User talk:KAVEBEAR/Archive 2

Royal Coat of Arms of Hawaii request
Dear Kavebear,

Firstly I would like to apologize for the delay, there is absolutely no excuse for making you wait for so long without replying to your request. Secondly I will be uploading the other version (the one depicted on the gates of the palace) very soon. If I made a mistake or if you want anything altered please feel free to leave me a message, Sorry again. Regards, Sodacan (talk) 18:15, 18 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks a whole lot. This coat of arm is perfect.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 18:31, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Do you have anymore information on the coat of arms? if there are enough sources we could start: Royal Coat of Arms of Hawaii, that would be awesome. Sodacan (talk) 18:38, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Plenty but I don't have the currently with all my schoolwork.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 18:41, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem, completely understand! I know only a little bit about Hawaiian history, did not know the supporters on either side were actual historical figures, and twins for that matter. Just thought that they were ordinary Koa warriors. Sodacan (talk) 18:47, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The stripes on the lower right part of the shield seems to be different. It is suppose to end in blue like this one with nine stripes there and eight on the top left. Nine or ten stripes still disagrees with all the rest of the coats of arms. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 19:11, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Sodacan (talk) 19:19, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Also if you are ever feeling like you want to do some more there are different versions of this coat of arms on the online Iolani Palace collection.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 19:16, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure, I am drawing this version, which is also the one on the palace gates, should be finished soon. Sodacan (talk) 19:23, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay. The one on palace invitation is the one I had more in mind; this or this. It's Kalakaua's much more imperial and grandiose version.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 20:46, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I will make that one instead. Sodacan (talk) 02:56, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Uploaded the second one, the grand Kalakaua coat of arms is coming soon. Question, I am assuming that the order on this coat of arms is the Order of Kamehameha I?. Sodacan (talk) 16:07, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks it looks great. Yes, it is the order of Kamehameha I, Knight Grand Cross, seen here. Also do consider both link when creating it, I would trust the Iolani Palace this link also.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 20:52, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Could you improve these two images File:Crown of Hawaii.svg and File:Princess Kaiulani Flag (1875-1899).svg by adding your version of the crown and coat of arms to it? And could you please touch up the drawing of the cronw on File:Kuhina Nui flag.svg? Thanks.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 20:52, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Also one last thing, what is your opinion on the skin tone? --KAVEBEAR (talk) 21:13, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I will upload a new version of the crown and those flags. As for the skin tone, I don't really have an opinion, I have made it (in my view at least) the most 'realistic' it could be. So it's probably better if you just give me some advice instead! the colours are easily changed so it's not a big deal if you wanted it altered. Also I now have a copy of: 'Hawaii's great seal and coat of arms' by Meiric K. Dutton, 1960, so I might start expanding on the Seal of Hawaii soon. Sodacan (talk) 03:00, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Last one done! Sodacan (talk) 12:52, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Attributs du service de table
The phrase doesn't make much sense without more context. It could mean something like "properties of the tableware of the Gambier king and of the mission". Attribut can also mean "symbolic sign", so it could refer to some sort of marking on the dishes and other pieces that indicate they belong to the king or to the mission. --Xuxl (talk) 17:58, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Now that I've seen your link, the second explanation is the right one. The two designs are those used on the king and mission's tableware to identify them. See for example this Unites States presidential table ware with the seal in the middle. --Xuxl (talk) 06:07, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Agapa
"Mise au blanc" is not a common expression anymore, but it could have been in the 19th century. It could literally mean that she started wearing white 7 years before, but I don't know what significance this would have. The rest of the paragraph makes it sound that this about wearing white, because "everyone wanted to wear white at her funeral even though black was the usual mourning color". There's a reference to her father having the same disease as the princess, so it may also mean that she was hospitalized for seven years (white is a color often associated with hospitals). --Xuxl (talk) 18:52, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 18:56, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

''Maputeoa mourut le 23 juin 1857 laissant 5 enfants dont l'aîné Joseph n'avait que 10 ans. Une régence fut exercée par Marie-Eudoxie, la femme de Maputeoa, jusqu'à sa mort en 1869. Il ne restait alors que deux filles et le gouvernement resta pratiquement aux mains de la Mission.'' Translation: Maputeoa died on June 23, 1857, leaving 5 children, with the eldest Joseph being only 10 years old. The regency was exercised by Marie-Eudoxie, Maputeoa's wife, until her death in 1869. There remained only two daughters and the government was left almost entirely at the hands of the Mission (i.e., the Mission practically ran the government by itself). --Xuxl (talk) 06:03, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I have found a few sources talking more about the situation. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 06:06, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Mangareva sketches follow-up
Hi Kavebear, a PS to my answer on the Reference Desk for your purposes of dating the portraits. I read a bit more of Captain Dumont d'Urville's book. In the sketch, the man on the right, Mabou Kouike, is not mentioned in the book at all. The man on the left, Mapouteoa (sometimes spelled Mapou-teoa) and his uncle are first met by Dumont D'Urville on Aug 6, 1838. (p. 151) Their descriptions match the sketches: Mapou-teoa as wearing "a blue riding coat, with shirt, trousers and hat" and his uncle as 190 cm tall and "wearing only a shirt." 184.147.138.101 (talk) 12:07, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! --KAVEBEAR (talk) 15:25, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Life Magazine Special
Hi, I can send you the full text of:



in html format, which I believe will fulfil your request at WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request/Archive_26. Please use Special:EmailUser to email me so that I can reply with the article as an attachment. Regards, Worldbruce (talk) 04:12, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Request that the source be sent to my email as well please .--Mark Miller (talk) 07:39, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * The article is on its way to Kavebear. If they know your email they can forward it to you, otherwise just send me an email as above, and I'll reply with the article attached. Worldbruce (talk) 08:20, 21 December 2015 (UTC)


