User talk:K6ka/Archives/2014/November

Restoring absurd content with non-existing reference sources
You seem to have reverted my action and restored content subjected to non-existing reference source in the Wine article, together with the non-existing source, leaving it in incomplete state. The content itself is absurd, as all research projects of pased decades aimed to establish oringins of winegrape cultivation failed to narrow it down to such exteemly tiny geographic area. If such highly doubtfull content is added to the article, it should be based on solid reference sources. I highly suggest it to be removed. --Hayordi (talk) 12:42, 31 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Why do you repeatedly say "non-existent source" when all I was doing was adding an archive link to the source that did in fact exist. The original is currently unavailable but it was archived by the Wayback Machine when it was available, which you can see here. It's supported, and if you disagree with it, head over to the talk page with a better reason than "non-existent source". --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  14:02, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'm sorry for misunderstanding. Still the source is not related to the content that it's refered to. An extensive gene-mapping project in 2006 analyzed the heritage of more than 110 modern grape cultivars, narrowing their origin to a region of Georgia. Can't find anything about it there. Is this the referenced source? I'll take it to the talk page.--Hayordi (talk) 09:42, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2014-45
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes
 * The "Special:Cite" page is now called "Special:CiteThisPage". That way, you know it's to cite the page, not to add a reference.
 * You can no longer use the  keyword for text searches. It caused issues with the new search tool. It will come back later.

Problems
 * There was a bug in VisualEditor with Internet Explorer. It hid tools like the link editor when you opened them. The bug was fixed on Monday.
 * Issues with the new search tool caused geo data code to show up on pages on Monday and Friday. The mobile "nearby" tool was also broken. The problem is now fixed.
 * HHVM caused server issues on Thursday. They are now fixed.

Software changes this week
 * The new version of MediaWiki ( 1.25wmf5 ) has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since October 29. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from November 4, and on all Wikipedias from November 5 (calendar).
 * Some wikis have icons at the top of a page to show if it is protected or featured. Icons show up using CSS. You can now use the  tag in these templates instead to add the icons. [//www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skinning#Page_status_indicators]
 * VisualEditor now tells you if you're editing a re-used reference. This helps you avoid changing it if you just want to add a new one.
 * The icons in VisualEditor's template editor tool for adding more fields are back, along with other fixes.
 * After November 6, all wikis will have the tool to edit TemplateData. [//www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:TemplateData]

Future changes
 * The new search tool will come to the last wikis in the coming weeks. This includes Wikipedia in French, Chinese, German and English.

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US Army Pacific
My intent was to drop the 'US Army Pacfic' title and number '25' down below the organization chart. As the page is now displayed, these two are off set from the list of units. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.73.128.159 (talk) 20:42, 3 November 2014 (UTC)


 * If you're talking about the image there, you'll need to go to its page at the Wikimedia Commons, but you'll need to be logged in to upload new versions of files. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  20:56, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

My apologies
I seem to have a problem with my copy and pasting. That was intended to be a joke to myself, and apparently I copied it in. I tried to put back the box at the side... — Preceding unsigned comment added by No no no no no yup (talk • contribs) 22:12, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter—November 2014
Did you know? VisualEditor is also available on the mobile version of Wikipedia. Login and click the pencil icon to open the page you want to edit. Click on the gear-shaped settings in the upper-right corner, to pick which editor to use. Choose "Edit" to use VisualEditor, or "Edit source" to use the wikitext editor.

It will remember whether you used wikitext or VisualEditor, and use the same editor the next time you edit an article.

The user guide has information about how to use VisualEditor. Not all features are available in Mobile Web. Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and requests, and worked on support for editing tables and for using non-Latin languages. Their weekly updates are posted on Mediawiki.org. Informal notes from the recent quarterly review were posted on Meta.

Recent improvements
The French Wikipedia should see better search results for links, templates, and media because the new search engine was turned on for everyone there. This change is expected at the Chinese and German Wikipedias next week, and eventually at the English Wikipedia.

The "pawn" system has been mostly replaced. Bugs in this system sometimes added a chess pawn character to wikitext. The replacement provides better support for non-Latin languages, with full support hopefully coming soon.

VisualEditor is now provided to editors who use Internet Explorer 10 or 11 on desktop and mobile devices. Internet Explorer 9 is not supported yet.

The keyboard shortcuts for items in the toolbar's menus are now shown in the menus. VisualEditor will replace the existing design with a new theme from the User Experience / Design group. The appearance of dialogs has already changed in one Mobile version. The appearance on desktops will change soon. (You can see a developer preview of the old "Apex" design and the new "MediaWiki" theme which will replace it.)

