User talk:K6ka/Archives/2013/December

Talkback
- Damian Zaremba (talk • contribs) 14:29, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Users blanking their own talk page
Hi there, I noticed you reverted someone who removed warnings from their own talk page. That's actually allowed - blanking it is taken as a sign that the warning has been read and understood. See WP:OWNTALK. I advise against reverting users who choose to do this, because it usually just ends up being a waste of your time. &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 21:39, 1 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Understood, though that user clearly didn't care about the warning, with "&^%$ off bot and admin" as an edit summary. K6ka (talk) 21:41, 1 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh, I agree - which is why I said it's probably a waste of your time to keep going back and forth with them. They've already been blocked anyway. &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 21:44, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

RE: Wattu
The Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wattu highly doubtful due to the lack of trustworthy sources and transparency. Even though there are sources, there is absolutely no reason to recognize these. Anyway the article is rather misleading and confusing than useful. I happen to be aware of the fact that it even is meant to be an attempt to defame a family clan that is involved in political controversies in Pakistan. I therefore request to review and delete this article. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.47.170.141 (talk) 00:04, 3 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid you're barking up the wrong tree. I'm not an admin, nor am I an important Wikipedian. I'm simply a teenaged guy who primarily focuses on reverting vandalism. If you would like to propose an article for deletion, consult these templates instead. You should also ask an admin that can help you, as I have no experience with this. Thanks! K6ka (talk) 00:11, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

RE: Gary Madine
Hi, I saw your message. Sorry I didn't provide a reference, although he's definitely serving time in jail:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-24398799 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.21.17.209 (talk) 18:26, 5 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I've checked the article and its already been mentioned that he's behind bars. Link. There's no need to repeat. K6ka (talk) 18:49, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

RE: Sayajirao Gaekwad III
Hey I did it by mistake — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.195.156.199 (talk) 12:39, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

RE: Twiglets
Why did you consider my edit unconstructive when it was a perfectly valid quote from the recent media. If you had ever actually tasted a twiglet then you would know that this is the most adequate description of the item ever voiced. This is not vandalism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.255.73.187 (talk) 18:09, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Where's your citations? If you don't cite your sources for something controversial, we revert. K6ka (talk) 18:12, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

It was on the show aired on ITV DEcember 4th and also here http://metro.co.uk/2013/12/04/im-a-celebrity-2013-alfonso-ribeiro-refuses-to-accept-joey-essex-is-more-famous-4216044/ 62.255.73.187 (talk) 18:17, 6 December 2013 (UTC)


 * One more thing - that didn't seem like it belongs to the article. There's a reason why Wikipelli reverted your edit as well. If you want to add it, please discuss it on the article talk page first - link. That's all I have to offer. K6ka (talk) 18:22, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

How does it not belong in the article under recent media coverage? This is the first and last time I will bother to edit in Wikipedia if this is how Draconian and ungracious your edits are. Have a good day — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.255.73.187 (talk) 18:30, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I absolutely agree that it shouldn't be in the article. What you're including is not what I would consider "media coverage". In the course of an interview, one person made a comment about the taste of the product. The 'coverage' was not on the product itself. My concern was that it was not cited. Now it is and I'll leave it to others to reach consensus on whether it should be included or not. I suggest you heed K6ka's advice and discuss it on the article's talk page.   Wikipelli  Talk   19:13, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

With respect your 'opinion' is not important here (as you have stated numerous times to others that you edit) and quite frankly you are wrong, which is precisely why you should not edit something on which you are uninformed and haven't researched. I'm guessing that you are in the USA and not familiar with British television or products? It was not just one persons opinion and the whole scene, on the reality show, was based around the product and the reactions of the group. Since when is a worldwide television broadcast not media coverage? As a result the item has trended on Twitter and numerous other social media sites together with national newspaper & radio coverage, if this does not cover the whole gamut of what we, in the modern world, know as 'media' then perhaps it's time for someone to retire from pedagogy.

