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your A3 on User talk:Tæ
Hi, Junior Jumper, I declined your speedy deletion request on User talk:Tæ. A3 is a criterion that only applies to articles in Wikipedia's main space; it doesn't apply to things in the user or user talk namespace. Also, it does explicitly exclude redirects. That's more or less a technicality, though; is there a particular reason you would like that talk page to be deleted? Generally speaking, it's better to leave such redirects in place, but if there's a decent reason to delete it, then it can be done. Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 18:12, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
 * @Writ Keeper Please delete the page.--Junior Jumper (talk) 16:08, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Why though? Generally, deletions of user talk pages are not done, due to the loss in records of communications with the user. Redirects from a move obviously don't have important communication history, so that's not a dealbreaker, but deleting that redirect will leave old links to that talkpage (e.g. links in a signature) redlinked. So, I'm not outright refusing, but I do think it's important to have some understanding why you want that page deleted. (If it's a private reason, then feel free to email me.) Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 16:17, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

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User: Junior Jumper,Please also change the Parliament tool diagram of Maharashtra from 289 to 288 seats diagram .Nahtrav (talk)
 * Thank you for the important information but KumarVenati has done it already.--Junior Jumper (talk) 06:52, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Oh, Ok thanks Nahtrav (talk)

Assam Legislative Assembly
Assam Legislative Assembly Why Are You Changing It Two Mlas Have Been Died For Reference You Can See At 2020 elections in India KumarVenati (talk) 16:05, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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- SUN EYE 1  07:15, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

December 2020
Hello, I'm Doug Weller. I noticed that you recently removed content from Sangh Parivar without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 10:13, 29 December 2020 (UTC)


 * I have provided an adequate edit summary. How someone had said Bajrang Dal a militant group? They are not terrorists. Junior Jumper (talk) 16:40, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Sangh Parivar, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use your sandbox for that. Thank you. Doug Weller talk 16:57, 29 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Read Bajrang Dal -it says "The Bajrang Dal is a religious militant organisation that forms the youth wing of the Vishva Hindu Parishad (VHP)." "The US Central Intelligence Agency has classified VHP and Bajrang Dal as religious militant organizations". It doesn't call them terrorists, I don't know where you got that idea. If you want to change how its described, do it at the article about Bajrang Dal - but use the talk page to get consensus as otherwise someone will revert you for removing sourced text. Doug Weller  talk 17:01, 29 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Now will foreign agencies decide the definition of our organizations? A "militant" is someone who is engaged in a war or who acts aggressively for their cause. But Bajrang Dal isn't a militant group. It is a religious youth group. And don't give me the link of BBC news. They have no credibility in our India. They are treated like bastards in our country. --Junior Jumper (talk) 18:15, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Looks like you won't be very happy here then. Everyone needs to follow our policies and guidelines. We consider the BBC generally reliable. Read Reliable sources/Perennial sources. I'm not going to argue this with you.  Doug Weller  talk 18:51, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * How dare you to call Bajrang Dal a militant organisation? Are you Indian to decide so? Do you know what is Bajrang Dal. What is its ideology? You are a foreigner and you don't have any right to call our country's organisation a militant organisation. They have not killed anyone like Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Taliban. --Junior Jumper (talk) 04:20, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Blocked for persistent tendentious editing
I have blocked you indefinitely for persistent tendentious editing and lack of interest in our policies, as shown above in your responses to Doug Weller. This is an international encyclopedia in English; if you wish to edit according to which sources do or do not have what you call "credibility in our India", this is not the place for you. Everybody in the world can edit here as long as they follow reliable sources, so your notion that "foreigners" don't have any right to edit Indian subjects is completely mistaken. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice the text, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Bishonen &#124; tålk 09:55, 30 December 2020 (UTC).


