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The Signpost: 02 September 2015

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The statement is very subjective and seems to be rather biased. It is for the reader to make judgements on subejctive or debatable issues. Therefore, please only report objective factual events.
The statement is very subjective and seems to be rather biased. It is for the reader to make judgements on subejctive or debatable issues. Therefore, please only report objective factual events. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.49.175.104 (talk) 19:42, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-37
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available. Recent changes
 * You can now mention up to 50 users in a post and they will get a notification. Previously you could notify up to 20 users.
 * A new version of the Wikidata Toolkit has been released. It now has Wikibase API support.
 * You can now use Wikidata to find all good or featured articles in a Wikipedia version.

Problems
 * There was a problem with Tool Labs due to kernel issues. This has been fixed.
 * The Content Translation tool published some pages with the same reference repeated several times. This has been fixed.

Changes this week
 * The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from September 8. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from September 9. It will be on all Wikipedias from September 10 (calendar).
 * The maximum character length when you search for something on the Wikimedia wikis is now 300 characters.
 * The notifications list has been split into two lists. As a first step, notifications about messages on your user talk page will be placed in the second list. Feedback is requested at the Echo talk page.

Meetings
 * You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on September 8 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * You can join the Wikitech ambassadors mailing list. The list is for Wikimedians interested in spreading information about Wikimedia technology news. See how to join.

Future changes
 * The Wikimedia mailing lists will be moved to a new server and the software will be upgraded. This will happen on September 9 at 14:00 (UTC). The mailing lists will not be working during the move. It can take up to four hours.
 * Wikidata will soon be able to store measurements, such as a mountain's height or the distance between two places.

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Machpela cave
the Wikipedia article on the cave has this information: "Israeli authorities have placed restrictions on calling the faithful to prayer by the muezzin of the Ibrahimi mosque. The order was enforced 61 times in October 2014, and 52 times in December of that year. The reason given is that the call to prayer bothers Jewish settlers in the city." I believe it is unbalanced if it doesn't include the information here. I don't want to add it myself because of my partiality. Could you, please? Nate — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.143.250.253 (talk) 02:57, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

== Hi, I changed the legal to not legal because gay marraige is not yet legal in the state of Kentucky. The state law in Kentucky has not been changed to reflect the Supreme Court decision. 99.26.254.130 (talk) 23:52, 9 September 2015 (UTC) ==

The state law in Kentucky does not allow same sex marriage. Therefore, yes I changed it to do not legal. Please note, that the Supreme Court decision was just that, a decision. It has to be passed through Congress and made state law before it is legal. 23:52, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Revert on EFnet
I don't understand how a lusers output on an IRC search engine translates to actual users on EFnet. Reverting my edit as vandalism makes it seem you have not put forth any thought or research into the area. 2607:B400:B6:3A00:C513:542:206F:F536 (talk) 00:02, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Babylon village
Hello. The demographics content was originally removed from the Babylon village page because the information was actually based on the demographics of the town of Babylon (which has a much higher population), not the village. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dinker022089 (talk • contribs) 03:22, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Edits of Marketing page
[I posted this elsewhere but as a newbie I think it was not the right place... sorry ]

Hi, You undid an edit I'd done of the Marketing page on the basis that I had used the American Marketing Association's definition. I've changed it back but am unsure how to stop it from reverting again as I can see from the Edit history that others have tried to remove the incorrect content without success in the past. I'm a marketing academic in Australasia so an expert in this field but absolutely any introductory marketing textbook would provide a better explanation of marketing than what is/was on the page (and the AMA's definition appears in almost every one of those textbooks).

