User talk:Juniorbaby

que tal pelao ,, ya llegaste, q te parecio la reunion hoy ,, ah ? la cosa esta dura ,,, ah no ,,, mejor me CALLO ,,, porq tu decides asi ,, que tal tu dices estar "bien " con dios ,, y tratadome como lo haces sabes algo ? YO mas q nadie se comoe stas con dios ,, pues mal ,, lo se por tu trato.

aja estas ahi ,,, o no ,, huyes como un cobarde .... me duele q mi novio ademas me calle

tu quiers ser como esos hombres d huaches ,,, ah>>>>>>>> ,,,,,,

The World of Narue                 DearS                                             casle in the sky grave of the fireflies             Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind                I Can Hear the Sea Whisper of the Heart               Shiki-Jitsu

```````````````````````````````````````````````` esta es una gran historia ,, LA SUPER WIHISTORIA habia una vez un nino tan tan rockero ,,,,, que llego a una iglesia ,,, por obra imaginate de quien???? pues de FIRME aja entonces este chinito era gordo, bajito, y tenia una gran talento tocaba musiquita,,, de repente ,,,, al legar el , se encontro que en esta d iglesia las pelaas estaban super deserperadas por tener un novio,,, y este hobrecillotontin empezo a ver luz blanca en una figura negra ,,,, esta nina es llamada MAGUI ,,, se enamorao porfundamente de el gordito pero el gordito al parecer no poseia los mismo sentimientos hacia ella ,, porque su corazon esta destinado para una mujer cuyo EL FIRME habia preparado, pero la vida de la mujer en cuestion es otra historia aparte ,, sigua en sintonia ,, y la leeera ,, bueno procediendo ,,,,,,,, el gordito iba a la casa de margui ,, conocio a sus futuros suegros ,, cunados etc comia ,, y comia y comia en esta casa ya q esa era la unica motivacion que tenia para ir a visitarla bueno el gordito ,,, parecia un chicle al lado de margui ,,, en la iglesia se sentabanjunticos y los dos se guardaban los puestos mutuamente ,,, ( TAN LINDOS !!!!!) RESULTO QUE ESTE GORDITO ESTABA ECHIZADO ,,,, SIp !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 estaba hechizado ,, esta mujer llamada margui, lo tenia embrujado ,, el nunca habia esperimentado el oscuro lado de la brujeria y con ella lo vivio ,,, esta historia es para dejar una clara ensenanza ,,,,, LA BRUJERIA PUEDE VOVLVER MAS IDIOTA AL MAN QUE LO NORMAL resulto q esta gordito casi pero casi se casaa con margui,,,,,, ( seria una gran tragedia si lo ubiera hecho ,, ya q el FIRME lotenia destiando a vivir feliz con la mujer misteriso que tiene otra historia ) en fin amigos agentes, este hombre de un momento a otro momento !!!!desperto!!!!!!!! de esa horrible pesadilla de esa cueva oscura y fria ,, echo fuera todo demonio y espiritus ,, y fue !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! L  I  B    R   E !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Y desde ese entonces este hombre gordito a aprendido lo bueno de la vida ,,,, con otra historia de la muejr minsteriosa,,, es mas este hombre comprendio que todo lo puede con el FIRME ,, y el esta firme co el FIRME  ahora lo quiere buscar mas,  quiera aber mas de el ,,,,, porq el sabe q sin el ,,,, es nada ,, y puede perder lo mas valioso de su vida ,, LA PRESENCIA DE DIOS amigos agentes ,,e staremos en sintonia yy estaremos escribiendo mas aventras de wihistoria ,,,,,,,, hasta pronto y no se pierdan ningun capitulo de esta maravillosa wihistoria ,, que es mejor q la dimension desconocida

1. "Christmas in Hollis" - The A.K.A.'s - 3:40 2. "Forget December" - Something Corporate - 3:13 3. "December is For Cynics" - The Matches - 3:31 4. "I Won't Be Home For Christmas" - Blink-182 - 3:16 5. "Feed The World (Do They Know It's Christmas)" - Far featuring Chino Moreno - 3:46 6. "Yule Shoot Your Eye Out" - Fall Out Boy - 3:41 7. "Christmas Night Of The Zombies" - MxPx - 2:24 8. "X12 Days of XXXMASX" - From First to Last - 3:34 9. "I'll Be Home For Christmas" - Matchbook Romance - 2:23 10. "Ex-Miss" - New Found Glory - 3:36 11. "Happy Xmas (War is Over)" - Acceptance - 4:06 12. "Christmas Time Is Here" - Gatsby's American Dream - 2:21 13. "Sleigh Bells and Wine" - Jason Gleason of Further Seems Forever - 3:17 14. "The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year" - InMemory - 2:22 15. "This Time Of Year" - The Mighty Mighty Bosstones - 2:22 16. "I Saw Daddy Kissing Santa Clause" - Standstill - 2:57 17. "A Cradle In Bethlehem" - The Beautiful Mistake - 3:50 18. "Icicles" - Punchline - 3:24 19. "Mookie's Last Christmas" - Saosin - 2:46 20. "It Came Upon A Midnight Clear" - The Red West - 5:19

1. Dave Melillo – All I Want For Christmas 2. Tyler Read – New Years Day 3. The Format – Holly Jolly Christmas 4. It Dies Today – Feliz Navidad 5. Spitalfield – It’s Cold Out There 6. Meg & Dia – Joey Had A Smoke 7. Down To Earth Approach - Stay 8. Daphne Loves Derby – Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas 9. Hot Rod Circuit – Happy Xmas (War is Over) 10. June – A Wonderful Christmas Time 11. A Change of Pace – Christmas On The Coast 12. The Finals – Last Christmas 13. Far-Less - I'll Be Home For Christmas 14. MC Lars - Gary The Green Nosed Reindeer 15. Umbrellas - O' Holy Night 16. Haste the Day – O’ Come Emanuel 17. Rediscover – Not Giving In 18. Brandston – Christmas In Ohio 19. Action Action - Father Christmas 20. Brazil - Cities Made Of Snow 21. Flee the Seen – Blue Christmas 22. Gone By Daylight – Tell Me Is It Christmas

UMBRELLA

You have my heart And we'll never be worlds apart May be in magazines But you'll still be my star Baby cause in the dark You can't see shiny cars And that's when you need me there With you I'll always share Because

[Chorus] When the sun shines, we’ll shine together Told you I'll be here forever Said I'll always be your friend Took an oath I'ma stick it out till the end Now it's raining more than ever But we'll still have each other You can stand under my umbrella You can stand under my umbrella (Ella ella ella eh eh eh) Under my umbrella (Ella ella ella eh eh eh) Under my umbrella (Ella ella ella eh eh eh) Under my umbrella (Ella ella eh eh eh eh)

These fancy things, will never come in between You're part of my entity, here for Infinity When the war has took it's part When the world has dealt it's cards If the hand is hard, together we'll mend your heart Because

You can run into my arms It's okay don't be alarmed Come into me There's no distance in between our love So go on and let the rain pour I'll be all you need and more Because

It's raining Ooh baby it's raining Baby come into me Come into me It's raining Oh baby it's raining

threads of sincerity

Anywhere I go Anywhere my feet take me Your compassion never fails me I've gotten so far away Alone and close to giving up Can I lay down these way not in vain? Your love is the greatest thing I will look ahead to see the truth in this To see the truth in me Closer, closer to you I need it to last more than a moment, these times with you The rhythm skips a beat, and I hold the weight of the world To the touch I ache To the look I seem to be a mistake These mistakes I've made hold me back From the days I should spend with you To be long term and long lasting To overcome the lines and rules There are days where I'm right where I'm supposed to be But mostly I am far away I'm learning to live the way I should I'm learning to love the way you would And today it's been made clear that I've walked so far alone It's easy to want something more I will dive...closer to you...

ROBOTS 3 HUMANS 0

Open that door; I’ll follow you into that space. Where nothing is regretted then forgotten. Where is that grace that carries me out? So strange it’s mine. It’s closed and locked but If you open that door, It won’t be yesterday when, Before the days of collapsing, And I’ll stand through all these lines just to make it back to you.

Can you help me every step of the way? We can bury that battle and bury the cause. There is nothing that I can say because I was wrong this time.

Everyone knows Cause they see the glare in our eyes. Careful now, don’t drown your self in sorrow. I was the one that built that cross and weighed you down and now I’ll carry on till it’s over… and it’s over

and if you open that door, It won’t be yesterday when, Before the days of collapsing, And I’ll stand through all these lines just to make it back to you.

Can you help me every step of the way? We can bury that battle and bury the cause. There is nothing that I can say because I was wrong this time.

i think this is about him coming back to God... "And I’ll stand through all these lines just to make it back to you."

I'm not sure but this line pretty much gives it away that its about God: "I was the one that built that cross and weighed you down"

"Open that door" referees to the "Memphis will be laid to waste"-lyrics where it means to open up and let sin get into your life.

"I’ll follow you into that space. Where nothing is regretted then forgotten."

If we start to sin it's hard to stop again and we go into that place where nothing is regretted (because often we do not even think about our daily sins), but it will never be forgotten by God.

"Where is that grace that carries me out? So strange it’s mine."

So it's amazing that God has given grace and forgiveness to us and for our sins.

