User talk:Kalathalan/Archive 13

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A humble request
I'd like to ask you to help me out with implementing the Hawaiian language in the other Wikimedia projects, since I can't think of many other users who know or study Hawaiian and are active Wikipedians. There's a lot of fruit to be picked, and one user can't do all of the work :) If you'd like to help, holler back; if you're too busy, it's alright.  Singu larity  05:20, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the quick response. Well, in case you didn't already know, there's a lot of other places to help out that don't require much writing work and time (look at my todo list, for example).  Singu larity  03:53, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Hawaii WikiProject Newsletter - Issue III - June 2008
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Apostrophe
Hi. With regard to your 'corrective' edit to the Apostrophe article, please note that the mis-spelling womens is intentional: it illustrates the poor grammar on Tesco's signage. Thanks. Chris 42 (talk) 12:08, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Translation
Hi. I was wondering what E Ola Ke Alii Ke Akua translate to in Hawaiian. I inferred that it might be God Save the King since Akua=God and Alii=King. I don't know what the other phrases means of course and my knowledge of the language doesn't go pass guessing and inferring.


 * Also I notice this part of the song has 7 lines in Hawaiian and 8 line in English. Could there be translation errors or is?

KAVEBEAR (talk) 03:49, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

By and By, Ho'i Mai Oe (By and By Thou Wilt Return)
Is this translation reliable? KAVEBEAR (talk) 23:22, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Uh. This one, By and By, Ho'i Mai Oe = By and By Thou Wilt Return. DuhKAVEBEAR (talk) 00:12, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Translation yet again
Ku`u Ipo I Ka He`e Pu`e One what does it mean. I left this: Ku`u Ipo I Ka He`e Pu`e One translated to as Blank on the article List of Compostions and Works of Princess Likelike of Hawaii. Translate it so it sound like a title. Thank You. KAVEBEAR (talk) 06:00, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Is there any difference between Ku`u Ipo I Ka He`e Pu`e One or Kuu Ipo Ika Hee Pueone. Does Pu'e One=Pu'e 1 or is one actually a Hawaiian word  KAVEBEAR (talk) 06:00, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I've found a translation. Does Ku`u Ipo I Ka He`e Pu`e One = My Sweetheart In the Rippling Hills?  KAVEBEAR (talk) 06:22, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * How about the other songs on List of Compostions and Works of Princess Likelike of Hawaii do they translate.  KAVEBEAR (talk) 06:23, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Look here Category:Liliuokalani's Compositions and check if the songs translated write. Also I thought there was no letter T in the Hawaiian alphabet so what explains Tutu (Granny)      KAVEBEAR (talk) 20:34, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Is there a meaning to Muolaulani? I remember I read on a site that it meant something like pupa or something related to bugs.  KAVEBEAR (talk) 06:51, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * How about Manu Kapalulu does it mean Quail?
 * Isn't Pelekane the compound word of two Hawaiian gods Pele and Kane? How can't it mean England. I though England was Beretania.

Ahe Lau Makani
Here is the English Lyrics and down there is the Hawaiian. Could you seperate them out please.

We, fair one, together, shall enjoy such moments While murmuring wind sweeps over my fatherland KAVEBEAR (talk) 08:33, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Kauikeaouli
Did Kamehameha III, aka Kauikeaouli, ever speak, read, wrote in English? I notice most of his documents are in Hawaiian. KAVEBEAR (talk) 20:52, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Spelling
I notice there is always different ways to write Hawaiian names. Like Liliuokalani could be Lili'uokalani, Liliu-o-kalani, Liliuo'kalani, Lili-u-o-ka-lani, and etc. How would Keawe Awe'ula-o-Kalani be written? The only other way is Keaweaweulaokalani, that I could find. And what is the proper way to okina the name Kaoanaeha and is Kealiiahonui correct or Keliiahonui? KAVEBEAR (talk) 01:59, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Which is more accurate Kapiohookalani or Kapiiohokalani? And what does it translate to?     KAVEBEAR (talk) 20:54, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Can Hawaiian names be all jumbled up like Kualii could be Kualiilanipipililanioakaiakunuiakealuanuuokuiialiiikahalau? Also the a between names like Kiha-a-Piilani and Keawe-a-Heulu.  I noticed it is practiced among alii aimokus and other aliis with their personal name than their father's or mother's.  Was it how the ancients referr to these chiefs or is it more modern?  Also does it matter on the importance of once's father to allow this as Kakuhihewa was never known as Kakuhihewa-a-Kaihikapu and his father, Kaihikapu-a-Manuia, was inconspicuos in comparison to him.  This is also like the naming law passed by Kamehameha IV requiring all Hawaiians to use their father's name as their surname.   KAVEBEAR (talk) 07:22, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Joining WikiProject Hawaii
E aloha mai ia oe, e Kai. E mahalo nui for the nice message you left on my talk page. E kala mai, please forgive my Hawaiian. I am still struggling to grasp the basics of the language.

