User talk:Kabiryani

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Happy editing! Cheers, Constant314 (talk) 19:18, 22 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello, Constant
 * Thank you for welcoming me to Wikipedia! Do you know how I could request help from other editors? I am trying to add citations to the "Latin letters in Mathematics" page but I cannot do it alone! Likewise, feel free to ask me if you need any help updating articles! I have a wide array of knowledge in different fields and I could definitely help you out!
 * Kabiryani (talk) 19:54, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Reliable Sources
Greetings and thanks for working to improve Wikipedia. I see that you are working to add reliable sources to Latin letters used in mathematics. That is a great way to start. However, you have made some mistakes.

Mathforum.org is not a reliable source. It is just the opinions of unvetted people.

Cut-the-knot.org is marginal. We know who the author is and he has some credentials, but this site is essentially a blog without any oversite or peer review process.

Lecture notes are marginal and have two problems. Often, they are incomplete, with some of the information given verbally. The other problem is they often disappear from the web.

Cosmology by Weinberg is a reliable source, but you did not give a page number.

I think that your other sources are reliable, but you are using them as examples and not as sources. For example, you cited mathworld.wolfram.com/AlgebraicNumber.html as a source for “a” is used for algebraic numbers by convention. But, the source does not say that “a” is used by convention for algebraic numbers. It merely uses “a” for an algebraic number. You cannot say that “a” is conventionally used for algebraic numbers unless the source says that. An example is not enough to establish a convention. Many examples is also not enough. Even if you find 100 examples, that is not enough because you are essentially conducting your own research. Please review WP:OR and {{WP:SYN]].

Similarly, Chemistry (IUPAC) is an example of “A” being used for Helmholtz free energy and not a source for “A” being the letter conventionally used for that energy.

Finding reliable sources to establish the facts is difficult. But citing sources that don’t actually establish the facts is not helpful.

It may seem like I am biting you, but I am not. It is just that Wikipedia has rigorous standards, especially in science/math/technology.

Please correct these short comings. Thanks. Constant314 (talk) 22:04, 22 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the feedback! Perhaps in one week's time, I could show you my progress on the citations to make sure that they uphold to the rigorous standards. I do definitely have a lot to learn about referencing since I've never had to reference anything for class assignments. But hopefully I'll learn quickly! Thanks for the help Kabiryani (talk) 18:10, 23 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Yes, a week is fine, since your errors are not harmful in the sense that you have not added anything that is factually incorrect. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. Constant314 (talk) 19:36, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Adoption Offer
I noticed you are wanting a experienced editor to adopt you and I would like to offer to adopt you let me know if you accept my offer. Sky The Wolf (Talk) 18:27, 28 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello SkyTheWolf,
 * Yes I have been looking for an experienced editor to help me! However, I have been looking for an editor with a background in Physics, Mathematics or Astronomy. If you are part of any of those WikiProjects or have experience in those fields, I would definitely accept your offer. I am looking for help with editing Wikipedia articles for these WikiProjects and some basic help with the occasional question on these fields! Best Regards Kabiryani (talk) 18:56, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I am wondering how much experience you mean. Sky The Wolf (Talk) 19:01, 28 March 2022 (UTC)


 * I would say A level standard or above in any of these fields. A levels are exams held in the UK for students aged 18. Kabiryani (talk) 19:29, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Sandbox talk
Dear Kabiryani,

Thank you for your reply to the post in my sandbox. I just wanted to let you know that the talk page of the sandbox is not really there for actually communicating to people - it is a scratch space for seeing how posts look. Unfortunately, I accidentally pinged you with my sandbox notice - I am sorry for that!

I am glad to hear that you are enjoying your physics, and I am sure that you will make valuable contributions here! Of course, most of our maths and physics articles require somewhat more than GCSE or even A Level exposure to edit productively. If I see something that I think you might enjoy though, I am sure to let you know! Felix QW (talk) 17:25, 30 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Dear Felix QW,
 * I did not realise when I commented on your post that it was in your sandbox, rookie error.
 * Yes, I certainly understand that the majority of the articles requiring contributions require more experienced editors. That is why I have been scouting out easier articles to work on such as minor biographies! Please do let me know if you find any articles I could help out with.
 * I am still working on references for the List of mathematical uses of Latin letters. However, I am finding it more and more challenging because many of the Latin symbols in the IUPAC Green Book are not included in the article. This is probably because the article has a mathematical focus. I will do what I can with the IUPAC Green Book and stop there because I do not want to accidentally add false information. I should finish referencing using my lined up sources in the next one to two weeks. Then I will message you and hand the baton to you for merging!
 * Best Regards, Kabiryani (talk) 17:45, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Disambiguation links
So, now that you are officially my adoptee, a first thing to notice: :)

You just added the wikilink to Rate of change in the Latin letters article. Now when you click the wikilink, you will see that you are brought not to an ordinary Wikipedia article, but to a disambiguation page. This is confusing for the reader, since they don't know which meaning of the phrase rate of change you are referring to. In our case, we mean the mathematical term rather than the financial indicator. So, we should link to rate of change (mathematics) instead. In the VisualEditor, you can do that by clicking the "wikilink" icon and then entering the term "Rate of change (mathematics)" in the box that appears. In the source editor, which you should try out soon as well, you type rate of change instead of rate of change, a so-called piped link.

