User talk:Junglejill

== Copyediting ==

I hope we see you at the Guild. --Greenmaven (talk) 12:58, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Islam in Malaysia
The IP was right to remove the section, even if s/he gave the wrong reason. It is entirely unsourced and that raises WP:BLP issues. -- Neil N   talk to me  23:44, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Note I have moved your comment to the bottom per WP:TPG. -- Neil N   talk to me  23:50, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree that the section is poor, obviously. However, there's obviously such a thing as "Manhaj Islam Hadhari" that used to be encouraged by the former prime minister or whatever... do you propose that there should be no information on it? Obviously you know WP policies better, but that doesn't sound right. I honestly have nothing to do with the subject and have no intention of researching it, if I edited the section according to what I know it would probably say close to nothing at all.  ʝungle  jill  23:54, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * See my response on the article's talk page. -- Neil N   talk to me  00:12, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

RE: Yo Soy 132
Thank you for the advice, I'll keep it in mind. Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions.  04:58, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
 * It was created with the purpose of notify readers that the page is widely visible and edited at the moment they are reading the article, and many information may change rapidly. Also it is used if an event, like a disaster or a spaceflight, is continuous. Another option to add it is what users did at Occupy the Farm (adding the category "Current events" without the template), but I don't know the validity to do that.  Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!  See terms and conditions.  16:45, 13 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Quite an article coming along;. After the election you could try and get it for GA. Just a heads up though to be consistent in wikilink and italics for media outlets. I added an infobox, which you two can further improve. Im not following it as closely(Lihaas (talk) 13:55, 14 June 2012 (UTC)).


 * Don't worry, every correction helps me, also I noticed the not/no and I didn't analize which was correct. Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!  See terms and conditions.  23:41, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Capitalization of dodo
Hi Junglejill. I saw your question about it. I'm afraid dodo should be lower case. It isn't a proper noun and, as a species name, it's subject to MOS:LIFE in the Manual of Style. Kind regards, --Stfg (talk) 09:38, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that. Looking again, it seems to depend on what the IOC lists say. I'll look further. --Stfg (talk) 09:43, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * You were right to capitalize, per WikiProject Birds. Sorry about the previous confusion. Kind regards, Simon. --Stfg (talk) 09:52, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Hoozah. That is really good to hear. Capitalization was a total pain, with all the files, quotes etc. containing "dodo". Thanks, now I know where to find definitive instructions on capitalization. ʝungle  jill  23:22, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Reply
Hi, user. Thanks for the reply. I actually edited the section during the last year, but because of my work, I leave them for the past 6 months so that I could let other people edit it. Now although its good to come back at here, but unfortunately many of the articles, including the Arab Spring itself has a lot of un-written important events and major errors, for example the 3rd Jordanian premier resigns and the anti-regime in Mauritania (just to let you know for trivia) and the duration of revolts in Egypts ENDs at 18 days ONLY. But bottomline, thank you. 175.137.55.62 (talk) 09:44, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the new computer
I'll keep an eye out for the UPS man! Tlqk56 (talk) 13:46, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Trust Issues (song)
hi marvins room is on the en wiki by drake maybe someone could fix trust issues up a lil bit. --Jme113k (talk) 13:54, 14 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry, for some reason I couldn't find who Drake was before. Removed the tag for now but the song probably doesn't deserve its own article. Will take a look later. ʝungle  jill  14:00, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I have removed your CSD nomination at Trust Issues (song). A redirect is not eligible for deletion under WP:CSD. Trust Issues (song) was turned into a redirect by User:TexasAndroid for the reason that the subject has "no indication of independent notability" for an article. As you nominated it for deletion under CSD, I'm assuming you don't challenge the view that the article shouldn't exist. If you think the redirect also shouldn't exist, then you should take this up at Redirects for discussion. Thanks! -- KTC (talk) 22:12, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know. Isn't this too bureaucratic? Let me recap: someone created this as an ungrammatical, completely deletable one-liner about a non-notable musical recording. I patrolled the page and marked it for speedy deletion. The creator then informed me that this song is by a famous rapper - I didn't realize this, because he wrote Drakes instead of Drake. I was in a hurry to fulfill a meatspace obligation, so I removed the speedy deletion template just to be sure, and figured I'd take care of it later. Another editor then blanked the page and turned it into a redirect to Drake's discography. I have no idea why - no pages link to it, and even if they did, they shouldn't - someone who clicks on "trust issues (song title)" doesn't want to be redirected to the discography; they clicked because they thought there was an article with something interesting to say about it. Now you're telling me it can't be speedy deleted on a technicality - this is the time to ignore all rules and just get rid of this misbegotten creation. ʝungle  jill  22:40, 14 June 2012 (UTC)