I would like to join WikiProject Hawaii but my time is rather limited at the moment. I don’t mind, however, doing what I have been doing, which is correcting minor errors in English grammar on pages that I run across. Conversely, I would feel extremely uncomfortable making edits that would materially change the actual content on a page – and would only consider doing such a thing only after having discussed it with the project group, or whomever supervises the page in question, first.

I guess what I’m trying to say is, I’d be happy to join you guys if you don’t mind that my participation would be somewhat limited in scope.

And by the way, I really want to extend my compliments to all of you out there who have contributed to the Hawaii portion of Wikipedia. I can’t begin to tell you how very impressed I am with the volume and quality of material. It’s truly impressive! Ka-Ma-Iki (talk) 02:41, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Ancient Names
Do you know the ancient name of each of the eight islands of Hawaii? Like Kauai's is Kamawaelualani. And do you know all the chief his name are affixed as a sobriquet to the island over which they ruled? Kauai = Kauai-a-Manokalanipo (Kauai of Manokalanipo), Oahu = Oahu-a-Lua and Oahu-a-Kakuhihewa, Hawaii = Hawaii-a-Keawe, Maui= Maui-a-Kama and `O Maui o na hono a`o Pi`ilani (O Maui of the many bay of Pi`ilani). But I don't know the rest and who is Kama? KAVEBEAR (talk) 23:19, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

July newsletter
If you have some ideas for the July newsletter (theme: Hawaiian religion), please share them on the news bureau page, or add them directly to the July issue. And if you have some thoughts about topics for the August issue, please share them on that page. Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 08:24, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Hawaii WikiProject Newsletter - Issue IV - July 2008
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Hawaii Ponoi
Do you know what was the other form of Hawaii Pono'i used by the Republic of Hawaii? The current one is the state and kingdoms anthem but the Republic changed the word king to people or something democratic in meaning. I think it was Be loyal to your king, changed to Be loyal to your people or the people or the nation. KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:37, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ka‘ahumanu IV (Wikolia Ka mehamalu Keawe nui Ka‘ahumanu a Ke kū anaō‘a = Victoria Kamāmalu

What does Wikolia Ka mehamalu Keawe nui Ka‘ahumanu a Ke kū anaō‘a mean?
 * I recognized the Keawenui, Kaahumanu, Kekuanaoa, and the Kamehamalu, but what is Wikolia. Victoria was also called Ka lehelani, Kiheahealani; what do those mean.  Can Alexander be Hawaiianized to  Alekanedero or Alekanetero? Which one is more accurate? Also do you think Matiao Kekuanaoa is actually Hawaiianized form of Matthew Kekuanaoa.  KAVEBEAR (talk) 03:20, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Did you answer me about Mataio?

Does Ka Mea Ki ‘eki ‘e =Highness? KAVEBEAR (talk) 03:42, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Poo-uli, Po'o-uli, Po'ouli or Poouli
Please join the discussion on the name of that unfortunate late bird here. It is an ex species, it has ceased to be. Sabine's Sunbird  talk  02:58, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

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Names
Keopuolani = the gathering of the clouds of the heavens Kauikeaouli = hanging in the blue sky Kamamalu = the shade of the lonely one Hoapili = close adhering companion Kaahumanu = the feather mantle Liliha = the fat of hogs Auhea = literally where, Kapiolani = the captive of heaven Kalakua = the way of the gods Kahekili = thunder Paalua = twice blind,


 * I sure they are right except for Liliha, Kapiolani, which I though was rainbow arch; and Kalakua. If liliha means the fat of hogs what does Kuini Liliha mean.
 * I got these from History of the Hawaiian Islands: Embracing Their Antiquities. By James Jackson Jarves. Page 108

Is Asa Kaeo a Hawaiian name? Notice the S which isn't in the Hawaiian alphabet. But I think she lived prior to the foreigners. Sorry, I think she was granddaughter of Kalaniopuu.

