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Romania
Done. But for the record, just update please all the countries if you can! According to the October 2018 estimations. Our minister already offered some figures, but let's not. In 2 months it will probably come another IMF report (and they get official new numbers as per representatives in the countries). You are a bit late on updating though. Good luck! Regards, Christina Christina (talk) 18:40, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * PS. I am sorry I took your time for a while (plus you were right), but I needed to check. You understand what problems we face sometimes, from lies to the mockeries. Actually most of the users are very respectful to be honest. But not all are. Christina (talk) 18:46, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Use the article's talk page
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be repeatedly reverting or undoing other editors' contributions at Economy of Bangladesh. Although this may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is known as "edit warring" and is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, as it often creates animosity between editors. Instead of reverting, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Economy of Indonesia; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Davidelit (Talk) 09:24, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

Your recent editing history at Economy of Indonesia shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing&mdash;especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;even if you don't violate the three-revert rule&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Davidelit (Talk) 03:50, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Staff estimates
Hi. "Shaded cells indicate IMF staff estimates" - including 2018, 2019 and 2020. Are we looking at the same page? Regards Davidelit (Talk) 04:26, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
 * OK - the original link was the one you posted, but even your new link states "Shaded cells indicate IMF staff estimates", and 2018 is shaded, as are 2019 and 2020. Regards Davidelit (Talk) 04:37, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Still "Shaded cells indicate IMF staff estimates" for the only column, namely "2018". Regards Davidelit (Talk) 04:47, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
 * But the cells are shaded - not the same colour as the rest of the table... Regards Davidelit (Talk) 04:58, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
 * It appears you have been previously warned about edits. You don't get to give orders. Please remember WP:CIVIL. Thank you. Davidelit (Talk) 03:02, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

GDP ranking
Please change the GDP rankings for India, UK and France. As per the data released by the IMF for April 2019 edition of the world economic outlook. India is the 5th largest economy with an amount of 2.97 trillion dollars, 6th is UK with 2.83 trillion dollars and 7th is France with 2.76 trillion. Go to the link mentioned in the reference and click on list and then value to sort the table in descending order. Reference - https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/NGDPD@WEO/OEMDC/ADVEC/WEOWORLD Sidnav18 (talk) 10:22, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Accidental revert
Hi, apologies. My laptop has a strange lag and I accidentally reverted an edit to your talkpage while looking at my Watchlist. Sorry. Davidelit (Talk) 03:42, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Bro, U say IFM Data isn't Missing GDP (Nominal)
Thank You Bro Abdullahmusa554 (talk) 21:37, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Economy article
Hi Could you please collapse the Credit Rating section inside the infobox, because there are four credit rating added, which is expanding the infobox significantly therefore I urge you to make it a "collapsible list". Thanks--Aakanksha55 (talk) 08:30, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 * for Economy of India? KREOH (talk) 09:01, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 * No no I'm talking about all countries economic article, not only India.--Aakanksha55 (talk) 14:49, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 * You should know that it doesn't work for mobile devices, only on desktop computers. KREOH (talk) 15:17, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 * That I know that it does not work on mobile devices, even it works on desktop computers at least the infobox won't get expanded substantially. If there were one credit rating then it as fine, but given the four credit rating is given. So I suggest collapsible list is better. I will try to do few.--Aakanksha55 (talk) 15:23, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

October 2019
Hello, I'm Iryna Harpy. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Russia seemed less than neutral and has been removed. If you think this was a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Note, also, that edit summary is not only in bad faith on your behalf, but is considered a personal attack on another contributor. Thank you. Iryna Harpy (talk) 06:08, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Angola GDP growth figures
Hi - you reverted the figures for Angola's GDP growth to older statistics. The latest statistics show Angola's 2016-18 recession was deeper than expected and it is still not clear the country has returned to growth (IMF is showing small growth for 2019 1st quarter year on year GDP change, but still too early to predict 2019 full year figures - estimates vary between sources on small growth or continued recession). I've included the latest World Bank figures from their databases - if you are aware of something more reliable, please indicate. I don't see a reason to include the 2019 estimates because there is too much variation at this point. --Goldsztajn (talk) 10:27, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Poland
Next time you remove sourced information without a discussion on a talk page I am going to report you for vandalism like you already were before. Place personal opinions aside and discuss changes. You cannot remove referenced data without talk page entry. Oliszydlowski (talk) 23:06, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

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Indeed.
That new lead image for the "Economy of China" article is indeed a winner.

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Economy of China.
Hi - you reverted the figures for China's poverty rate to older statistics. I had posted the 2017 figures from the World Bank.


 * All good now. KREOH (talk) 18:41, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

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Russian Population Issue
Excuse me Kreoh, this is a problem because the population according to record is what the Russian page says. I have no intent to ruin the pages, only to contribute. I'm trying to get as much accurate information across as possible. Please, can we work this out? There is no need for any conflict with two Wikipedia users. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IntercontinentalEmpire (talk • contribs) 21:43, 11 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Where are you getting your population numbers from? You should cite your sources for the population figures. The current source on the Russia page is a news article getting the figures from GKS.ru/Rosstat which are from 1 January 2019 and currently there are none for 1 January 2020. KREOH (talk) 06:31, 12 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Look, if it makes you feel better, i'll try to input more sources but just remember, i mean no harm to any article. I have no intention to ruin, sabotage and destroy important articles, strictly good intentions is what my goal is. I will try my best to source my sites and input as closes to accurate information as i can. I apologize for any inconvenience and hope to do better justice on what is here.

