User talk:KEM

KEM

I have moved much of the discussion between yourself and Ekklesiastic from the Christadelphians talk page to your and Ekklesiastic's talkpages. This is because they were predominantly about TruthAlive, not about the Christadelphians article. RJB 22:41, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Discussion moved from Christadelphians talkpage
To the owner of Truth Alive:

The other forum for discussing the BIBLE has been removed, however, if Truth Alive is placed backed on wiki (which is inappropriate) several matters have to be pointed out.

No one is afraid of Truth Alive, the major difficulty is and this can be verified by at least 12 witnesses if not more, that both sides of Truth are not promoted on Truth Alive.

If any speak the truth or clarify the oft times slander about the Christadelphian faith and groups on Truth Alive they are either placed on moderation or removed from the board, and this also includes at least one ex-Christadelphian.This therefore gives a warped perception, and the same perception you are giving the pages here in altering them - the vandalism for the past two weeks on wiki - you have been spoken to about this on other Christadelphian forums you are no longer a member of.

You are no longer a Christadelphian, nor is the other assistant Manager, nor other members of the board who are most vocal, one ex-Christadelphian suggested that a number of you make the break nor is wiki the place to make comments about Truth Alive, if ex-Christadelphians want to search the web then they can, or alternatively if you are using this site, wiki to make an MSN site higher up the search rate then I suggest you puchase a domain name and site.

Wiki is an encyclopaedia, about the history of Christadelphia, with a few links (other links have been recently removed so not to overload the page, and because of the page exceeding the size)let's keep that way.



Please note, Ekklesiastic:

Comments in boxes in this section only (Constantly repeated deletions) are by Ekklesiastic

"The Three-revert rule (or 3RR) is an official policy which applies to all Wikipedians. The policy states that an editor must not perform more than three reversions on a single Wikipedia article within 24 hours of their first reversion. (This does not apply to self-reverts or correction of simple vandalism). This does not imply that reverting three times or fewer is acceptable. In excessive cases, people can be blocked for edit warring or disruption even if they do not revert more than three times per day."

The corrections were made because of your - vandalism - to the pages.

The posting of factual, veriable information or a link to a website which genuinely provides additional relevant information does not constitute "vandalism".

You are no longer a Christadelphian by your own statement and changing the Christadelphian pages here, subtle comments, about open table which you yourself practice.

My views on the Lord's table are well known, and I've held them for years. Any "subtle comments" on that subject made by me here are true and veriable and intended only to provide factual details about the diversity of fellowship practices within the Christadelphian community, from tiny fellowships with only a   handful of members on one end of the spectrum, to individuals and ecclesias within the Central fellowship which have an open Table on the other end of the spectrum. Your comment about my affiliation with Christadelphians is obviously made out of ignorance.

The matter about the website you linked which should be a warning to Christadelphians, Christians and others that it contains gross inaccuracies, MSN having to remove one of the most slanderous posts menitoning names on public forum - hence your site, which is also linked to "appeals" for money should not be listed in this Wikipedia, however, then the usual start, the "battle" of childish behaviour begins.

I repeat what I have said earlier. MSN have never removed anything from the Truth Alive discussion board, despite whatever protestations you may have made. Your comment is simply untrue and has absolutely no basis in fact. The Truth Alive forum is not a fundraising site. If it contains any links to bona fide Christadelphian organisations which fundraise from the brotherhood on their own site then I would personally consider that to be reasonable and acceptable. That would not constitute a legitimate reason to preclude a link to Truth Alive in this Wiki article.

You have again posted inaccurate information about the websites listed which is again a form of vandalism however; on wise advise from many, it is best to let you have the floor - your behaviour here is another prime example why to take this advice, and any others reading this thread.

There is nothing inaccurate in anything I have posted. If you believe there is you are welcome to point it out and substantiate your claim. Simply deleting something you disagree with is discourteous, rude, contrary to Wiki policies, and plain stupid.

There will be no further response, because any further dialogue is futile.

Signed: Concerned about the potential misuse of something that should be a wonderful facility, Wikipedia.

If you don't like a particular link that's there don't remove it. I notice that the owner of the Bible Truth Discussion Forum site has been repeatedly deleting the link to the Truth Alive forum. If a link to BTDF is allowed then a link to Truth Alive is also in order. It's just plain stupid to keep deleting a link. Anyone would think this person owned Wiki!! -- PLEASE NOTE:

The links to Bible Truth Discussion Forum and TCo were not put there originally by the owner of the site (please ensure when posting in public domain you quote factually).


 * I didn't comment on who put the links there "originally", only on who was repeatedly deleting the link to Truth Alive.

You are a late commer to the links brethren in Christ included to give the best overview of Christadelphian fellowships, the "owner" of the site found the links when googling the link to wiki was found.


 * The above paragraph is incomprehensible. It is so ungrammatical that it makes no sense whatsoever.

Please refer to the usuage of "links" - wiki IS AN ENCYCLOPEADIA - not for anyone to link for their own agendas, it is to give the reader the best overview of the Christadelphian faith.

Unfortunately, Truth Alive, does not come into the category, as it is also an advertisement for fund raising for various others from time to time and who are no longer in fellowship.


 * Truth Alive is a discussion forum and is not used for fundraising, by anyone.

Truth Alive also promotes less appealing aspects (against some), which is incorrect, MSN having to judge content on several occasions and remove posts.


 * MSN has never removed any posts from Truth Alive. Truth Alive may not appeal to some who hold different views, but then no forum will ever appeal to everyone. BTDF is unappealing to some.

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Use of real names without permission is not permitted "netiquette" and has been removed. --- The establishment of the wiki page for Christadelphians was the work of a number of Christadelphian brethren who placed external links, relevant sites, regarding information on the Christdelphian faith, which would benefit readers of wiki.

There are a number of fellowships which still can add to the external links section, however, to refer you again to the matter of adding links:

Please refer "discussion" sections 3, 7, 8 and 32:

"Please remember that Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not an advertising site".