User talk:Kalai alahi

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Hello, Kalai alahi. Welcome to Wikipedia! I'm Suneye1, one of the other editors here, and I hope you decide to stay and help contribute to this amazing repository of knowledge. Remember to always sign your posts on talk pages. You can do this either by clicking on the button on the edit toolbar or by typing four tildes   at the end of your post. This will automatically insert your signature, a link to this (your talk) page, and a timestamp.

 Sincerely, SUN EYE 1 17:00, 27 July 2021 (UTC)   [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Suneye1&action=edit&section=new&preload=Template:WelcomeVisual/user-talk_preload (Leave me a message)]

SMK Sungai Nibong moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, SMK Sungai Nibong, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. John B123 (talk) 19:37, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of Plus/Minus (film) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Plus/Minus (film) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Plus/Minus (film) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. BOVINEBOY 2008 14:19, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Minus (August 9)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by AngusWOOF was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Plus/Minus and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Plus/Minus, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "Db-g7" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
 * If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
 * If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:Plus/Minus Articles for creation help desk], on the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:AngusWOOF&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:Plus/Minus reviewer's talk page] or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

AngusW🐶🐶F ( bark  •  sniff ) 14:20, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

August 2021
Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give a page a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into Plus/Minus (film). This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

In most cases for registered users, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page (the tab may be hidden in a dropdown menu for you). This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Requests for history merge. ''Please do not copy drafts and paste into the main space. It disrupts the edit history of the article and circumvents the article submission process.'' BOVINEBOY 2008 14:23, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Conversing via edit summary by reverting and then unreverting
People are unlikely to see your edit summary unless they watch the article edit history (and maybe not even then, if other edits happen in the interim and they are only viewing the most recent edit to the page on their watchlist). It's better to discuss in discussion/talk pages (like this one, or the talk page of an article) where you can ping the person you're talking to by linking their username and you have more characters to work with to explain your position. In fact, in the case of my reversion of you on Cole Sprouse where you restored your edit and then undid it (presumably just to communicate with me), that's what I was suggesting in the rationale I put down for my revert--to discuss that kind of change on the talk page if you wish to see it happen. Consensus on that article in the past has been to not include that information. Consensus is when editors who edit an article discuss what they think is best to do on an article and then agree to do that. Editors on Cole Sprouse's article agreed that it was better and more in line with Wikipedia guidelines and policies not to include information about his love life with Lili Reinhart. Technically you don't have to discuss in order to try to change consensus and you could just do it through editing, but in many scenarios (including this one, IMO) it's better to propose a change to established consensus by raising a discussion on the article's talk page than to try to do it by edit and potentially end up in an edit war.

(I feel the need to further note that saying "other articles do this, too" as you seem to have done in the Cole Sprouse undo-communication, is a WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument, which isn't always the best point to raise for keeping information, particularly if consensus or content guidelines are not on your side.) - Purplewowies (talk) 14:16, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:SMK Sungai Nibong
Hello, Kalai alahi. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:SMK Sungai Nibong, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again&#32;or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 20:02, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:SMK Sungai Nibong


Hello, Kalai alahi. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "SMK Sungai Nibong".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the, , or  code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Eternal Shadow  Talk  19:36, 29 January 2022 (UTC)