Russian Population Issue II
Excuse me, we have a problem, i don't mean to tattle but i wish to report something important. You see. there's this guy who is ruining the Russian population page, i tried punching in sources but he denies it competely, can you give him a warning if he does it again please? I am doing my best to contribute but i feel like he's in my way, again, the sources i put down are accurate and match the main Russian page, please help me.
 * Are you sure that the population number 146 804 372 is for the year 2020? Can you give me a link to the website that you are using for these statistics? Also, do you know how to source your info into the articles properly? KREOH (talk) 03:27, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Well more specifically, it was on the main Russian page, also i found it somewhere here. It is faithful to the main Russian page and the one the other guy put is not right. He claims thast i'm trying to vandalize the page. This is preposterous, i am contributing and he accuses me, that's disgraceful. The link down below show's Russia's population correctly... https://prezi.com/mpnzl-nrrkbz/russia/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by IntercontinentalEmpire (talk • contribs) 15:26, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I know it is faithful. The problem is that it is the population for January 2017 and not for 2020. On the GKS.ru website the latest info is for January 2019 and it is 146 780 720. There don't seem to be official population figures for January 2020 yet. KREOH (talk) 22:11, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Look, trust me, they are what thy are, the population of Russia has indeed increased, not by far but it is enough to know that they halted their decline. please, can you help me because the info that is on that page is teaching new viewers lies. It's not correct but if i try to go against them, they will try and report me, please help. I do my best to give good information to the community and i feel back stabbed for trying to do the right thing. The info on that page is not valid at all and does not qualify for anything. Please protect the page, please. I want to continue helping everyone on Wikipedia and it would be unfair to let terrible and corrupt info slip by. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IntercontinentalEmpire (talk • contribs) 23:15, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not an admin, so I can't protect it. You can go to Requests for page protection for that, though you will need a good reason for protection. KREOH (talk) 02:42, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

There's too much going on the page. I can't find a reliable source of administrators, is there a specific place that i can use to find some help from an admin?
 * Then go to Admin help and copy the text in the box to your own talk page. KREOH (talk) 03:22, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Hungry
About your shit....Any way your willing to join the talk on the wrong info you just added back..and a map with wrong borders? -- Moxy 🍁 21:16, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not all about that map. You removed my edit as part of your mass revert. KREOH (talk) 21:28, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Soory was not aware that little bit of info was removed....anywas can revert the wrong date for census data and the map that's all messed up. As of now we have 2 problems that are outstanding.....your addition is fine the rest is not. I wishing to move forward without the new editor being block for a simple error.-- Moxy 🍁 21:34, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Have locked up the page so the new guy doesn't get blocked for a few simply errors....pls join chat if you think you can add something. -- Moxy 🍁 21:54, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

Economy of Spain. Spanish data prevails over European data.
The most authoritative and trustworthy source for anything related to Spain or its demography is the official INE data which you are still changing for a broad European data.

That's useful for countries that don't collect the data officially, not the case of Spain, which does. Spain uses a national threshold to calcullate the "at risk of poverty or social exclusion" the European measurement is different and therefore it doesn't apply correctly to Spanish statistics.

In fact, the page I have linked yesterday, this one: https://www.ine.es/dyngs/INEbase/es/operacion.htm?c=Estadistica_C&cid=1254736176807&menu=ultiDatos&idp=1254735976608 actually mentions as well the "social exclusion" not only the "at risk of poverty" could you use a Translating Software to prove it? Therefore, hence this is official and national data, this prevails over continental data.

Please don't remove this again, neither add the other as it doesn't add utility since we have an official, national source of data. I don't want to make an edit war over a number, but since Wikipedia is based on the most authoritative sources, in this scneario the INE data prevails over the European data.

Remember that this page is an individual, national page called Economy of Spain and not a broad European page like List of European countries by average wage I understand that in the last page we should use the same data for all when available, but for the first is good as long as it doesn't have a more authoritative source. Spain at least has one, so it must prevail. I hope you will understand this. --TechnicianGB (talk) 23:08, 20 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Eurostat uses INE data.


 * Yes, the Eurostat indicator 'at risk of poverty or social exclusion' is more in-depth so the percentage is gonna be higher, however it's impossible for it to not "apply correctly" to Spanish data. It was made specifically for comparisons.


 * What exactly do you mean by "continental data"? Eurostat doesn't mix stats from other countries with Spain.


 * I can add both indicators using only the INE. I would be perfectly fine with that. Both the INE and Eurostat are perfectly good and reliable sources for Wikipedia.


 * The use of Eurostat as a source is not meant to attack the sovereignty of Spain, alright? I'm not sure if this is something political for you or you have some problem with the European Union or what, but if I have more in-depth stats readily available then I'm gonna use them. Eurostat gets its data about Spain from the INE itself. KREOH (talk) 00:09, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Economy of the European Union
Hi :, you have reverted my change related to GDP per Capita'19 of Bulgaria. Today the National statistical institute published the Bulgaria population data for 2019 (refer to https://www.nsi.bg/en/content/18125/%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%81%D1%8A%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%89%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5/population-and-demographic-processes-2019) thus the GDP per capita for Bulgaria is currently outdated. Regards!

PPP GDP
isn't it premature to be using 2020 estimates as of March (economy is closed) while ignoring the latest 2019 estimates from the IMF ? shouldn't 2019 figures be used ?Grmike (talk) 03:49, 30 May 2020 (UTC)grmike


 * Which country are you referring to? KREOH (talk) 02:24, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

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