User talk:Kahuroa/Archive 10

Good article review help: Netball in the Cook Islands
Hi. I nominated Netball in the Cook Islands for a good article. As you're part of WikiProject Polynesia, I was wondering if you could help review the article. If not, could you do the assessment for article as part of the project, level of importance and if it is at least worth a B? Thanks! --LauraHale (talk) 08:45, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
 * bit out of my area of expertise. Maybe one of the other people you contacted will be able to help. Kahuroa (talk) 20:33, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Infobox language - Flags
Hi Kahuroa, I noticed that you reverted a few of my edits consisting of adding flags to language articles. I was adding flags beside country names because they are visually helpful in picturing countries and are already used on hundreds of similar articles; Armenian language, Basque language, Catalan language, Danish language, Estonian language, Finnish language, just to name a few. Flags are also used on articles about ethnic groups; Germans, Hungarians, Icelanders, etc. I hope we can discuss this issue and find an agreement. In any case, I don't understand why you wrote (spam) as a reason for undoing my contributions, because however relevant they might seem to you, they are not spam. -Iketsi (talk) 23:47, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I was just following the Manual of Style about flags in infoboxes - I agree with the MOS here - unless the flags tell you something the text doesn't, they aren't needed. Kahuroa (talk) 00:00, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I see. In that case flags on infoboxes listing only one or two countries will be deemed unnecessary, but cases where multiple countries are listed are subject to debate. Thanks! Iketsi (talk) 22:11, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Not sure how you arrive at that but you are welcome to restart the debate as you see fit. Cheers Kahuroa (talk) 01:11, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Waitangi
Outstanding, if only all such imbalances in life and Wikipedia were so quickly and easily remedied! Some little edits are bigger than others. Cheers, DBaba (talk) 02:39, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! You are welcome. Kahuroa (talk) 02:57, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Huhu beetle
Hi, do you happen to know whether "pepe tunga" is an appropriate name for the Huhu beetle or Huhu grub? I can not find an online reference which supports this. I had always assumed Huhu was the usual Maori name. I find "tunga haere" and "tunga rākau" for the grub and "tunga rere" for the beetle. Any idea on this one? Thanks, --Tony Wills (talk) 08:16, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Pepetuna (not pepe tunga) is the puriri moth. I'd say huhu is the usual Māori word while the terms "tunga haere" and "tunga rākau" for the grub and "tunga rere" for the beetle are the Tūhoe dialect terms. Kahuroa (talk) 01:45, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
 * ps huhu seems to be the grub only according to the dictionaries. Kahuroa (talk) 04:06, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks :-). So is there no common Maori term for the beetle?  The Huhu article has had "pepe tunga" from when it was created, it appears to now be widely quoted around the net :-(. --Tony Wills (talk) 12:28, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
 * looks like huhu is the grub (and also in related languages. But that doesnt mean there wasnt a term for the beetle - it might take a bit more research. Kahuroa (talk) 20:29, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Couple of sources: Best (re Tuhoe)

