User talk:JzG/Archive 94

Nomination of The Monsters in the Morning for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article The Monsters in the Morning is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/The Monsters in the Morning (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Levdr1 lp /  talk  12:45, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Mobolaji Akiode
Did you look for sources prior to nominating Mobolaji Akiode for deletion? I am having a hard time believing that you did, otherwise you would have seen this story from ESPN, this story from a year ago or this other story about her time at ESPN. She was an Olympic athlete and has represented her country at the Commonwealth Games. What does not being 'known' in western countries have to do with anything? You should do some research into Wikipedia's systematic bias against non-western white men and topics and think a bit more before you make such a biased nomination next time.--TM 00:08, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I responded to an email request from the subject. We have a poorly-sourced article, almost unsourced in fact, and the one source we do have is not independent. Feel free to fix that. Being an olympian is not a guarantee of notability, that is entirely down to the subject being the primary focus of non-trivial coverage in reliable independent sources Guy (Help!) 07:19, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

greetings
Laughter Yoga as relating to Yoga imho is not a wise move.

Just because of the way people have not cleaned it up does not necessarily mean that the subject in actual real life is absorbable into Yoga.

If you had rather than put your explanation in an edit summary and gone to the talk page, well then it might have been a bit more interesting point to work from.

Please allow me some time to prune the article, to at least remove the advertigsing aspect - if you really want to have fun at this sort of stuff - try Rajneesh - and the talk page there, and you will surely find parts there you might wish to reduce as well.

I do hope that a pruned article might be closer to what is needed. cheers satusuro 13:44, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Having a closer look at the article, and understanding where your criticism and the subject comes from and what is entailed, simply redirecting to yoga styles - if it had been discussed at the talk page, well then, that is another way of dealing with the issue, but simply summarising and deleting, well sorry I think something need to be pondered a little lomnger than that. satusuro 13:49, 22 January 2014 (UTC)


 * No comment. satusuro 14:40, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
 * No comment again satusuro 16:17, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

lol
hilarious email response!

Dell UK doesn't use lync? (Or maybe its not working hours there). Gaijin42 (talk) 18:28, 24 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, I am currently using my personal laptop (it's outside working hours now and I'm doing Wikipedia stuff) but I have Lync installed and connected. Did you try to connect? Guy (Help!) 19:00, 24 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I did. You don't come up in lync's directory for me, or even the email directory. Maybe the UK & US address books don't play nice though. (Or since I'm in an acquisition, maybe its not fully synced or something). Or I suppose you could have been fired. If so condolences :) Gaijin42 (talk) 19:07, 24 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Definitely not fired, at this stage, and survivied the WFR programme. If you've mailed ,I'll try and work it out. Guy (Help!) 23:37, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Fighting the endless fight against sockpuppets!
Well thank you! I do enjoy a game of whack-a-mole every now and then :-) Guy (Help!) 15:37, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
 * LOL yea it's a game now, challenge accepted! LADY LOTUS • TALK 16:46, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
 * See my entry here... Guy (Help!) 18:34, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks to both of you for work on this. Span (talk) 23:22, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Question
Since you seem to be the go-to-guy about whitewashing lately, could I have your input here (if you have time)? Thanks. BlueSalix (talk) 04:06, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Accreditation and white washing by government addresses
I saw you are interested in accreditation and diploma mills. I was hoping you could provide input at the Cathy McMorris Rodgers page. Rodgers attended Pensacola Christian College in 1990, which was unaccredited until a few months ago (when TRACS approved it). There is plentiful sourcing, such as The Chronicle of Higher Education, about its unaccredited nature. I think when the article says she has a degree and gives the name of the school it should mention the school was unaccredited.

Given accreditation is so important to a school, it would be like saying a business someone worked for was never licensed or insured. Without mentioning the lack of accreditation, people will be misled and assume the institution is a normal, accredited school when it is not. RobinBnn (talk) 14:55, 29 January 2014 (UTC)


 * PS. A few days ago I logged nearly a dozen IPs that are from Washington DC and the government, which have been white washing the page, including the accreditation issue. You can see them listed here: Talk:Cathy_McMorris_Rodgers. RobinBnn (talk) 14:58, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Yesterday the article was added with a reference by the Washington Post that McMorris attended an unaccredited school. Now an editor's response is that it's inclusion is a "smear attempt" and now his goal is to stop readers from thinking "Rodgers received a substandard education" (Exchange at Talk:Cathy_McMorris_Rodgers.)

Her residence, Washington state, makes it illegal to use a "fake of misleading" degree punishable by five years in prison, and specifically means accreditation (see the law here). I'm getting frustrated dealing with an editor who sees conspiracy and its trying to inject his POV on her quality of education. Any recommendations on what to do? RobinBnn (talk) 16:54, 30 January 2014 (UTC)


 * The article's talk page is the only proper venue for this discussion. Guy (Help!) 18:50, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Lyndsey Turner
Hi, I am intrigued by your deletion of the article on Lyndsey Turner. It was fully referenced by strong, reliable sources. I am not contesting, just enquiring after this unusual move after an OTRS request. Thanks Span (talk) 22:07, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Email me please. Guy (Help!) 22:10, 22 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks Span (talk) 22:01, 24 January 2014 (UTC)


 * This article has been recreated, remarkably clean looking article for a new editorTheLongTone (talk) 13:56, 25 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Jz, could you comment here? Thanks Span (talk) 01:40, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you both for the heads-up. I am not averse to a new article (the subject is just about encyclopaedic) but the "brand new user" is almost certainly an individual known to the subject and police. Guy (Help!) 10:02, 26 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Given real world harassment of the subject, it's probably best to leave it for now. Span (talk) 15:20, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree. I have asked Ms. Turner to let us know when the issue is resolved, so we can review it then. Guy (Help!) 22:53, 26 January 2014 (UTC)


 * FYI this article just popped up.-- Pink Bull  02:53, 27 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Holy Crow. This guy isn't giving up. Span (talk) 02:56, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi I know this is semi-old news as the article has been deleted and whatnot but what "real world harassment of the subject" and Guy asking Ms. Turner about the issue? What is this about? (if you don't mind me asking) LADY LOTUS • TALK 20:02, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * WP:OTRS Spartaz Humbug! 21:13, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * And that means...? LADY LOTUS • TALK 23:07, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * It means that the subject has emailed the Wikimedia Foundation's email repsonse volunteer team, and I am one of the email response volunteers. We're the folks who deal with hurt, angry people. Guy (Help!) 23:10, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Ya know I've done Wiki for a while and don't think I ever knew that that was a thing? What was she upset about? (Can I know?) LADY LOTUS • TALK 23:22, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't think I'd be giving much away if I was to say that someone has an unhealthy obsession (and not just with her, by the looks of it). Guy (Help!) 23:35, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Yea I'd definitely agree with that statement lol LADY LOTUS • TALK 23:42, 28 January 2014 (UTC)


 * It's appeared again, as Lyndsey Turner (British director)TheLongTone (talk) 14:25, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Fastest gun in the Wiki?TheLongTone (talk) 14:33, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Feel free to tidy up the SPI page Sockpuppet investigations/Fairyspit, I don't do a lot of that (I just hit them with the trusty banhammer). Guy (Help!) 14:34, 31 January 2014 (UTC)