 * If I'd not erred on the side of caution and left the speedy deletion template up, the article would've been a goner. I see that I'm allowed to expand a redirect into an article. If you're uncomfortable with deleting it, I'm going to "expand" it back into its original state and nominate it for speedy deletion. Does this sound absurd enough? ʝungle  jill  23:00, 14 June 2012 (UTC)


 * It's not unusual to redirect a page where the subject doesn't stand up on its own as an article into a parent subject, whether that be song -> album, artist or whatever. (See Category:Redirects from songs for examples.) Hopefully the target mention the subject in some way, but that's not always the case. As long as the target of a redirect is relevant, it does no harm and is potentially useful to someone. I've retargeted the redirect to Take Care where Trust Issues are mentioned. -- KTC (talk) 23:23, 14 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I totally disagree that it does no harm. As someone who's used Wikipedia for years as a non-editor, I can tell you it's very annoying to click on a link because you think there's some notable content behind it and end up on some generic article like a discography. I'm pretty sure laziness is the only reason this redirect was born. Whatever, file this one for the lolz/wtf. ʝungle  jill  23:41, 14 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I can understand your point of view even if I disagree with it. As I said before, if you have a problem with a specific redirect, then you can bring it up at WP:RFD. If you want to bring up the general issue of redirects such as this, then I'm sure you will get a lively discussion at Requests for comment. On the point of laziness, not really as the editor who changed it to a redirect in the first place is an administrator who could just as easily had deleted it. -- KTC (talk) 23:51, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

I was going to give you an award...
...but the award creating thingy wouldn't work. :( So I'll just say, I admire the way you've taken on a controversial topic because you care. (Re: the Egyptian Revolution article) Whether you continue to try and influence what happens on that page or not, you've made your opinion known, and that's awesome! Don't let them get you down, OK? Tlqk56 (talk) 22:44, 14 June 2012 (UTC)


 * It's even worse! I've since discovered that every single protest that started on 2011 (that's a lot) is still listed as "ongoing." 2011 Egyptian revolution is over 190,000 bytes, and just today someone added information about the current presidential elections. Timeline of the 2011 Egyptian revolution has events added to it daily. Didn't anyone notice it's 2012? Wait, they did, the obvious response is to change the article's title. Why don't we create Timeline of the United States, Timeline of Wikipedia and Timeline of consciousness, too? Thanks, I appreciate it! ʝungle  jill  22:54, 14 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh shit. There's a timeline of the United States??! ʝungle  jill  22:55, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Don't forget that the War of 1812 lasted until 1815.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  23:44, 14 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Sometimes ranting is necessary to retain sanity. Feel free. :) Tlqk56 (talk) 05:38, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

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&#160; Too late, figured out that I should place wp: before the search query. Might be a useful thing to add to that huge welcome message. Thanks. :) ʝungle  jill  05:14, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