 * What pages was this article on? I don't think you can send me the images I'm guessing since they are copyrighted. Let me know the pages so I can submit an interlibrary loan request at my library for scan copies of the article.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 15:07, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Alas, Factiva doesn't indicate the original page numbers (or include the photos that went with the story). Now that you have the date and title, could you obtain the page range from the 1998 Reader's Guide to Periodical Literature? If that isn't feasible, a library in my area has a physical copy of the issue. I could scan it, although it might not be until the new year. Let me know if you need me to try. Worldbruce (talk) 16:10, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * That would be awesome if you can do that. And I am in no hurries. Thank you for the help!--KAVEBEAR (talk) 16:13, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, although the library catalog says they have every issue of Life, two are in fact missing, and this is one of them. So I'm afraid I can't supply the pictures after all, sorry. Worldbruce (talk) 18:37, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Frederick William Kahapula Beckley Jr.
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Lunalilo family tree listed at Redirects for discussion
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DYK for Kepelino
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DYK for Prince Romerson
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DYK for Paul Kanoa
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DYK for Frederick William Kahapula Beckley Jr.
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DYK for Frederick William Kahapula Beckley Sr.
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DYK for Mikhail Tikhanov
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DYK for S. N. Haleʻole
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Joseph Kaiponohea ʻAeʻa
Aloha, Not going to edit the article myself just before its DYK appearance for fear of messing up the refs, but you might consider moving the "didn't marry or have children" sentence to *before* the "died and was mourned" sentence. He wasn't going to get married after he was dead, after all. Awien (talk) 16:42, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Done. Mahalo!--KAVEBEAR (talk) 18:54, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Lydia Kaʻonohiponiponiokalani Aholo
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DYK for Joseph Kaiponohea ʻAeʻa
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DYK for John ʻAimoku Dominis
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DYK for Nalesoni Laifone
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DYK for ʻUelingatoni Ngū
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DYK for Lunalilo Mausoleum
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DYK for Miriam Auhea Kekāuluohi Crowningburg
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Your GA nomination of Mary Polly Paaaina
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DYK for William P. Ragsdale
— Maile (talk) 08:12, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

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DYK for Mary Polly Paaaina
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Effecting
In academia, it's perfectly acceptable and even the done thing to "silently" (i.e. without comment) correct obvious slips / typos like this. Awien (talk) 00:48, 16 August 2016 (UTC) (In other words, I checked the source, saw that the error originated there, but judged it appropriate to silently correct it so as not to be perpetuating a misspelling). Awien (talk) 01:19, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
 * How about inserting [sic]? I don't think it is appropriate to silently correct misspelling in direct quotations.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 01:24, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
 * It really is ok to correct that kind of trivial slip - but sic is better than nothing. It's definitely not good to do that to a living writer, though. Drawing attention to a spelling mistake really comes across as obnoxious or hostile. Awien (talk) 01:34, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of George Luther Kapeau
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(Talk page stalker here): Do you mind if I do a light copyedit for typos etc.? Awien (talk) 13:07, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Sure. Thanks, --KAVEBEAR (talk) 14:48, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I had a quick look at your sources, and propose something along these lines as a clarification of the porcelain incident. See what you think.
 * In 1848, Kapeau contravened the treaty under which the Roman Catholic priests were entitled to import porcelain duty-free by sending tax assessors to attempt to collect taxes on the goods. The actions of the assessors resulted in the smashing of the china, leading the French consul to lodge a complaint over the incident to Admiral de Tromelin, commander of a French warship . ..
 * Aloha, Awien (talk) 18:06, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Changed. Thanks.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 18:20, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Btw, I don't know which island you're from/on, but here's a little DYK: Did you know that on the little pebbly beach at Onomea Bay on the Big Island, a person can still find scraps of blue and white Chinese porcelain said to be from a long-ago shipwreck. Presumably not from Mr. Kapeau's incident, though! Awien (talk) 19:41, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of George Luther Kapeau
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Your GA nomination of George Luther Kapeau
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 * Aha! Congrats! Awien (talk) 19:46, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Formatting
I support the use of short citations and the formatting of the links to the full source information, but I do prefer the more common use of section headers (especially when all three reference sections are used; Note, Citations and References. Excellent work in reformatting the existing citations and references.--Mark Miller (talk) 22:06, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't support the use of citation. It sounds naive. There is nothing wrong with bibliography it is the formal way to refer to an academic list of sources used especially in history. It would be better if we compare to existing section headings of historical queens for an example moving forward especially feature articles. I won't argue for now but I don't like the suggested headings.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 22:14, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
 * We follow the Wikipedia MOS as well as other guidelines for this purpose.--Mark Miller (talk) 22:22, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Lavinia Veiongo
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HarvErrors
I'm guessing you don't have the script User:Ucucha/HarvErrors installed on your .js I have it on mine, and when a formatting error happens on citations, I see big red error messages. And what I'm seeing after the recent Kuykendall citations is "Harv error: link from #CITEREFKuykendall doesn't point to any citation." Probably because no date is on the individual citatiions. I think you'd find this HarvErrors script useful to you in the long run. — Maile (talk) 18:44, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Template:Sfnm
In my quest to clean up small stuff in anticipation of reviews, I've always wondered if it was possible to combine multiple sfn citations into one when they are from different sources. You probably knew all this, but I didn't. I looked at Template: Sfnm and gave it a try. It worked! So down in the citations section it shows as combining them on one line. If that makes sense to you, or if you are even interested in that. — Maile (talk) 15:56, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I think that is a great idea. I haven't look into it yet but it will help with the footnote portions. It always looks sloppyhaving that many sources and I know reviewers always have problems with over citations. This makes it look more a scholarly in the long run. Does it work with bundling cite web and cite news or only just sfn? --KAVEBEAR (talk) 17:55, 3 October 2016 (UTC)


 * I haven't quite figured that part out. I did it on other articles if I didn't use any sfn template at all. In fact, I abandoned the sfn template so I could bundle them all.  Like this: ref>Roberts (1993), pp. 344–345; Seale (1992), pp. 245, 247; </ref  On one of my past articles, I finally went through and swapped the sfn formatting for the plain formatting.  — Maile  (talk) 18:10, 3 October 2016 (UTC)