I'm not a contributor to Wikipedia normally but when I saw how wrong the start of the Marketing page was I had to act. The text that is/was on the page was not about marketing at all. It was about one tiny part of marketing (marketing communications / promotion) so is like defining what a table is by describing one leg. I have enough trouble with my students misunderstanding the field without Wikipedia reinforcing their misunderstandings. I'd welcome your advice on how to edit the page in a way that will 'stick'. Thanks 118.92.163.189 (talk) 10:50, 10 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Welcome to Wikipedia. Before we begin, I'd like to point you to the Introduction page, which will guide you through all the things you need to know about Wikipedia. I'd also like to remind you that we, in fact, have a 'revert limit', called the three revert rule, which promotes discussion such as this one.


 * Now, I think you've misunderstood the page history on the article in question. Most of the (at least recent) reverts seem to be vandalism reverts. Edits like yours are not considered, and are treated differently, than vandalism.


 * Secondly, while Wikipedia is generally a good starting point for research, in no way should it be an ending point, and students and teachers alike should not cite Wikipedia as a source. That's not limited to Wikipedia, since Encyclopedia Britannica is often rejected by professors as well.


 * Thirdly, your edit was also reverted by Bonadea, who mentioned this: We need to present the definition from the point of view of those who are the targets of marketing, not the perpetrators. Marketing is not about filling needs of regular people, it is about companies' needs to sell mo... (cut off at the end). I believe the point here is that the article needs to be written in a neutral point of view, which is usually to include both sides of the argument.


 * And lastly, here's what I say to many, many editors (even some experienced ones): Unfortunately, Wikipedia doesn't look at editor credentials, and it doesn't give more weight or more authority to those that claim to have the academic credentials. Wikipedia looks at citations to prove its content is true, and not its editors alone.


 * --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  11:46, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 09 September 2015

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Tech News: 2015-38
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * You can now use the Wikidata query service.
 * Belarusian-Taraškievica Wikipedia was moved from be-x-old.wikipedia.org to be-tarask.wikipedia.org. This caused some issues, but most of them were resolved.
 * Language preferences might not be changed immediately when you adjust them. Language selection might work slower. Please report any problems.

Problems Changes this week
 * There was a problem when editing International Standard Book Numbers in Visual Editor. This has now been fixed.
 * The Wikimedia mailing lists should have been upgraded on September 9. It didn't work as planned and will now happen later.
 * The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from September 15. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from September 16. It will be on all Wikipedias from September 17 (calendar).

Meetings
 * You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on September 15 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * ContentTranslation will show more data on the Special:ContentTranslationStats page. For example, it will show translation trends and information about deleted translations.
 * The first version of the translation suggestions feature will be deployed soon.

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Thisisc4rlvlogger
Hi there, although I agree that Thisisc4rlvlogger is likely a candidate for speedy deletion, I did want to draw to your attention that tagging an article 60 seconds after creation is a bit bitey and doesn't really assume good faith. This, of course, doesn't apply to things like adverts or attack pages, but generally giving a new user 10+ minutes is a good rule of thumb. -- Non-Dropframe   talk   16:59, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 16 September 2015

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Marvel contest of champion : talk
Hello

You undid a version of the talk page of Marvel Contest of Champion. I was a part of that debat between me and another guy (who did not respect me but old story). With the remove of a guy name Soetermans, it appears that the debat between us was not useful anymore. The information we discussed was just erased on the main page. So, why keep them ? there are other discussion on this page and many unstabilities that the new talk page could be a host. Too much guy edits brutally the main page... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.157.66.190 (talk) 19:51, 20 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Talk pages are archived, not blanked, even if the discussion no longer seems relevant. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  19:55, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Ok, no problem to archive this talk page. I just wanted a page more clear for future debates. How do we proceed ? You do ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.157.66.190 (talk) 19:58, 20 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Just leave it for now. The page is not long or busy enough to warrant regular archival of discussions. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  20:05, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-39
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * There is now an experimental Wikimedia maps service. You can give feedback here.
 * Last week a few issues with UploadWizard were fixed. Before this was done, UploadWizard would stop you from uploading your files if something went wrong.
 * More Wikipedias can now use information from any Wikidata item in any Wikipedia article. Previously they could only use the Wikidata item that matched the subject of the article.
 * The VisualEditor welcome dialogue has been changed. The intention is to make it more helpful for new users.

