User talk:Kairapapa

Kim Fowley
Please do not reinstate your paragraph again without providing reliable published sources for the information, and please also remember to retain a neutral point of view. Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:04, 19 January 2015 (UTC) Dear Sir: I recently attempted to add a paragraph to the Kim Fowley page. re: my band, St John Green, and the musical recording produced by and recorded with Mr. Fowley in 1968. The paragraph also contained reference to the engineer and record company that released that creation with the band members names included. I found the paragraph to be reasonably non-toxic and certainly not derogatory in any manner. It is a real and tangible piece of music, with albums and CDs of same being still being offered for sale as we write this response. I have,(within hours of me writing this response to you), been in contact with a musician from Slovenia who plays one of the songs from that album in his band on stage and have a video he sent to me of them playing it live. I still have signed a dated copies of the contracts in my personal files at home. This is not speculation or conjecture, it is a real and tangible fact... and part of both Mr. Fowley's history and ours as musicians. There are no copyright infringements and, for that matter, the music and production itself has been bootlegged and sold for years without any permission from the band at all. I don't know why Kim chose to exclude this work from his bio.. he refers to it in several interviews that can be found on internet sources and is quoted in same. I am certainly not a large or prolific contributor to Wikipedia, as you prove to be, (and very impressive I must say). Is there something I need to do to add my little paragraph that includes our bands contribution to this history. Being that it is fact Not fiction, I can't see why you would be so immediate and adverse to allowing this addition. You removed the paragraph not once, but twice and requested I not reinstate it without reference to credibility.? Would you please explain why you found this so primarily important to respond in such a manner. I am confused, surprised and a bit offended actually. If you were contracted by Fowley to build his bio? and therefore monitor all responses to these pages I can understand... or, was I treading on a personal piece of work you created and therefore intruding onto your creative space..so to speak. I only wish to add an additional piece of history to Kim Fowley's history and add credibility to ours as past co-creators of one of Fowleys' more infamous creations. A response would be appreciated. Thank you Kairapapa


 * No problem. I'm sorry if you were offended by my actions - that wasn't my intention, it's just part of the normal way this site works.  What you need to do, when you add information to Wikipedia, is provide reliable, already published evidence that what you say is true.  I don't doubt you... but, to contribute to Wikipedia, you should recognise that it is based on information that has already been published by reliable sources, and not what you, personally, know or believe to be true.  It is up to anyone adding information - not anyone else - to provide those sources.  That is a fundamental feature of Wikipedia.  But, having said that, it's clear that sources do exist to support what you are saying - like this, this, this.... etc.   What I suggest is that you re-add some of your information to the article, supported by references like these.  I, or other editors, can then "wikify" it to make sure it meets formatting standards.  (By the way, the article has been completely written by volunteer editors like myself - I doubt if Fowley himself had anything to do with it.)   But I should also warn you that it is possible that other editors might consider that your band's involvement with Fowley is not sufficiently notable, in itself, to be worth mentioning... so, like anything here on Wikipedia, it might be removed again, rewritten, re-added, removed, re-added, etc. etc... that's just the way it goes here, all the time!   By the way, when you leave messages on talk pages like this one, you should sign and date your posts, simply by adding four of these tilde symbols: ~  Thanks. Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:04, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
 * PS: I just listened to this. Wow! Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:18, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

St. John Green
You ruined the quote, why would you take essential evidence out? My friend worked hard on it and you just ruined it. Fix it or I will by the end of the day. TheGracefulSlick