User talk:Jym Howe

I guess there is a COI, so if you want to delete the page because of that, that's certainly your option. But I would think that you would want whatever is on the page to be the most accurate ... since I know the details about the band everything on the page is accurate and not just advertising. I don't believe there is anything in the page that could be construed as promotional lines. I was editing is as I looked up the details. And as for the credit on the accolades, I am still working on the page and would have that up later ... I am just currently on tour with the band in New England and haven't had a lot of time to put into it. I guess you would say it was a work in progress. But there is a COI, so with that said, you may want to just delete it. But it can't be said that any of the information was anything other than informative. I was just giving facts about the band. Since I use Wikipedia regularly and our band has increased in popularity and have been doing more and more interviews, I thought that having a Wikipedia page would help those interviewers find out FACTS about the band. But as I said, if I broke protocol, I apologize and won't argue with you about your decision. Jym Howe (talk) 05:19, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I would like to clarify some things; the page isn't being suggested for deletion simply because there is a COI, nor is the accuracy of the information being doubted. The concern is that the notability guidelines for bands are not being met or at least are not being shown to be met with independent reliable sources. It isn't enough for a page to simply "provide information"(which can be considered promotion even if it isn't blatant advertising) or to want to help interviewers with their information(which would be the role of a website for the band and not Wikipedia); the subject must be shown to be notable. Not every band merits a Wikipedia page.
 * If you can demonstrate that the band meets the notability guidelines, please do so on the talk page of the article(or in the deletion discussion) as doing so and allowing others to write about it would reduce any COI issues. 331dot (talk) 07:45, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

What do you recommend to meet the notability guideline? We've had songs on every major southern gospel chart out there, we have won multiple awards from various organization and magazines, and we have been booked on many major stages throughout the US. I'm just asking for suggestions.24.62.76.243 (talk) 17:41, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm assuming you are this user, Jym Howe(please remember to log in before posting); Independent non-trivial coverage in multiple magazines (i.e. not press releases or other content published at the behest of the band; not sources merely listing performance dates) might work if the sources are reliable. Awards might also work if they are "major" awards.  Another of the criteria is a band's music being in rotation by a national radio/tv network, if that's the case with your band.  The two key things here are 1) having the sources so the information can be verified and 2) that as a member of the band you really should not be editing the page about it yourself, at least not without others reviewing what you want to add beforehand or afterwards(though it would be better to let others add the information if possible).  In this case I would suggest posting any sources you have on the deletion discussion page first, which will help convince others that this band meets the criteria for inclusion. 331dot (talk) 09:40, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, Jym Howe. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you have an external relationship with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article MARK209, you may have a conflict of interest or close connection to the subject.

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Nomination of MARK209 for deletion
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The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/MARK209 until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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