 * We can also use your method and Template:harvnb as well so there are links. But I think reference clean up should come later, closer to when we want to get to GA or FA status.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 18:20, 3 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Also, unless you have a fondness for GA, I think we could go directly to the FAC process. You've been there enough times.  Going through the backlog of GA on this one just delays it several months.  I'm somewhat disillusioned with GA because of that, and because of other issues. I haven't put my own articles through GA for years because the clog is so painful. — Maile  (talk) 18:28, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * True we can just do that. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 21:13, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Sālote Lupepauʻu
Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

DYK for James Kaliokalani
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You've got mail!
--Cameron11598 (Talk) 21:14, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Do you still want access to this database? If you would like access, you need to complete the forum that was sent to you. Right now your application is . If I don't receive a response win the next 2 days I'll mark it as Thanks! --Cameron11598 (Talk) 02:49, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I just filled out the Google form. I didn't realized they was a second part.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 03:08, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --Cameron11598 (Talk) 03:47, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Dalry, Edinburgh
Good day, thank you for your comment with regards my DYK for this page. I have amended the DYK type and expanded the article five times within the last seven days. I would greatly appreciate if you could take a look and revise your comment if it meets with all the DYK criteria. If I need to do anything else, please let me know. Thanks. LordHarris 23:18, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Mexico family tree
Template:Mexico family tree has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Frietjes (talk) 22:38, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Newspapers.com
Are you still interested I haven't received a response to the e-mail I sent you --Cameron11598 (Talk) 15:15, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello, but I've activated the account already. Thanks.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 19:42, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Project MUSE
I just got my subscription this morning. You, too? Regarding Kalaupapa A Collective Memory (Ka Hokuwelowelo), when you use MUSE they have different ISBN and OCLC. The one you used from WorldCat does not match. Bring up that book on MUSE, and click on the tab "Book Details". You should see E-ISBN, Print ISBN and OCLC, the one MUSE uses for its particular edition. MUSE is a really interesting site, I think. — Maile (talk) 20:32, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've made the corrections. How do you generate the correct isbn format?
 * I just enter the bare isbn code for now. I think we can expand more on the regency section and about the visit(s). Also have you looked at An American Girl in the Hawaiian Islands: Letters of Carrie Prudence Winter, 1890-1893? --KAVEBEAR (talk) 20:41, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I saw the Letters of Carrie Prudence Winter and sort of scanned through it. Fascinating.  I could spend a lot of time browsing through MUSE.  A lot of specifics I want are not there, sources for the talk page supporting articles section.  But so much is at MUSE, I'm kind of liking it pretty much right now. — Maile  (talk) 20:48, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
 * What tools do you use to generate ISBN codes? I need this skill for other sources I have been using as well.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 21:01, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Just to be clear, it's a tool that puts dashes into ISBN numbers that are already there. It's called autoFormatter.  Look at my common.js.  The bottom line that begins with "mw.loaded"  Copy that entire line and put it on your .js file.  Then, whenever you open your edit window, there should be a tool that looks like a little yellow broom. In my edit window, it's in the upper left side next to the Bold and Italics tools. If you click on that broom, it puts the dashes in where ISBN numbers are already on the article page. — Maile  (talk) 21:10, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Charles E. King (vol. 2, 1921).jpg
I think the parentheses are messing up something. I can go over to Commons and find it. But it doesn't click through from the article. And if I just say "open in a new tab", it goes to a blank page on Commons headed Charles E. King vol. 2, 1921 .jpg without the parentheses and no image. — Maile (talk) 22:40, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
 * https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Charles_E._King_(vol._2,_1921).jpg


 * Try that link. It goes to a blank page. — Maile  (talk) 22:42, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
 * commons:File:Charles E. King (vol. 2, 1921).jpg Is there a possible loading error on your end? Try the commons category link on the article page to go to category. Do you see four images?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 22:44, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
 * https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Charles_E._King


 * It might in part be Firefox. But if I click on the link with IE, it still doesn't take me to Commons.  It opens the image as a meta file https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_E._King#/media/File:Charles_E._King_(vol._2,_1921).jpg
 * It might be. I am using Safari.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 22:51, 28 October 2016 (UTC)


 * I guess we could leave it like it is, and try to get it moved to another name if other people are having trouble with it. — Maile  (talk) 23:04, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Have you tried finding it in a roundabout way? i. e. Go to commons.wikipedia.org in general and search Charles E. King or go to my contributions to find the link. Parentheses are pretty common in file names on Wiki commons. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 23:13, 28 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Yeah, actually, that's how I found it the first time. I was just thinking of DYK reviewers.  I hadn't planned on doing another DYK nomination, but since you are contributing to this, we could co-nominate one.  How about this:

... that composer Charles E. King (pictured) was taught music by Queen Liliuokalani, and at her funeral led a choir in her composition "Aloha ʻOe" as her catafalque was carried out of Iolani Palace? — Maile (talk) 23:21, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah sure. But you don't need to mention me, in general I don't like taking credit for DYK unless I've done significant edits to an article which I don't considered what I did as. However, I can help answer any relevant review concern for you if you want once you nominate it. I like the hook. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 23:27, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Ahn
Hi! I've answered all the feedback at Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know, in the event you are interested in reviewing and responding. ScooterSponson (talk) 21:51, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

DYK for ʻAnaseini Takipō
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Paul Nahaolelua
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject United States/The 50,000 Challenge
--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:37, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Paul Nahaolelua
Hello:

The copy edit that you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Paul Nahaolelua has been completed.

You will notice that I archived one of the article’s citations (#1). I suggest you archive the rest of the article’s URLs as time allows. This ensures that the article's references are available "forever" and that it doesn’t develop “dead links” over time. The site I use is https://archive.org/web/. Simply copy the URL in the citation and paste it in the “Save Page Now” box on the archive.org site and click "save". This creates a copy of the original page and provides you with a new URL to add to the original citation. If you look at the URL I've archived you'll see the syntax. You add the new URL to the end of the original citation like this: |archiveurl=http etc|archivedate=November 8, 2016}}. Not all websites allow archiving - CBS TV news and the NY Times are two I've come across, so there's not much you can do about that unless there is an alternate citation you could use.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 15:21, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Marie Gabriel Georges Bosseront d'Anglade
— Maile (talk) 01:12, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

rx
Just making sure you got the pings regarding Thrum's Hawaiian Annual and Aleksei Vysheslavtsev 1862 edition. - NQ (talk)  18:04, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Arthur Peterson
Thanks for telling me. I was just getting started on Peterson, but I'll let you do here. Here's as far as I got: 19:28, 12 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Retired from office of Deputy Attorney General in March 1890 to return to private law practice
 * April, he was appointed Notary Public for the First Judicial Circuit of the Kingdom of Hawaii.;
 * King Kalākaua appointed Peterson as his Attorney General on June 18.