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 * I will give this one to my cat. She likes to polish kitties' bumholes. ʝungle  jill  12:40, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Copy Edit Request as Per Invitation
Hi, Jill. The page is Nayef bin Abdul-Aziz Al Saud. There are issues with command of English throughout the article, but it is currently being actively edited as the subject died very recently. If you want to copy edit it quietly go ahead, but I wouldn't be too noisy about it as at least one of the regular editors of that article is kinda touchy. Guyovski (talk) 22:28, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmm. It doesn't seem to have any glaring mistakes. I think 97% of Wikipedia articles are at about the same level of writing as this article. In my opinion, it doesn't merit a template; when there are so few mistakes, one should just correct them rather than put a template. Also, please note that foreign language sources are perfectly acceptable where no English counterpart exists. I think you misunderstood me; I only suggested to copyedit because I thought it was important to you.  ʝungle  jill  22:44, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, Jill. To my untrained eyes the English of that article is quite poor, but I'll accept what you say on the basis of your greater experience, and no doubt greater level of skill at copy editing. Thanks for having a look and giving me your honest assessment. (And if I was supposed to post all this on my talk page and put just a trackback on yours, I apologize.) Guyovski (talk) 00:27, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * It's fine! I prefer to keep conversation in one place, so it's good that you posted here. ʝungle  jill  07:00, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

HEEEEEELP!!!
Hi, Jill. I'm having a major problem at Talk:Deaths in 2012 with User:Joseph A. Spadaro. The edit history for that talk page shows that things are rapidly going to hell. His user talk page suggests things have gone to hell before when he's been involved. I admit I haven't managed to defuse the conflict as well as I'd like to and maybe have even contributed to it, but all I want is for it to stop. The whole thing makes my ass sore and bores the heck out of me. Please help. Guyovski (talk) 16:47, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I don't understand what the issue is, or what you think I could do about it. ʝungle  jill  17:54, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't agree with that sentence but can read between the lines. Have a nice life. I shan't bother you again. :) Guyovski (talk) 20:19, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey there. If you can read between the lines, what it says there is this: "I don't understand what the issue is" means you sent me a long talk page, I scanned it and could not locate what the issue is. "I don't understand what I could help with" means if you have a personal problem with an editor, I cannot intervene on your behalf if no violation of policy has occurred; if violation has occurred, then there are people on Wikipedia who deal specifically with that. Lastly, "sorry" means no offense is meant, and I am still being responsive and helpful. I was actually offended by your comment; I think it was flippant and completely inappropriate, considering that I've offered to help you several times. I make the effort to treat other editors in a thoughtful and considerate manner, and I suggest that you return the favor. ʝungle  jill  23:52, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Cristian Tello
Hi. Okay, I'll follow their guidance. Thanks for the tips. I believe the information is all there. Greetings. Marcospace (talk) 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Hasheem Thabeet
Just FYI: Hasheem Thabeet's father is deceased; that fact is even mentioned in the reference that was already at the end of that paragraph. I don't mind that the article is semi-protected; frankly, I prefer it that way. But I just thought you should know that the IP's edit was not vandalism. Zagal e jo^^^ 20:10, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright, cool. That's logical enough - that edit came from a vandal who occasionally makes good faith edits to sports pages. I went through so many unnoticed vandalizing edits s/he made, that I didn't bother to verify that one (I verified some others.) Either way, whether his parents are alive is trivia, right? Thanks for letting me know! ʝungle  jill  20:27, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem. I just thought it would be good to know, in case someone makes a similar edit in the future. I don't think the fact is essential info, so I don't plan to restore it myself. Zagal e jo^^^ 23:16, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Are you interested?
Hi, JungleJill! I have an article I've been expanding over the last few weeks, and the truth is I don't know if I've created something good or a mess. (It has 52 refs, for example.) I think I'm about done info wise, but before I spend much more time on it, I'd love to have someone, or a couple of someones, just read it and give me some input. If you'd be willing to look at it I'd be really grateful, but if you're not interested, I understand. Time is limited. Do you know someone who might look at it for me? It's User:Tlqk56/John R Tunis. Thanks either way. Tlqk56 (talk) 15:59, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey! Sure I can take a look. Do you want me to make edits, give specific suggestions, or just general impressions? I can't suggest any specific editor, but you can go on the Wikipedia IRC channel and ask - I've been there a couple of times, and people routinely ask others to take a look at their work. I think wikipedia-en is the most active channel. It's good for a quick response. ʝungle  jill  16:07, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm feeling so ambivalent about the page right now I'm sure what I need. :) I guess give it a once over and see if you think it's worth doing a close copy edit. Then feel free, if it is. Otherwise, any feedback would be great. I was thinking of taking it to DYK, but I've only had one experience there before, and I'm a little leery. In the meantime I'll look at IRC. Thanks. Tlqk56 (talk) 16:14, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, I will combine the three types of feedback. Expect it in a couple of hours. It looks well proper at a half glace. ʝungle  jill  17:02, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Your comment at User talk:Guyovski
Just to let you know, I removed this comment from User talk:Guyovski, which you said an admin could do. I'm not sure continuing a dispute with an indef blocked user who shows not comprehension of how to work collaboratively is helpful. Thanks. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 16:57, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * By the way, that was supposed to be a polite comment, rather than a warning. I hope it came across that way. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 16:58, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I did kind of want him to read it, but that's fine. It's probably a perversion. Your notification came across as you intended. :) ʝungle  jill  17:00, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * As an aside, I saw that comment. I almost objected to it, then I decided it was clever. However, while clever, it was subtle, and I don't think the current situation calls for subtlety. (BTW, nice work at the Tea House)-- SPhilbrick  (Talk)  18:07, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Well that's the last time I give admins explicit permission to delete my comment... the page is a total mudfest and mine was the best one! :P ʝungle  jill  01:33, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Article review
Believe me, there's no rush. You're doing me a favor, after all, I can be patient. :) Tlqk56 (talk) 23:57, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

