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This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --Jurajlip 17:40, 4 April 2015 (UTC)I am very new to Wikipedia and did not realize the breach of the regulations. My reason for including the resume was that the other users and reviewers should see the qualifications of an author. I have now consulted the guidelines and would like to delete the inappropriate material if that is still posiible. Otherwise I agree with the deletion in the hope that I would be able to write a new user page. --Jurajlip 17:40, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

I have already deleted the resume-like material--Jurajlip 17:56, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
 * This seemed a silly deletion notice to me, frankly, and you now have plenty of edits so could put them back, imo. See User:Duncan.Hull for another way to get this info on the page. Its great to have a specialist on board! I hope you will look at some more general articles, on pigments etc, where I expect there is much to be done. You don't seem to have had the general welcome template, so I will add it here. Johnbod (talk) 15:44, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

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Hi, thank you for pointing these mistakes out to me. I have corrected them both and will be more careful in the future.

Your nice edits at Heironymus Bosch
Recently, I took a look at the sibling page for Bosch on his paintings and a separate gallery for his drawings. The current articles containing the galleries of Bosch paintings appear to be missing all of the dates for the various painting at List of paintings by Hieronymus Bosch and I was wondering if you might possibly be able to date any of them as a start to organizing things. Is this something which might be possible for you when time allows? Fountains-of-Paris (talk) 17:05, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind words and for pointing the lack of this data to me. I can incorporate the results of the most recent investigation of all paintings by Bosch regarding the dating of the artworks by the Bosch Research and Conservation Project. I can do that in the coming weeks.--Jurajlip 07:45, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

I have filled in almost all the dates for the paintings with few exceptions and added the relevant references. --Jurajlip 20:02, 26 May 2016 (UTC)


 * That looks very good for the paintings and a useful improvement. For some reason the drawing of Bosch were all collected by someone else into a different file and I'm not sure the easiest way to find the dates for the drawings, possibly you have an idea for this: Hieronymus Bosch drawings. Cheers. Fountains-of-Paris (talk) 20:36, 26 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you. To my knowledge there are no dates for the drawings as dating of paper is much more difficult than dating of wood which can be done by dendrochronology. In the book describing the most recent research there are no dates given for drawings. I will let you know if I find any information on this. Best. --Jurajlip 07:50, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * That is very promising for the drawings. I noticed that there are still some of the paintings which have not been dated, and perhaps they can be filled in with the dates from the Stephan Fischer book on Bosch from Taschen. The same dates, I am assuming can then be brought into the main article for Hieronymous Bosch in order to take care of the missing dates in the main article for many of the paintings being displayed there. Fountains-of-Paris (talk) 14:32, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I agree with your suggestions. I have put dates on all paintings included in the books I own. For the remaining paintings I have no dates and I do not own the book by Fischer. Do you have it? Could you get the dates from the book by Fischer and fill them in? I have put the dates for all paintings on the main page for Hieronymus Bosch with proper references.


 * Your idea is a very good one and I'll try to get the Fischer dates in sometime during the summer. I have started to organize the lists of the Paintings into chronological historical order, though I noticed that the article was originally introducing thematic keys instead which is far less useful. It would be more useful to have them in three Bosch historical periods (1) before 1500, (2) Middle Period, and (3) late Period after 1530. It would then be possible for me to consider the re-write of the main article for Bosch in order for it to correspond more closely to Bosch's three major periods. Separately, and only if its interesting, I notice your chemistry background and have seen that Fischer dates some Bosch differently than The Metropolitan Museum in New York which owns one work by Bosch. Do you have an opinion about the early dating by the Museum from their website here . Fischer attributes it as very late and only attributable to the school of Bosch. Cheers. Fountains-of-Paris (talk) 20:18, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * OK, I agree. The most recent dendrochronological dating (2016) for this painting is 1470-80 which agrees with the Metropolitan Museum. best regards--Jurajlip 13:32, 1 June 2016 (UTC )
 * Those were a useful set of edits you made on Bosch during June. Though what of your edit here, and the claim in the link I provided above about a dating before 1485, which the current article on Wikipedia denies about Bosch. Should it be updated? Cheers. Fountains-of-Paris (talk) 18:48, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think this should be updated as there are works by Bosch dated from 1470 onward in the most recent book by the Bosch Conservation and Research Project, which I consider the most reliable authority. I would suggest that you do the correction as the author.
 * Your last edits in July make it look like its a Wikibreak for you. If you return soon possibly you might be able to look at Hieronymus Bosch drawings which does not have the benefit of the dating of drawings as you were able to usefully do for his paintings. It is the five hundred year commemoration for Bosch now and perhaps you could add the dates at some time in the future as you did for the paintings. Cheers. Fountains-of-Paris (talk) 16:33, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
 * No, it is not a wikibreak I just finished the edit on Bosch and have to look for a new project on Wiki edits. As far as I know there are no dates for the drawings because they are done on paper and there is no possibility of dendrochronological dating. The paintings are done on wood panels so they can be dated by the tree rings found on the wood. In any case if I find anything new on Bosch or his drawings I will add it to the pages on Wiki.
 * Thanks for the note. There are a number of the drawings that are attributed as preliminary drawings to the oil masterpieces, and they can be effectively noted as coming before the date associated with the oil version masterpiece. Can you think about adding the dates for the drawings known to be preliminary studies for the dated oil paintings that came after them? Cheers. Fountains-of-Paris (talk) 16:23, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I will look into this possibility. But without any other scientific data you could only write that the drawing must have been done before or around the time of the painting.