Joseph Heleluhe
I am starting the article on Joseph Heleluhe right now. There was a "J. H. Heleluhe" in the Hawaiian legislature in the 1850s and 1860s. Do you know who this is? Was it his father?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 22:22, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Don't exactly know. Earlier I was looking through Chronicling America and saw that. So far, I have not been able to link the two, but it makes sense that they would be related. Below are some random references I otherwise found on him when I posted his witness of L's annexation protest. So far, I haven't found anybody but Joseph by the name Heleluhe on Find a Grave. — Maile (talk) 22:44, 11 November 2016 (UTC)


 * One of his earliest appearances on a ship's manifest as part of L's entourage was February 20, 1884, bound for Kauai.
 * (second column from left, near the top)


 * He acted as an agent for her personal land holdings, leasing properties and collecting rents.
 * (one column from the right, third item down)
 * (middle of the page)


 * Heleluhe was one of the signers of a petition asking King Kalākaua to call a constitution convention.
 * (first column on the left)


 * He accompanied the Queen on her return visit to Molokai in 1891.
 * (second column from left)



Who was M. K. Keohokālole?
I'm starting to put the Colburn article together at User:Maile66/Sandbox, at least as far as separating out the sourcing. Kapiolani estate was incorporated as Kapiolani Estate, Limited. As far as I can tell, this is where Colburn steps into the picture on her estate; he was elected as Treasurer. It also lists M. K. Keohokālole as secretary and auditor, and I don't know who that was. — Maile (talk) 21:16, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Morris Kahai Keohokalole. He is pictured here with John Wise which is part of a photograph collection at the archive associated with Prince Kuhio. Although he shared the same name as Liliuokalani's mother, he was only remotely related to the Queen and was a descendant of Kamehamehanui Ailuau (son of Kekaulike and brother of the famous Kahekili II). This also indicates some connection with Kuhio.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 22:33, 8 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks. — Maile (talk) 22:58, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
 * This has lot of info about him and others related to the Kapiolani Estates.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 23:26, 8 November 2016 (UTC)


 * This is good information. I started off thinking I'd be lucky if I got a stub article out of Colburn.  But he's so inter-connected with the royal family and other areas, that it's going to be a bigger article.  Also, I can see where once I get things sorted out and written about the estates, the Kapiolani and Liliuokalani articles can be added to a bit. He was also involved with the estate of Judge Antone Rosa, that dragged out for years. — Maile  (talk) 23:45, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Have you check the Blount and Morgan Reports for more info about Colburn. In the Morgan Report, there is this line "Mr. Widemann told me that he could not go into the cabinet with such a man as Colburn, and declined, and so the office of minister of finance was given to Cornwell." in the "Statement of A. F. Judd". Also are you having trouble searching terms in books on Google Books? I've been noticing that lately on my end, for example tell me what you see here. -KAVEBEAR (talk) 03:25, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I can see the Google book you linked just fine. I haven't been much searching in Google Books on Colburn, because I'm still making my way through Chronicling America. There's a lot to search through on Colburn. I don't have an account with Google Books so I often get a search return that only shows one page, or shows me what I want and later in the day won't show it and is telling me I exceeded my limit (or whatever the message is).  Consequently, Google Books is on the bottom rung of what I normally use for searches.  Also, my previous content creation in Hawaii usually dealt with 20th or 21st century matters, so your editing background of the last few years has given you different instincts in how to conduct a search in the area we are editing now. Haven't gotten to the Blount and Morgan reports yet.  Colburn seems to have been involved in a lot of Hawaii history of that time period. — Maile  (talk) 13:13, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I mean I can't even search basic terms in public domain books anymore that's the problem and I'm not sure if that is a problem with Google Books or my google settings.KAVEBEAR (talk) 13:41, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh. Well, the book you linked with the search term for Colburn shows me at the top "No results found in this book for Colburn", and yet it yellow highlighted Colburn every time it appears on pp 443 and 444.  At the upper right the where the arrows are to flip through pages, the page number is sort of grayed out but I can still read it.  Maybe it's not you. — Maile  (talk) 13:53, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
 * It's not you or your system. I just tried to do a search on the book above, with names I saw on that page.  It malfunctioned and told me "no results".  It's not you. — Maile  (talk) 16:37, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

You should use this source; it's currently in the further reading section of Liliuokalani's article. I understand Thurston Twigg-Smith has a noted bias as an apologist for the Overthrow especially his ancestor Thurston, but his book is a good source on the poisonous political climate in the Kingdom at the time of the Overthrow. There a lot of unbiased material that we can use including the fact that Colburn and Parker were chosen to satisfied the Hawaiian community and Peterson and Cornwell for their American connections.....Colburn and the rest of the Parker cabinet were not viewed as the most trustworthy of politicians for the Queen to have chosen on January 13, and they did not fully support her decisions either. There were many internal problems with the legislature (even the Native Hawaiian members who opposed her), her cabinet members, and the Euro-American community that led to the Overthrow which always make me reluctant to believe the modern narrative that it is solely rooted in American imperialism.




 * Agree. The more layers I peel away on Colburn, the more questions arise. He must have been a lawyer. I haven't found anything yet on his education or legal profession.  But he certainly is one of the more litigious individuals in the story, on one side or the other of numerous lawsuits that come up in the newspapers, and the representative for estates of people you never heard of.  I was also coming away with the impression that perhaps he mostly acted in self-interest, as did many on the scene. — Maile  (talk) 22:31, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

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Antone Rosa etal
Thanks for the image; I had not used it because of what it says on the source at Commons. I ran into brief mentions in my research that he probably had more of an association with Liliuokalani than I was able to tie down to anything substantive for the article. One of those facets is that he may have been involved in an advisory capacity to her when the overthrow was about to take place, or soon afterwards.

