User talk:Kahastok/Archive 18

Mercopress
Don't know if you've seen it but the Mercopress article had been PRODed. I wondered if you might have time to have a look at seeing if it can be rescued, I've had a quick look and whilst it's a widely cited source in academic and other media there is very little about Mercopress itself being an online only agency. WCM email 12:59, 22 February 2021 (UTC)


 * I think we'll struggle to save it. I've had a bit of a look, and the sources I found were split between those who appear to have reused our content (not always the current version) and trivial mentions - generally citations - that can't be used to write an article.  Google Books gives hundreds of results where it has been used as a citation, but I haven't found a profile or actual commentary on Mercopress itself.


 * If you think we are missing something, might be worth converting to a userspace draft or similar. But I've not seen anything that I could hang a keep argument off at AFD. Kahastok talk 21:42, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXIX, March 2021
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Beg a favour
Talk:Attack on HMS Invincible Would you mind taking a peak and giving your thoughts on how to treat this in a neutral manner. I feel I'm not getting through. WCM email 15:49, 15 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Sorry for the delay, I have been taking a bit of a break from Wikipedia.


 * The subject clearly needs to be treated in accord with WP:FALSEBALANCE. Meaning that we shouldn't be trying to balance the fact with fiction.


 * To me, the most obvious problem paragraphs (in this version, which I understand is quite different from the version on Thursday) are the last para of Thwarted attack, and the last para of Outcome.


 * In Thwarted attack, the second paragraph needlessly recapitulates events from the first one. If there is useful additional information, it needs to be merged in.  If not, then the para should be removed.


 * In Outcome, that's an extraordinarily long quote, included for no obvious purpose. It is not obvious from the text what is fact and what is the individual's claim.  It's also entirely sourced to the Daily Express, which is unreliable.  So


 * I will make some edits along these lines. Are there further issues here? Kahastok talk 18:27, 19 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your input. There were a number of SPS used, one in particular was problematic as it was blacklisted (remember TheRealHistoryMan?).  When I removed it, it was edit warred back into the article.  I pointed the guy to the ANI thread where it was removed and instead of acting on that I got a long rambling email telling me the source was good.  I also don't see what the overview section is adding?  For now, I've removed some of these problems but on past experience he'll put them straight back in. WCM email 08:27, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXX, April 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXI, May 2021
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Nessie Rock
Dear Kahastok, I wonder if you would possibly be interested in the current AfD discussion for that article. Best, Apcbg (talk) 16:48, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Article at AFD again
Articles for deletion/William Dickson (Falklands) You may wish to comment. WCM email 08:46, 10 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi, Kahlstock, I accidentally deleted this message from your page this morning, after changing my settings I clicked on the new "vandalism" button that had appeared to see what it meant and found out that it meant I reverted WCM's post. All the best and apologies to you both. Boynamedsue (talk) 10:32, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXXII, June 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXIII, July 2021
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Sanity check requested
Mate, can you do me a favour and take a peek at Talk:British Empire, are my comments reasonable? WCM email 22:23, 7 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Yes, mostly.


 * It appears to me - particularly from edits like this - that the other editor believes that he is doing you guys an enormous favour by looking at the article. He seems to be expecting you to thank him for his benevolence and immediately agree with all of his suggestions - if not in detail than in at least in general.  I think you guys are giving him a bit of a reality check, but I'm not sure he's got it yet.


 * He should not have tagged the article. I don't think he understands that, and I don't think he's going to.  But at this stage it doesn't really matter.  I think you've already let go of that and any other issues.  Much easier to say from the outside, but I think you both took your eye off the content in the last few messages under Omissions/systemic bias.


 * More generally, I think it's clear that you and other editors are getting frustrated. Is this reasonable?  He made his proposals fully nine and a half months into the FARC process.  That process is now 7-8 weeks from completion.  He says he's going to propose detail, but not for "several weeks", because he hasn't actually done the research that - given the context - he rather needed to do before proposing anything.  He says he understands the need for the article to remain short, but it's very difficult to see how his proposal would not lengthen it significantly.  The proposals he has made do not appear to be anything that has not already been discussed.  He fills the talk page with walls of text that he seems to expect you to read and reply to in detail.  And he acts as though you're supposed to be grateful for all this.


