User talk:Jvos

August 2014
Lack of scientific references was the reason that some years ago an earlier version of this article was not accepted. Now usually scientific references about this type of search engines is hard to get. This might also be one of the reasons why an article about a comparable search engine as Musipedia has been accepted by Wikipedia, without such references.

We think that the MelodyCatcher deserves more attention, because of its quality and social aim to promote older music. In fact we receive many favors from users about surprising results. In the mean time it also is broadly notified by several independent web organizations that the MelodyCatcher is the best melody finder among comparable music search engines. In fact this is a confirmation of our own extended evaluations showing far better results with the MelodyCatcher in a direct comparison with the Folktunefinder and Musipedia. In relation to Wikipedia's main goal to provide relevant and complete information, I assume that this article - like that of musipedia - will be acceptable without scientific references, like that of Musipedia.

No need to say that all comments / suggestions to improve the article remain welcome'

Best regards Jan van OS

October 2009
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, one or more of the external links you added do not comply with our guidelines for external links and have been removed. Wikipedia is not a collection of links; nor should it be used for advertising or promotion, and doing so is contrary to the goals of this project. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the before reinserting it. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you.  Them From  Space  02:25, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Melodycatcher
Hi Jvos,

I saw you created the Melodycatcher page asking assistance. Before going into that, you should know that directly contacting the deleting admin is often the best course of action to take - non admins cannot see a removed page, which means that it is highly likely noone will see the help request. Alternatively, questions could be asked at the help desk.

Now, for the question you asked: The G7 tag is rather odd, as it signals that you have blanked the page (Which is supported by the fact you didn't seem to get a warning template about the pages removal). Did you happen to blank the page? Other then that, I Assume you are refering to this page on WikiHow? If that is the case the page would qualify for removal under the WP:NOTHOWTO guideline. The WP:NOT guidelines, along with the WP:CSD guidelines are the prime reasons for removal of a page. More detailed information is listed under WP:WMD

If you have any question regarding this, feel free to contact me on my talk page or drop a note at the help desk. Wikipedia is truly not that complex at all, but the sheer amount of information often overwhelms new users. With kind regards, Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 12:59, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

WP:HD reply.
Hi Jvos, I noticed your question of the help desk, and before i comment on the subject itself, i think i should go over using the talk page. (Your the second person having a problem with that today actually) :)

Talk Page
I whipped up a little How To image (In paint, as i didn't have Photoshop on this PC) that shows how to add text to a talk page. The image consists of a few screenshots with each section of the image being numbered. Note that every section is really a separate image, so at no time your screen will look like this image.

Guidance Image - Click me! The text beneath this is related to this screenshot - separate it won't make sense.
 * 1) In the search box, type "User talk:Excirial" without the quotes. You might can also click on the Contact Me link next to my signature - also, clicking my username and then clicking the talk tab on top of the screen will work.
 * 2) If you get there, the screen should display User Talk:Excirial as the titel for the current page, as displayed in the screenshot. The blue/yellow theme should also be quite recognizable. Once there, click the tab marked with a +
 * 3) Once done, you should see a page called "Editing user talk:Excirial (New section)". In the top area called "Subject/headline" you can input the title of the conversation. In the larger text box under it you can insert the question. Pressing "Save Page" will save the message to my talk page. It should not be all that different from asking a question at the help desk, as you seemed to have done that just fine :).

Article
First and foremost the article looks a lot better then most of the new pages i see every day, but it still has a few minor issues.


 * 1) There are a few words in the text that qualify as peacock terms. For example: " The algorithm used for converting melodies into a contour is the result of an extensive research to find a sensible balance between accuracy and tolerance for user input errors". The words i bolded are really opinions. What you call extensive i could call short. What you can sensible i can call a folly. "Research Efforts" for example, has no inherited opinion.
 * 2) The article does currently not cite any sources, and has therefor no inline citations. Remember that the inclusion criteria is verifiability, not truth - any claims made should be supportable by reliable sources. Personally i would not mark this article for removal anymore already, but someone might still succesfully challenge and remove it as not notable.
 * 3) You have an inherent Conflict of Interest towards the subject. In this article its not a bad issue anymore (Though there is a faint positive bias on the subject). However, keep in mind that writing about subjects you are related to is discouraged because it can be extremely hard to keep a neutral point of view. Again, if i didn't see your username coincided with the inventors name i could only have suspected it.

Hope this helps, and with kind regards, Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 22:12, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Melodycatcher
A tag has been placed on Melodycatcher requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for web content. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you.  ttonyb (talk) 16:47, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Welcome!
Welcome to Wikipedia, Jvos! I have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Wikipedia! If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on or by typing helpme at the bottom of this page. I love to help new users, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Oh yeah, I almost forgot, when you post on talk pages you should sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); that should automatically produce your username and the date after your post. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on, or place helpme on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome!  ttonyb (talk) 21:53, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
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Why did I never get any response ???
The Melodycatcher is far better than Musipedia as one can easily try. For years I tried to get this music search eninge in Wikiperia where also Musipedia has been accepted Last month I even did not get any response. My first admin has retired. Who can answer me?

Re-editing the article Melodycatcher
When asking for help it takes many month to get any response.at all. On questions no answers are given except fully unclear and exaggerated instructions.

My conclusion: it is of no use to try to re-edit the article. In my opinion this all is only preventing useful information to be added to Wikipedia. Jvos

Your draft article, Draft:Melodycatcher


Hello, Jvos. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Melodycatcher".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the, , or  code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Interstellarity T 🌟 14:46, 13 July 2019 (UTC)