I'm starting to get fascinated by the discovery process as we uncover one figure and then another in the overall story. You might even call them a band of brothers who weren't always on the side of all issues, but where one shows up the others do also. And the more figures we create articles for, the more we see the various factors affecting Liliuokalani's journey. — Maile (talk) 19:06, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah definitely. The online collection at the state archives make a lot of mistakes, but the identification with Rosa comes from Kuykendall who was using the collection before they digitized it. The stories of these figures definitely adds to the story and expands the narrative of the queen.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 19:10, 18 November 2016 (UTC)


 * So, I'm thinking...if you don't delete what I just inserted...Rosa and Colburn must have been a couple of fun guys who drank a little too much now and then. Again, I hadn't been planning on doing a DYK with this article, because I didn't see anything that would work.  However...
 * ... that retired Kingdom of Hawaii Attorney General Antone Rosa drove his automobile into a fish market because his friend former Interior Minister John F. Colburn told him it wasn't against the law?


 * And if I do this, do you want co-author credits since you've done a lot of editing on this article? — Maile (talk) 02:08, 19 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Interesting hook. It should be fine. And yeah sure.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 02:21, 19 November 2016 (UTC)


 * As I re-read the source, Colburn didn't tell him it wasn't against the law. That was their mutual defense when arrested.  Not quite as nifty.  Perhaps


 * ALT1 ... that retired Kingdom of Hawaii Attorney General Antone Rosa (pictured) and former Interior Minister John F. Colburn were arrested for driving their carriage into a fish market, but hadn't broken a law?


 * ALT2... that from an estate valued at $8,000, the widow of retired Kingdom of Hawaii Attorney General Antone Rosa (pictured) received $10 a week?


 * ALT3... that Kingdom of Hawaii Attorney General Antone Rosa (pictured) had served as Deputy Clerk of the Supreme Court before he ever attended law school?

You're welcome to come up with any hooks on this. — Maile (talk) 14:32, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I think "...that retired Kingdom of Hawaii Attorney General Antone Rosa (pictured) and former Interior Minister John F. Colburn were arrested for driving their carriage into a fish market?" is quirky enough. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 21:45, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. — Maile (talk) 23:23, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

DYK for George Naea
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New Challenge for Oceania and Australia
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Challenges
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DYK nomination of John Dominis Holt, II
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John outhouse
Earlier today you commented on Template:Did you know nominations/John Outhouse that since it was 6 months old, it could not be a dyk. While that is usually the case, Im submitting this for the April fools day dyk. For that, the article need only be written in the year preceding the April fools day it's nominated for, which this was. That is the exception to the rule. See wp:dykapril for more information.

Please remove your comments on the John outhouse nomination.

Thank you. Margalob (talk) 00:01, 27 November 2016 (UTC) Margalob (talk) 00:01, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

HathiTrust
You asked me about a month ago if I had full access to either of the two books you found on the Chiefs' Children's School. I just found one of them with complete access at HathiTrust, fully searchable and brings up 10 pages that mention Liliuokalani. Perhaps you already knew. No subscription required for Hathi. — Maile (talk) 15:53, 27 November 2016 (UTC)



DYK for Joseph Heleluhe
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DYK for Edward William Purvis
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Reference desk question
KAVEBEAR, hi.

Just a quick note to let you know that the misleading reply to your question about Mangareva and the Gambier Islands was by a long-term reference desk vandal, VoteX. I've deleted the reply and your response - apologies for any inconvenience. Tevildo (talk) 07:14, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 07:14, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * You should know that Tevildo is a subtle troll who specialises in misinforming querents then launches WP:NPAs against editors when they call him out.

Example 1:

Tevildo's misrepresentation:

It's not strictly fraud, as (currently) a policy can be avoided for a material misrepresentation even if the representation was not dishonest. The Insurance Act 2015 will change this, so only actual fraud will be sufficient (of itself) to be grounds for avoidance. This article may prove informative (if not exactly interesting). Of course, for reliable advice about insurance or any other legal issue, one should contact an appropriate professional. Tevildo (talk) 18:16, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Correct answer:

It's surprising that Tevildo says that the ability of insurers to avoid a contract in the event of innocent misrepresentation of a material fact is to be abrogated. Perhaps he could cite the relevant clause of the legislation. It's not a question of insurers "using their brains" when underwriting a risk. Insurance contracts are contracts of indemnity, which means that the insured is put in the same position after the loss as he was before. I can't see that there is any objection to insuring against a medical procedure going wrong. 86.131.187.216 (talk) 13:04, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Example 2:

Tevildo's misrepresentation:

I think that's probably the most likely explanation. Joseph's gravestone here gives his date of birth as "22d of February OS. A.D. 1725". Assuming the 5 February date for James Otis's birth is NS, he was born one year and 28 days before his brother - 5 February 1725 NS = 25 January 1724 OS. Tevildo (talk) 20:40, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Correct answer:

According to our article, James Otis Jr was older than his brother Joseph. Both Wikipedia and Encyclopaedia Britannica give his birth date as 5 February 1725, which would have been recorded on his birth certificate as 1724 or 1724/5. He died on 23 May 1783 at 58. Joseph was born on 22 February 1725 "Old Style" according to the tombstone, which suggests that that (or 1725/6) was recorded on his birth certificate. Thus his year of birth would have been 1726 according to us. No way could James have been born in what we would call 1724. Joseph's tombstone mentions that he died on Sunday, 21 September 1810 at the age of 85 years and six months. That appears to me to be a mechanical conversion, and that he was actually 84 when he died. In any event, the tombstone may not be contemporary - 21 September 1810 was not Sunday in either old or new style. 62.30.204.247 (talk) 17:36, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