Please remove the unnecessary warnings from my user talk page, thank you. 62.255.73.187 (talk) 09:11, 7 December 2013 (UTC)


 * See WP:OWNTALK if you want to remove the warnings. Removing them is a sign that you understand and accept the warnings. Also, I can't stress this enough, especially on my userpage, but I am Canadian. Also, may I suggest that you peruse WP:CONPOL, and as I've already suggested, discuss it on the article talk page. Thank you. K6ka (talk) 14:31, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Your rollback request
Hi K6ka, I have granted rollback rights to your account in accordance with your request. Please be aware that rollback should be used to revert vandalism/spam/blatantly unconstructive edits, and that using it to revert any other type of edit - such as by revert-warring or reverting edits you disagree with - can lead to it being removed from your account...sometimes without any warning depending on the admin who becomes aware of any misuse. If you think an edit should require a reason for reverting, use a manual edit summary instead of using the rollback tool. For practice, you may wish to see New admin school/Rollback. Good luck. Acalamari 19:30, 7 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you! K6ka (talk) 19:31, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hello, thanks very much For the barnstar! I'm glad to have been of assistance. If you need any further help with Wikipedia, feel free to ask me. Graham 87 15:02, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Terrorism
Please do not condone terrorism by listing service in a paramilitary as a legitimate military career. If this is a subject which you are not familiar with then please get back in touch. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.120.67.127 (talk) 23:35, 9 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, but I have no idea what you are talking about. K6ka (talk) 01:01, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi
Mandela was a convicted terroist and Zuma was a alleged aquitted rapist so I am telling the truth am I not? --Tochnaquart (talk) 16:59, 14 December 2013 (UTC)


 * The information is true, however it's not appropriate to put that on the article. We're talking about the funeral of Nelson Mandela, so we respect everyone named in the article. K6ka (talk) 17:00, 14 December 2013 (UTC)


 * @Tochnaquart Those labels also grossly over-simplify the situation. No respectable source would use them without providing context. That context does not belong in the funeral article. -- Neil N  talk to me  17:16, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

December 2013
Hello, I'm Liam987. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions to Jackson Rogow because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. The reverted edit can be found [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=586109589 here]. Liam987 (talk)  23:12, 14 December 2013 (UTC) Sorry, when I clicked revert on WP:Igloo you had already reverted the vandalism, so I accidentally reverted your edit instead. Sorry. Liam987 (talk)  23:14, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 * That's alright. I use Twinkle to revert to an earlier revision, since it won't automatically add a warning to a user's talk page, which is useful in cases like this. Pretty much all vandal fighters have Twinkle in case this happens. K6ka (talk) 23:16, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I use Twinkle as well as Igloo. Igloo is more automated, and allows you to review recent edits. You then have the option to revert the edit if it is vandalism, and this includes automatically adding a warning to the user's talk page. Normally I only revert edits using Igloo if the vandalism is very obvious; otherwise I go to the article itself and use Twinkle. In this case, the vandalism you reverted was very obvious vandalism, so I naturally clicked revert. I'm not sure exactly why it didn't warn me that the vandalism had already been reverted, as it usually does, I'm not sure. Anyway, sorry, and I'll try to be more careful. Liam987  (talk)  23:25, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 * So it didn't warn you that the edit was already reverted "as it usually does"? Well, that's not your fault then. Good thing you let me know about it, though. K6ka (talk) 23:29, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism edits
K6ka, I am 74.101.50.76 and LennySkutnik. Also the subject of George Malley (athlete).

I am also the moderator of a track and field related website and have had problems with the two malicious trolls, Hardloop and Jamin12345 who created this Wikipedia entry as a means to harass me, If you will note both of their contributor ID were created today. .Either ban them from further edits are take the wiki entry down completely.