"It’s closed and locked but If you open that door, It won’t be yesterday when, Before the days of collapsing, And I’ll stand through all these lines just to make it back to you."

God created us without sin. Sin was locked away, but if we open the door i won't be anymore. And yesterday before the world collapses means before he started committing this ever-returning sin. He would have stood through all the lines (he would have been a good example and not opened the door) but now he is just making it all back to God (he is doing all the wrong things this song is warning about).

Summary: Before he started doing this sin he thought it would be easy not to open the door, but now he has opened it.

"Can you help me every step of the way? We can bury that battle and bury the cause. There is nothing that I can say because I was wrong this time. "

Asking God for help and strength to defeat this sin and get it out of his life. And he admits that opening the door was wrong.

"Everyone knows Cause they see the glare in our eyes. Careful now, don’t drown your self in sorrow. I was the one that built that cross and weighed you down and now I’ll carry on till it’s over… and it’s over"

This part is hard, but i guess he is talking about how it is our fault that Jesus died on the cross - because of all our sins. And yet he (we) will continue sinning tough we know the price.

So all in all the song is about how we all fall into sin, but God has given us grace and mercy, and he got the power to help us trough this life. But even tough we know how much he has suffered for us, we still continue in our own ways.

Brunsnaes has the right idea. Let's face it atheist fans of NJ They're christian, but fuck can they rock.

Now, baring with the aforementionned theory about the lyrics, the title could possibly refer to those who "ignore their daily sins" and become the "robots of society" those who make the world go around the way it does, with greed, hatred and all those other sins.

Cory explans that its about a long relationship and you go through different doors that represent different decisions they make and to take responsibility for them and how crazy life can get if you let it

THE END OF THE EARTH running away from this earth may it pass away in the beautiful flames that it was created for, because when tomorrow fails to come today is just not the same inflamed earth. roses. in this i hope for all i care set it all ablaze

Did anyone say Revelation? All of creation graons for the end and apocolypse. Armageddon is at hand. Let it all pass away in the beautiful flames. Forever.

i don't think it has anything to do with being pissed at all... first of all, that would be very much un-like Josh and his style, and second of all "in this hope" is surely not a very pissed-off thing to say... you know?

Seems that he could care less about the end of the world because he believes that he will move on to a better place and he knows that it is supposed to happen.

it's not about being pissed off, it's about wanting to have nothing to do with the world and preparing for the end of days when Christ returns and destroys the current world we live in.

As christians we should set the world ablaze with the love of God!

wheres the rest of the lyrics. what does he say during the AHHH AHHH AHHH dun dun dun dun part?

Rated 0 (shevanel) during the "AHHH AHHH AHHH dun dun dun dun" part he says ROSES!!!

Right at 1:02 is classic Norma Jean tunage. :D

I heard them described as southern chaos metal the other day and I have to agree.

DOGS CAN GROW BEARDS ALL OVER

welcome to the war; a martyr's challenge. chainsaw brutality tornado strength. king of the diamond; king of the grave. lawlessness stains black on whitewashed tombs. we're too strong to compromise. don't be ashamed of your faith. dear Lord- deliver me from hypocrisy and surcease the scarlet desire. he wears a slick jacket and gold watch. her dishonesty has scarred hands.

Rated 0 yea the devil wears prada trys to keep it with its christian backround, this song is more about like well i think that there saying with all this bad stuff happening there saying god will keep me safe and to let god give them like the idea that some things are satanist like with the gold watch thing its because the devil in the christian faith is know as sometimes he looks good but then he turns out bad and velvet and gold are signs of good things and yea thats what i think it means.

"Welcome to the war" The War Is Between The Christians and the Followers of Antichrist

"A martyrs challenge" So many christians gave there lives to protect christianinty

"Chainsaw brutality. Tornado strength" The Strength of The Antichrist "King of the diamond, king of the grave" The Antichristast will come to us as a daiamond "good leader" and then king of the grave to sending christians to teher death "lawlessness stains black on whitewashed tombs" Lawlessness is used in everything when the antichrist is in power 'we're too strong to compromise. don't be ashamed of your faith"basically its telling you to still have faith and turn from the antichrist

"Dear lord deliver me from hypocrisy and surcrease the scarlet desire", The antichrist will do anything to get him to follow you "He wears a slick jacket and a gold watch/his dishonesty has scarred hands" The antichrist comes in all nice and dressed before he takes teh world by storm

"welcome to the war; a martyr's challenge. chainsaw brutality tornado strength. "

Basically saying" welcome to life; a difficult and constant war against temptation."

"don't be ashamed of your faith. dear Lord- deliver me from hypocrisy and surcease the scarlet desire. he wears a slick jacket and gold watch. "

Again I think he's saying stay steadfast to your faith no matter how pleasing straying towards tempation can seem.

i asked mike hranic himself who wears a slick jacket and he wouldnt tell me. he was like "me" but some of the people in the band were like "isnt it the devil" so thats a possibility. but i also think the antichrist is a good idea. the antichrist comes as comeone wealthy, important, and handsome.

lawlessness stains black on whitewashed tombs. we're too strong to compromise. don't be ashamed of your faith. dear Lord- deliver me from hypocrisy

comes from Matthew 23:25-28 which says:

25 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you clean the outside of the cup and of the dish, but inside they are full of robbery and self-indulgence. 26 You blind Pharisee, first clean the inside of the cup and of the dish, so that the outside of it may become clean also. 27 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs which on the outside appear beautiful, but inside they are full of dead men’s bones and all uncleanness. 28 Even so you too outwardly appear righteous to men, but inwardly you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness”

but im sure if I looked further i could find the rest of the lyrics embeded throughout the book of Matthew.

the song is basically speaking out to all christians letting them know to stand up for their faith and dont be like the pharisees in the scripture above. we cant have God inside and not show it outside. you have to be clean inside that way you can show it outside.

"king of the diamond; king of the grave."-as someone has previously said, god is the king, and he gives you life, and he can take it away.

"he wears a slick jacket and gold watch. her dishonesty has scarred hands."-saying that satan and his temptations look so good with the slick jacket and gold watch, but its too good to be true. "her" is ment to be understood as the sin and temptation...it's dishonest and not what it seems.

i love how all their songs relate to christianity. True believers in christ. And it's unbelievable how many non-believers dont understand the meanings of thier songs...and continue to listen...one day it'll click, and they will either quit listening...or decide to come to god, our "king of diamonds and king of the grave"

hey guys the scarlet desire is satan. theyre saying stop satan from taking controll of me. thats what surcease means its in the raven by edgar allen poe.

the part about the slick jacket is describing satan as the materialistic things humans desire.

STILL FLY

Whats up Fresh, its our turn baby

Gator Boots, with the pimped out Gucci suit Ain't got no job, but I stay sharp Can't pay my rent, cause all my money's spent but thats OK, cause I'm still fly

Gotcha car play gems on shine, said its mine, get a mink, baby girl lets ride You da Numba 1 stunna, and we gonna glide and go straight to the mall, and turn out the inside Prowler Gucci full length leather, Burbons cooler, Coogi sweater twenty inches pop my feather, The Bird man daddy I fly in any weather Alligator seats with the head in the inside Swine on the dash, G-Wagon so Fly Numba 1 don't tangle and twisle when it come to these cars I am that fella The Gucci with the matching interior 3 wheel ride with the tire in the middle Its Fresh and stunna and we like brothers, We shine like paint daddy this our summer

got a quarter tank gas in my new E-class But that's alright cause I'm gon' ride got everything in my moma's name but I'm hood rich da dada dada da

Have you ever seen the crocodile seats in the truck ? Turn around and sit it down and let em' bite ya butt See, the steering wheel is Fendi, dashboard Armani, With Your baby momma playa is where you can find me Pushing through the parking lot on 24's Cadillac Escalade with the chromed out nose With the navigation arrow headed straight to iHop Aunt Jamima really loves me cause my syrup is so hot Put the Caddy up, Start the 3 wheel Benz Hyper white lights, ultra violet lens Sumitomo tires and they gotta be run flat T.V. where the horn go, boy can you top that ? I'ma show you some, rookie press that button The trunk went Eh-eh and all of a sudden 4 15's didn't see no wire's, and then I heard boom from the amplifiers

[breakdown!!]

Let me slide in the Benz with the fished out fins Impala Loud pipes, Drinking that Hen Its the birdy birdy man ill do it again In the Cadillac truck 24's with 10's Looking at my Gucci its about that time 6 bad broads flying in at 9 New Suburban truck with the paintjob showin' Up and down and up they go and Bodies on the Roadster Lexus You know with that hard top beamer Mommy thats your truck I'm coming up the hood been lovely New shoes on the whip and I wake up the bubbley 430 lex with convertible top the rims keep spinning every time I stop I got a superman Benz that I scored from shaq With a old school Caddy with a diamond in the back

Rated 0 the lyrics are wrong. they don't ni***, and they changed

"With the navigation arrow headed straight to your spot Where your wife really love me cause the sex is so hot"

to

"With the navigation arrow headed straight to ihop where your wife will really love me cause my sweater is so hot"

and then they dont say "shit" or "porno" later on. i would guess its because they are a christian band.

but way to just copy the original lyrics from big tymers.