There are many more examples. 92.8.216.67 (talk) 17:31, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * If it needs to be said, the above posting is also by VoteX. I won't delete it, as this is your talk page, but it is a good example of their behaviour. Tevildo (talk) 06:46, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Zorobabela Kaauwai
A draft doesn't have to be "done" to be moved to mainspace; it just has to be done enough, which this one clearly is (it is much more developed than many other stubs). It serves the reader to have this information in mainspace whether it can be further improved there or not. bd2412 T 17:20, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I will be able to finish it today or tomorrow. Please be patient.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 17:21, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Very well, then. bd2412  T 17:24, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

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Template:Did you know nominations/Robert Mnuchin
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DYK for Ferdinand William Hutchison
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DYK for Lahilahi Webb
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DYK for Tony Ahn
All the issues at Template_talk:Did_you_know for Tony Ahn have been resolved, and we're just waiting for you to come back and give it another once-over, if you're willing. The other editor did some extensive editing on the article and so doesn't want to do the approval as well. ScooterSponson (talk) 14:10, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure about the article or changes anymore and I think it would be better to have another reviewer do a new review.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 19:20, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

MUSE
Can you login on MUSE today? On my system, the login page doesn't exist. When I try I get "Authentication Attempt Failed". I can search on MUSE, which doesn't require a login. I can view much HTML content. But "verification" to see pdf files requires a login, and it won't let me do that. I left an email to Nikkimaria about this also. — Maile (talk) 17:49, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
 * It works fine for me.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 18:20, 2 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Well this is strange. OK.  I've filed an error report with MUSE. — Maile  (talk) 18:28, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually it is no longer working for me as well.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 22:42, 2 December 2016 (UTC)


 * I didn't have your talk page on watch and missed your last reply. You might want to add your name to WT:Project MUSE Authentication Attempt Failed so Nikkimaria can add you to whatever she is doing with this.  Something odd about the MUSE page.  The login page is missing, redirects. — Maile  (talk) 01:45, 6 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Well...MUSE just let me login. But it won't let me log out.  If I close my browser, that logs me out automatically.  But there doesn't seem to be any other way to log out.  And I don't see anything to let me change my password.  Not a very secure site. — Maile  (talk) 01:51, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

William Nevins Armstrong
So we don't accidentally both start the same articles independently, I'm working on William Nevins Armstrong. I've been wanting to do an article on him since I created Richard Armstrong (Hawaii). But I didn't have much in the way of source knowledge back then. I just checked out from the library "Around The World With A King" and look forward to reading it over the next several weeks.

Regarding S. E. Bishop, it' still a work in progress. I'm not satisfied with the annexation section. But the aspect of his scientific writing is fascinating. — Maile (talk) 02:17, 23 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Ok yeah that's fine. I might create one for Charles Hastings Judd later down the line to pair with Armstrong then. You should use commons:Category:William Nevins Armstrong for images. .--KAVEBEAR (talk) 02:19, 23 November 2016 (UTC)


 * I've been looking at your draft of Armstrong's article. One point I have to note that may be inaccurate despite it being reported in his obituaries is his attendance at the Royal School ran by the Cookes. That school was exclusively for the sixteen royal chiefs and chiefesses. Armstrong may have attended the Royal School ran by Edward Beckwith instead which Kalakaua also attended for a short while; sources indicate that the missionary children attended this school . Also we have records he was a student at Punahou from 1842 to 1849. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 20:29, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Changes made. Glad you're paying attention. I'm going with the Beckwith run school as fact.  The source you gave lists Armstrong as a "deceased member", so at least we can connect him to it. — Maile  (talk) 21:05, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

ʻOkina
I've relisted the RM at Talk:Zorobabela Kaʻauwai with some concern. I ask for your patience. It could easily have been closed as no consensus or perhaps even rough consensus not to move, but I would like to make it quite clear whether or not the policy allows this particular usage (as I think it does but the proposer claims it doesn't).

That means trying to establish a stronger consensus, and giving the proposer a chance to explain, hence the relisting. But I understand your annoyance. If I can help in any other way please leave a message here or on my talk page. TIA. Andrewa (talk) 19:41, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Jonah Kapena
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DYK for Antone Rosa
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Carlos Long
Impressive work of late. Who would have thought covering the All-Southerns would find "a true friend of the Hawaiian race"? Cake (talk) 20:56, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Yep,he was an interesting individual. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 21:05, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Did he practice law just a year? Cake (talk) 01:27, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * No he probably practiced law for a good deal of time. Usually local politicians can't work full time as politicians. He would probably worked as a lawyer in between working for the territorial government.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 01:31, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * wish I could beef up the section on his political and legal career, or at least see where my lack of comprehension lies. Also, is there any reason for showing his mother's dates but not his father? Cake (talk) 01:38, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * His father's lifespan is not known that is the reason. There are 1149 result in local Hawaiian newspapers for his life between just 1900 and 1922 if you want to comb through that.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 01:44, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Do you think this Charles Long is his father? Cake (talk) 01:50, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * There are also several reference to a "Judge Carlos Long" c. 1908. Cake (talk) 01:53, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't know. I generally don't try to expand a biography beyond what I know for certain. Since he lived till 1943 there is much stuff we can't access for certain about him--KAVEBEAR (talk) 01:56, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Think it is him, though. see page 8. The "tax accessor for eight years" bit makes it seem as if we left off in 1921, when we did so in 1905, which is further confounded by the reference to statehood in 1959; so went the motivation to make it a note. Cake (talk) 02:01, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Long had nothing to do with statehood. The book author Smith just argued that this act named and brought up by Long was one of many political and local actions in Hawaii which contributed to creating a spirit or sense of local government which led to statehood in 1959. It's a lot of indirectness but is interesting showing an influence/legacy he played an indirect part in. Many in Hawaii wanted statehood since at least the 1900s.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 02:11, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

