User talk:Jusdafax/Archive 7

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Talkback
--I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a message on my talk page. @ 22:23, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Exopolitics
I agree with your post of Dec 5, 2010, where you advocated that Exopolitics should have it's own page, and not point to the work and viewpoint of only Michael Salla. This is not a slight against Michael who I know quite well and consider a friend. Michael might have been one of the origional founders of the exopolitics movement, along with Alfred Webre... but others such as Stephen Bassett and Paola Harris jumped into the mix very shortly after. It is now a world wide movement with 25+ nations having Exopolitics webpages. There is not one school of thought for how Exopolitics should move forward. It is more like a growing political ideaology, ie: like a new party along the lines of democratic social liberalism with UFO reality as a fundamental given. It is also very much about saving our planet. This is a subject matter that is not about one person. Mikejbird (talk) 16:31, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm not vandalising Wikipedia
I just came to Wikipedia, and before I logged in, I got a message to my IP address warning me to stop vandalising WP.

I have not the slightest idea what's going on, because none of the edits in question are anything to do with me. In fact in the six years I've been here, I have never done anything that could remotely be called vandalism. Most of what I do, in fact, is of the wikignome variety.

So I'm puzzled, especially since I'm not particularly technologically savvy.

Can you enlighten me, by any chance? I'll watch here in case you can give me an answer.

Thanks! Awien (talk) 22:46, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm puzzled too. Might be someone is pranking you. Did the message say what article was vandalized, and say who sent it?  In any case I'm also puzzled how it is you are asking me about this matter, as I am not an admin and am semi-inactive of late. Regardless, best wishes!  Jus  da  fax   05:35, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm asking you because you (apparently?) gave 173.212.85.30 their most recent "cut it out or get blocked" warning, even though it was a couple of years ago. Since IP numbers change, could I have inherited one that was / is being used by this vandal? In any case, it occurs to me that I might also check into that question with the company. Thanks for your response. Awien (talk) 12:34, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for your support at my RfA - and for your congratulations. I will do my best to live up to people's confidence in me. Yngvadottir (talk) 18:18, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

ITNC
can you mark the summit of the americans and the guinea-bssau coup as "ready"?Lihaas (talk) 09:49, 14 April 2012 (UTC)


 * It's tempting but I don't think we have consensus yet. Jus  da  fax   10:40, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Cap-Haïtien
I'm confused. you said I vandilised Cap-Haïtien. I did not, and visted that page for the first time, today, when I was told I had a new message from you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.40.224.37 (talk) 04:58, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
 * It appears we are talking about something that happened two years ago. Could be I was wrong.... I do note others warned you about the article besides myself, resulting in a block which has since expired. Bottom line: I'm confused too, but since so much time has gone by the point is probably moot. My best wishes, Jus  da  fax   06:49, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

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Sgt. Pepper straw poll
There is currently a straw poll taking place here. Your input would be appreciated. ~ GabeMc  (talk 00:59, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

"The/the" request for formal mediation
FYI, I have requested formal mediation here to decide the "The/the" issue, hopefully once and for all. Feel free to add your name there if you so wish. ~ GabeMc  (talk 00:16, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * My humble thanks, I truly appreciate the sentiment. I couldn't help but notice Jimbo's comments on your talk page regarding an unrelated matter. I think he brilliantly points out how this project of ours must proceed, with all of us observing The Golden Rule. Again, with gratitude, Jus  da  fax   07:28, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

New LBH Edits
Hello Jusdafax - I've noticed that you have shown interest in creating an accurate and well-written article on Battle of the Little Bighorn from a significant number of thoughtful edits. I'm dropping by now to ask if you'd take a look at a really long addition to the article here Battle_of_the_Little_Bighorn. I have some serious concerns about the presence of this addition to an already very long article that still needs very substantial editing and sourcing. I am not canvassing, and I could easily rv or rewrite on the bases of length, relevance, writing, and suspect sourcing (History Channel?). It is a good faith edit, as was the earlier "Role of Non-Combatants that I cut down by 75% to what seemed to be strictly relevant to the article. But I think some other eyes need to look it over - I'm also posting this on User:Parkwells's page. Any help would be appreciated. regards, Sensei48 (talk) 04:45, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I just decided to be bold and reverted it, after noticing that this editor has been with us two days and was rejected at WP:Afc. Thanks for your message and kindly expressed regard; I share your concerns. I have notified the editor and also posted a message on the article talk page, where I invite comments. If I may be frank, while I have taken steps not to discourage what appears to be a promising new editor, I am surprised by the level of skill this editor displays after two days of editing. Jus  da  fax   07:22, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, JDF - knew I could count on you, and I completely agree with your welcoming message to the new user. I'll move on over to LBH Talk for specific comments. regards, Sensei48 (talk) 07:31, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