74.101.50.76 (talk) 04:38, 15 December 2013 (UTC)LennySkutnik aka 74.101.50.76 aka George Malley 12/14/13


 * Sorry, I'm not an admin here. Please consult the Requests for administrator attention page for issues like these. I am simply a rollbacker that reverts the edits. K6ka (talk) 12:07, 15 December 2013 (UTC)


 * 74.101.50.76 Thank you, but I find this whole wiki-admin/talk thing very confusing. 74.101.50.76 (talk) 14:24, 15 December 2013 (UTC)


 * If you have questions, pay a visit to the Teahouse and ask your questions there. It's a nice, friendly environment designed to help newcomers settle in to Wikipedia. K6ka (talk) 17:56, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Editing narrator line of Chennai Express
I do not understand why that part removes from article. I am not vandalizing it. You have saw the film. So tell me whose voice it was throughout the film? And every time i edit the part some one removes me. Buddy i always contribute not vandalize it! Sir plz don't revert it humble request by me — Preceding unsigned comment added by TekkenJinKazama (talk • contribs) 08:16, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but I have not seen the film. Please do not assume that. I reverted your edit because you removed a chunk of content without explaining why. K6ka (talk) 12:10, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Sir, it was done by mistake. And i am big fan of Shahrukh Khan. I just try to edit the "narrator" part and he is narrator and actor of the film. And sir please try to understand i am just wanted to represent the narrator of it. Please sir. And i dont vandalise it. My intention is not to vandalise. I just wanna represent it. I respect each edits and here just to add one part. Humble request to you sir. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TekkenJinKazama (talk • contribs) 15:20, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

You were wrong
I apologize if I may seem rude but I am Jaames Maslow and I played with my page to have some fun and I actually do like the story Count Dracula — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imback1109 (talk • contribs) 18:07, 16 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but even if I believe you (which I don't), you still do NOT add unsourced information on the biographies of living people. Read WP:CITE and WP:BLP. Thank you. K6ka (talk &#124; contrib) 18:11, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

WHY IS EVERYONE SAYING THAT JAMES MASLOW DOESNT LIKE THE STORY COUNT DRACULA
I asked him if he liked it and he said Yes and he even played a vampire in one of the BTR episodes — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imback1109 (talk • contribs) 18:12, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

listen I'm sorry
I'm sorry that i lied about being James maslow but I'm a big fan of him and the only to make you believe me is by saying that I am James maslow — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imback1109 (talk • contribs) 18:14, 16 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Impersonation on Wikipedia is treated VERY STRICTLY. Do NOT do that again. Read WP:BLP before making another edit. Thank you. K6ka (talk &#124; contrib) 18:16, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

okay...
dude I said I'm sorry sheesh slow down don't you know what a joke is? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imback1109 (talk • contribs) 18:30, 16 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I do have a sense of humour - however, your joke wasn't even close to being funny. K6ka (talk &#124; contrib) 20:09, 16 December 2013 (UTC)


 * You've also ignored all the warnings on your talk page and continued to re-add the unsourced content. If this was a joke, it isn't anymore. K6ka (talk &#124; contrib) 20:11, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Sorry 'bout the Three Little Pigs thing.
My friend was messing around with my laptop and he posted a "G" in the middle of the word "various". Sorry, won't happen again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.81.96.223 (talk) 23:33, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

history of the Green Party of Canada
hi - You asked me to leave a message for you on this page. Your message to me was about the edits I made to the article on the History of the Green Party of Canada. The first part of this article is 100% false - the GPC was not founded in 1981 and it was not founded by Steven Kaasgaard. I helped to organize the founding conference of the GPC at Carleton University in Ottawa in 1983 (with a handful of other activists) and I don't remember Steven Kaasgaard being involved at all in the early days of the party. I checked this with another founder of the party Stephen Burtch, and he agreed that Steven Kaasgaard was not involved in the early days of the GPC. So there is no reason to mention his name in the early history of the party and it is certainly unjustified to give him the prominent role this article does. The second paragraph of the current article is very personal to Mr. Kaasgaard and suggests that it was written by him or a personal friend. The article is fine if the first two paragraphs are removed and the mention of Steven Kaasgaard in the third paragraph is removed.

Please let me know if you need any further information on this topic.