DYK for John Dominis Holt II
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Newspapers.com
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DYK for John Timoteo Baker
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Talkback
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DYK for Matua (priest)
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Awesome job on Edward William Purvis
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DYK for James Kekela
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DYK for Likelike (wife of Kalanimoku)
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DYK for Puaaiki
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DYK for Kiliwehi
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DYK for John Green Hoapili
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James Kaliokalani
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DYK for J. W. Lonoaea
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DYK for Zorobabela Kaʻauwai
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DYK for ʻAkahi
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DYK for Tiripone Mama Taira Putairi
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Hi
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William Pūnohu White
I appreciate your ongoing editing efforts to improve this article but I am asking you to please stop editing until I can complete my Good Article Review. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 22:40, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Ok no problem. It is pretty much done. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 22:45, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, greatly appreciated. Every time I was starting to do my restarted review, there were new edits to consider.  I hope to have the latest review/readthrough done later tonight within a few hours. Shearonink (talk) 22:52, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

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DYK for William Pūnohu White
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DYK for Ululani Lewai Baker
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DYK for Lanihau
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DYK for David Kahalekula Kaʻauwai
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DYK for John Dominis Holt IV
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Incomplete DYK nomination
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DYK nomination of Clarence W. Macfarlane
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DYK nomination of William Hoapili Kaauwai
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William Pūnohu White

 * Hello, KAVEBEAR - I have finished copy-editing William Pūnohu White. I just wanted to say that several times, in order to make an ungrammatical or unfinished-sounding sentence correct, or complete, I had to do a bit of guessing. I recommend that you study my edits carefully to be sure that I guessed correctly, and feel free to correct anything that is wrong or substitute a different word. Please ask me if you are not sure about anything. – Corinne (talk) 01:27, 8 January 2017 (UTC) By the way, I found the article quite interesting.  – Corinne (talk) 01:28, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. But I didn't detect anywhere where you change anything that required guessing. What areas were you unsure of? It looks ok.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 08:35, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, in  group of edits, you'll see that I added the word "organization" in this sentence:


 * He was elected in 1896 as honorary president of the Hui Aloha ʻĀina (Hawaiian Patriotic League), a patriotic organization established after the overthrow to oppose annexation.


 * There had been no word there previously, and a word was needed. I don't know if "organization" is the correct word or not. It could also be "party", "group", or "society".


 * I changed this wording:


 * He supported the lottery bill and opium bill which was intended to alleviate the economic depression on the islands' sugar industry caused by the passage of the McKinley Tariff.


 * to this:


 * He supported the lottery bill and the opium bill, which were intended to alleviate the economic depression on the islands' sugar industry caused by the passage of the McKinley Tariff.


 * I assumed that it was both the lottery bill and the opium bill that were intended to alleviate the economic depression, not just the opium bill.


 * Finally, I added a phrase in this sentence:


 * According to William DeWitt Alexander, this was pre-planned by the queen to take place while she met with her newly appointed cabinet ministers in the Blue Room of the palace.


 * to make it clear that it was the marching into the palace with the sealed package that was to take place at the same time as she was meeting with her cabinet ministers. Without the phrase, it could sound like the action was [pre-] planned by the queen while meeting with her ministers.


 * I'm just curious as to why you replaced the extra space after references that I had removed. I don't really understand your edit summary or the need for that extra space. With the space, in edit mode, it kind of looks like new paragraphs are being started when they aren't. – Corinne (talk) 16:42, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * All those changes are fine. I made the changes so it is better to compare them with the old version line by line. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 19:06, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Can you possibly take a look at the new addition for William Pūnohu White?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 21:23, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

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Edward William Purvis
Hello, KAVEBEAR - You'll see that I changed the wording at the beginning of the Edward William Purvis section to improve the flow of the sentences. I wondered whether you would consider "into a family of Scottish and British descent" accurate enough, or whether you would prefer to say "into a Scottish–British family" or "to Scottish and British parents" (if one parent was Scottish and the other British). I thought the fact that Edward William's grandfather left the British Isles and settled in the Dutch East Indies quite early on in the 1800s makes the use of the word "descent" accurate enough. I also think the wording as it is now sounds better. What do you think? – Corinne (talk) 18:26, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I like the changes except I am going to remove British since that is just nationality rather than ethnic descent; Scottish are British and we have no indication his mother was English or anything else.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 18:44, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
 * O.K. (I wondered about that.) – Corinne (talk) 21:59, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

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DYK for Franklin Seaver Pratt
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William Pūnohu White
Hello, KAVEBEAR - I want to ask you about your recent  to William Pūnohu White. While of course you know more about this topic than I do, I wonder whether "this session" is not less specific than "they" rather than more specific. The paragraph starts with "During this session, the Native Hawaiian legislators..." Then there is a switch, with, "However, their agenda was obstructed by the Republicans and the appointed members of territorial government". When you say "this session", it is not clear which faction moved to decentralize the government. Don't you want to indicate this? You could say, "In this session, they..." or "In this session, the [who?]..." – Corinne (talk) 19:51, 23 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Are those your  from an IP address, or someone else's? If they are yours, that's fine (I suppose – I don't know the rules for editing from an IP address), but the "the" before "local government" has got to go. I think you'll agree it's not about a specific local government, it's about local government in general. It could be changed to "local governments", but it's not necessary. So, either "local government" or "local governments", but not "the local government" or "the local governments". So, I'm going to remove the "the". If the rest of the edit is not yours, it's up to you to decide whether it's an improvement or not. – Corinne (talk) 01:25, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * That was me, just away from computer at the time of th edit. Ok sounds good I was unsure about that addition of "the" anyway.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 01:59, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh, O.K. Good. I'm glad you changed it back to "government". – Corinne (talk) 02:09, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

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Joseph Nawahi request
Hello, KAVEBEAR! I was just about to reply to your request at WP:RX when the bot decided to file it away it prematurely … rather than mess with the archives I thought I’d just drop you a line here.