Problems
 * Wikimedia Labs' HTTPS certificate expired for most of Tuesday 15 September. To reach Wikimedia Labs and Tool Labs securely you had to ignore your browser's security error message. There was no risk to data security during this time.
 * Last week the notification system was split into two parts. This was temporarily undone because of a bug and performance concerns. It will return to two parts this week.
 * UploadWizard couldn't upload files larger than 5 MB when using chunked uploads. This has now been fixed.

Changes this week
 * The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from September 22. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from September 23. It will be on all Wikipedias from September 24 (calendar).
 * The page move tool has been switched over to the new standard look for forms.
 * You can now choose whether to extend a link or not when editing one in VisualEditor. This means it is easier to choose how much of what you type before and after the link is part of it.
 * Wikibooks can now use data from Wikidata.

Meetings
 * You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on 22 September at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * You can join a meeting with the Wikidata team. It will be on September 23 at 17:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * You can register to the Wikimedia Developer Summit 2016 in San Francisco 4–6 January 2016. Gadget, template, bot, and tool developers are welcome as well. Call for participation and travel sponsorship requests are open until 2 October.

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Usurpation request
I made a request in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Changing_username/Usurpations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NewMutants (talk • contribs) 05:05, 22 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Currently there is no official username usurpation policy, but generally only stewards and local bureaucrats may perform usurpations. I am neither, so I don't process usurpation requests. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  11:17, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

On requested clarifications for a name change.
Hello, I made request for a name change from JohnXII to JohnXXII and you answered by saying it was to similar with johnxx11 and asked for a new name, but, Jianhui67 I think, made the change without a problem. My doubt is: Is my account ready to go? Can I start doing translations now or its there something more to clarify/verify?

Thanks.

JohnXXII (talk) 22:46, 24 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, everything is good to go once you've been renamed and all the job queues have finished. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  02:13, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 23 September 2015

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Tech News: 2015-40
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available. Recent changes
 * In UploadWizard, the dialog to see an image preview has been removed. You already see the images in the thumbnails when you upload them.
 * UploadWizard dialogs look a bit different now. They have been updated to the new OOUI look.
 * You can now edit music scores in VisualEditor. You can add new sheet music scores and get live updates when you edit one.
 * When you send an e-mail to another editor using Special:EmailUser, that user will now get a notification on the wiki as well.
 * You can now see 500 images when you upload images from Flickr with UploadWizard. Before this change the limit was 50.
 * The Wikimedia mailing lists have been upgraded.
 * MediaWiki developers spent a day looking at proposed code changes in Gerrit. The goal was to clean up the backlog and give feedback to volunteer developers.

Problems
 * Some visitors had problems reaching the Wikimedia sites for an hour on September 24.

Changes this week
 * The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from September 29. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from September 30. It will be on all Wikipedias from October 1 (calendar).
 * There will be a new beta feature that allows editors to use Flow on their user talkpage if they want to. Each wiki can decide if they want to enable it.
 * The Content Translation tool can give translation suggestions. This feature will now be available in more languages: English, French, Spanish, Russian, Chinese, Turkish, Japanese, Italian, and Catalan.

Meetings
 * You can join the strategy process of the Reading department of Wikimedia Engineering.
 * You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on 29 September at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * The Wikimedia Foundation developers want the community to decide who can use OAuth in the future. You can discuss it on Meta.

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Libellous to state I was the selling the Jillings report
Who the hell said I was selling the Jillings report on E-bay? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DarrenLaverty (talk • contribs) 16:52, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

E-Mail
I have sent a mail. --The Avengers (talk) 15:06, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Untitled
I was do edit but, I think it is come are not checked it is come. I was restore information — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.62.89.34 (talk) 16:47, 30 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I don't understand your comment. Could you please rephrase that? --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  16:51, 30 September 2015 (UTC)