Several bugs were fixed for internal and external links. Improvements to MediaWiki's search solved an annoying problem: If you searched for the full name of the page or file that you wanted to link, sometimes the search program could not find the page. A link inside a template, to a local page that does not exist, will now show red, exactly as it does when reading the page. Due to a error, for about two weeks this also affected all external links inside templates. Opening an auto-numbered link node like with the keyboard used to open the wrong link tool. These problems have all been fixed.

TemplateData
''' The tool for quickly editing TemplateData will be deployed to all Wikimedia Foundation wikis on Thursday, 6 November. ''' This tool is already available on the biggest 40 Wikipedias, and now all wikis will have access to it. This tool makes it easier to add TemplateData to the template's documentation. When the tool is enabled, it will add a button above every editing window for a template (including documentation subpages). To use it, edit the template or a subpage, and then click the "" button at the top. Read the help page for TemplateData. You can test the TemplateData editor in a sandbox at Mediawiki.org. Remember that TemplateData should be placed either on a documentation subpage or on the template page itself. Only one block of TemplateData will be used per template.

You can use the new autovalue setting to pre-load a value into a template. This can be used to substitute dates, as in this example, or to add the most common response for that parameter. The autovalue can be easily overridden by the editor, by typing something else in the field.

In TemplateData, you may define a parameter as "required". The template dialog in VisualEditor will warn editors if they leave a "required" parameter empty, and they will not be able to delete that parameter. If the template can function without this parameter, then please mark it as "suggested" or "optional" in TemplateData instead.

Looking ahead
Basic support for inserting tables and changing the number of rows and columns in tables will appear next Wednesday. Advanced features, like dragging columns to different places, will be possible later. The VisualEditor team plans to add auto-fill features for citations soon. To help editors find the most important items more quickly, some items in the toolbar menus will be hidden behind a "More" item, such as "underlining" in the styling menu. The appearance of the media search dialog will improve, to make picking between possible images easier and more visual. The team posts details about planned work on the VisualEditor roadmap.

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Feroze Gandhi
My friend.. Feroze was given the surname of "Gandhi". How can you also change the names of his family? How can you add Gandhi surname to his father and mother? Indira Gandhi was born Indira Nehru in a Kashmiri Pandit family on 19 November 1917 in Allahabad but Feroze was born Feroze Gandhi.. REALLY? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xkart001 (talk • contribs) 12:25, 7 November 2014 (UTC)


 * 1. It seemed to be a misunderstanding, and 2. A simple clarification is all I needed . Remember to assume good faith. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  12:29, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

To K6ka
Hello I am LittleMissRich You said something about me editing an article and you said it is not convincing so I search for the page that you are talking about.

I didn't edited it

Well maybe another person edited the article but the person (which I suspected one of my friends) uses my account but still thank you for informing me and thank you for editing it. ^_^ — Preceding unsigned comment added by LittleMissRich (talk • contribs) 12:53, 9 November 2014 (UTC)


 * This is the edit in question. Did you make it?


 * Please keep in mind that Wikipedia accounts should not be used by more than one person. If you have friends that want to edit Wikipedia, they must create their own accounts to edit. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  13:13, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks so much!
Thank you for editing as requested! I really appreciate it, since the protocols for doing so seem so complex. You almost need Bletchley Park brains to use! In any event, I appreciate your taking action--I never could have done it (obviously) by myself.

All best wishes

Walt (BunkyBoyne) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.79.62.27 (talk) 15:04, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-46
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes
 * You may see a new tool on the mobile site of the English Wikipedia. It asks simple questions to make the article better. In the future, your answers will go to Wikidata.
 * The MediaWiki API now shows information in a nice format. You can translate it in translatewiki.net.

File information cleanup
 * Reminder: You can help fix file information on your wiki. It will help robots understand the information. After that, it will be easier for you to search files and re-use them.
 * You can join two IRC chats this week to learn more about the file cleanup project. One will be on Wednesday at 18:00 (UTC) and the other on Thursday at 04:00 (UTC). You can ask questions during the chat if you need help to fix files on your wiki.
 * You can see a list of files to fix on the Labs tool. You can report bugs and ask questions on the talk page.

Problems
 * Wikimedia Labs was broken for a few hours on Thursday. It was due to a hardware problem.

Software changes this week
 * The new version of MediaWiki ( 1.25wmf7 ) has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since November 5. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from November 11, and on all Wikipedias from November 12 (calendar).
 * You can now use more editing tools for tables in VisualEditor. You can add rows and columns, merge cells, and edit table captions.
 * The style and insert menus in the toolbar of VisualEditor now show fewer tools. This helps you see the most common tasks. You can see all items by clicking "More".
 * The way windows inside VisualEditor work has changed. VisualEditor should be faster and have fewer bugs.

