User talk:KakiTree

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June 2015
Hello, I'm C.Fred. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Olly Alexander, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Speculation about people should not be included in articles, nor should editors' interpretations of events. —C.Fred (talk) 17:47, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about living (or recently deceased) persons, as you did to Olly Alexander. ''"and is in a relationship with Clean Bandit's violinist Neil Milan Amin-Smith" was not accompanied by a reliable source. "The evidence of the relationship is shown by a sequence of social media postings by Alexander and Milan on their respective social media accounts from early summer 2015. At a request to Alexander via Instagram to publish a selfie together rather than just one of the boyfriend" is just a load of social media junk/speculation.'' Joseph2302 (talk) 13:28, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

You've already been warned about this - stop it. Smurfmeister (talk) 13:41, 22 June 2015 (UTC) Reported under 3RR. Smurfmeister (talk) 10:28, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Edit warring: 3RR
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Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Keri (talk) 10:38, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

In reply:

Think I'm having an edit war with myself actually on "openly" !. Since I changed it myself last night taking it out since I thought it was too judgemental from a straight perspective and also from a gay perspective indicating a way of life rather than just gay. Then today I was reading the Guardian and saw how the use of "openly" gay was used in relation to the R1 gay guy and him taking over the ITV talent show as judge, with the text as the first time an "openly gay" person has been on the panel. So decided it wasn't as bad as I thought it was and didn't carry baggage.

I'm easy on this now I think but I do always like to change my mind in life, admit to my own mistakes and correct them, so Smurfmeister is agreeing with my edit of last night :). Just gay is totally sufficient (I though that last night), "openly" puts on the qualifier from the point of the reader whether straight or gay or bi. That's why I took it out since it had been put in sometime ago, it never had it in before. That's why I agree with Smurfmeister but the edit rule violation is with myself in 12 hours not Smurfmeister !. You'll see on my earlier edit when I put in a reference around there that I said I wasn't happy with the word "openly" but would leave it. Then had a change of mind and took it out. Then changed it again this morning having mused over it, checked dictionary definitions, still wasn't happy but the saw an illustration of it's use, so Smurfmeister agrees with my first edit that it should go, harrah I think.

You can read my text when I dispatched that word off last night so yes, happy to keep openly out of it since obviously he's open about and is singing about his ex boyfiends and current. That's why I took it out since it didn't add anything and carried potential baggage.

Also glad that we've now got a better published link to the relationship. So looking even better now.

I don't know how these discussion pages go but have edited it here.


 * If you wish to respond to the edit warring noticeboard you may add your response at Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. Meanwhile, the two citations that I added to the article from published third-party sources should be acceptable to and so we can all sit back for tea and biscuits and enjoy the pleasant weather. Keri (talk) 12:17, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Well I still can't find where I should add comments and I do note that some Wiki people do the old footballing trick of diving !.... when the game is somewhere else. I can't be bothered.

Anyhow Keri there is an even better link now on the Sunday Times article 28th June. The issue is, it's behind a pay wall you can read it via the Google Cache and it's fairly powerful stuff from Olly Alexandra. Now I think it could be linked in place of the US link or with. Somebody I suspect will come along with it and add it in, in any case I guess. The pay wall link http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/style/living/article1572217.ece. So whilst as said you can read it via the Google Cache, you don't have a better way of indexing it ?. Will leave it up to you. Life's, too shorts and I'm going on my hols and I don't play football or get involved with people that dive !. The couple are now doing media interviews, but the Sunday Times one is the best I've seen so far. It dependents on what the narrative is and whether it offers anything better. If it could be easily indexed it's better than what you found. Blame it on Murdoch.

OK here's it is outside of a pay wall http://www.thespec.com/whatson-story/5700225-olly-alexander-and-neil-amin-smith-s-relationship-going-really-well-/  <<< do edit in if you think it adds to it or link to the main article.
 * Sorry, wasn't ignoring you, just hadn't noticed. (You can attract someone's attention to a discussion, by the way, using eg ) The Times article looks useful, I'll give it a read. Keri (talk) 18:25, 30 June 2015 (UTC)§

Keri still on holiday. Small screen, see people have been hacking, not sure its back to where it was, but here is another link that might be useful. But Neil isn't named as bf, US values for you.

≤≤≈≥ http://www.out.com/music/2015/7/07/best-years-ever-gay-frontman-olly-alexander-years-years-hits-pops-sweet-spot

Keri can you get this in against the album release still on hols, link below≥ Just needs the text of going in at number one and link.

http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/years-years-debut-at-number-1-this-is-the-best-day-of-our-lives-__10091/

It went in at number 1.
 * ✅ Keri (talk) 20:39, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Keri thanks for the last one. Here is the citation that is required for the Nina Simone bit

https://jameelaoberman.wordpress.com/2011/05/10/disorder-magazine-years-years/

I don't think the Mag itself has an online library but that's the reference too it's possibly by the journalist that wrote it. The Simone text is sprinkled across the web and Y&Y twitter feed of that period makes reference to it. https://twitter.com/yearsandyears/status/67565418964983809 So it wasn't someones fantasy.

I reckon it should read UK Disorder Magazine in 2011.... blah blah rather than music journalists etc.

Keep up the good work of keeping the page sane. I notice it seems to have moved from that he's not gay, but he's now someone elses....

OK since I didn't raise you via a ping, I've edited it in myself. So whilst the text said journalists, obviously the source of this goes back to one person and then the rest just repeat. As said above Year & Years made reference to this in their twitter feed soon after the publication and I believe as presented the journalist who wrote it in Disorder Mag at the time, this is their website, other than that you are stuck for references since Disorder Mag don't seem to have a back library.

So yeah, I wouldn't have minded you looking at it, but given I'm back from my hols I can edit myself now.

4Music
This Week's Fresh Music Top 20 doesn't just show the video, it also gives assorted bits of information which the link you've replaced it with. It's a new episode each week, an episode airs tomorrow at 7:30pm, not sure when the new episode is. Unfortunately, recent episodes lack the signature footnotes...-- Laun  chba  ller  20:37, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

OK. I'll leave it up to you. Indexing the video is good.

DYK for Shine (Years & Years song)
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:27, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Olly Alexander
Hi there - I see you've been heavily involved with editing this article and other Years & Years stuff on Wikipedia, so just wanted to let you know I've done a big copyedit on Olly Alexander. A lot of grammar fixes and such, as well as removing a bunch of content that isn't actually about him. I've also removed quite a lot of quotes from the article (or reworked them) to flow better—see our guidelines on the (over)use of quotes for more reasoning on this. Thanks for all your work in this area! — foxj 15:00, 17 December 2015 (UTC)