 * It's regrettable that it only occurred to you to follow our rules, or to speak civilly, after being blocked. When Doug Weller, an experienced user and admin, merely explained to you that "everyone needs to follow our policies and guidelines", you chose to jump down his throat: "How dare you?" Speaking to people like that, and then becoming suddenly soft-spoken after a block, does not impress. Bishonen &#124; tålk 13:51, 30 December 2020 (UTC).
 * Sorry for my rude behavior. I apologize 🙏🙏. I promise I will not repeat it in future. --Junior Jumper (talk) 13:56, 30 December 2020 (UTC)


 * I think you need to accept a topic ban from Indian politics. Doug Weller  talk 20:28, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

I will not edit the page Bajrang Dal in future. Sorry for my rude language. --Junior Jumper (talk) 04:06, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Apology accepted, but I think it needs to be from Indian politics in general, not just one article. Doug Weller  talk 08:29, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Conditions for an unblock
Junior Jumper, you can read about topic bans and what they mean here. Please read it carefully. Do you accept an indefinite topic ban from Indian politics in exchange for your block? Such a topic ban can be appealed to the community, at WP:AN, in not less than six months. If you do accept that and promise to abide by it, I will unblock you. If you don't, I won't. Bishonen &#124; tålk 10:00, 31 December 2020 (UTC).
 * But please give me permission to add parliamentary diagrams. --Junior Jumper (talk) 12:37, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * What exactly are parliamentary diagrams? Please link to an example where you added that. Bishonen &#124; tålk 13:20, 31 December 2020 (UTC).
 * See here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ahmednagar_Municipal_Corporation&diff=997136925
 * I see... so you not only added that image, but also created it. You would be allowed to continue creating images on Commons when topic banned, or for that matter when blocked, as now, since you're only blocked (and would only be topic banned) on the English Wikipedia. As for adding this type of image to Wikipedia articles, I'll ping do you guys think this would be an OK exception to a T-ban from Indian politics? I suppose there's no scope for any POV editing in adding these self-created diagrams, or is there? If it's a purely helpful thing, I'd be glad to make it an exception. Bishonen &#124; tålk 17:48, 31 December 2020 (UTC).
 * The sort of diagrams they are making are indeed helpful, and the potential for pov-pushing is minimal; the only potential avenue for trouble is if the numbers are fudged, and with municipal council elections, checking is often tricky. If we're willing to extend that amount of good faith, then I'd say go for it; I'm not terribly familiar with this user, so I'd prefer not to take a call on that. Vanamonde (Talk) 21:11, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Please take the final decision on my block. --Junior Jumper (talk) 06:41, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll extend good faith and support this. Doug Weller  talk 07:48, 1 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Sure, Junior Jumper. Sorry for the delay, but I'm in a different timezone. I do believe that you'd add these helpful diagrams in good faith. If there should be any doubt about the numbers, then please don't make a diagram for that particular article. And please just make the diagrams and add them; you're not supposed to enter into any discussion, or, God forbid, edit warring. Thank you for improving articles with these diagrams. You are now subject to an indefinite topic ban from Indian politics, as logged here, with an exception for the diagrams, and you have been unblocked. I want to add that if you're considering appealing the ban at WP:AN, which you can do in no less than six months, then I strongly advise you to edit in other areas in the meantime. It's important to be able to show in an appeal that you have been editing constructively. People who merely go away for the duration and then appeal don't have much chance of making a good impression. And note that constructive editing at other Wikimedia projects, where you are not topic banned, will also count in your favour. Happy new year. Bishonen &#124; tålk 09:51, 1 January 2021 (UTC).
 * P.S. And thank you very much, Vanamonde and Doug Weller. Bishonen &#124; tålk 10:08, 1 January 2021 (UTC).


 * Thanks 🙏🏻 --Junior Jumper (talk) 16:17, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Junior Jumper is violating topic ban right after coming off from a failed topic ban appeal where he was taught enough about his similar topic ban violation. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 09:36, 29 September 2021 (UTC)


 * I was banned from editing the pages of Indian politics. It means that I was supposed to not make any edit in the mainspace of the article. I respect your opinion. But see I have only added the images. I have not made even any single edit in the mainspace. And I think by adding the images I have not violated the rules. In my opinion this should not a big issue as I have only enhanced the quality of the article by adding a single image.--Junior Jumper (talk) 09:40, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Abhishek0831996, technically, adding images other than parliamentary diagrams does violate the topic ban. Images in general were not excepted, just the diagrams. That said, I can't make myself care about additions of completely non-controversial images such as these portraits. De minimis non curat lex. But make sure this is not the thin edge of the wedge, JJ. Bishonen &#124; tålk 10:53, 29 September 2021 (UTC).

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