That RFC
Hi JusdaFax, reading through YRC's RFC you seem to be the only person explicitly accusing him of anti-semitism. Now that maybe that I've missed a particular bit of the evidence, in which case I'd be obliged if you could add a diff to your statement. Or it may be that you are jumping to conclusions re the JDL and/or British Politician edits. I can see how one could interpret a couple of his edits that way, but they could equally be sourced from the POV of a very Orthodox strict religious definition of Jewishness. In any event may I suggest that you double check whatever brought you to that view and either support it with a dif or strike it. Ta  Ϣere Spiel  Chequers  15:32, 6 August 2012 (UTC) As far as I can see a fast trip to Arbcom is called for at this stage, not another block or another mentorship. Let's let the big boys decide. But I cheerfully admit to fearing to go through the Arbcom process as a filer or involved party. From what I can see of the process on the filing page, you have to write up an up to 500 word request with diffs which is just the start of the required typing.. An interesting page I had never contemplated before, and one I find isn't conducive to a generalized complaint about an editor; seems it has to be between two or more editors with proof you tried to mediate the dispute elsewhere etc., and for the most part I have avoided YRC for the past 3 years. So that leaves me rooting for a braver soul than I (or just one with more time and patience than I usually have) to take this upstairs. That would be those who certified this Rfc, so efforts are being made to trash or otherwise neutralize them. What an ugly mess it is, to be sure. Jus da  fax   07:57, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi WSC. Thanks very much for pointing this out. This ANI thread illustrates some disturbing quotes from YRC aka Off2riorob, and illustrates what I see as a long-term issue with Jewish people that a number of editors also agree is of concern. The thread was archived, but I see that several of Rob's defenders in the thread have since expressed that they have had enough of him at the Rfc. I find it difficult to rummage through Rob's edits since I find his style offensive, and hope you agree that this thread contains enough of Rob's quotes and diffs to illustrate my own concerns. Having made my point, I don't intend to mention it again at the Rfc. I'll add the above link to my comment in the Rfc as a support, yet this is just a small part of this editor's package of issues that have lead to his 19 blocks to date. Thanks again.  Jus  da  fax   20:10, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi Jusdafax, I'm not disputing 90% of what I've read about him in that RFC. But anti-semitism is a serious charge and one that infuriates people if it is incorrectly used. When I posted on your page earlier I suspected that rather than being Anti-Semitic he might be either a religious fundamentalist or ultra-zionist who rejected some secular Jews as not Jewish because of things like marrying out. Now I'm less sure how to describe his POV. But I can understand why some people who are carefully not calling him Anti-Semitic don't want him editing articles on Jewish people.  Ϣere Spiel  Chequers  23:06, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
for the vote of confidence. I wasn't sure if anyone would think it was half as strong as it was wordy. And I could be wrong. . . after years of studying the ways of the wiki, I still gauge things inaccurately more often than I'd like. Rivertorch (talk) 10:08, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * You and me both... I was leaning away from Arbcom after your well-worded statement, when it wound up there anyway, and perhaps this is just as well. I just hope "that what should be, shall be," to quote Tolkien's Galadriel. Good fortunes to you! Jus  da  fax   05:25, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Re: Youreallycan
Your arbcom statement about Youreallycan was very good. I'm curious if you have noticed the same thing I have over the years. Sometimes I get the sense that I'm talking to two different people using one account. Have you ever had that impression? Viriditas (talk) 03:32, 13 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your kind words. I must admit to choosing my phrasing to Arbcom with considerable care. I and others have noted a Good Rob/Bad Rob effect, but I hasten to add I do not believe it to be attributable to either a mental condition or two actual different people. I just think he is a lot moodier than most people. And after three years of drama, I think the community at large has had enough. Jus  da  fax   05:06, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply. Personally, I'm not convinced.  Nobody spells "etiquette" as "etiket".  These kind of typos appear a bit too forced, too deliberate. Half the time his spelling is perfect, and the other half of the time, it's like he's typing in a straitjacket.  It's one thing to have atrocious spelling.  We've seen that with several users, such as User:Slatersteven.  When you look at his typos, they don't seem deliberate but entirely random.  I still think there is something strange going on with this YRC account, as if two different people are using it. Viriditas (talk) 06:29, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Now that you mention it, I have noticed that aspect. My problem is, I get such a bad feeling from "Rob" that I have spent most of the last 3 years avoiding him. This does merit some thought, however. The other thing I seem to have noticed is his politics, which seem to me to have a severe slant, which I find interesting in a self-proclaimed "POV warrior." Jus  da  fax   12:44, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you! I appreciate the positive feedback, and salute you in turn; good fortunes to you always! Jus  da  fax   19:15, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

The Olive Branch: A Dispute Resolution Newsletter (Issue #1)
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--The Olive Branch 19:11, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

your signature
Interesting to see you have "chosen" to change the color of your signature: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news&curid=485213&diff=511255697&oldid=511219722 μηδείς (talk) 18:33, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah what was that all about? That's a new one, at least!

