User talk:K6ka/Archives/2016/August

Tech News: 2016-31
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * A prototype for structured data on Commons is available now.
 * The RevisionSlider beta feature can now be tested on mediawiki.org, German Wikipedia, Arabic Wikipedia and Hebrew Wikipedia.

Problems
 * Renamed users on some wikis were not connected to their account on other wikis between 20 July and 21 July. This has been fixed.

Changes this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 August. It will be on all wikis from 4 August (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 2 August at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * The next CREDIT showcase will be on 3 August at 18:00 (UTC). This is to present and comment on new gadgets, small projects and works in progress. See how to join.
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topic this week is "notifications in core". The meeting will be on 3 August at 21:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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User Name Change Stuck
Today is the forth day I can't log in because my username change failed (MB) to complete. Are you sure this hasn't been forgotten? I have no way myself to know what is going on and am totally in the dark. I hope someone is working on resolving this. I am a little surprised it is taking so long. 174.126.250.222 (talk) 17:32, 31 July 2016 (UTC)


 * I've pinged the sysadmin again, and opened a thread at Phabricator here. Sorry that it's taking so long. — k6ka  🍁 ( Talk ·  Contributions ) 18:27, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help. It's been another 28 hours or so and nothing has happened.  I was hoping there would be some immediate intervention to get this fixed like when calling a help desk if you can't log in to your account at a bank or somewhere like that.  But I guess that since this is affecting only one user, it's just not a priority issue. At least I can watch the Phabricator thread you opened and see it is still there awaiting action. 199.104.138.6 (talk) 22:05, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
 * (sorry for the intrusion) I've raised the priority of the task to highest and I hope that someone addresses the issue shortly to finish the rename of your account, letting you log in again. MarcoAurelio (talk) 15:22, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Fixed, I was able to log on today. MB  20:42, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

The Signpost: 04 August 2016
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Tech News: 2016-32
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * In notifications, the icon for has been changed from a speech-bubble icon (Echo chat icon.svg) to a tray icon (OOjs UI icon tray.svg) for consistency. The  icon has been redesigned too. The colors have been changed for accessibility.

Problems
 * If you use the wikEd gadget, changes you made were not kept when you switched from the wikitext editor to the visual editor while you were editing. This has now been fixed.

Changes this week
 * Wikimedia search will now ignore question marks at the end of the sentences or words you use when you search. Until now the question mark was just a wildcard.
 * On Commons, UploadWizard will now be available on mobile, rather than just the old upload form. This should reduce the workload for the community in reviewing images.
 * When you edit with the visual editor a puzzle symbol tells you there is an invisible template in the article. It will now mention the name of the template.
 * The button to read something in another language will move for mobile users. This will happen on 9 August.
 * When someone mentions you and links to your user page you get a notification. You will now get a notification when you mention yourself this way.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 August. It will be on all wikis from 11 August (calendar).
 * A message on Notifications panel will invite users to try Special:Notifications page.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on August 9 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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Tech News: 2016-33
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems
 * Last week Tech News announced you will get a notification when you mention yourself the same way as if someone else had mentioned you. This caused some problems and will happen later instead.
 * Creating and editing links to sections on other pages on the wiki now works again in the visual editor.
 * For some users, cross-wiki notifications haven't been working properly. The count has been wrong when only cross-wiki notifications were present. The cross-wiki bundle has been showing only the names of wikis and not the actual notifications. This will be fixed soon.

Changes this week
 * The login session when you choose "Keep me logged in" will now last a year. Previously it was 30 days. This will happen on August 16.
 * Some abuse filters will have to be updated during the week. This is because a bug will be fixed.
 * In compact language links, two new kinds of languages will be shown in the shorter language list: Languages that are used in the article's text, and languages where the article has a badge like "featured article" or "good article".
 * The visual editor will be available by default for logged-out editors on Wikipedias that use the Arabic script. It is already default for logged-in editors.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from August 16. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from August 17. It will be on all wikis from August 18 (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on August 16 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Starting the week of August 22 there will be three software deployment windows. They will be at 13:00, 18:00, and 23:00 UTC. This is to have more times when software of the wikis can be updated and make it easier for developers in different parts of the world.

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The Signpost: 18 August 2016
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Global rename chase up + query
Hi K6ka, hope you are doing well. I see that the problem with the global renaming process over at meta. However, I just wanted to chase up when my username change would take place, as its gone past the holding date and no objections have been put forward, and what would happen after it takes place. Do I get an email letting me know that I've been renamed? Also, will I be automatically logged out from my computer because of it? Thanks! Class455 (talk) 22:58, 20 August 2016 (UTC)


 * It'll be processed once Cyberpower678 (or another renamer that's willing to do usurpation requests) sees it. When your account is being renamed, you will be logged out of your account, and cannot log in. You can monitor the rename progress at m:Special:GlobalRenameProgress. Once it is complete, you will have to log in to your account using your new username. Lastly, all global renames are logged at m:Special:Log/gblrename. — k6ka  🍁 ( Talk ·  Contributions ) 23:01, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

User talk pages exist with no corresponding registered uers
(You made some of the [//incubator.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Archi38&action=history page] [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Archi38&action=history moves] alluded to in this comment, so that's why I'm asking you about this.)