and Miller re Maori insect names etc. Miller has some terms for the beetle. But the Maori Language Commission-produced Te Pataka Kupu dictionary, p1005, gives tunga rere for the beetle. That's plenty good enough for me Kahuroa (talk) 21:24, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks again. I have had a go at amending the article, feel free to correct my mistakes :-) --Tony Wills (talk) 23:11, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Tai Tokerau in Mau Piailug
You substituted a different wikilink but you did not replace the misguided wikilink (diff) I removed. That link was to Tai Tokerau which is about a church group (I believe) unrelated to Sir James Henare. Do you know whether the name Tai Tokerau originates from geography/history or appears in legend? (Was there a Maori migration canoes group of the same name? (--not that I read in the wiki article about the migration canoes at least.) Was it the people who were Tai Tokerau or was it the area they settled that they named Tai Tokerau?)  Sir James mentions "the five tribes of Tai Tokerau." The Northland Region of NZ is also called {Te} Tai Tokerau by Maori, but the wikilinked article also fails to mention where the name comes from or describe its significance. Is there anything better than a wikilink to Northland Region masked with Tai Tokerau to explain this? Maybe that Northland Region article is the place that could use a sentence about this name? Thanks! –Newportm (talk • contribs) 23:02, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah I realise that my edit summary is a bit ambiguous, and that the new link isn't perfect either. (Te) Tai-tokerau is the Maori name for Northland, literally te tai = the sea, tokerau = north wind, but it isn't completely synonymous with the English term "Northland region", because as in the Sir James Henare quote, it symbolises the Maori people of Northland and carries overtones of respect for them.  When I added the link I I thought about proposing on the NZ Wikipedians noticeboard that we write a disambig page for Tai Tokerau. It's also a parliamentary electorate (Te Tai Tokerau), and lots of other organisations use the term. I don't think it would warrant an article of its own though.  Kahuroa (talk) 23:35, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Māori Wikipedia
Would you mind taking a quick look at mi:Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart. The language doesn't look much like Māori to me.- gadfium 20:50, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * You're right. I've deleted the article. The language looked like an amalgam of Hawaiian and Hungarian. Kahuroa (talk) 20:54, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Non-Signatories Section of the Treaty of Waitangi Article
Why did you delete the non-signatories portion of the Treaty of Waitangi article? The key issue I was trying to present was that tribes who did not sign the treaty, whose populations amount to around 100,000 Maori or 1/7 of the country's indigenous population, are actually treated as being bound to it. I think its prudent to include this information on the article, and insight into particular cases. It also provides some insight into how the King Movement was initiated.207.62.238.139 (talk) 17:07, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Mucho tiempo no hablar!
Hey man

Como te vas? Long time no talk! My 3 month wikibreak ended up turning into a year-long absence of leave, lol, so I'm a bit out of the loop. I have been busy however, running a forest conservation fundraiser (out of which I plan to found a new charitable trust named after the Huia!), learning Spanish and studying away at uni. What have you been working on lately?

Last time I checked "Huia" was still the most recent NZ wikipedia article to get bumped up to FA. I know the process now and I intend to get another NZ bird article to FA before the year is out - I will have shitloads of spare time over Summer, because I get student allowance even thougt the courses I'm doing A) don't last very long and B) are pretty easy. So i'm just going to go apeshit a la biblioteca gathering references and then just go for it. You'll know which one I have chosen when the flurry of activity begins, haha!

All the best,y hablar pronto Kotare (talk) 07:44, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

edit
I removed "unmistakeable from this edit since it sounds like broken english Pass a Method   talk  09:27, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

File:Tararua Range and Mt Dundas 20 August 1909.jpg
Hi Kahuroa, I've discovered that the photographer of this picture you uploaded died in 1964, so it seems to be a copyright violation. I've tagged it accordingly and dropped the relevant template on your Commons talk page. I'm just telling you here in case you read this page before that one. --Avenue (talk) 08:58, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Article on the Kingitanga State?
See talk pages:
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Māori_King_Movement
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_New_Zealand/M%C4%81ori_task_force#Article_on_the_Kingitanga_State.3F

I am wondering if there should be a new article created for the state or confederacy ruled over by the Maori monarchs of the Kingitanga and allied chiefs. It seems like from the time the confederacy was formed in around 1858 until 1881, when the Kingitanga Movement began leaving aside isolation and finally made peace with and opened up to the settler government, the Kingitanga functioned as an independent state.

From what I understand, the Kingitanga held power over a substantial portion of North Island, originally centered in the Waikato Region. Then the settler government under Governor Grey interpreted their existence as a threat to British sovereignty and justified attacking them and initiating the Land Wars in the Waikato based on a claim that Ngati Maniapoto warriors helping other tribes fighting settlers in Taranaki Region were Kingitanga agents. After brutal fighting, the Kingitanga government occupied Ngati Maniapoto territory and became a neutral player throughout the rest of the Land Wars although remained independent from and at war with the Colonial Government until they opened what had by then been regarded as "King Country" in 1881. Afterwards, they progressively integrated with the rest of New Zealand over several decades, beginning with rail projects several years after peace was established although the Tainui chiefs and Maori king directly ruled the territory and didn't suffer land confiscations and settlement quite on par with other regions which allowed for a higher-than-average Maori population to exist there even to the present day. Unfortunately, not all of this is in the Kingitanga Movement article, and I'm not sure if it would be best for some parts of this to be applied there or if the Kingitanga should actually have its own state article for the period between 1858 and at least 1881 or 1894 (the year when the second Maori King, Tāwhiao, died) in addition to the existing article on the Maori King Movement.