this song, notorious thugs (sksk), and i got your money (say anything) are the best on this album

Rated 0 They say

"With the navigation arrow headed straight to iHop Aunt Jamima really loves me cuz my syrup is so hot"

It makes more sense than the previous post, and you can hear it if you listen for it.

Rated 0 you are wrong.

Rated 0 jk, it might be that.

Rated 0 I don't know what I should edit it to, but it sounds like sweater. Even though syrup is so hot makes more sense. BTW the song by SKSK isn't the best, in my opinion. They sound too much like the original. While TDWP made the song their own. They even have a fucking breakdown in the song. It's great.

Rated 0 maybe its a mixture, "With the navigation arrow heading straight to ihop aunt jemima really loves me cuz my sweater is so hot"

and the reason i think the sksk song is so good is because it sounds like the original (except for the third verse)

Rated 0 haha. an indirect reason to listen to hiphop... lol.

Rated 0 I'ma show you some sh** rookie press that button

No It some LUCKY rookie. Even I heard that.

Rated 0 OKAY I changed the lyrics so calm the fuck down. btw it's not LUCKY rookie it's "I'ma show you some, rookie press that button"

Rated 0 oh heeelllzzz yeah, tdwp takes this song and turns it into a VERY listenable track. catchy for sure

dam TDWP sings this song so much more better

Rated 0 After listening to this I wish TDWP would do a soulja boy remix. LoL.

Rated 0 its also

"new suburban truck with the paint job showing... BLACK and WHITE and RED and GOLD"

and for all u peeps saying its "syrup" it really isnt. you can clearly hear him say "Sweater"



Rated 0 i hear syrup, and syrup makes more sense with the context.

Rated 0 it can be clearly heard as 'syrup'. it may be 'sweater' in the original song from big tymers, but in this version it's 'syrup'. the band changed the lyrics. as diamond lights said, it makes more sense in context. especially considering the previous line about ihop.

Rated 0 This song is crazy xD. I love how they covered a rap song and made it metal.

HTMZ DOOD

And yet, I've been cleansed with the water. A purity no mind can grasp; A purity so cool upon my fingertips. The vision I have seen: This is the action that spawns from the end. For the longest time, I've been watching the world breathe against (spider-webs). What lies here are mountains composed of tombstones. Examine these beautiful faces and keep singing. Keep singing. Will we push bedlam noise to the state of blissfullness? Display her beauty to the people. A purity no mind can grasp

Rated 0 This song is so chilling in some points. It will send shivers up your spine. The screams and the voice together are amazing.

its so weird how they have song names that have nothing to do with the songs....anyways BEST song by dwp i think. the screaming singing thing is haunting esp when they do the keep singing now examine these beautiful faces part

"And yet, I've been cleansed with the water. A purity no mind can grasp; A purity so cool upon my fingertips." This is of course the baptism. The water is used to cleanse during baptism and brings purity to not just the soul, but the persons connection with christ. It is an unimaginable feeling to have such a powerful connection with such a great being. The fact that it says "so cool upon my fingertips" shows that there is physical excitement. Not simply a meaningless ritual that brings false feelings, but something that relaxes and excites.

"The vision I have seen: This is the action that spawns from the end." When you get to heaven, your life long devotion to christ will be repaid. Being baptised is like signing an oath to god, one that is more powerful than any piece of parchment or any legal document.

"What lies here are mountains composed of tombstones. Examine these beautiful faces and keep singing. Keep singing."

Death is stacking up in the world and salvation becomes ever more important. All gods children are beautiful and have meaning in the world. By using their talents and living their lives, they are glorifying and praising god.

"Will we push bedlam noise to the state of blissfullness? Display her beauty to the people."

Bedlam- a scene or state of wild uproar and confusion. Simply, are we going to take the worlds problems without a second thought and make it somethign that should be praised? Her- in the bible they refer to sin as her are we going to glorify sin? today it seems as though we are.

This song is very obviously about baptism and the cleansing feeling that follows your new found redemption.

"And yet, I've been cleansed with the water. A purity no mind can grasp; A purity so cool upon my fingertips." This is of course the baptism. The water is used to cleanse during baptism and brings purity to not just the soul, but the persons connection with christ. It is an unimaginable feeling to have such a powerful connection with such a great being. The fact that it says "so cool upon my fingertips" shows that there is physical excitement. Not simply a meaningless ritual that brings false feelings, but something that relaxes and excites.

"The vision I have seen: This is the action that spawns from the end." When you get to heaven, your life long devotion to christ will be repaid. Being baptised is like signing an oath to god, one that is more powerful than any piece of parchment or any legal document.

"What lies here are mountains composed of tombstones. Examine these beautiful faces and keep singing. Keep singing."

Death is stacking up in the world and salvation becomes ever more important. All gods children are beautiful and have meaning in the world. By using their talents and living their lives, they are glorifying and praising god.

"Will we push bedlam noise to the state of blissfullness? Display her beauty to the people."

Bedlam- a scene or state of wild uproar and confusion. Simply, are we going to take the worlds problems without a second thought and make it somethign that should be praised? Her- in the bible they refer to sin as her are we going to glorify sin? today it seems as though we are.

Rated 0 I like the band of course. Actually Friday I bought there CD Plagues and haven't stopped listening to it yet! I would reccomend this band to anyone. A friend at school told me about them and i heard what they sounded like and got the CD. I like the beggining of this song ecspecially.

Rated 0 wow this song is amazing, like one of the best on the album. i never listened to tdwp until a friend suggested them and gz im so glad he did bc thier music is so powerful. the lyrics are great and the vocalists sing/scream so great, they have everyone thanking god for giving them talent. i love this song and hey john whats your name again especially bc they have so much meaning behind them. speaking of meaning... this song confused me a little bc my first thought when i heard it was baptism but i got in an argument with my brother about what it means...he said something totally diff. i think its cuz he didn't fully listen to the song and i dont understand why none of the titles go with the lyrics...?

Rated 0 so whats up with the bees at the end of the song?

Rated 0 sounds like the purity and righteous look on live after being baptized.His point of view of life has been changed after being saved.god bless

Rated 0 judging from what i know about TDWP and their roots and beliefs this song is definitely about baptism and the clarity and beauty you experience.

"for the longest time...composed of tombstones." i think this part is talking about him, from his point of view, watching the world and their ignorance and obliviousness towards the true beauty in the world.

the rest of the song is about asking themselves or others if they can spread the beauty and message of this purity to others.

well, it's yours you can have it if it means the much to you don't let me stop you don't let me stop you now

stretch me out across the table turn my insides out turn me into someone else someone more like yourself

stretch me out bother not with ties, i promise to lie perfectly still i swear not to scream at my becoming part of the machine

let it be known that this is what you'll get for falling out of line no one wins against the machine so get back in line

are you the man now that you got what you wanted are you the man now that you got it

This song is basically a battle between the singer's sinful, fleshly desires (bloodsucker) and the desires of the Holy Spirit.

"stretch me out across the table turn my insides out turn me into someone else someone more like yourself"

The singer wants to be transformed from his sinful self into someone who reflects God.

"stretch me out bother not with ties, i promise to lie perfectly still i swear not to scream at my becoming part of the machine"

Here, the singer states that he is willing to go through the painful process of letting God destroy his flesh and replace it with something that God has intended.

In the video, I think the doctor in the operating room is symbolic for God, and he seems to be doing some kind of operation on the mouth. I think the cover over the mouth of the people in the video is representative of sin, and the doctor is removing it. You will notice the posters in the video seem to be propoganda saying things like "silence."

i haven't seen the video, but for the meaning that surrendered said, how does "becoming part of the machine" fit? and also the get back in line part, it doesnt make much sense

"well, it's yours you can have it if it means the much to you don't let me stop you don't let me stop you now

stretch me out across the table turn my insides out turn me into someone else someone more like yourself

stretch me out bother not with ties, i promise to lie perfectly still i swear not to scream at my becoming part of the machine"

= i give up, evil wins [whoever this 'evil' might be] the person accepts evil and is asking to be part of it.

and..

"let it be known that this is what you'll get for falling out of line no one wins against the machine so get back in line"

= the evil explaining i ALWAYS win. now FOLLOW ME!

"are you the man now that you got what you wanted are you the man now that you got it"

= could be the person just changed, almost taunting the 'evil' saying like, you happy now? you've won!?'

I think it's talking about conforming. The 'machine' is the conformed world and he's saying we are forced to conform as we grow older. Everyone is the same.

I think the singer is definatly battling something. I think it's between him and God and evil, wanting what he can be content with, but knowing better, and still falling into sinful behavior. But he doesn't nessisarily want to activly change this behavior but he knows he will. He's learning he has to conform to costom one day and to grow he must accept that God and evil must live in the same world (or "machine") and the more he fights it, the harder the transition becomes.

Rated 0 "are you the man now that you got what you wanted are you the man now that you got it "

^then here it shows the things that have happened have changed his life into something he was not acustomed to before this realization

I asked Cody (vocals/guitar) about this a while back and he told me that it was about a friend of theirs that really liked their music and hung out with them alot but got online and started talking real bad about them because they don't have breakdowns and stuff and how they aren't the typical hardcore band. The irony is that the "Are you the man now, that you got what you wanted?" is referring to the closest thing to a breakdown that As Cities Burn has that is currently playing. Cody said that this song was one of the hardest to explain.

