. Rain the One  BAM 18:10, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, not entirely satisfied, so best of a bad bunch, which do you think works the best, -  Rain the One  BAM 23:36, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I think 2 or 3...lets go with 3. - JuneGloom    Talk  23:44, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * All done-d-d-done :) Rain the One  BAM 00:02, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sure you have thought about it before. I did try.. but naughty Kirsten Gannon failed to generate headlines. List? Rain the One  BAM 00:23, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Is there nothing in the news store or the free library? - JuneGloom    Talk  00:28, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * There was an extra reception already at the talk page, I remembered there was one link in the free library - but it is so thin on opinion. Apart from that nothing. I think the only hope really is TV Weeks and Inside Soap and Jaci Stephen - that is assuming they did talk about her. Guess we could wait a few more weeks thinking about WP:DEADLINE. Rain the One  BAM 01:04, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay. I've just gone through the info and the storylines need a lot of fixing. I'll do that now and I'll fix that TV Week ref too. - JuneGloom    Talk  01:10, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * That is good - it needed hammering down. I really thought the Paul affair would have hurled out sources. Rain the One  BAM 01:26, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

I never replied sorry. I'll keep and eye on the H&A list, obviously there is going to be Chax fans unable to accept that Charlie is off. ED's list is totes ridic like you said. Hopefully someone sees it and offers comment. Poor Emmerdale never garners any interest.. yet it has a Wikiproject lol Rain the One  BAM 15:02, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
For the scans for Darren's article, they're really useful :) D4nnyw14 (talk) 18:43, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem, I'll keep an eye out for more articles as I go through the rest of the mags. - JuneGloom    Talk  19:07, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * That'd be great thanks, do you know what issue that scan was from? D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:50, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Did it not say in the title? It was 7. - JuneGloom    Talk  19:57, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Just realised it did, i'm just too dosey to look in the most obvious places but thanks. D4nnyw14 (talk) 20:02, 2 December 2011 (UTC)