I notice that sometimes the macron on top of a vowel actually affect the meaning of the word, in the Hawaiian language. I know Kukaniloko means (To Anchor the Cry From Within), then does Kūkaniloko, the name of an Oahu Queen, relates the war-god Kū?
 * I know Hale O translates to House of. But was the House of Kamehameha ever referred to as Hale O Kamehameha?KAVEBEAR (talk) 00:49, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi Kalathalan, I was wondering what's a ulu? And the meaning of a ulumaika. KAVEBEAR (talk) 07:20, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Check Mopua and read the ending paragraph. Write what you think it means. KAVEBEAR (talk) 08:53, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

The number that Bishop Musuem catalogue it. I think. Thanks a lot. Your sound much better. KAVEBEAR (talk) 20:51, 29 August 2008 (UTC) Do you think you can edit in what the ulu maika is used for and for what sport?


 * Ka Poo Hoolewa I Ka La, what does that translate to? KAVEBEAR (talk) 05:47, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It is a tabu or kapu from the family of Kaakaualaninui. Do you think Ka Poo is a mispelling of Kapu?  I think it might be.  KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:24, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Tell me if I am wrong. Kawelo = The waving of the flag and Aikanaka = Cannibal.  What does Lupe mean? It is short for Lupekapukeahomakalii (Sacred Lupe of Fine Fishlines).


 * Ancient Kauaians had flags? What does Kalona mean?  Like Kawelo it is also the name of a noble family.KAVEBEAR (talk) 03:50, 23 September 2008 (UTC)  Do you know the proper way to kahiko Haka of Oahu?

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Namaka (moon) and Hi'iaka (moon)
I removed the project tag before I looked at the history and saw that you added it. Go ahead and add it back if you want. Do you really think this is within the scope of WPHawaii? Viriditas (talk) 14:36, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Main Page redesign
The Main Page Redesign proposal is currently conducting a straw poll to select five new designs, before an RFC in which one will be proposed to replace the Main Page. The poll closes on October 31st. Your input would be hugely appreciated! Many thanks, P retzels Talk! 10:23, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Hawaii WikiProject Newsletter - Issue VIII - November 2008
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Samuel Kamakau
Good job creating this article. Have you thought about pursuing a DYK so that you can get it on the main page? Viriditas (talk) 12:56, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I might be able to help you. Tell you what, can you come up with the hook at least?  You can even add several different ones to the DYK nom.  Hold off on nominating it until I can help add cites, but at least compose it in your user space...does that sound like a plan? Viriditas (talk) 00:13, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, and I also wanted to comment on what you said about mixing sources. That's perfectly acceptable as long as you aren't making an argument (and it doesn't look like you are, you're just listing historical facts and events).  So, it should be easy to add inline citations.  I'll try and help out.  Please think about working on the hook(s). :) Viriditas (talk) 00:29, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm planning to add my changes to Talk:Samuel_Kamakau/Temp where you can choose to use them or not in the main article. I'm not quite ready yet. Viriditas (talk) 00:54, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * No worries. I can help out with the hook if you like as well.  Right now, I'm working on the temp page, removing the cites from the lead and placing them in the body, and making some general copyedits and expansion where necessary.  You are free to move stuff over to the main article whenever you like or change it around however you choose. Viriditas (talk) 03:16, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I made some new changes to the temp page. Please take a look. Viriditas (talk) 14:33, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I expanded the article with more information about the Royal Historical Society. I'm still working on it. Copy over whatever you think best. Viriditas (talk) 00:59, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Excellent work on the DYK. It looks very good.  Please copy over the new version of the temp page whenever you get a chance. I've fixed a few sources. Viriditas (talk) 07:31, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