due to the last few lines, I'm leaning more towards emotionalpunk's ideas. A machine is cold and unfeeling, so why would use that to symbolize god?

I believe it's about a guy talking to his friend and giving him advice. And he's telling him he shouldn't have sex before getting married. Just read the lyrics, it makes sense. "Well it's yours, you can have it if it means that much." and "Are you the man now that you got what you wanted!? Are you the man now that you got it?!" Welp, that's what I think it's about.

This line is saying that he can do whatever he wants to him until he becomes one of them(one of the machine is surely not meaning God because a machine is a cold thing that's programmed to do things just like nowadays people who accept the norms of others and do everything their friends do)

let it be known that this is what you'll get for falling out of line no one wins against the machine so get back in line

This is kind of ironically saying that noone can espace the low principles of nowadays life so don't even try to fight it.

are you the man now that you got what you wanted are you the man now that you got it

It seems like the song has something to do with sex aswell, it might be about premarital sex I guess. This last line definitely references to it.

Just my 2 cents.

i think this is talking about people taking advantage of people and relating it to creepily holding them against their will.

furthermore i think they are talking about sex and doing it when one person doesn't feel right about it and the other just wants the pleasure.

nothing that kills

watched you float away on a wave of want and misery now i've got to find you i watched you float away on whatever caught your eye now i've got to find you 'cause i've got to keep your head above the water while the current pulls me under

i will hang my life in the space between the noose and your neck i won't let you die just yet

i will love you even when you won't let me and you will kill me by doing nothing but i know it's not you, my dear, i know it's not you i know it's not you, my dear, it's the nothing that kills

i can't save you control is something out of mine no, i can't save you control is something out of my control

i can't save you but i will love you no, i can't save you but i will love you i'd like to think that this is love lost in second chances without end this is romance

I can really relate to this song. It's about someone he loves that is selrf destructive, perhaps physically or emotionally. Because of his great love for the person, he tries to save her and her self-destruction kilkls him inside. Eventually he realizes that he can't save her, but instead of abandoning her, he promises to continue loving her, regardless of his own misery. And this misery, these "second chances without end" are what the world calls "romance".

I like to think of as cities burn, Not with god relations. But real relations, With actual people. It's a lot more powerful to me, And hits my heart more. I like this song, Especially the last few words.

Rated 0 It's about unrequited love. The beloved's eye is caught by shallow and meaningless things (be it material things, or superficial characteristics of men other than the speaker) and she is caught up in an intense longing for them("I watched you float away on a wave of want and misery/I watched you float away on, whatever caught your eye"). The lover has to find her ("Now I've gotta find you") so he can keep her from being caught up in the things that caught her eye ("I've gotta keep your head above the water"). Drowning and being "pulled under" symbolize falling in love; in trying to keep the beloved from falling in love with meaningless things, the lover falls in love with the beloved ("while the current pulls me under"). In the next line ("I will hang my life and stretch between the noose and your neck, and I won't let you die just yet") the same general idea is put forward, with the lover sacrificing himself in an attempt to save her: he tries to save her by loving her.

The lover continues to love the beloved, even when the beloved does not care ("I will love you even when you won't let me"). At the same time, the lover is devastated by the way the beloved will not reciprocate his love. "The nothing that kills" is the beloved's lack of love for the lover: it is literally nothing, and it kills him. The beloved per se does not kill him ("I know it's not you my dear, I know it's not you"), her lack of recriprocation does.

In the next bit, the lover realizes he cannot save the beloved from her shallow desires("I can't save you"), as he cannot control her will ("control is something out of mine"; "control is something out of my control").

Even though the beloved may not love the lover as he loves her, he continues to love her ("I can't save you, but I will love you"). He loves her in a way that looks past her faults and is willing to forgive completely("lost in second chances without end"). He has found "romance".

To sum it up, "Want and Misery" is the desire for something, especially something that is hard, if not impossible, to attain or acquire. The beloved wants the things that caught her eye, while the lover wants the love of the beloved.

The entire song may be an allegory of God's love for humanity.

Rated 0 "i'd like to think that this is love lost in second chances without end this is romance"

Though this whole song is obviously about a girl the last three lines remind me totally of Gods love. and no matter how many times we mess up, he will always take us back.

Rated 0 When it's an allegory of God's love for us:

"you will kill me by doing nothing"- We hurt God when we care about him only enough to spend 3 minutes in prayer, basically nothing.

I can also see it as someone trying to help a materialistic person.

It think that this song is about a girl who the writer is in love with, and she isn't saved. He shared his faith with her and now she is greatly offended by what he said and doesn't want anything to do with him anymore since she doesn't want to accept grace.

That's what message I get out of the lines "i will love you even when you won't let me," "i can't save you but i will love you," and "Control is something out of my control."

So powerful. I can't wait to get the get the new album!

i think its ultimately about God and us, whether it references to a girl or not. I think it's about his romance with us and his never ending chase for us. he doesn't control us, so eventually we have to decide to accept his love and be pulled out of our despair, but he will never stop pursuing us. and i doubt that not praying 3 minutes a day is way of doing nothing to hurt our love. it probably references to much more destructive things, the kind that kills him inside to see us suffer through. or things we do or don't do for others like love.

I think this song is more about anyone that you care for. It's about having a loved one, whether it's a friend or a family member or a significant other, that is stuck in sin. This person is stuck in trouble and you've tried your hardest to save them from their trouble; you've gone through so much to pull them out of the hole that they've dug for themself.

I think that the song is really about coming to that realization that you can't save anyone else, you can only love them. That no matter how much effort you put into someone you can't keep them from making their own choices; they have to change themselves in the end.

So, while I agree that God does give us a million chances, I don't think that those last lines are refering to God. I think that the writer is coming to the conclusion that giving someone a million chances isn't always loving them the right way. That sometimes you have to let someone pick themselves back up for them to come out right.

And anyways, i think there is a huge difference between love and romance; that's why the writer would LIKE to think that that's love, but it's only romance.

I would almost agree about the song being from God to whomever, but the line "while the current pulls me under" is just too indicitive of a frail and faulty human being struggling to save the person he loves from total self-destruction. So yeah, Christian bands don't always sing about God, that would get very mediocre in terms of lyricism. Oh and I am Christian, I'm just not diluting myself to desperately relate every song lyric to God, that's just immature. Autumn Abandoned and Viva Emily got it exactly, Song of Songs, although this is a site for individual interpretation, I think you're giving the band too much credit. I think you're a little too smart, lol. The writer is only about 20 years old (I'm 20 too, so no old man cracks). It was a great example, though.

I actually think Song of Songs is thoroughly correct. I'm in this EXACT same situation with an individual, and this song reminds me endlessly of it. Amanzing song, and don't patronize the intelligence of a 20 year old. A 20 year old is highly capable of ultimately feeling the effects of unrequited love. All that said, I definitely think this is about a girl, and not a religious message.

Knowing the rest of As Cities Burn's lyrical meanings, and knowing Cody in general, I would definitely say that this song is talking about loving others. (i.e. the Great Commandment)

(by the way, I think all of their songs relate to this in one way or another...think about it...)

I think Viva Emily has it closer than anyone else. (except for the last part about love and romance)

Rated 0 This can be interpreted in two ways, I think. The first thing that struck me is that the song might be written from God's perspective, and he's talking about how he'll love the people that sin (float away on a wave of want and misery) no matter what, even if it's up to them to save themselves. He knows it's not what the people want, and it's simply the temptation to sin that comes naturally (the nothing that kills) that causes us to act this way. However, as a non-religious person, I've interpreted it to be about two people in a relationship, one of them is self-destructive in one way or another, and it's killing the other person to watch them suffer, even though there's nothing they can do. However, the love is still there and the person will happily stay by their side no matter what. In the end, this is really what romance is. "Lost in second chances without end". It's a really powerful song, I love the epic part towards the end, and it's a great way to end the album.

this song shows how a person in love will do anything to keep someone "alive" even if it kills him, and if it DOES kill him, he won't blame you, instead he'll blame it on a technicality: if you do nothing and i die, then it wasn't you, it was the nothing. and this is true romance

also, this could go for a human to human relationship or the God to Man relationship just the same.

Dancing around, into the isles, and into the yard. Yes, we are practicing for war. Walk off stage. Beg for your face. Beg for your fingertips. The request and the response. The emeralds that we all claim, cost nothing lest we walk off stage and then bury it for all to see. These precious diamonds.

"DIALOGUE, WITH A QUESTION MARK"

I reckon Its about how some christians show off how good they are and faithful by dancing and openly showing everyone how we give all to God, when were not. "then bury it for all to see."

also were it says "Yes, we are practicing for war.", i think that basicly means that were ment to be geting ready to face pricipalitys and powers, buy were so distracted with showing off to everyone.

my gosh, thats awesome.......i think thats so true....most christians are showing off how awesome they think they are whe nthey dont even know the politics and disccusions that come with being a christian. I had a science teacher who was an atheist who only talked about how chrisitans dont even know the discussions and dont do their research and they dont allow anyone else have an opinion.....fisrt off i think in a way he was right because some christians are like that but i think the year i had with him, i totally changed his opinion on Christians and now, he respects us...which i think is cool cuz you are going to have to deal with the real world sooner or later and we need to be getting ourselves prepaired for that....always.

