User talk:Just-bourgeois

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AfD nomination of Yozzasport
I have nominated Yozzasport, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Yozzasport. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 15:04, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

YozzaSport
If you can, sure, but please read WP:COI first, as it appears that you are in some way affiliated with the company. ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 15:23, 12 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I would suggest you place a request at the Article Requests page. That way, another editor who does not have a COI may create a page. However, I believe the main issue here is the notability of your company, along with that of Demon Tweeks, your competitor, whose article is also being considered for deletion. ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 17:13, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

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Y0z2a (talk) 20:09, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Eric, I have had my account blocked by someone this evening, so am unable to edit the page to make it any more sensible than it is already. Demon Tweeks are the largest motorsports parts retail companies in Europe - if not the world, YozzaSport are one of the largest producers and sellers of Clio components. I simply wanted to list our business with our competitors. I read the guidelines, and made a pretty impartial submission. I replied courteously to you and read all of the information that you pointed out to me, and now I have had my account locked? I have been a member of Wikipedia for ages, and haven't been unruly. It seems like rather a strong reaction to a relatively straight forward presentation of information. Thanks. /ah Y0z2a (talk) 20:09, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Your account was blocked because the name is too similar to the name of the business you wrote about. Also, please note that if you were here to "list our business with our competitors.", you're in the wrong place. We don't list all businesses in a specific field, we're an encyclopedia. (Spam has some helpful information) - Mgm|(talk) 21:59, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

MacGyverMagic, can I request an unblock to change my username then please. I have read the article about how not to be a spammer, and still don't think that I have done much wrong - we maintain clio cup race cars and renaultsport vehicles that are included in the encyclopedia. Thank you. Y0z2a (talk) 13:56, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Y0z2a (talk) 13:59, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Y0z2a (talk) 13:24, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Blocking
For what my opinion is worth, I would have to say that he should be unblocked. Yes, the creation of the Yozzasport article probably was COI, but if he is able to prove that the company is notable, I'm not sure why that should inherently be a problem, especially if the article isn't an advertisement. ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 15:00, 16 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok, I'm going to unblock, Y0z2a, so that you have a chance to participate in the deletion discussion before it is over. It is up to you to find as many in-depth, independent, secondary sources about Yozzasport as you can, hopefully online ones that other editors can look at.  You mention magazine articles that mention Yozzasport -- that's probably not going to cut it, because that sounds like those sources don't discuss Yozzasport in depth.  I do think you would be wise to make the username change request you previously indicated you would make but if you would rather not, I'm not making it a condition of unblocking, given that the connection is weak and you are now aware of the COI rules and are agreeing to abide by them in good faith.  I do need you to understand that the problem here isn't, exactly, that you are misleading people, it's that we can't trust companies to post dispassionate information about themselves, and we can't trust companies to make a dispassionate judgement about whether there ought to be Wikipedia entries on themselves.  Apologies that we leaped to conclusions, but this kind of thing is a major problem on Wikipedia and for every one instance of a user who cares about Wikipedia rules, there are two dozen who are just trying to exploit Wikipedia for financial gain.  Mango juice talk 17:57, 16 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I have made the username request change. I appreciate you time, and will try to collate some more articles about the company. I will add whatever information that I can. But don't want to be seen to be adding to the problem if that makes sense. If the article doesn't carry enough weight, then it will have to go. I will obviously do what I can to make sure that you have enough information to make an informed decision. Thank You.Y0z2a (talk) 13:36, 17 March 2009 (UTC)