User talk:Jy013709

Welcome to Wikipedia! I'm glad you want to get involved, but I'm afraid there's a problem with the article you created,  Andrew Ellery. It did not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Don't feel too badly; lots of people have a little trouble when creating their first article. You might find it useful to read Your First Article for some good advice about starting to create articles on Wikipedia. Two important rules of thumb are: Avoid writing about yourself, your business, your family and friends, or your web page, and avoid writing about anything that hasn't been written about in reliable sources like books, newspapers, and magazines. Anyway, don't be discouraged. I've deleted the article you created, and feel free to ask me if you have any more questions. If I've made a mistake, and this article really is about a subject that meets the notability criteria, then please let me know my leaving me a message and links to at least three newspaper articles, magazine articles, or books that have been written about the subject, and I'll be glad to undelete it, and even add the sources so no other patroller makes the same mistake. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 00:52, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi I dont know how to reply to a message. Sorry if this is wrong, I have searched the help and followed your link but i'm stuck. Anyway, thanks so much for your message. I feel that Andrew Ellery is notable because he is gaining significant coverage throughout the profession of social work. He is writing a monthly column for a well-read magazine. Myself and my colleagues all enjoy reading the magazine. Infact we were all discussing this and we believe he is the first student to make regular contributions to any of our professions magazines. It is reliable as it is in print and online and therefore is being published in 2 forms of media. I would send you a few links, however the article published in the November edition (as i said on the article) is the first of a regular feature. Myself and my colleagues felt he was worth noting on wikipedia, it is a breath of fresh air seeing people coming into this profession already standing up to the pressures. He has a large audience for sure. I hope this helps.

Ellie x
 * Great! I'll be happy to undelete this, if you can post links to two or three journal articles about (not by) him in significant sources. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 01:14, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Heya, im sorry, I dont know of any where else or anyone else who has published his work or those who have written about him. I'm sure there must be,- his article and future contributions just provoked discussion in our office. I read the notability guidelines and think it meets those. Undelete it and i'm sure others will eventually add other bits as and when he writes more :)

Ellie x
 * If I undelete it without references, someone else will just delete it again immediately. Better to wait until I can add the sources. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 01:23, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Well this is the full reference to his printed article

- Professional Social Work. (2009). How do you sleep at night? Birmingham: British Association of Social Workers. And the link to the online version I posted on the article.

I can wait until a few have been published if that makes any difference

Thanks FisherQueen x
 * No, that doesn't help- to show that he is a notable writer, we don't need works by him, but articles that have been written about him in significant sources, discussing what makes him an important writer. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 01:39, 5 November 2009 (UTC)