FYI...Thrum's biography (see further reading section) on Kamakau is amazing. Unfortunately, I'm having trouble reading two important pages. Six things the current article needs to have added: 1) Expand the Lahainaluna school section. There's a lot of information about this time in his life and Dibble's influence, and it is very interesting how he crossed paths and worked closely with some of the more important people in Hawaiian history; 2) Add more information about his colorful character, much of which has been written about, i.e. he was highly intelligent, possessed a great memory, loved to debate, etc; 3) the supposed controversy regarding his early Protestantism and later Catholicism (and whether this influenced his academic research, see Obeyesekere for a critical view); 4) More details regarding his political career; 5)  Kamakau's work on Native Hawaiian projects, such as the Olona (Touchardia latifolia)  plant project; 6) The works section could be expanded with much more information about his research (such as describing the trilogy in more detail). There's also the extensive (exhaustive!) list provided by Thrum. It would also be helpful to include a current bibliography with modern ISBN's. Lots to do! :) Viriditas (talk) 09:38, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Kamilo Beach
User talk:Anna Frodesiak created Kamilo Beach on Dec. 1, and the article is a prime candidate for a DYK. She's a fairly new user, so is there any chance you can help submit a DYK for her? Whatever works. Since you're on a roll, I thought you might like the opportunity to get another DYK. :) Viriditas (talk) 12:39, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I want to let you know that some of the sources used in the article seem to be inaccurate, so proceed cautiously. I believe the article needs to be checked for accuracy. See also the talk page. Viriditas (talk) 13:11, 4 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Dear Mr Kalathalan, I just read some of the DYK info. I fainted from mental exhaustion twice. If you feel that the article is fit for this mystifying thingamabob, please submit it (if it is a simple thing for you to do). I still don't know if it is good or bad. Perhaps the selected winner will become notable. Perhaps he will be beaten with an eel. It is all quite a mystery to me. Thank you.--Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:22, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Wonderful! The obvious hook would seem to be the accumulation of marine debris from the Great Pacific Garbage Patch. The point of drawing attention to Kamilo is to draw attention to this revolting garbage patch and its sheer size. This garbage patch is simply bombarding the Hawaiian islands. That is the point.
 * http://www.honolulumagazine.com/Honolulu-Magazine/July-2008/Getting-Trashed/
 * I am not sure that is what you wanted me to write, but that is the crux. Nobody cares about a swirling mass of garbage unless it affects something. Well, it affects Kamilo more than anything else. Its horror is exemplified there.--Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:47, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Your hook suggestion: Love it! It's a peach! Slightly inaccurate, in that Kamilo proper is half a km long, but the adjacent beach is 4.5 km. Still, let's do it. Errrr.....how? --Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:12, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Deadline
FYI... Just a friendly reminder: Kamilo Beach was created at 07:46, 1 December 2008. Just wanted to remind you about the deadline. If you can't do it, let me know and I'll jump in, but looking at Anna's talk page, it seems like you're almost ready. Viriditas (talk) 10:21, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Not sure if it can get in under the deadline but I have a good title "IT'S A BEACH TO KEEP CLEAN."
 * Catchy, huh?

--Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:22, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Mandarin
Hi. I saw in your user page that you want to learn Mandarin. I am a Canadian living in China. (I am the person who started the Kamilo Beach page). IF you are a beginner then I suggest Chinesepod and the following. If you are not a beginner then don't read on.

I don't suggest phrase books. I suggest writing three or four sentences out in Chinese (pinyin) then writing the English below it word for word to get a handle on the syntax. I don't suggest learning zillions of nouns. I suggest learning the following words and how to use them:

I you he she we they it be can will come go want have see understand forget remember know call tell give take who what where when why how if and or not then so but maybe howabout every any some all this that these those here there 123456789 10 20 before after now soon later around

I am leaving out tons. That is just off the top of my head, but those go a looong way.--Anna Frodesiak (talk) 16:59, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Kamilo Beach