LBH Major Problems
Hi JDF - I know you're as concerned as I about accuracy on the GAC & LBH articles, and we have a problem on LBH. There's a new editor interpolating questionable edits. One on shell casings is OK probably but is sourced from Battlefield Detectives, a junky History Channel show full of speculation and inference. But the big problem is this edit [] which avers that someone named Pennewell survived the last stand. I'm going to RV it politely now, but the source looks legit and I think this may prove to be a problem. regards, Sensei48 (talk) 09:27, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Agree. TV shows present a particular challenge to sourcing LBH related Wiki-articles. I'll look into this further but I share your concerns and I support your revert. Jus  da  fax   16:21, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for reminding me. ♠♥♣Shaun9876♠♥♣ Talk Email 00:40, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! Jus  da  fax   00:42, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
No apologies needed! I've seen some of the stuff at ITN before. I think people personalise their opposes too much. I took the opportunity to comment on the talk page. Cheers again. Leaky Caldron  19:12, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
— Mr. Stradivarius  (have a chat) 09:07, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

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A beer for you!

 * Many thanks Gabe! Man, those years went by like nothing. Jus  da  fax   02:18, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

quick check.
Hi Jusdafax, I believe you have recently editted while logged out. If it is you, can you please update the edit with your signature, and I will oversight the IP address. Also, I would have preferred to email you about this, it may be worth turning on your email. Worm TT( talk ) 08:56, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Quite right, and I will do, though the email will take a few days. I should never edit after a very long day at work, I suppose. Thanks! Jus  da  fax   14:43, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
 * All sorted for you. Worm TT( talk ) 14:51, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and also many thanks for your progressive outlook at the page in question. I have added an additional comment there, virtually a plea, for a wider discussion amongst the participants. Jus  da  fax   15:10, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

HiLo48
While working on an RfC/U about User:HiLo48, I noticed that you commented here that you wished to be a participant. The draft RfC/U is here: User:Skyring/RFCU_evidence if you would still like to participate. --Surturz (talk) 03:27, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not surprised by this notice, and will look in at the Rfc/U. Thanks for the heads-up. Jus  da  fax   04:03, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think the latter part of this opinion is justified, or constructive. It comes across as a clever snipe, exactly the kind of thing you accuse HiLo (with some justification) of doing. If you're holding out for a Wikipedia full of AGF and mutual goodwill (an endpoint I'd love to see myself) you might like to reconsider whether this comes across as too snarky by half. Kim Dent-Brown   (Talk)  21:37, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I have taken the liberty of disagreeing with your view on the page in question. My best to you and if you observe the day, Happy Thanksgiving! Jus  da  fax   21:42, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Jusdafax I am getting gradually more disillusioned with Wikipedia and our inability to enforce rules even after they are repeatedly flouted. I'm not sure what is happening here. Perhaps users who are not affected by disruption can just out-vote the ones who are without any concern for the wider consequences to the project? There are also users which are far cleverer, subtle and more disruptive than HiLo who are looking in here. They appear to conform to the letter if not the spirit of the rules and must feel invulnerable. It worries me if we can't moderate HiLo what chance have we with these other people? This is all the more bizarre due to some administrators taking an aggressive attitude to some editors and not others. We need to ensure that editors are treated equally across the board. I really don't think there are safeguards to ensure this is happening. --Andromedean (talk) 09:23, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Request comment
Your input would be appreciated here. GabeMc (talk 03:40, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

ITN/C IP 86.40.106.60
Hi,

I would appreciate your feedback regarding this IP user. The user has made numerous disruptive comments at the Sir Patrick Moore nomination of ITN/C. I've been caught in the trap and reacted, so I can't really start an RFC or other process. Maybe I should just ignore the user. Anyway, I'm reaching out to you because of your involvement in the ongoing HiLo48 saga.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#.5BPosted_to_ticker.5D_Death_of_Sir_Patrick_Moore

Thanks,

--IP98 (talk) 19:31, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

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Discussion about Newyorkbrad's closure of Beatles RfC
Hello. This is to let you know that there is currently a discussion at User talk:Mr. Stradivarius about Newyorkbrad's closure of the RfC about whether to use upper-case "The" or lowercase "the" in mid-sentence in articles about (t/T)he Beatles. You are receiving this message because you were involved in the mediation case that led up to the RfC. Some editors have expressed dissatisfaction with the caveat in Newyorkbrad's close that "[t]he suggestion that editors should try to structure sentences to avoid unnecessary mid-sentence use of "the Beatles" remains a valid one", and the discussion is focused on how that caveat is affecting the editing decisions in Beatles-related articles. There is also the opportunity to discuss other aspects of the close should the need arise. Please see the points at the top of the discussion thread and leave a comment if you think it is appropriate. Best regards — Mr. Stradivarius  (have a chat) 13:43, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Franklomax
Just a quick FYI to clarify something. I saw in user_talk:Franklomax, you had mentioned "Since this is your first block ..."; I just wanted to mention that if you check Special:Log/block, it will show this is actually the user's third block. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 16:50, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Silly me, I should have checked. I don't think I would have been as kind had I known this guy isn't learning anything. Jus  da  fax   20:44, 26 December 2012 (UTC)