Try it out! Felix QW (talk) 16:40, 31 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you for that tip, I shall get to work removing those disambiguation links! I actually have been experimenting a little with the source editor while adding subscripts and editing my user page. Do experienced editors use visual or source editing? I might be a little bit less active on Wikipedia in the next few weeks because I am very busy this Easter Holidays but I'll try my best to find time! One last question: What do you think is the best method to learn intermediate Python to advance Computer Science skills? I have learned the basics and I have programmed a few cool things but I'm not sure how to learn more. Thanks, Kabiryani (talk) 11:29, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Re Python: Good question! I don't have a great tip ready, since I am more involved with teaching declarative programming, but since we are already on-wiki, Wikibooks has a featured book that might just hit your level. Felix QW (talk) 15:42, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh that sounds great! I will definitely check that out! Kabiryani (talk) 18:05, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Subpage
Happy Easter, Kabiryani!

I have taken a somewhat closer look at what other adopters have done with their adoptees and it does look like I should provide a little more input. Therefore I have created a little subpage for you on my user page, user:Felix QW/Kabiryani. As I/we come up with things, they can go there so that everything is at one spot. There is not much on it yet, but hopefully it will become a more valuable resource as time progresses. It would be good if you would add that page to your watchlist, so that you can always keep track of what's happening. If you don't know yet how to do that: Just open the page and click on the star in the top right-hand corner. That will add the page to your watchlist. If you want to limit that to a certain time period, you can adjust that then. Tjis is mainly useful if you made a change to a page and you want to monitor it for any reactions or feedback, but are not really that interested in the page itself. Felix QW (talk) 15:16, 19 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Happy Easter to you to Felix QW,
 * I was wondering if you would like to embark on a project together! I've been wanting to work on an article graded A or GA and try to get it to FA standard but I definitely cannot do it without help. Perhaps a biography or city article because they have a fairly rigid structure and there is a lot of info out there on them. I am not sure how much work such a feat would require but I believe with a clear list of objectives I could learn on the job and contribute diligently. I would also be willing to delay such a project until I've got a feel for all the various skills a Wikipedia editor needs to know. Best Regards, Kabiryani (talk) 18:16, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * P.S. My knowledge of citations was really useful today when I was writing an essay on whether Germany was to blame for World War One!! Kabiryani (talk) 18:16, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Also thank you for the subpage! It seems very useful and it's a great resource for both teaching me essential skills while also contributing to interesting WikiProjects. Kabiryani (talk) 18:36, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I am glad if you find it helpful! Getting an article featured is generally considered very difficult, and I have never done so myself either. Before attempting that, I think it would be wise to get some experience by taking one or two articles that are currently at B Class and getting them to Good Article status. Felix QW (talk) 19:05, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello Kabyriani
Hello Kabyriani, I believe that I know you and have suddenly stumbled upon your acount! I just wanted to let you know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DanegerousDane (talk • contribs) 19:54, 20 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Dear DangerousDane,
 * I am guessing that due to the peculiar spelling of my username and your nationality that you are a fellow Liddellite. Hello irl friend. Hopefully. However, I must inform you that Wikipedia is not a social media platform. So unless you have an important Wikipedia related query, I would recommend you message / email me!
 * KB Kabiryani (talk) 20:00, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

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Westminster
Since you are a Londoner and interested in writing about your city, you might be able to help with this:

On the Middlesex page, there is a sentence in the Early county government section asserting that Westminster under control of the Abbey had "a high degree of autonomy". A source is given for this, but that source contains no mention at all of the fact. I searched around the remainder of Wikipedia, but at least a cursory search did not reveal any information on Westminster as an autonomous unit before the dissolution of the monasteries. I think this content would be a great asset to Wikipedia's coverage of Westminster-related topics, and I think it would be much more rewarding than your previous cleanup tasks! Felix QW (talk) 14:32, 1 May 2022 (UTC)


 * I added some extra information and referencing from londonlives.org to the early country government section of the Middlesex page! I never realised that Westminster is actually considered a city. It was also interesting because I just visited the Abbey last Friday. Kabiryani (talk) 09:13, 2 May 2022 (UTC)