 * Wow! I just saw it on the Main Page. Thank you all for your efforts. I am tickled pink! You folks really know how to snap into action. You should be in charge of the planet.--Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:53, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Portal:Hawaii/Did you know
BTW, if you enjoy DYK work, I've got about five in the hopper. Just say the word, and I'll get the ball rolling and turn them over to you. Or if you like, I can drop you a line when each article is created. On a separate note, as you may or may not know, User:Jonny-mt was maintaining Portal:Hawaii until the economic crisis forced him to take some time off (at least that's what I think he said). As you can imagine, I need some help maintaining the portal, and I've asked User:The Obento Musubi to lend a hand, but he's been off and on. So, now, I'm turning to you! :-) You don't actually have to do this task, but I figured I would ask to see if you are even interested.  Here's the deal:  Portal talk:Hawaii/Did you know lists 18 DYK's that have appeared on the Main Page.  I want to move them to Portal:Hawaii/Did you know and replace the current DYK's that appear there, which are user-created DYK's that never went through the DYK process.  But, I want the Portal DYK's to rotate on each reload, like Portal:California (you can look at their code to see how it is done).  If you don't feel comfortable doing this, then that's ok, but I could use your help. Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 08:58, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Just saw that you did some more work on the Portal in addition to the DYK rotation. Good work.  Update: I wanted to let you know that I would like to bring both Niihau and Amaranthus brownii to GA soon.  I'm not sure how much time you have to take a look at both of those articles, but we could submit a peer review for Niihau.  I did that for Amaranthus brownii, and it was very helpful, but I still haven't finished addressing all of the issues.  BTW, I made some comments on Talk:Plate lunch. Viriditas (talk) 08:35, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Wiktionary
When you add translations, please link the word to its target, even if the target does not yet exist. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:50, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia Loves Art in Honolulu Feb 14, 15 and 27
Rad all about it!--Pharos (talk) 20:09, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Concerning: TransWiki
Hello Kal; my name is Habatchii and I am interested in helping in the TransWiki Hawaiian translation project. I am fairly new at the TransWiki format but it looks pretty simple to pick up. Please contact concerning general orientation and any gopher / multi-tasking items that I could help with during my interim.

Thank you for your professional response...

Habatchii (talk) 01:00, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Concerning: All Active Agenda Listings
Hi; thanks for the info. I just needed to ask about the To Do list (agenda) for TransWiki. I see that a lot of areas could be updated, maybe you could share a few tips on streamlining for the agenda. Also, I was considering the main Wikipedia project and their workload, would you suggest a timeline or simply take it one step at a time?

Thanks again;

Habatchii (talk) 02:42, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Creating a wiki page for the word "hanai"
Is there a page that covers the cultural topic of "hanai"?

As far as I can tell, there is no extant wiki page for hanai, either under Category:Hawaiian_words_and_phrases (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Hawaiian_words_and_phrases) or elsewhere under topics related to Hawaiian culture. Moreover, I regret to say that the level of my Hawaiian language fluency is not sufficient enough to allow me to determine on my own whether there is a page on 'hanai' within the Hawaiian Language wiki portal: Ka papa kinohi

Reasons to create a page for hanai.

While reading the wiki page on Keopuolani, under the "Children" subheading the last sentence stood out: "She would break Hawaiian tradition of hanai and keep her daughter Nahienaena by her side." Because I am part Hawaiian and personally familiar with certain aspects of Hawaiian history and culture, I readily understood the full meaning behind the phrase "... tradition of hanai ..." as a specific form of adoption practiced by ancient Hawaiians.

There still may be a few families who have preserved this specific form of hanai, it has all but disappeared as a general practice. The word hanai, however, survives to this day and remains in wide use in the lexicon of the local vernacular. I am certain that you are well-aware, Kalathalan, that the deliberate use of the word hanai between locals is meant to express a unique notion of adoption, one that is different, with important distinctions, from the way adoption is practiced and perceived elsewhere, such as the form most common to the contiguous U.S. mainland states for example.

Further, it should be noted that the entire connotation of what is meant by the word hanai is not merely one of pure academic or anthropological interest but one that has important implications in the lives of some, today. One of these is in regard to the lawful conveyance of the title to land. Conflict can arise because the full implications of whathanai implies contains inconsistencies with the statutory regulations used to facilitate the proper transfer of real property between families members and non-blood hanai relatives.

