User talk:KARLOS39

US 12 terminus in Detroit
Sorry, U.S. Route 12 in Michigan hasn't terminated anywhere near Campus Martius in almost 20 years. It was scaled back from Woodward and Jefferson to end at Michigan and Griswold in 2001, and further to Michigan and Cass in 2005.  Imzadi 1979  →   23:14, 1 November 2018 (UTC)


 * It exactly terminates at Campus Martius Park. You sound like you haven’t been to Detroit in 20 years KARLOS39 (talk) 23:18, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Use google maps you clown KARLOS39 (talk) 23:20, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
 * According to the Michigan Department of Transportation, no, US 12 doesn't terminate at Campus Martius. Michigan Avenue may terminate there, but east of Cass Avenue, Michigan Avenue is not part of US 12. If you look on the MDOT Physical Reference Finder, zoom in to that section of Detroit and click the "trunkline" button, you'll see that no trunkline highways run through Campus Martius. US 12 ends at Michigan and Cass, M-85 ends at Fort and Griswold, and M-1 ends at Woodward and Adams. M-3 turns off Gratiot onto Randolph and ends at Jefferson. In any case, I was in that area of Downtown Detroit just last week on Monday the 22nd.  Imzadi 1979  →   23:35, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Fake News
Sounds like you are reading outta some pamphlet and have never actually walked the streets of Downtown Detroit. KARLOS39 (talk) 23:38, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
 * As I noted, Michigan Avenue itself ends at Campus Martius in Downtown Detroit. I'm not disputing that. However, US 12 itself, the highway designation, ends at the intersection with Cass Avenue. East of Cass, Michigan Avenue is just Michigan Avenue. It's owned by the City of Detroit, not the Michigan Department of Transportation. Because it's under the control of the city there, it's not a state highway and it can't be part of US 12.  Imzadi 1979  →   23:48, 1 November 2018 (UTC)