Rated 0 I dont think we should show off as christians. But i do believe that Jesus should show off through us. I believe when we do things we should do them as he would such as doing good works in our community and helping people with things because people will see christ in the actions and things that we do. I love this song. And i agree with most of what you guys say.

Rated 0 "But i do believe that Jesus should show off through us."

Like having us make him killer music.

humbling comes before honour thats what it means, i'm sure.

truelysaved stick to what the songs about, this ain't an autobiography. and crocky it's a total contradiction. "bury for all to see." and i think well then brought up a good point without even realizing it. as a christian you should let jesus shine through, but if you are a true follower there is no need to show it off, he'll be seen through you no matter. "bury, for all to see." but i don't think that's what he had in mind when he was writing the song, if you ask me it refers to the members of norma jean.

"THE COMPANY, THE COMFORT, THE GRAVE" Walk backwards and say goodbye to what is right. Understanding what makes this, what makes it, what makes us right. God save this gunslinging generation. "Tell God I will return in the morning." This Christ you preach I know, but who are you? Your hands are tied to blind men, whose hands are tied to blind men. Figure Eights. "This pistol is my ministry"

Rated 0 this song is obviously about people who claim to be of god, but aren't. plus, the fact that when i've seen them play this live they added a sample of a woman screaming "you're not a man of god!" makes it pretty clear.

Rated 0 the line "tell God I will return in the morning" is so sadly fitting for so many people. they know what is right and wrong, and they do wrong, consciously, against God's word, knowing (or at least thinking they know) God will forgive them when they are done. the Bible says "thou shalt not tempt the Lord, thy God" and that is exactly what some people do with their very way of life...heartbreaking...

I definitely agree that this song is aimed at hypocritical Christians; people who claim Christ as their Lord, but don't live it out at all. "your hands are tied to blind men..." is a way of saying it's the blind leading the blind.

Good point on all of those, but what do you make of "This pistol is my ministry" ;)

i think this song takes a progressive stance on christianity.

"Walk backwards and say goodbye to what is right. Understanding what makes this, what makes it, what makes us right."

--I think this has to do with "walking backwards," or subjecting oneself to fundamentalist religion, or perhaps merely walking backwards in your faith. give up on god for something or someone else. we have everything set in stone, yet we don't seek for what is REALLY right, we just assume that we're doing fine at "religion" because that's what we're comfortable with.

"God save this gunslinging generation."

I think Josh is expressing his sadness toward individuals (christians) who feel the need to revert to aggressive ways of trying to "convert" people, though it is through the way we live our lives that is the ultimate witness. A lot of times these people can be self-righteous and uncompassionate toward those who do not share the same beliefs. The "gun" is the bible-thumping, sometimes even hypocritical ways christians force-feed what they believe on other people, when faith should be displayed through daily actions.

"Tell God I will return in the morning."

Again with the hypocritical Christian thing. Let's do whatever we want tonight, then tomorrow we can go sit in the front row at church like the good little christians we are.

"This Christ you preach I know, but who are you? Your hands are tied to blind men, whose hands are tied to blind men."

You cannot find this person's identity in Christ. Josh is commenting on how he knows about this person you speak of, but how can YOU claim to know him? Again like someone above mentioned, "the blind leading the blind" comes from the bible.

"Figure Eights."

not totally sure, but i guess it just goes back to the "walk backwards" thing. Going in circles. Never breaking out in real faith. making figure eights constantly.

"This pistol is my ministry"

going back to the "gun-slinging" thing. too many people's ministry consists of condemnation. "if you're gay you're going to hell." "if you cheated you're going to hell." the phrase is coming from the perspective of the "hypocrite" josh is talking about. when the ministry should be LOVE, and living one's life after the model of jesus.

great great GREAT song. Incredible live. that was only my opinion, it could mean something totally different. it's fun to dissect josh scogin's lyrics though :)

"This Christ you preach I know, but who are you?"

Acts 19:11 God did extraordinary miracles through Paul, 12 so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them. 13 Some Jews who went around driving out evil spirits tried to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who were demon-possessed. They would say, "In the name of Jesus, whom Paul preaches, I command you to come out." 14 Seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, were doing this. 15 (One day) the evil spirit answered them, "Jesus I know, and I know about Paul, but who are you?" 16 Then the man who had the evil spirit jumped on them and overpowered them all. He gave them such a beating that they ran out of the house naked and bleeding.

Obviously this song is about faux Christians, but that's been established. Also, Scogin referenced one of my favorite stories. Double points.

Rated 0 Thanks for that passage WaketoLife. And here is the blind leading the blind reference, Matthew 15:1-20 (NASB), specifically verse 14, which further cements the meaning of the song:

Tradition and Commandment 1Then some Pharisees and scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem and said,

2"Why do Your disciples break the tradition of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat bread."

3And He answered and said to them, "Why do you yourselves transgress the commandment of God for the sake of your tradition?

4"For God said, 'HONOR YOUR FATHER AND MOTHER,' and, 'HE WHO SPEAKS EVIL OF FATHER OR MOTHER IS TO BE PUT TO DEATH.'

5"But you say, 'Whoever says to his father or mother, "Whatever I have that would help you has been given to God,"

6he is not to honor his father or his mother[a].' And by this you invalidated the word of God for the sake of your tradition.

7"You hypocrites, rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you: 8'THIS PEOPLE HONORS ME WITH THEIR LIPS, BUT THEIR HEART IS FAR AWAY FROM ME. 9'BUT IN VAIN DO THEY WORSHIP ME, TEACHING AS DOCTRINES THE PRECEPTS OF MEN.'"

10After Jesus called the crowd to Him, He said to them, "Hear and understand.

11"It is not what enters into the mouth that defiles the man, but what proceeds out of the mouth, this defiles the man."

12Then the disciples came and said to Him, "Do You know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this statement?"

13But He answered and said, "Every plant which My heavenly Father did not plant shall be uprooted.

14"Let them alone; they are blind guides of the blind And if a blind man guides a blind man, both will fall into a pit."

The Heart of Man 15Peter said to Him, "Explain the parable to us."

16Jesus said, "Are you still lacking in understanding also?

17"Do you not understand that everything that goes into the mouth passes into the stomach, and is eliminated?

18"But the things that proceed out of the mouth come from the heart, and those defile the man.

19"For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, slanders.

20"These are the things which defile the man; but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile the man."

Rated 0 "walking backwards saying goodbye to whats right. Understanding what makes this, what makes it, what makes us right."

okay, this in all means that we christians think most of the time that we know whats right, whats makes it right, and we are right. that all non-believers dot know anything. when truely, thats just us being hypocrites, we are all even in this world and no-one is better than neone else.

"God, save this gun-slinging generation."

this basically means that we try to rush everything, that we try to do everything ourseleves and try to get non-believers to be christians without letting God reel them in. we are God's disciples, not God. We are here on his world to witness to people about GOd but not to try to become him and do it all ourseleves, we try to rush into things and put pressure on others to become us. God chose us before we were born and not ALL of us are chosen, and thats just a fact of life that we have to learn, not everyone goes to heaven but we were put on this earth to try and find the chosen people for GOD, not for us.

"'Tell God I will return in the morning.'"

the first thing i noticed about this part of the song was that it was in quotes. so the first thing that came to mind was a christian talking because this whole song is about what christians are trying to be and what we think we are and what we really are. so this verse took me a long time to figure out what it means but then it clicked. A lot of christians are hypocrites. and they tell everyone what they are doing wrong, but dont examine themseleves. this is basically saying that we sin to, but we think that when others sin, they will go to hell, and that what we tell them. its true....but we would go to hell too if we hadent excepted Jesus christ as our savior and we would go to hell if he hadent of shed is blood for all of our sins. we cant do that for anyone, we cant be a savior, but we can help peopple get to know the savior, so they dont have to go to hell and be in the most pain possible.

"This Christ you preach I know, but who are you?"

I still havent figured out what this means. its hard to disifer but others had commented it on about the blind leading the blind

(your hands are tied to blind men, whose hands are tied to blind men")

"figure eights"

this probably means that we just keep going in circles, we keep taking the same path and we are lost, our faith is somehow becoming smaller and smaller and we dont know how we are losing it.

'This pistol is my ministry'"

again the quotes. i think this is about a christian who is finally realizing that the pistol, the pressure he puts on people, is how he ministers to people and is ready to change, because christ wasnt about making people being pressured into becoming a christian that he my friends is the prince of peace and i think we are sinning when we put pressure on people and tell them that they are always wrong and we are always right. I don't think thats right and this song in all is awesome and I LOVE THE CHARIOT and i would reccomend this song for people who are CHristians that think THEY are God in a sense.

proverbs 16:3

Rated 0 I gotta say, I think the recording of this on "Everything is Alive..." is much better than the recording on Unsung. They lost the low end completely, and the high feedback in the "This pistol is my ministry" part; plus the original distorted bass intro is way cool.

"COFFINSPIRE: MULTITUDES, MULTITUDES IN THE VALLEY OF DECISION"

they rest on the coast and the tide is impending

we pull at the motionless and static but the torrent has crowned their heads. it fills their ears and it makes them ill.