It seems that access to those books is unusually restricted, not just for people with academic accounts; my JSTOR access is through WP and I can’t get at them either. But I can see the Feldman review of the art exhibition in Pacific Arts; feel free to e-mail if you’d like me to send you a copy.—Odysseus 1 4 7  9  23:12, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes. Can you replied there so the other users know what is done and what is not? It was accidentally archived.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 23:22, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Done; let me know where you want the PDF sent. BTW pings don’t work unless you sign at the same time. (But I watch pretty well every page I edit.)—Odysseus 1 4 7  9  03:15, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Now e-mailed; give me a shout if it doesn’t show up soon.—Odysseus 1 4 7  9  05:37, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Reference errors on 2 February
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Liliuokalani
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DYK nomination of Curtis P. Iaukea
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Table formatting
Maybe you already knew this, but FYI in case you didn't. This probably won't be an issue unless you take something with tables up through the Featured classes (List/Article). WP:ACCESS is the column and row coding to accommodate access to Wikipedia for visually challenged people who use screen readers. It would be a requirement at FLC and FAC. It's only the scope="col" and scope="row"coding to be concerned with. If you already knew this, then disregard this message. — Maile (talk) 22:11, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I have no idea what this is and looking at the link confused me even more. I will look into it more when I ever re-encounter it. Thanks.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 22:16, 14 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes. It confused me also my first time; a reviewer told me I wasn't conforming to it and wouldn't tell me what it was or give me any help.  You format your tables a little differently than I do, I think.  So I didn't want to mess with the most recent one you asked me to look at.  But I will give you Leo Carrillo on stage and screen as an example.  The Stage section is small, so it's easier to see how I did it.  The scope="col" only needs to be done in the heading part at the top of the table, once for each column heading in the table.  The scope="row" needs to be inserted at the beginning of every row in the table.  So, at the very least, you have this if anyone says you need it for a table.  Maybe you'll be lucky and no one will ever mention it. — Maile  (talk) 22:29, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Hula-hula of joy happening
King Kalākaua's world tour made it, just passed FAC

FYI, I have now nominated it to run April 16, on FA requests pending. That's opening day of the Merrie Monarch festival. However, it's also Easter Sunday. So, we'll see how it goes. — Maile (talk) 22:10, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Great! Thanks for the hard work!--KAVEBEAR (talk) 22:11, 18 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Let me say that I find it very productive to work with you on these articles. — Maile (talk) 22:14, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

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Mary Kaye
I ran across Mary Kaye, after seeing her front the Mary Kaye Trio on an old 1950s TV show. Nothing on that show indicated a Hawaii connection. I typed her name into the search bar and came up with her article that claims she was descended from Liliuokalani. I found the source where she stated that. She claimed to be a direct descendant from Liliuokalani through "Prince Koheo, Queen Liliokalani’s younger brother". I have edited the article accordingly. Maybe you know something I don't know. Also, her father Johnny Ka’aihue (Johnny Guitar) was said to be a famous uke player in his time and place. Before my time, and I don't readily find anything on him. — Maile (talk) 13:03, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Seems to be a fake to me; the name Koheo doesn't even sound Hawaiian. I generally do not believe any genealogy claims that were not readily known during the monarchy or the early 1900s since if they were of the alii class (illegitimate or legitimate), they would be recognized as such by their peers.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 18:53, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

FA credits
FYI, you have just as much right as I do to claim K's world tour as an FA credit. It was a co-nomination, and you did a lot both for the article and the image review. Go ahead and claim it on your user page, you earned it. — Maile (talk) 00:07, 22 February 2017 (UTC)


 * List of Wikipedians by featured article nominations, the FA bot officially gave you credit for it. — Maile (talk) 00:12, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

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Curtis P. Iaukea
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Jarrett
It's in his official congressional biography "unsuccessful candidate for reelection in 1926 to the Seventieth Congress"
 * Thanks. I just wanted to be careful since the list has no source.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 22:58, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

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3+ Revert Rule editing practices
I've noticed that your editing history is rife with multiple reversions and additions of material. This could be seen by some editors as a violation of the three-revert rule. I suggest that when editing an article, try to use the preview button or open up multiple screens if you feel the need to add info after the fact. Or something that that doesn't require you to go back, add a/or remove material. --293.xx.xxx.xx (talk) 08:56, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I understand my actions and none of them can be considered 3+ revert which is edit warring which is not something I would not do. Reverting once or twice is not subject to the rule if there is just cause. Users are allow to revert other editors content; it's the continual reverting without discussion and edit warring that is a problem and should be avoided. I see the image your are using as a poor one with no value to the article which is why I removed it in the first place. I assumed you were an IP address for a while. Let's discuss that part in the talk page of the article because you have not been anymore forthright than me in the edit summaries when revering my edits either.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 15:58, 13 March 2017 (UTC)


 * I did not see any notice except your reversion of my edit on the article. After I saw the reversion, I then saw the messages you gave me, so I don't know why Wikipedia failed to inform me of your messaging given I was waiting for a response for sometime. My images are of when there were archeological surveys in 2012, which gives an idea of how the site is today, and has a clear infomation board that identifies the site as Moku'ula. I think this image or the other one is sufficient enough given the island is buried, than using an image of a ballpark or your image, which is of lower quality than mine. Compare that image to one on the Friends of Moku'ula site.--293.xx.xxx.xx (talk) 23:21, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

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DYK for Marquesan Dog
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The Marquesan Dog

 * Unrelated question. Can you give me your opinion on this? How does File:Dog petroglyph from meʻae Iʻipona, Puamaʻu Village, Hiva Oa, Marquesas Islands, photograph by Moth Clark, 2009 (levels adjusted).jpg look by itself and on Marquesan Dog? Now compare it with the source. I think there is a weird optical illusion that is making it darker when it appears on a white background. What do you think or is my eyes playing tricks with me?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 00:37, 17 March 2017 (UTC)


 * I think I know why, and I don't think it's an optical illusion. I checked it out with 3 different browsers, zooming in and out.  One thing is really evident.  The Commons upload has sharper focus details on it, making the tiny white specks brighter and black specks darker.  The original has softer focus, so you can't see depth of color on the image.  But that's what I think did it, the fine sharpness on the upload.— Maile  (talk) 00:52, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. That's odd.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 00:53, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Do you mind giving the Marquesans Dog nom a review? I am having trouble finding a suitable hook that synthesize everything I want to convey. Maybe you can suggest an alternative hook (which would need to be seconded by another reviewer). Thanks.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 07:27, 17 March 2017 (UTC)


 * OK, I've reviewed it and left an ALT6. There is a problem with a non-working link for the last source, so please correct that. — Maile  (talk) 13:49, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

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