There are several user_talk pages on gomwiki that don't correspond to any registered user (for details, please see gom:Topic:T9fhvkd5eobmee0y). Most of them obviously are the result of user renames, since evidence of the renaming can still be seen on the Incubator (where the content of gomwiki was before the standalone wiki was created in June 2015), but two cases are unlike the others: there is no evidence (that I can find) that the usernames "Velipranvindra" and "Velipravindr" ever existed on the Incubator, whereas user_talk pages for both exist on gomwiki (but no registered user accounts). The similar username "Velipravindra" exists on gomwiki and Incubator (with contributions to Meta and Commons, as well), but I have no evidence, beyond mere similarity, that these are all the same user.

So, my two questions for you are: Unfortunately, the situation has been somewhat "complicated" by the conversion (in March 2016) to "Flow" talk pages, but as you can see from the existence of the "/Archive_1" subpages, user_talk pages for most of these non-users (supposedly) existed before the Flow conversion.
 * 1) For most of the cases: Why were the user_talk pages moved on the Incubator (and, in almost every case, also on enwiki) but not on gomwiki? Might this be indicative of a problem that will continue to happen in the future?
 * 2) For the other two cases: What do you think is going on with "Velipranvindra" and "Velipravindr"?

I look forward to any insights you can give me about this. - dcljr (talk) 01:34, 22 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Flow definitely seems a bit... effy? I actually know very little about Flow as none of the wikis I frequent use it.


 * In response to your first question: No idea, really. I don't know the process in which a wiki is moved out of the Incubator. What I do know is that, by default, when we rename users, their user and user talk pages, along with any subpages, are automatically moved to the new username, and a redirect is left behind. The global renames are logged at m:Special:Log/gblrename, while the local rename jobs are logged at the Special:Log/renameuser on the local wiki in question. Wouldn't know if the logs or redirect pages or anything in the mixture of confusion are transferred over. I do know that, if the wiki isn't connected to the SUL system, global accounts aren't automatically created on that wiki, and thus global renames would not affect it. Could that be the case?


 * As for your second question, I can find no evidence that the user accounts "Velipranvindra" and "Velipravindr" ever existed anywhere in the first place.


 * If this gets technical, you may want to start a thread at Phabricator where people who know the technical ins-and-outs of the system can give you a more helpful answer. — k6ka  🍁 ( Talk ·  Contributions ) 01:53, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-34
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The ORES review tool is now available on Special:Contributions as a beta feature. It can make it easier to find contributions that are probably damaging the wikis. The ORES review tool is available on Wikidata and Persian, Polish, Portuguese, Dutch, Turkish and Russian Wikipedia.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The  and   functions have been updated to make it easier to write abuse filters. This also affects the TitleBlacklist extension. You don't have to transform "I" and "L" to "1", "O" to "0" and "S" to "5" anymore.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The old pageview data in the "pagecounts-raw" and "pagecounts-all-sites" files is no longer being updated. You can find the new pageview data here. This happened on August 5.

Problems
 * Some big image files could not be thumbnailed. This has now been fixed.
 * When you moved a page over a redirect it would delete the redirect without saving it in the logs. This has now been fixed.

Changes this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 August. It will be on all wikis from 25 August (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 23 August at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Sometimes when you mention another user they don't get a notification. You will be able to get a notification when you successfully sent out a mention to someone or be told if they did not get a notification. This will be opt-in. You can test this on the test wiki.
 * How you add text after an edit conflict might work in a different way in the future. You can test the prototype.

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Banned on IRC
Hey, k6ka. I was wondering why I (Gestrid-mobile) was banned on IRC. I believe the channel was #wikipedia-en. If I'm not mistaken, you are a Chanop, are you not? -- Gestrid (talk) 23:53, 22 August 2016 (UTC)


 * No, I'm not a chanop so I can't help you there. To find a list of chanops for #wikipedia-en, do /msg ChanServ access #wikipedia-en list and look for users with the +o flag. — k6ka  🍁 ( Talk ·  Contributions ) 01:27, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-35
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Wikimedia mobile sites now don't load images if the user doesn't see them. This is to save mobile data and make the pages load faster.
 * When you edit a table with the visual editor, pressing  in the last cell of a row will take you to the first cell in the next row. Pressing   and   in the first cell of a row will take you to the last cell in the previous row.

Changes this week
 * The name of the " " button will change. The button will say "  " when you create a new page. It will say "  " when you change an existing page.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 31 August. It will be on all wikis from 1 September (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 30 August at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topic this week is "RfC: image and oldimage tables". The meeting will be on 31 August at 21:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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