they do not struggle at all this will speak of the end, and will not prove false

it is time to move on with the weapons of faith and love synchronize your steps to the sound of guns. this world is damned to hell and it's a revelation. and this is a shallow grave, and it's on the highest ride.

We stand on its highest crest I'll set myself on fire come on, watch me burn. poisoned now enough to kill ten hundred men the harvester's mouth has not gone dry.

Rated 0 I think this is about the prophet Joel's prediction of the destruction of Israel by God. only here, Cory is comparing Israel to all who are unfaithful to God, and will share in the destruction. there is even a scripture reference to Joel 3:13-16 at the end of the song.

If you have doubts about Nj's Christianity this song pretty much clears all doubt.

Rated 0 accessible christianity; they're not shoving jesus--or even joel--down your throat like a *cough*under*cough*oath*cough christian band. The reason they're a indie-metal band and not a christian band. I broke with that trad a long time ago and they make scripture worth thinking about.

DILEMMACHINE: COALITION, HOAX

don't care, we don't care, no one seems to care. The mirror of our mouths endlessly yelling. May I have your attention, attention, attention? This is a quote from our weapons, "This fight is more important than your life."

Destruction is constructive The world waking and wearing. That way that deaf can see a sound in darkness. Certainly we will find hope in desperation. No, destruction is destructive. Everyone stay calm, we're taking over this ship. With our lives, with our heart, and with our hands out to this God forsaken town. Hell will have no mercy.

This song could also be talking about the "war" faced by christians against sin. Sorta like all the pleasures found in sin, like sleeping around, may seem good now. But in the end when you have to pay for it "hell will have no mercy." I think this could all be in reference to when jesus said "what good is it for a man to gain the whole world then forfeit himself, he must deny himself and take up his cross"

What does everyone else think?

Rated 0 This is a quote from our weapons, "This fight is more important than your life."

could this weapon be the Word of God perhaps? saying to us that we are in a constant battle with Satan and his demons to try and take away our (and other Christians) love for Christ?

its talking about how noone cares about serving God. noone listens everyone thinks its gonna be alright and unless youre borned again its not gonna be ok. this fight is more important than your life, it is your life. or if youll have life after death. they're talking about helping people and laying everything out there for what they believe in.

and truly, hell will have no mercy. thats such a powerful and true line.

Rated 0 yes i'am a born again christian. and i see what youre saying. but cory states "i dont care, we dont care, no one seems to care". by that as i said i believe hes saying most people dont care, and at times even the ones that care catch themselves just going through the motions and not serving God to the fullest extent. i catch myself doing that at times.

but if he is asking why dont we care i think its pretty obvious. it takes an effort to serve God and most people don't want to fool with it. its easier to just do your own thing and not worry about serving God. thats why i love the last line so much 'hell will have no mercy'. it seems to me hes trying to get people to realize where they are and that Hell is real and no one wants to go there but you will if you've not given your life to God.

This is much less counter-intuitive if interpreted as socio-critical and less religious. they're supposedly giving their "lives" (literal), "hearts" (emotions), and "hands" (physical work) to a "god forsaken town". this is anti-civilization. the fight for the greater integrity and life of your planet is greater than your life.

MEMPHIS WILL BE LAID TO WASTE waltz around the room with a glaze in your stare. In your tuxedo suit. I will give it a name. Lower you defenses. Lower you casket. Open the door and open your grave. Murder. Now you're doing the waltz with your murder. Mediocrity is the Killer. You find yourself helpless. Christ is not a fasion, fleeting away. Fasion. He laid emralds in her eyes but I'd already tried a bracelet made of gold and scarlet thread around her wrist. Everything was wrong, so we sang sentimental songs. "oh how seldom we belong, but how elegant our kiss!" We painted crooked lines, but we danced in perfect time to a love so much refined we know not what it is until like a dullen wine we pour into a grief we'd know before, but never quite like this. All I know now is regret, it follows like a sillouete along the cobblestone behind me, but has nothing much to say except to innocently ask, its voice delicate as glass "do you see me when we pass?" but I continue on my way.

THis song is soooo good, i just can't get over it. Def.y fave song on the album. The song is obviously aboot love that has been lost, or love that one partner kills the other, and realising how much they loved them. Also, another messag i get out of this song is that the relationship has ended (Murdered) and they are coming down off it. The problem is that these people were trusting in relationships more than in Jesus. Worldly relationships are fleeting and can change as quickly as the latest fashion. The messag is that Christ is not a fashion, He's the same yesterday, today and forever. It encourages us to move on with our lives after relatioships have ended, because 'mediocrity is tha killer' Thats what i reckonm anyway....

i actually thought that 'doing the waltz with your murderer' wasnt literally about someone who killed you, but more about people who live their lifes along side satan, hence - doing the waltz with your murderer...basically to me it sounds like rejecting god and living an immoral 'mediocre' life is like digging your own grave.

Hey, I'm not totally sure what this songs about, I will ask my bro sometime, cuz he talked to the dude a while about his songs and crap. But I think that it refers to the way that people treat their relationships and overall lives with lust. "Doing the waltz with your murderer."............. I think its about just relishing in being directly in sexual impurity. "Mediocrity is the killer.".... maybe the popular belief that your ok as long as you don't actually have intercourse. "Lower your defenses, lower your casket. Open the door, open the grave."...... I take it as advice to people who are being tempted sexually. "She," or "her." refering to the adulterous or the personification of lust, just like in other Noma Jean songs. And the whole regret thing..... obvious. Love so refined, pretty obvious in this context. Others maybe are metaphors to a personal experience. I dunno, thats my guess. Ill try to get back to you after talkin to my bro.

Run, run farmer screaming bloody murder Run, run farmer screaming bloody murder

the daughters of question have been murdered murdered murdered.

Deception is charming i dont think so

i dont think so (x100)

these things harmonize and overthrow. these things will cure but they will tear down and we are not the ones who carry on and we are not the ones who wear the shroud, tear down.

Liar, condescender, words born as bastards. Liar, condescender, words born as bastards. our swords will rest and a course in miracles all hail and killers will rise. Where have we gone wrong?

Understand laced the web. i dont think so

LIARSENIC: CREATING A UNIVERSE OF DISCOURSE"

Rated 0 this song tells us how people have been treated. Girls were killed if they were born with retardation or something along those lines. The song quotes that it all eventually gets better and will be illegal/abandon but it has still affected many of people. More and more people were treated woman and men like this and it got to be soo big (and killers will rise).

Rated 0 i dunno underoathfan111, its a good idea, but i feel another meaning. Im gonna say it concerns todays society, and how people just fall into its deceptive ways.

The daughters of question have been murdered: this seems to me like he's saying we dont question the horrors society warps us into believeing, though we might have at one point in time.

Deception is charming: Like i said before, i think he's expressing the fall into the corruption society brings upon us trough deception, and since the deception is now days based on premiscous senses of pleasure, it is indeed charming.

No, I dont think so: saying in actuality deception aint charming because it leads us down a fucked up pathway.

the entire chours from these things will harmonize- to tear down: I think he's sayin all these problems we face and more importantly the people that expirence these problems will all come together in the end, but when he says tear down i think he's tryin to say like, it'll be a tough journey to achieve that status.

Lair, condesender, words born of bastards: I believe this is more of a personal frustration with these teachings the average american views through the televsion set everyday, and the singer not only is lashing out at them, yet at the same time he's (i think) attempting to throw attention towards those emotions so others might recognize whats happenin.

Our swords will rest and a course of miracles all hail, and killers will rise. Where have we gone wrong: I personally believe that this is a call to all those who understand this message, and an attempt to let them all understand that they should recognize these moral illnesses, and attempt to make a change through peaceful methods (our swords will rest). The change that he hopes for is what i consider to be the "miracles all hail" part. Killers will rise i think is a statement generated towards those who will try to stop us, whether he is talking about actual people, or its a metaphor for sin, im not sure. Finally, where did we go wrong is just a sentence bringing our focus away from the hopeful future and back into what is the still fog filled present.

Im not sure what he means by understand laced the web. Im guessing he's sayin like understand is a person of some sort, and he laced some web of which i am unaware of.

This might be the true interpretation, or not, its just what this sng means to me.

I truthfully feel that this message (if it is what i believe it to be) is a powerful one. Im the singer in a band and i normally focus on worldly corruptions and shit. Not in a christian sense, more like a anti-whores or anti-idols kinda stuff. But this particular message reminds me a Jesse Leach (old KsE) style shit. Its all just a call for a better world, and i think we should strive for it. Good job Cory.

if you really think about it, "words born as bastards" is the only part you need. batards are fatherless men. so if the words are fatherless, they have no root to them, no meaning. so he's basically saying thats something is creating chaos for no reason and we dont know what to do or if we've done something to create the chaos. its probably has to deal with xcrazycorex's belief, from the society and how the media can twist it and how we need to think of a solution quick before time runs out and there is no hope and complete chaos destroys the world. (christ maybe the solution??????) Think about it any comments, you guys can email me at ad_ren1@yahoo.com, i dont usually check back at the responses to my posts. :)

Are the lyrics at the beginning referring to 'The Green Mile', in which an inmate is convicted of murdering two girls. Crazycore's nailed it, for me. I don't think there's a better explanation.