Thanks, Ray Tomalty — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.48.192.100 (talk) 01:58, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi - please remember to sign your posts using ~ . That revert was a month ago, so I'm surprised you haven't spoken up until now. I reverted your edit to the page because you didn't provide an edit summary explaining why you removed the content. If you do not explain, we assume vandalism and revert. If the information on the article is incorrect, please do some research, change the information to the article, and remember to cite your sources. The article already has a "Multiple issues" tag, and one of them is that "The article needs additional citations to verify its verifiability." Do not simply remove the information; your edit made the article awkward and incomplete, as it lacked an intro. K6ka (talk) 02:02, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry - I'm afraid I didn't notice the banner saying I had a message from you - which explains why you didn't hear from me for a month. This article on the History of the Green Party of Canada was fine up until the June 2, 2013 post which added the erroneous material. So I suggest you revert to the March 6, 2013 version. The erroneous material was added by someone at WildGreens, which is Mr. Kaasgaard's group. If you look at the Green Party of Canada's website <>you will see that it starts with the Ottawa conference in 1983 and the only person it mentions in that connection is the first leader, Trevor Hancock. There is no mention of Mr. Kaasgaard and a search of his name on the Internet shows up only letters from him that claim he founded the party. There are no articles from independent sources making this claim. I've asked Election Canada how to get the list of the people who signed the GPC registration papers in 1983 and will verify with you then that Mr. Kaasgaard is not on the list (Stephen Burtch, who signed the registration papers, says Steven Kaasgaard was not a signatory). But even if he was on the list, it would still be erroneous to claim that he founded the party as that title, if it has to be attributed to a single individual, would have to go to Air Canada airline pilot Edward (Ted) Mousseau, who used his frequent stopovers in cities across Canada to put green-minded groups in touch with each other and to build momentum for creating the GPC. I'm not saying that Mr. Kaasgaard was not involved in the early history of the Greens in Ontario - he was. He was noted for his direct actions designed to embarrass politicians and he was involved in the constitutional struggles within the Green Part of Ontario. But he did not found the GPC, which is what is being claimed in this article. If you read the second paragraph of the current version of the article, you can see that it is defensively written and seems to be responding to other complaints that he was not centrally involved in the founding of the GPC. The text in question claims there are many people who can attest to his involvement and that there are many newspaper articles about it, but fails to name or cite anything to support what is obviously a controversial claim. I'm an adjunct prof at McGill so I have access to full text newspaper records of every newspaper in Canada going back to the early 1980s. I searched Steven Kaasgaard's name and the only hits were referring to his electoral runs for the Greens and an event in June, 1983 in which he chained himself to the gate of the landfill site in Penetanguishene to protest against a three-year extension of the site's use. There is no mention of him being the founder of the GPC. So this is the situation: 1) you have two people (myself and Stephen Burtch) who were directly involved in founding the party (through our work in organizing the 1983 founding congress in Ottawa) and one of whom (Burtch) signed the papers registering the party, both of whom say that Mr. Kaasgaard was not directly involved in founding the GPC, or if he was, he certainly didn't play the exclusive and central role that this article claims 2) you have changes to an article that add strangely personal and defensive text claiming that Mr. Kaasgaard founded the party, text that appears to have been written by someone in Mr. Kaasgaards small organization, and that claims multiple sources of evidence but cites none of them; 3) a complete lack of any evidence supporting this claim in Canadian newspapers going back to the early 1980s. I think you can gather from this that the changes to this article added on June 2, 2013 were probably erroneous. They should be removed. In my opinion, the March 6, 2013 article reads fine. 198.48.192.100 (talk) 03:33, 18 December 2013 (UTC)Ray Tomalty198.48.192.100 (talk) 03:33, 18 December 2013 (UTC)


 * That's a LOT of information to take in! I almost fell asleep reading your post. My only other suggestion would be to bring this issue up on the talk page of the article, and see what others think. K6ka (talk &#124; contrib) 17:59, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

History of Hong Kong article
Hi, K6ka. I saw that you copyedited a grammatical error in a content rework by Spiritclaymore (please see his talk page). I've actually reverted to an earlier version as Spiritclaymore has been edit warring over this article and others. Please check his additions in order to confirm whether or not you would agree with me that my evaluation of the content is correct or not. I have tried to reason with him a couple of times, but am receiving uncivil responses.

I'd be grateful if you could keep the article on your watchlist as this is not his only attempt at blanking sources and changing the content. Thanks for being so vigilant! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 03:01, 17 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Not to mention that he violated the 3RR, and he apparently removed citations to content. The thing that really gets a chuckle out of me is that he said "stupid english propaganda wiki". He also ignored the guidelines and policies surrounding issues like this.