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You alive?
Seems like you haven't edited for over a month, anything happened? This message is not to pressure you or anything, just wondering. Have been expanding other articles than the Dodo one in the meantime. FunkMonk (talk) 17:22, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Just to get things rolling, I've made a copyedit request again, but I doubt there'll be any takers, so I'll remove it again once or if you return! FunkMonk (talk) 13:14, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

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Re: Your userpage
Hello! I'm sorry I missed your message; I was away for an extended period and wasn't able to be on very much. My password is currently on a CD at my home of record, so I've had to be anonymous for some time now. Shame Wikipedia's gotten so anti-anon these days, as a side note. Anyway, you're quite welcome to copy the layout—I copied it from Misza13, after all. :p  Oc  t  ane   [ improve me? ] 16.09.12 2121 (UTC)

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The Tea Leaf - Issue Seven
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The Tea Leaf - Issue Seven (special Birthday recap)


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Latin American 10,000 Challenge invite
Hi. The WikiProject Latin America/The 10,000 Challenge ‎ has recently started, based on the UK/Ireland The 10,000 Challenge and WikiProject Africa/The 10,000 Challenge. The idea is not to record every minor edit, but to create a momentum to motivate editors to produce good content improvements and creations and inspire people to work on more countries than they might otherwise work on. There's also the possibility of establishing smaller country or regional challenges for places like Brazil, Mexico, Peru and Argentina etc, much like The 1000 Challenge (Nordic). For this to really work we need diversity and exciting content and editors from a broad range of countries regularly contributing. At some stage we hope to run some contests to benefit Latin American content, a destubathon perhaps, aimed at reducing the stub count would be a good place to start, based on the current WikiProject Africa/The Africa Destubathon. If you would like to see this happening for Latin America, and see potential in this attracting more interest and editors for the country/countries you work on please sign up and being contributing to the challenge! This is a way we can target every country of Latin America, and steadily vastly improve the encyclopedia. We need numbers to make this work so consider signing up as a participant!♦ -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 00:38, 27 October 2016 (UTC)