User talk:Kablammo/Archive 13

Mankato West High School
Awesome work on edits to this article sir. Your work on the article was genuinely helpful and added some good cleanup to this page. I originally created this back in 2012 and decided to take another look at improving this page. I think that it is much closer to encyclopedia grade now in terms of research. If I find any more well cited info I will plan on adding. Thanks, keep up the good work! Shaded0 (talk) 23:58, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you . It can be expanded with notable alumni, but I believe they have to be notable by Wikipedia standards.  (Daniel Akerson would meet that test.)  And just because an infobox template allows a vast number of fields, that doesn't mean they all have to be filled; else infoboxes can be longer than the article, and less nuanced.  Keep up the good work!  Kablammo (talk) 15:38, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Nice find! I think this would be a very good addition to the page. I found a good article regarding his past from Mankato that could be included here. http://www.mankatofreepress.com/news/local_news/gm-ceo-gives-two-scholarships-to-west-kids/article_926e1d7a-e5d3-50f8-804f-b1506f4c1da8.html
 * This includes some other notable alumni, but I would need to review more notability standards for alumni pages.
 * http://www.isd77.org/page/4293/nocat_page/30/411
 * Shaded0 (talk) 16:24, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Main picture Great Tea Race of 1866
Noting the use of the relatively modern picture by Jack Spurling versus the unattributed but contemporaneous picture originating from Andrew Shewan's book, I was wondering how one might score the significance of each for the article. Spurling, though a qualified merchant maritime officer, with sea experience on a sailing ship, was born after the event described in the article. The picture from Shewan's book appears to be of the "pier-head artist" type. Whilst neither is painted from the actual event, the older picture may well be based on actual accounts of the spectacle of the race. It is also less romantic, perhaps emphasising that this was a commercial event, not some enormous yacht race. Another measure: which relies most on imagination?

Obviously a judgement call - but I just thought I would bounce the idea off you.

ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 21:53, 10 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello, and thanks for the note. I hope my other additions to your excellent work are acceptable.
 * There is another famous painting of the two clippers racing up the Channel; it is Ariel and Taeping by Montague Dawson.  It is not in the public domain, but prints are readily available on the internet.  My understanding (which may be flawed memory, as I cannot now find it in any of my books) is that the ships, while in the open sea with all sails set, were often in sight of each other, but not as close as shown in the Dawson painting and the drawing from the Shewan book.  Also, Ariel's 5 September 1866 log, when the ships were in the Channel, states "royal stunsails and all flying kites set", and the Shewan drawing does not appear to show this array of sail.  So the Spurling painting, while undoubtedly romantic, may be a better representation of the race up the Channel.  But I won't object if you wish to use the image from the Shewan book. Regards, Kablammo (talk) 01:37, 11 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I certainly wouldn't want to claim any ownership of the article!! Further research on Spurling reveals that he once offered a large cash prize to anyone who could find an inaccurate detail of rigging in any one of his paintings (which no-one ever successfully claimed) - so his work has obvious value. The older picture adds a flavour of the interest at the time (it might have appeared in one of the pictorial newspapers of the era, though I have not spotted it in one) - but I would be the first to acknowledge that I spend far to much time reading old newspapers. ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 08:32, 11 May 2016 (UTC)


 * , do you have any objection to moving this discussion to the article talk page? Kablammo (talk) 15:46, 12 May 2016 (UTC)


 * No problem for me - though the technical aspects may take me a bit of thought - so if you can do the necessary that would be fine. ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 20:28, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Copyright Claim on Edwards Manufacturing Company
Hello Kablammo, I'm new to wikipedia and I wanted to make a page for where I work, Edwards Manufacturing Company. Just minutes ago the page got a copyright warning and the history told me it was you that gave it. The copyright claim came from a bot that said the description of our company matched the description on our website. I did not know that using the same description would be an issue on wikipedia. Who can I contact or what can I do to resolve this claim? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ErickSati (talk • contribs) 21:44, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Erick. I think the links on the article and article talk page will help.  Basically, what you need is to cite the article to reliable, third-party sources.  WP:RS can give you some guidance.  And editing by someone with a conflict of interest is frowned on.  See WP:COI for more guidance on that.  I hope this helps.  Kablammo (talk) 21:50, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello again Kablammo, thank you so much for your links and conversation. I've attempted to remove my bias and include real references, because after reading your links I realize how trash my last wikipedia page really was. I've revised the Edwards Manufacturing Company page but I have not removed the copyright text because I don't know if I can judge my own article fairly. Who do I look towards to get this approved?ErickSati (talk) 19:08, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Erick, you can avoid the copyright concern if the person or company that owns the copyright (usually the author) has authorized the use of the text on Wikipedia. I think that is set forth in the "template" that I put on the page. Kablammo (talk) 19:11, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind remarks!
Thank you for your kind remarks! Thanks for flagging Douglas K. Amdahl - you're absolutely right! Neutralitytalk 14:50, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the hello.
Yeah, I've been inactive for a while. I'm currently trying to make sure that all the honorees of the Minnesota Boxing Hall of Fame have Wikipedia entries, but several have been deleted. The notability requirements for professional boxers are quite stringent, and finding old news citations is tedious and time consuming. Would you do me the favor of looking at Charley Retzlaff and suggesting any improvements? Brain Rodeo (talk) 18:48, 19 August 2016 (UTC)