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Welcome (and a warning) from Justanother
Welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your interest in improving the articles in the Category:Scientology (see also WikiProject Scientology). Just so you know what you will encounter here; there are very few knowledgable Scientologists editing here; a good number of dedicated critics; and a lot of less biased editors that have none-the-less been influenced by misrepresentation of Scientology on the internet and have no positive experience of Scientology to balance that with. I seriously recommend that, before tackling Scientology articles, that you edit in other non-controversial articles that you are knowledgable about until you see how things work here. Also learn to use a watchlist (you can set your preferences up to watch every article you edit in). You may also find this premade watchlist of use to you. Follow the guidelines in the welcome message. Do not add or remove material without citing sources (or lack of sources after a good-faith attempt to find one yourself). Stay polite and never get personal. Do not allow yourself to be drawn into personal battles because someone attacked you first. To not engage in edit wars. Many Scientologist editors have been banned from this site for breaking the rules; don't join them. See my page for general tips and a "hat writeup" (here) that may be helpful even though it is a very rough draft. Feel free to ask me anything. --Justanother 06:21, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

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== Welcome (and a warning) from Justanother ==

Welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your interest in improving the articles in the Category:Scientology (see also WikiProject Scientology). Just so you know what you will encounter here; there are very few knowledgable Scientologists editing here; a good number of dedicated critics; and a lot of less biased editors that have none-the-less been influenced by misrepresentation of Scientology on the internet and have no positive experience of Scientology to balance that with. I seriously recommend that, before tackling Scientology articles, that you edit in other non-controversial articles that you are knowledgable about until you see how things work here. Also learn to use a watchlist (you can set your preferences up to watch every article you edit in). You may also find this premade watchlist of use to you. Follow the guidelines in the welcome message. Do not add or remove material without citing sources (or lack of sources after a good-faith attempt to find one yourself). Stay polite and never get personal. Do not allow yourself to be drawn into personal battles because someone attacked you first. To not engage in edit wars. Many Scientologist editors have been banned from this site for breaking the rules; don't join them. See my page for general tips and a "hat writeup" (here) that may be helpful even though it is a very rough draft. Feel free to ask me anything. --~

Happy Ho Ho's
Hi Buddy, how is it going? --Justanother 00:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Input from others
External Links go in the ==External Links== section. Not immediately obvious and not obviously stated in the policy pages when I read them. Slightlyright 10:29, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

There's probably not much to add, but here are some suggestions:
 * The Auditors Code [] is a vital piece of tech, here as in life.
 * Another stable datum from LRH is that the emphasis should be on the subject of Scientology itself, rather than its organisations or personnel (sorry, I don't have the exact reference but it was one of his 'old cuffs' in the Professional Auditors Bulletins). The controversies here are about organisations and personnel, or come from earlier religious and mental practices.  No-one's likely to get into a slanging match about such concepts as the ARC triangle or the cycle of action.
 * There's no need to use a sexy, journalistic prose style. Emotive writing stirs up emotional responses; I aim for a dry, fact-filled style like a solicitor's brief or a scientific paper.  DavidCooke 04:50, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Some good advice here. I highly recommend giving it a little more structure, though—maybe some topic headings to help break it down. The Jade Knight 12:13, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Welcome
Welcome to Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia and welcome to my personal Userpage. I am a Scientologist in good standing with the Church of Scientology and have been a Scientologist for over 30 years. I am also "Freezoner-friendly" and, believe it or not, I am pretty "critic-friendly" too. I believe in acting the minister (I was formally the Chaplain at a large Org) and practicing "pan-determinism" (being friendly to all sides rather than taking an entrenched "position" in a debate or contest). I use the pseudonym, "justanother" here because I want to be seen as "just another editor". If you are a Scientologist too and since you have found this page then I imagine that you have visited at least one article in the Scientology Series here and saw my name either in the edit history or on the talk page. Great! I am glad that you have found me. I am here to help. Please say "Hello" to me by making an entry on my talk page. It is easy to do - just click here and remember to "Save page".

The problem
OK, you may have noticed a bit of a problem in the Scientology series articles. First, of course, there is the sheer number of them, over 270 as of May, 2007. I will discuss why that is a problem last. The main problem can be summed up in one sentence.For years, a small group of off-wiki (think alt.religion.scientology) critics of Scientology, along with a few on-wiki fellow travelers, have hijacked the Wikipedia project to the extent of using the Scientology-series articles to forward their biased anti-Scientology sentiments and, despite the efforts of less-biased Wikipedia editors, the Scientology-series articles still reflect that anti-Scientology bias.There, that is one sentence. Bit long ("NPR sentence") but one sentence. I will expand just a bit but before I do; ''them thar are fightin' words. Best that you just leave them right here and don't go spreadin' 'em 'bout.''

The solution
The solution is quite simple and requires only two actions:
 * 1) Make the articles and the critics of Scientology follow the rules here, and
 * 2) Follow the rules yourself and add/rewrite the articles as necessary to remove misrepresentations and undue bias and add well-written material that will bring about understandings of Scientology and Scientologists (hint - name your product) is addition to the understandings of criticism of Scientology and critics that are already well represented in the articles.