Based on this background, do you think it is reasonable to create a new article for a state with this information included or that it should be included only here in the Maori King Movement article or both or neither?Nanib (talk) 00:06, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

The following are relevant articles on nzhistory.net.nz, a New Zealand government history resource (that you likely already know of) that is a wealth of information for New Zealand and even other Polynesian histories, which I believe would be helpful to consider:

http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/politics/maori-king-movement-1860-94/build-up-to-war http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/politics/maori-king-movement-1860-94/response-to-war http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/politics/the-maori-king-movement-1860-94/raupatu-confiscations http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/politics/maori-king-movement-1860-94/maintaining-te-kingitanga http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/politics/the-maori-king-movement-1860-94/tensions-ease

WikiProject Plants Collaboration of the month
I'm attempting to revive the Plant article COTM, and since you're a member of WikiProject Plants, you're being notified about this hopeful revival. Please feel free to propose articles for collaboration, and thanks for your consideration! Northamerica1000(talk) 13:54, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Main page appearance: Huia
This is a note to let the main editors of Huia know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on February 6, 2013. You can view the TFA blurb at Today's featured article/February 6, 2013. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask featured article director or his delegates, , and , or start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests. If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you can change it—following the instructions at Today's featured article/requests/instructions. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. The blurb as it stands now is below:

The Huia, which became extinct in the early 20th century, was the largest species of New Zealand wattlebird. It belonged to a family found only in New Zealand, one so ancient that no relation is found elsewhere. Already rare before Europeans arrived in New Zealand, it was confined to some mountain ranges in the south east of the North Island. It had deep metallic, bluish-black plumage with a greenish iridescence on the upper surface, especially about the head. It was remarkable for having the most pronounced sexual dimorphism in bill shape of any species of bird in the world. The female's beak was long, thin and arched downward, while the male's was short and stout. The last confirmed sighting was in 1907. Its extinction had two main causes: overhunting to procure Huia skins for mounted specimens for museums and private collectors, and widespread deforestation by European settlers to create agricultural pasture. The Huia is one of New Zealand's best known extinct birds because of its bill shape, its sheer beauty and special place in Māori culture and oral tradition. Māori regarded the bird as tapu (sacred), and the wearing of its skin or feathers was reserved for people of high status. UcuchaBot (talk) 23:03, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!
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New Challenge for Oceania and Australia
Hi, WikiProject Oceania/The 10,000 Challenge and WikiProject Australia/The 5000 Challenge are up and running based on The 10,000 Challenge which has currently produced over 2300 article improvements and creations. The Australia challenge would feed into the wider region one and potentially New Zealand could have a smaller challenge too. The main goal is content improvement, tackling stale old stubs and important content and improving sourcing/making more consistent but new articles are also welcome if sourced. I understand that this is a big goal for regular editors, especially being summertime where you are, but if you'd like to see large scale quality improvements happening for Oceania and Australia like The Africa Destubathon, which has produced over 1700 articles in 5 weeks, sign up on the page. The idea will be an ongoing national editathon/challenge for the region but fuelled by a series of contests to really get articles on every province and subject mass improved. The Africa contest scaled worldwide would naturally provide great benefits to Oceania countries, particularly Australia and attract new editors. I would like some support from existing editors here to get the Challenges off to a start with some articles to make doing a Destubathon worthwhile and potentially bring about hundreds of improvements in a few weeks through a contest! Cheers.♦ --MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:12, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

Category:Polynesian mythology (multi-region) has been nominated for discussion
Category:Polynesian mythology (multi-region), which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. BDD (talk) 15:35, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

ESEAP Conference
Hello Kahuroa,

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Copyright problem: Percy Smith (ethnologist)
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