 * I'm currently monitoring the page right now, but judging by the fact that he hasn't edited in a while, he's probably asleep or busy IRL. You might want to bring the issue up to the administrators and see if we can get the issue resolved in a manner that will allow everyone to sleep easier. K6ka (talk &#124; contrib) 03:11, 17 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Cheers, K6ka! If he starts up again, I'm just going to start an AN/I. Just thought I'd be a 'nice' gal and give him a chance to provide some reliable sources. Nice to meet you. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 03:28, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Grace Jones
Hi K6ka, I'm messaging you in reference to Grace Jones. Grace Jones was born as Beverley Grace Mendoza. Here is a link to my source http://www.glamourmagazine.co.uk/search?q=grace%20jones. Hopefully you will consider using my edit as I feel it will improve the article. 95.83.253.32 (talk) 18:10, 18 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Denied. There's nothing in the link you provided that hinted at "Mendoza." Please keep in mind that your sources must be reliable, and it must link directly to the information. Also, read WP:CITE to learn how to cite sources in the article. K6ka (talk &#124; contrib) 18:14, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ohtavala/Freeletics
Hello, please leave this page shutdown due to copyright infringements

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ohtavala/Freeletics

You can look at freeletics.com/en/pages/terms -> Paragraph 8

An email to the Wikipedia Copyright Team has been sent

Sincerely Team Freeletics — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.187.107.79 (talk) 21:22, 19 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Send legitimate reports, and do not simply blank the page. You cannot simply "shut down" a page even if it's about you or your company because Wikipedia articles don't belong to you. Also, the article was being developed on a user space, not in the usual public space, so you'll need to contact the author of the user page regarding this issue. Thank you. K6ka (talk &#124; contrib) 21:30, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Bob Cassidy
I just deleted the info and left out my "sharlatan" comment. I hope that's o.k.

Mr. Cassidy is a new-comer magician/mentalist and is trying all kinds of ways to get his name to show up on Google to get gigs. I don't think that's what Wikipedia is about, is it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.21.89.200 (talk) 04:47, 25 December 2013 (UTC)


 * You'll need a citation to prove that statement. Also, you shouldn't just remove content from entire articles, since that will be picked up as vandalism by bots and rollbackers alike. If he actually is trying to rip Google off and make his name appear on every web page on the Internet, you should add it to the article (with a citation of course). But before you do that, please discuss this on the article talk page first. K6ka (talk &#124; contrib) 14:13, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Raju last statement need to be discussed
The last statement in author said among the other peasant castes, but didn't said Raju from peasant caste. Raju is kshatriya - (suryavanshi and chandhravamshi).

> A report published by the Overseas Development Institute in 2002 described the Rajus of Andhra as a peasant caste and noted that along with the Kapu and Vellamar they were "important communities with considerable political significance in the State, although in numerical terms they constitute only a small percentage of the population and spatially are confined only to small pockets."[12] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.65.84.197 (talk) 16:10, 25 December 2013 (UTC)


 * ...sorry, just looking at that makes me wonder whether this is written in English or not. Since I do not know anything about the subject, I would advise you to bring the issue up to the article talk page, and come to a consensus first. K6ka (talk &#124; contrib) 16:16, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Question
Hello, K6ka. Thanks for recommending Twinkle. I have another question: I add the template to the IP's that make vandalism, but I've seen other users placed another template that starts with December 2013, my question is: What is this template?. Thanks.--Gray16 (talk) 22:08, 30 December 2013 (UTC)


 * That's not part of the template. Generally, when you add warnings, you group them by month. So for example,

November 2013
~ ==December 2013== ~  ~

While you issue warnings according to the date (only for IP addresses)(so if an IP vandalizes a page one day and you issue a level one warning, then 24 hours later it vandalizes again, you still issue a level 1 warning because there's the possibility that the owner was changed), they are organized by month and then year. Use level 2 headings, nothing else. You have to do this manually, like shown above. However, tools like Twinkle and any other tool that can automatically issue user warnings will do this automatically for you. K6ka (talk &#124; contrib) 23:42, 30 December 2013 (UTC)