Creating my first page.

Those reasons listed above seem sufficient enough to create a page (should none currently exist) but were I to decide to take on this task, I think it wise to mention that it would represent my first wiki page creation, and therefore, aside from the proscribed format and technical guidelines, I would like to ask what else is there that I should be aware of? For instance, is there someone currently working on Hawaiian cultural topics? It would be pointless to duplicate the same effort.

Mahalo,

Kamaikiokalani (talk) 10:48, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Kinooleoliliha
Hello. I haven't talk to you in a really long time. I wrote an article on Kinooleoliliha, and I was wondering what Kinoole means. I know "o" is of and liliha is "the fat of hogs".--KAVEBEAR (talk) 06:29, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day, and Holidays!


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Still around?
Hello, not sure if you are still around on Wikipedia. I have been trying to work on the Hawaii-related articles but do not speak the language, just use dictionaries. One question I had for a long time was the name of the Hulihee Palace. It is usually translated as "turn, flee" which matches a dictionary meaning, but why would someone name a house that? Since these same words can mean so many things, my guess is that another meaning really was intended. Mahalo if you have any ideas. W Nowicki (talk) 22:14, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Kaikio'ewa
Aloha Kalathalan! I'm just wondering if you know what the name Kaikio‘ewa means in the Hawaiian language. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 10:19, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

John Kameaaloha Almeida
It's been a long time since you worked on this. Will you soon be publishing it as a Wiki page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maile66 (talk • contribs) 20:58, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Learning Hawaiian
Dear Kalathalan, I am interested in learning Hawaiian, do you know places I can get books, or places I can go to learn it?

Maloha, by CaimTakei (talk) 16:56, 28 February 2010 (UTC)CaimTakeiCaimTakei (talk) 16:56, 28 February 2010 (UTC).

more Hawaiian
If you have a chance, some more questions. I did a little bit on Pohukaina which sources say come from pohu ka ʻāina, but from Pukui I would think ka ʻāina pohu would mean "the calm land". What significance would the word order be?

The other issue is that we had a flurry of work on the 1840s era. The Kamehameha III motto is usually translated in the same words as used then, but it sounds dated to today's ears. In particular, "righteousness" nowdays is often not a complement - sounds a bit too puritanical. Modern translations I have heard give "pono" more a sense of "balance" or "moderation", although not Pukui. I seem to recall a "green" paraphrase somewhere as something like "the key to sustainability is balance". Or maybe something like "doing the right thing keeps the nation alive" rather than the literal mid 19th-century one. But of course would need sources and not original reseach. Any ideas? Mahalo. W Nowicki (talk) 21:08, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Mind helping me with some English to Hawaiian translations?
Hi there,

My name is Alohilani, and despite my Hawaiian name, being from Hawaii, and having family in Hawaii, I have very little knowledge of the Hawaiian language. And so while doing some good old Googling on advice for translating to Hawaiian, I came upon a page in which you were responding to a Wiktionary question in which someone needed help translating some phrases to Hawaiian... and so now I am writing to see if you would be interested in helping me translate some of my own phrases.

This is for a tattoo I've been planning for the past year. I've spent a good long time making sure that I've figured out exactly what I want on my body (considering its permanent and all), and I've finally figured it out! Except one small part: I would like to translate the phrases into Hawaiian, to honor my Hawaiian heritage that I love so much.

The phrases are: (1) I shall always love my sisters. (2) I will always remember my home. (3) I shall forever stand by my friends. (4) I will forever search for the truth.

Now obviously it doesn't have to be in that exact wording, because I understand the huge differences in grammar between languages. Lol, but if you do take this upon yourself, I would be extremely grateful! I'm still going to try on my own of course, but it never hurts to try what resources I find first :D

Thank you very very much for your time. I hope to hear from you

Sincerely, fellow Wikipedian, Alohilani1215 (talk) 23:09, 19 May 2010 (UTC)Alohilani

Expanding request
Hello, I have created the haw:Selena page and would like if you can translate it and expand the article, if you can. Thank you AJona1992 (talk) 12:00, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

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