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Asil Nadir
It is in Turkish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.129.75.208 (talk) 12:35, November 13, 2014‎ (UTC)


 * Please read the message on your talk page carefully. That is not the issue here. The issue is that you didn't provide a reliable source and cite it into the article. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  12:39, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

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RE Username Change Request
Yeah, that's fine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yunetorg (talk • contribs) 15:20, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-47
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Software changes this week
 * The new version of MediaWiki ( 1.25wmf8 ) has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since November 12. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from November 18, and on all Wikipedias from November 19 (calendar).
 * The new search tool ("CirrusSearch") will be on the English Wikipedia from November 19.

Move from Bugzilla to Phabricator
 * The tool to track bugs will change on November 21.
 * You won't be able to add or edit bugs between November 21 and November 24.
 * You can make the change easier for you by creating your account.
 * Bugzilla will be frozen after the change. You will see, edit and report bugs in Phabricator.
 * You can join two IRC chats to learn more about the change. The chats will be on Tuesday, November 18 at 16:00 (UTC) and 23:00 UTC.

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Your activity
Why didn't you report this IP: Special:Contributions/71.89.87.59? They added grossly offensive content and BLP violations and yet you gave them a lenient warning. - Hoops gza (talk) 00:28, 18 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Well, the IP is blocked now (problem solved). When I do recent changes patrolling, I typically look for a "Level 4" or "Only" warning before I report them. Habit. But it's how I started recent changes patrolling, how semi-automated anti-vandal tools work, and it's how I do it today. Also, I'm not sure how a "Please stop your disruptive editing, otherwise you will be blocked from editing" is lenient. I've had a lot of people tell me I've been too "harsh" from the template warnings, so calling it lenient seems a bit weak. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  01:07, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Username Change
Hi, I'm new to this whole knew Wiki thing, so I'm not exactly sure what it is I need to do in order to get my name changed. XXportsideXx (talk) 22:07, 20 November 2014 (UTC) xXportsideXx


 * See Changing_username/Usurpations/Rejected/20. Your username cannot be given a lowercase letter, because the MediaWiki software automatically capitalizes the first letter of every username. You can, however, add the template lowercase title to your userpage and talk page so it appears to be in lowercase in the page title, and you can change your talk page signature in Special:Preferences to reflect that. I do the latter, since I originally thought of this username with a lowercase "k" in front, and that is reflected in my signature to compensate for these limitations. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  03:30, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-48
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The move from Bugzilla to Phabricator is done. You can now report bugs in Phabricator.

Problems
 * There was a problem when editing tables in VisualEditor. VisualEditor was trying to fix bad values for the  or   option. VisualEditor now leaves the bad values to avoid making things worse. This was fixed on November 17.

Software changes this week
 * The new version of MediaWiki ( 1.25wmf9 ) has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since November 19. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from November 25, and on all Wikipedias from November 26 (calendar).
 * You will be able to try VisualEditor on many new wikis for the first time. After November 26, VisualEditor will become available on Wikidata, Wikiquote, Wikibooks, Wikiversity, Wikivoyage, and Wikinews wikis. You can find it in your Beta options.
 * VisualEditor now tells you if your edit needs to be approved.
 * You can now use VisualEditor's tools directly when you resume editing after closing the save window.
 * VisualEditor's table editing tools now work better in right-to-left languages.

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Editing my article
My article was recently deleted and I would like to know what i have to change on my article "Allen Ritter" to meet Wikipedia guidelines? Joeurena (talk) 21:35, 25 November 2014 (UTC) Joeurena


 * The article didn't seem to be written in a neutral point of view. It's a global Wikimedia policy that pages are written in a neutral tone and avoid the use of Weasel or Peacock words. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  22:27, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Sleep and weight
Hi...i see you re-added the information I recently deleted on the sleep and weight page but i was instructed to delete it from my professor. i made this page for a college class and our teacher didnt actually want us to make the page live. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aweisenfels (talk • contribs) 21:46, 25 November 2014 (UTC)


 * You want to tell your teacher that, according to the license Wikipedia runs on, anything you put on Wikipedia or any Wikimedia project can and will be freely redistributed, reused, and edited by other people. You will be credited, but you don't own it. Because you don't own the material, you have no direct control over it. You may discuss with other editors about the material, but consensus must be evident for controversial actions, such as page deletions, will happen. If he/she doesn't want the page up anymore, too bad. You can have him/her go to articles for deletion if he/she really wants the page deleted, but chances are his/her reason won't be accepted. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  22:27, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Username change request
Hi, as per your suggestion, I made a request on SRUC, but to no avail:

What would you recommend I do next? I can't change my name due to the ru local account, and I can't do a global request due to the global account, leaving me stumped. Does it help that the ru account has not been used since 2011? Regards, Kira Chinmoku  09:46, 26 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Hmm. The only other thing I can think about is going to ru.wikipedia and filing a local usurp there to see if they can grant you that username. If not, though, you might not be able to get your new username, so you might have to improvise. You can try and have your account renamed to something similar, maybe "Sairento1" or "Sairento101". I use this method on YouTube, where k6ka is already taken, so I use "k6ka1" instead. Cheers. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  11:57, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

1st Priority
Hello I was jsut adding information on our Missing Person organization for all to see if their is something that is needed to make my input better please advise Thank You Angel Seguin Garcia Founder 1st Priority Search & Recovery — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1st Priority SAR (talk • contribs) 14:48, 26 November 2014 (UTC)


 * The issue is that your addition is promotional, and Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of advertisement. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  14:51, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Promotional
No sir I just added our Informattion that we have on our own website for all to see if that where it that would be fine but you also removed the website address from the external links section Yhanks Angel — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.193.93.113 (talk) 14:54, 26 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Is that you, ? If so, please remember to log in before editing. No, it seems that you did not read my message carefully enough. Your additions were promotional because it was written in a promotional tone, and remember that Wikipedia is not a place for you to advertise or promote your website, and we are not the Yellow Pages. The website address also violates our external links policy, and our policy on spam. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  15:02, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Why aren't you an administrator?
I suspect it's because no one has yet offered to nominate you, so please accept this offer. I would recommend you find at least one co-nominator though - perhaps someone who can do a deeper dive into your contributions, as my nomination statement will probably be somewhat brief. If you don't want to stand for adminship now, consider this an open offer. Let me know if you want me to write up the nomination. Cheers, – xeno talk 19:54, 26 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the offer! While I have stated (somewhere) that I'm not closed to the idea of becoming an administrator, I would like to decline this offer at this time. The reason being is that, while I have administrator experience, being an admin on three other wikis, and that I am confident with the mop in my hands, I don't feel the !voters at RfA would think the same way. While my anti-vandalism work will probably earn me several supports here and there, oppose !votes will probably be on my relative lack of article development and virtually non-existent participation in AFD, and going through WP:RFA Guide and WP:RFAADVICE, I figured it would be better if I waited a bit longer before being nominated for the mop, maybe a year or so. Of course, if you think differently you're welcome to try and convince me! --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  21:49, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd say you're about as prepared as I was or better, but that was 2008 and attitudes have shifted somewhat. It's ultimately your choice, as I said the offer is open. – xeno talk 22:09, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm glad you feel that I am ready, but maybe it would be better to wait a bit longer before considering adminship. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  22:27, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

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User Name Changing Confirmation
Hello Sir(/Lady)

Name : G.Reza Yahyavi Fakour

May Request Was Correction and Removing 'e' From G.Reza Yahyavi(e) Fakour And Just I Use True Name With True Spelling Form : G.Reza Yahyavi Fakour

Excuse Me, But I don't know k6ka is machine or human ? Elsewhere i send this message. G.Reza Yahyavi Fakour Is My name (Human and No Machine) and I like To Use It As User Name Also.

Very Simple!

Nov 29 14 Thank You. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.138.160.102 (talk) 10:12, 29 November 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm a human. Don't see why I wouldn't be. Also, I can't confirm your request because you are not logged in. Secondly, your request was apparently filed a month ago, but was declined because you failed to respond to one of our questions. Please file another request. I cannot perform renames because I'm not a global renamer, so you must go to one of those venues instead. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  14:04, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Username change request (2)
I was told that the name Gregory Christopher Baggett which I changed from NYC HDFC is already being used. It may be me that created that account but never edited any Wiki content please advise. Is it possible for me to have a name associated with NYC HDFC and one associated with my work as an professor which is different from the work housing advocacy work I do or it it best to usurp the old account and use only one identification when editing and writing Wiki entries. I am new to the technology and is essentially feeling my way through the dark. Gregory. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.255.44.171 (talk) 18:12, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
 * You are currently not logged in. Please remember to log in before editing, so we can verify that it's you. Secondly, please read the response given here, which advises you to go file a request at WP:USURP, which will give you the opportunity to "take over" that existing username. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  19:15, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Vandalism.
Excuse me if this inappropriate, you are my first Wiki experience, which I must add is quite nerve-racking. On reading your user page, liking you have a humourous nature and cleaning  the work of vandals, I wondered if you were aware of the fact the red phone box once in use, in England, now part of England's heritage, are named K6. A snippet of information and you see the connection. Hopefully, I haven't broke any rules, and gives me the confidence I need, to contribute to Wikipedia, Any advice would be very welcome. Apology in advance if I have erred.Justjoe23 (talk) 20:46, 30 November 2014 (UTC)


 * No, I didn't know. That's very interesting. I've never heard of that. Anyway, welcome to Wikipedia! --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  21:13, 30 November 2014 (UTC)