 * Personally I think there are times when asking editors not to get frustrated is asking an inhuman degree of tolerance, and I think you're getting there in this case. Kahastok talk 19:54, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Magnitude 7.2 earthquake strikes South Sandwich Islands
There, I pulled some ropes. Told ya we're gonna get revenge on them. ;) No such user (talk) 07:16, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXXIV, August 2021
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Cornish
I changed "late eighteenth century" to "end of eighteenth century", based on my original edit, which Roger approved, my last talk page suggestion, and the sources listed on that page. Feel free to bring any objections (or indeed, your support!) to the talk page. Tewdar (talk) 13:50, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXV, September 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXV, October 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVI, November 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVII, December 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, January 2022
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Nomination for deletion of Template:EU Special Member State Territories
Template:EU Special Member State Territories has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Nigej (talk) 20:23, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

List of sovereign states
Hi Kahastok. Recently, I have noticed the Legend columns are (sort of) oddly divided, and the proper version can be seen at Template:List of States. It seems to me there is no need to expand their headings into two lines. However, I am not sure how it should be done correctly. Could you fix it, please? Thank you in advance. Regards, --89.66.254.10 (talk) 22:15, 21 February 2022 (UTC)


 * I am not quite sure what you mean, but if you are referring to the navigation aids that point readers to the second part of the table (like the line saying "Kosovo → Kosovo") this is deliberate. Readers were having difficulty distinguishing the navigation aids from full entries, and so we decided to merge the rows to make this a bit clearer.  You can read the background to this change at the Duplicated listings section of the archive. Kahastok talk 20:49, 23 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the reply, I appreciate it. Oh, I see. P.S. Since it is surrounded by two arrows, which indicate the list's direction, I have changed the heading UN member states and General Assembly observer states → UN member states and GA observer states to avoid dividing it into two lines. It seems clearer now, I believe. Do you think it is reasonable? Regards, --89.66.254.10 (talk) 23:00, 23 February 2022 (UTC)


 * The argument the other way would be that the number of lines will depend on monitor size. I guess with a phone it might well end up on three or four lines.  Also that "GA" is not necessarily a well-known abbreviation, though if it's linked I don't think that's a huge problem.  Personally, I'm not too bothered about it - I think both positions are reasonable. Kahastok talk 18:02, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIV, February 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVII, March 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, April 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CXCIII, May 2022
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talk:Banknotes of the pound sterling
Hi, Kahastok: ref your contribution to the requested moves at talk:Banknotes of the pound sterling, could you clarify whether you oppose all three or just the "pound sterling" one? From context [and because I agree ] I think you mean just the latter but best to disambiguate if you would, please. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 18:07, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Martinvl @ Meta-Wiki
FYI, I thought you should be aware of this discussion, it's possible you may be asked to comment. WCM email 09:14, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXCIV, June 2022
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Sanity Check
Talk:United Nations list of Non-Self-Governing Territories

May I request a sanity check on my comments on this move suggestion. WCM email 22:27, 18 July 2022 (UTC)


 * I can see your point - a Non-Self-Governing Territory is very different from a non-self-governing territory. But, for some reason a clear semantic difference like this is not recognised as a good reason to use capital letters by MOS:CAPS.  So if we're going by the book it's really a matter of whether it is consistently capitalized in a substantial majority of independent, reliable sources.  You guys seem to have a discussion on that and I haven't looked in enough detail to comment sensibly.


 * I would say that I think the argument that someone made per MOS:SIGNIFCAPS is a misunderstanding of the purpose of the capitals. This is not capitalised to emphasise its specialness or importance.  It's capitalised because the version with capitals means a different thing from the version without. Kahastok talk 22:04, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXCVI, July 2022
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