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Okay...this song...if you ask me...is against our philosophies that our world holds on so closely to in comparison to us as Believers.

"Run, run farmer screaming bloody murder! The daughters of question have been murdered, murdered, MURDERED!!!"

The farmer had daughters, and they were murdered, so he ran around screaming, “MY DAUGHTERS ARE DEAD!!! MY DAUGHTERS ARE DEAD!!!” In our world, we as Christians should be, “OUR NATION IS DEAD!!! OUR GENERATION IS DEAD!!!”

"Deception is charming."

Enough said on that subject.

"No, I don't think so!"

To us as redeemed Christians, it’s not so. Deception is a foul odor to us.

"These things will harmonize and overthrow. These things will cure, but they will tear down."

If we look at it from a Christian view:

These philosophies will neutralize the whole argument by making people happy, but then it will take over the whole. Like those who wouldn't believe Creationism...they made a little room for Evolution, and now look at it! They will cure...they will answer our questions and our thirst for information, but they will destroy everything we hold on to.

"We are not the ones who carry on. We are not the ones who wear the shroud. Tear down..."

Doesn't it seem like that? We can't really win...they're stuck in their beliefs...or so we think. But, we're not the deceivers, so with God, we can tear down the walls of the falseness.

"Liar! Condescender! Words born as bastards!"

Satan is the liar and the condescender, or the demeaner of Christ, and, like TRUELYSAVED said, the words born as bastards are the words of Satan, as fatherless can be, nothing but lies and deceit.

"Our swords will rest and a course in miracles all hail!”

We need to put down our weapons and become on the same level as them…we are no better. We’re all sinners…but we’re redeemed. Our lives, the living miracles they are, will shine His Light on them.

“And killers will rise!!!”

Killers by the Sword, or the Word of God (Eph. 6:17), but not real killers. We need to be active in God’s Word and attacking the falseness.

“Where have we gone wrong???”

What did we as a race do to deserve this mess? It’s called…the deception of Adam.

“Understanding laced the web!”

The web of the Spider, Satan, is covered in that stench of the need of information and understanding. That’s where evolution came from…because Darwin wanted to say that he knew how it happened.

That's about it if you ask me. Colossians 2:8 says, "Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deciet, according the the traditions of men, according to the basic patterns of this world, AND NOT ACCORDING TO CHRIST."

Look out for false philosophy.

Ok, I've read all the comments above, but it seems obvious to me that “Understanding laced the web!” actually means men's thirst for understanding (and all the scientific progression) made everything more confusing and complicated (laced the web)

Darwin co-created the theory. A theory is not a hunch yet hold no truth - by definition a theory is the explanation of phenomenon and observations.

Like I said, Darwin co-created the theory - and like I said a theory holds no truth. Darwin did not claim "the he knew how it happened."

i dont think they are saying bastard as a slang word bastard,as truelysaved sayed, means fatherless so they are probably saying the words have no meaning and are rootless.

it is all done wrong or so it appears it is all done right eternal eyes i am pressing on no matter how it looks it is all planned out understatement lay your hands on your mouth negativity i don't want to hear it your cursed tongue this is greater than you this is greater than me flawless increase time and it will all fall into place i don't care about surrounding, i don't care about wicked words i don't care about surroundings, i don't care about desire i don't care because it is a waste of time i don't care because it is a waste of my time don't sell out it all comes to these words a battlefield inside my mind shall i take her or leave her i will set my sites north i will not feed it doubt i will not be cursed by doubt or a concubine wife

"THE HUMAN FACE DEVINE"

also, not the connections between 'Face:Face' and this song... cool eh? I will not be cursed by doubt or a concubine wife. When i read it in the booklet, the only thing i could say was 'crap!'

i think this song is his mental battle with his desire to meet a girl and fall in love, but he constantly feels compelled to "wait for hte one" that God will show to him. "it all comes to these words a battlefield inside my mind shall i take her or leave her i will set my sites north i will not feed it doubt i will not be cursed by doubt or a concubine wife"

This is his decision to stop trying to force the pieces together in his life and make things happen, and to just trust the Lord, whether he can see hte plan for his life or not.

ooh... i like your new perspective TwEakKR, though i acn't help thinking that the lust personification has a place in this... maybe only in "Face:Face"

i love the band break in here.. or whatever it's not that big of a band break but in the end where he stops singing ... eh screaming haha anyways fucking rocks. this song live is freaking awesome, they jammed the shit out

norma is so tight - those drums at the end are so simple, and yet amazing. and i'm so glad you like norma jean, mmmAFI, i hope you listen to the lyrics thoroughly and are somewhat moved by them. (profanity, by the way, is VERY appropriate for a page like this)

Well first off i agree with the guy that says this song is about how Scogin is trying to find a girl himself but he's decided that he must let god show him the girl.

I think if you look at the lyrics from the first half of the song it's a bit easier to tell what he means.

it is all done wrong or so it appears it is all done right


 * This is pretty obvious, he's reffering to our creation. At first he is talking about how people think our emotions our flaws of god. But by the: "or so it appears" lyric, he's rethinking this and deciding that maybe God knew all along how to mold out minds and bodies. Thus the lyric: "it is all done right"

i am pressing on no matter how it looks it is all planned out understatement


 * Scogin's talking about his love life and how no matter how grim it might look to him, he's pressing on because it's all planned out by god. The word: "understatement" is used really well here, because he is sudgesting that even though he said it's all planned out by god, that is an understatement in comparison to what God can see in his future.


 * the next few lines are simply more musings of this topic and him saying that he doesn't care about our surroundings or emotions, that everything will end up the same way god intended it to, no matter what.*

Norma Jean's lyrics about purity are so inspiring...they are what came to mind in my moments of temptation (they are few and far between for me, lol).

I believe it's a song from a Christian perspective regarding sexual purity.

the best couple of lines i dont care cuz its a waste of time. its all planned out. UNDERSTATEMENT!!! its sooooooo soooo sooo true.. something that is soo hard and so easy at the same time is to just let God lead your life and show you where to go, cuz its all planned out!!! amazing

Return to sender,Carried straight from the womb to the grave Your eyes have been paled to emptiness All thing have been carved out by the unceasing haunts of (this)the Great Manipulator It's the end of the Earth or something like that Sit down let's break out the shotguns,Were going to town. You've given us user friendly grenades So just what are you trying to say?

What Are You Trying To Say

GRAND SCENE FOR A COLOR FILM"

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Rated 0 does anyone else hear that incubus song "meglomaniac" in this?

oh my God! i love Norma Jean,total inspiration to my music,but...i can´t believe,i hear Incubus from the first time i listen that track!!!,good apreciation xoshinobiox!.i´m fertil,from Uruguay,little country here in South America

Full lyrics:

SIT DOWN! Return to sender, I've fallen off the hint of suggestion. Unlearning the strange devices of the world. It's the end of the earth or something like it, like it. The great universal coma has arrived.

We are holding our hands towards the sun. Sit down, come on sit down. Let's break out the shotguns, we're going to town. Return to sender, carried straight from the womb to the grave. Your eyes have been paled to emptiness. All things have been carved out by the unceasing haunts of this, the Great Manipulator!

The holding of our hands upwards and around the eclipsing sun has become empty and automatic. Sit down, sit down, come on sit down. Let's break out the shotguns, we're going to town. Let's break out the shotguns, we're going to town! You've given us user friendly grenades! Just what are you trying to say? Just what are you trying to say? Just what are you trying to say? Just what are you trying to say? Just what are you trying to say? Just what are you trying to say? Just what are you trying to say? Just what are you trying to say? Just what are you trying to say?

The holding of our hands upwards and around the eclipsing sun has become empty and automatic. Sit down, sit down, come on sit down.

The holding of our hands upwards and around the eclipsing sun has become empty and automatic. Sit down, sit down, come on sit down.

Let's break out the shotguns, we're going to town!

Thanks to Myles, I knew there was more to it than that. I did have a few nit-picks I wanted to clear up so here are the lyrics to my interpretation (nothing huge, just two things in the first paragraph):

SIT DOWN! Return to sender, I've fallen off the hint of suggestion. Unlearning strange devices of the world. Is it the end of the earth or something like it, like it? The great universal coma has arrived.

We are holding our hands towards the sun. Sit down, come on sit down. Let's break out the shotguns, we're going to town. Return to sender, carried straight from the womb to the grave. Your eyes have been paled to emptiness. All things have been carved out by the unceasing haunts of this, the Great Manipulator!

The holding of our hands upwards and around the eclipsing sun has become empty and automatic. Sit down, sit down, come on sit down. Let's break out the shotguns, we're going to town. Let's break out the shotguns, we're going to town! You've given us user friendly grenades! Just what are you trying to say? Just what are you trying to say? Just what are you trying to say? Just what are you trying to say? Just what are you trying to say? Just what are you trying to say? Just what are you trying to say? Just what are you trying to say? Just what are you trying to say?

The holding of our hands upwards and around the eclipsing sun has become empty and automatic. Sit down, sit down, come on sit down.

The holding of our hands upwards and around the eclipsing sun has become empty and automatic. Sit down, sit down, come on sit down.

Let's break out the shotguns, we're going to town!

A lot of us who believe in Christ[God] (the Great Manipulator) have been living our lives too passively.

The Great Manipulator is challenging us to actually use what we know to win the spiritual war of these last days on earth.

Anyways, thats what it means. It's definitely a great intro song to Redeemer.

no offense but I disagree, I think Satan is a more likely candidate for the term 'the great manipulator.' God doesn't manipulate people, and the term 'Great manipulator' seems to have a negative connontation in this song. I think it means that we live in the enemys territory, and we are giving in almost- letting the worship of god become 'empty and automatic' when we should sit down and realise that we are in a war and its time to 'break out the shotguns' and start fighting

Rated 0 i used to have trouble finding christian meaning in a lot of norma jean songs personally, but ive found quite a few now. i agree with sekhemnet on this one, its awesome. its obviously something that meant a lot to cory or whoever wrote it. they say heaps that most of this album was full of personal stuff

Rated 0 daveysa and numbheart,i hope you both know that norma jeans name means "patterns of God's grace and mercy".thats kinda why they chose the name.yes they realized it was the same as marilyn monroes real name but they picked it because of the meaning.so if you are saying God is bs,you must think they are bs too

Rated 0 daveysa and numbheart... i believe ur perfectly entitled to your opinion but u must know alot of NJ fans will be christians and tbh its not the most repectful way to tell people that... just i think more respect should be given to ppl especially seeing as 90% of the visitors here will chritians searcing for meanings in their songs

P.S. amazing song ;)

UNBELIEVERS- read this

The group started off in Atlanta, Georgia, in 1997 as a high school garage band. "When we started none of us were even Christians," admitted Daniel. Founding band members Scottie and Daniel attended a church youth meeting with some school friends and their lives and the band's direction were forever changed. Said Daniel, "We were introduced to God, we just totally felt that that was what we were supposed to do, like God was drawing us into a relationship with him." The following week the remaining members attended church and had the same experience. As they grew as Christians they discovered Christian music. "We figured that as we were all Christians that we ought to be a Christian band," continued Daniel.

Rated 0 God = biggest load of non-bs in the world. Daveysa needs to go to church! =]

Astounding! Let us consider our current state A string of events and I tied the first knot You´re an anchor and I won't be drug down Because no matter what

Burn this to ashes Ashes and framework

A dying man needs to die, as a tired man needs to sleep And there comes a time when it is wrong, as well as useless, to resist

Burn this to ashes Ashes and framework

You are forgiven But this just does not mean that what was done is okay Trust is destroyed for you and me What's done is done and this will never be right The sun has gone dry So we can sleep forever

You can be free to turn your back I'm not holding a gun

Trust has been destroyed for you and me What's done is done and this will never be right

The sun has gone dry So we can sleep forever

Burn this to ashes Ashes and framework

Trust has been destroyed for you and me What's done is done and this will never be right

The sun has gone dry So we can sleep forever

And I've been so bitter towards you And I've been so bitter

I've been so bitter towards you

AMNESTY PLEASE"

I'm pretty sure this song has to do with two people (or more) that can't put the past behind them. One side feels they forgive the other but their trust will never be regained. I kind of get the vibe that this song isn't just about one persons feelings. It's more of reflections of what both sides are feeling.

Or maybe people that know they will be forgiven so they use Jesus and do watever they do anyways.

its definately got a two sides aspect. and Jesus would not engage in an argument with a person. it would more be a person argueing with God. "holding a gun" "been so bitter towards you"; lines like that suggest some type of argument/battle. so i would have to agree with systembranden

Rated 0 it has to do with how GOD can forgive you. ut you shouldnt abuse that. its not right just doing something bad only cause you know youll be forgiven. "You are forgiven But this just does not mean that what was done is okay"

i think the part where it says Burn this to ashes Ashes to framework means that maybe what u did was wrong and you know that it was wrong so you like kinda want to forget about it, like "burning it to ashes"...but what you did says something about you..like "your framework"..kinda like who you are..your frame

i can also add that its about a dying man that has done great sins in his life and is now panicking and trying to resist his encounter with God. Even though he has been for given and shall not fear God, there won't be the same trust as before between them.

I think that its showing he got so caught up into someone he started to neglect god somewhat. and that the part where it looks like an arguement is a flash back talking about the person. but then towards the end it moves to the present showing that god forgives him and that he shouldn't have negelcted god because god would never neglect him back.. anyone agree?

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I was with a girl I truly thought I would spend the rest of my life with. After three years, she ended it in a pretty cruel way. Among other things, I was left without a home, a job, money and friends. It was the worst time of my life, but this song got me through it.

I assume there is some biblical implication within the song, but for me it is a confession, and a declaration to move on.

"Astounding! Let us consider our current state A string of events and I tied the first knot You´re an anchor and I won't be drug down"

This is an acknowledgment of responsibility, and ultimately the consequence of the choices I or she did or did not make.

"Burn this to ashes Ashes and Framework"

To me, this is what I had left after all was said and done. On one hand, I had nothing to work with, but in contrast, I was given a clean slate. This has become the most powerful lyric in my life.

"You are forgiven But this just does not mean that what was done is okay Trust is destroyed for you and me What's done is done and this will never be right"

This is slightly more obvious. I had summoned the courage (perhaps through this very song) to forgive her for what she had done, but I was aware that I would never forget the pain. I needed her to know that as well.

"And I've been so bitter towards you"

I see this as being an ironic statement, or at least one filled with regret. I felt similar after forgiving her.

I know this is very personal, but I figured it was a worthwhile interpretation of the song.

The contract of black halos. Go, run your mouth, your open mouth. Run your open mouth. Close your open mouth.

"Long live the falling love." Sun blacks out, sky blacks out. Don't plan on standing under the falling sky. It's so pointless to fall. Please believe what you see, And what you hear.

Your names are indications in red blood and I'm choking on my tongue.

ABSENTIMENTAL: STREET CLAM"

To me at first read this looks like its about Gossip. There may be more to it..but its late and i dont want to think really hard about it.

anyone know what the pictures have to do with the lyrics??? just asking. didnt know where else to ask.

Rated 0 'Please believe what you see, And what you hear.'

I'm guessing this is about faith and how people only believe in what they see.

Well since NJ is all into the whole Christian religion thing, I'm going to go with ACEXVI on this one, or atleast on the lines of what their saying. I think more specificly this song is about agnostic people and their beliefs on faith. They do not believe that god doesnt exist because he hasn't been not yet proven, but nor do they believe he does exist because he hasn't been proven

Its about the end the black halo being satin and how god will shut him down for te last time "Go, run your mouth, your open mouth. Run your open mouth. Close your open mouth." the end of all things is clearly stated here "Sun blacks out, sky blacks out."

I built this destruction with my own hands and with my hands I will help pull it down. And like the worker bees, silenced by that swarm I'll make my new home.

String me up, just leave me here and I'll find my way back home i swear. These are not the plans i made. This is not the life i wanted.

I don't care. Pull it down. With broken bones and vital organs far from functional, I am ruined. Pull me down and I'll find my way back home I swear. What you can't pull from me, pull from yourself. We know what we have to do. We're not going anywhere. With blood stained glasses string straight at me and just careless. With that lidless gaze I am ruined. I need to be saved. Pick me up and I'll find my way back home i swear.

AND THERE WILL BE A SWARM OF HORNETS"

I think this song is in reference to someone who has strayed far from where he thought he was going, and as he looks at the life that he's currently leading he realizes that it's nothing more than destruction and ruin. He says that he'll destroy the life he's created, and he'll start again.

The second paragraph: "String me up, just leave me here and I'll find my way back home i swear. These are not the plans i made. This is not the life i wanted" is stating that where he is is still far from where he's been, but if given the chance, he'll still be able to make it back to his home, or back to his life before it was ruined

The third paragraph has a much more negative aspect on his situation, he looks at himself as "ruined" from the mistakes he's made, but he'll still try to go home.

"What you cant pull from me, pull from yourself". I think what he's saying here is that he doesn't have enough left of himself to be used, and that whatever or whoever was in his life of destruction should just go and tear themselves apart the way they did to him.

"With blood stained glasses string straight at me and just careless. With that lidless gaze I am ruined. I need to be saved." The "blood stained glasses" could be symbolism for any number of things, but I take it as something that he sees that was ruined from his destructive life, and by seeing it he notices that he needs to be saved from where he is, not just run from it.

(Verse 1) Somewhere between the end And the point that we began There's a fire burning brightly That's found it's way to town

Chorus When the feeling's gone Shine on, shine on And onto something new It's long I know I do I will remember you Shine on, shine on And let the others see You got your victory Will you remember me?

(Verse 2) I was with you in the valley And up upon that hill So I take just one more step infront of you For I am with you still, you still And I will...

Can you see my hands are open? I'm waiting just ahead And d'ya think of me at all now?

Shine on, Shine on, Shine, oh shine on Won't you, won't you shine

Chorus

Somewhere between the end And the point where we began.

algun punto justo ahi, entre el principio y el fin

tu estas aqui

shalom shalom, eres mi rey jesus tu infinita luz brilla en mi aun shalom shalom mi principe de paz tu hermosa gloria por siempre brillara