User talk:Kaldari/Archive 22

Massviews Analysis tool
It is excellent and theoretically replaces and improves upon the previous popular pages stats eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Psychology/Popular_pages. However the one sticking point seems to be that there is no option to incorporate nested categories so eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Psychology_articles or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Psychology_articles_by_quality does not work as it just leads to lower level categories. If this were to be done any duplications for articles that appear in more than one sub category would need to be stripped out. However, as it stands Massviews Analysis is of limited use as an unconsolidated list for each class eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:C-Class_psychology_articles is less useful than https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Psychology_articles_by_quality in terms of a stats list.

Presumably https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Psychology_articles_by_importance would theoretically give the same consolidated outcome as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Psychology_articles_by_quality but the same issue applies with its sub categories as before. --Penbat (talk) 07:53, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * There are two possible solutions. You can add a MAIN_CAT parameter to the WikiProject Psychology template, which puts all the tagged articles directly into that category. Or you can create a PagePile via PetScan and use that in the Massviews tools. Kaldari (talk) 16:49, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Thx - i'll look into that. BTW the guys here seem to be doing a similar thing in a different way https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Anime_and_manga/Popular_pages https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Community_Tech_bot. Shouldnt there be some cordination ? --Penbat (talk) 16:59, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Glossary of arachnology terms
Improving Glossary of arachnology terms has been on my to-do list for some time. As with all glossaries, it's difficult to avoid plagiarism accusations, because short definitions have to be precise, which means there are few ways to word them. It definitely needs more diagrams. I've posted some questions at Talk:Glossary of arachnology terms; I'd welcome your thoughts. Peter coxhead (talk) 08:04, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Hot articles for Womens health
Hello! I looked at the instructions for installing a hot articles bot and it is light years beyond my abilities. Could you set up a bot for Womens health?
 * Best Regards,
 * Barbara (WVS) ✐   ✉  10:02, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review - Newsletter No.4
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refToolbar 2.0a
Hi Kaldari, I'm currently working on re-implementation of refToolbar on cs.wikipedia (we've been using a local copy of 2012 version of the tool, which is now quite obsolete and buggy) It works well for the most important variation "2.0b" but I'm afraid the other version 2.0a (without "wizards") doesn't work neither in Czech Wikipedia nor here at EN. If I deactivate "wizards" in my preferences, refToolbar seems to initialize succesfully and icon shows up. However, the script itself is dead - nothing happens if I click the icon. I've asked other users to test that for me and I also tried different browsers (MSIE, Chrome, Firefox). Can you confirm whether refToolbar 2.0a is working as intended? Thanks!

(If you want to test that in Czech Wikipedia, you currently have to switch on two Gadgets - one blocks an old sitewide script while the other initializes the new one I'm working on. But it behaves in the same way as here on en.wiki so if it gets fixed here, I can adapt CS scripts later.) --Michal Bělka (talk) 14:58, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it looks like there is a bug. In the 2.0a variant, the button is getting added twice, once to the main toolbar and once to the Advanced toolbar, but only the one in the Advanced toolbar works. I'll see if I can fix it. Kaldari (talk) 17:07, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
 * OK, I think it's fixed now. Kaldari (talk) 17:52, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Great, thank you! --Michal Bělka (talk) 20:24, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Autopatrolled
I wasn't aware of that policy, thank you for letting me know. PensRule11385 (talk) 20:14, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Mail
— usernamekiran (talk)  21:52, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Do you think the contributions of user in question are something to be concerned about? Reards, — usernamekiran (talk)  07:31, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi,
 * Sorry, hadn't had a chance to look over them yet. I should be able to today though. Kaldari (talk) 18:34, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Kindly do not hurry, or let this task interfere with your other works. This is also a minor request (taking a look at the user's contributions). I am aware you are busy person with wiki groups, and you must be busy in real life as well. So your response means a lot. Thanks again. — usernamekiran (talk)  18:44, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I looked through several of their recent patrolling actions and they seem to be OK as far as I could tell. I was also impressed that they were checking for copyright violations, which most patrollers don't (which is fine). Were there any specific reasons you were concerned? Feel free to email me if you want to cite some diffs. Kaldari (talk) 19:47, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your feedback. Even though the user has been here for very long time, and definitely a good-faith and hardworking editor; their talk page (now archived) gave me an impression they are still not familiar with much of the wikipedia policies. I couldnt judge their patrol history, so I had to ask you. Seems like my concern was baseless. Thanks a lot for investing your time again. — usernamekiran (talk)  20:01, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Still makes mistakes
Here the bot falsely marks the pal.rem site as dead, again, Huldra (talk) 20:48, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Page Curation
Ryan, I'm really sorry if I have upset - you are both some of the good guys and I (and many of the others I work with) really appreciate your efforts on our behalf, not only, but also during the set up of the New Page Reviewer  group. I would really like to work with you on the development of a new Page Creation Flow in extension to Jorm's work - I'm just waiting to be asked. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 19:23, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Thiyya people are not Ezhavas
I am from North Kerala, and The thiyya people are entirely different from Ezhavas of Southern Kerala, Rahuldev1810 (talk) 10:21, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

This is to inform you that an attempt is being made to overturn an RfC that you voted on
This is to inform you that an attempt is being made to overturn an RfC that you voted on (2 RfCs, actually, one less than six months ago and another a year ago). The new RfC is at:

Village pump (policy)

Specifically, it asks that "religion = none" be allowed in the infobox.

The first RfC that this new RfC is trying to overturn is:


 * 15 June 2015 RfC: RfC: Religion infobox entries for individuals that have no religion.

The result of that RfC was "unambiguously in favour of omitting the parameter altogether for 'none' " and despite the RfC title, additionally found that "There's no obvious reason why this would not apply to historical or fictional characters, institutions etc.", and that nonreligions listed in the religion entry should be removed when found "in any article".

The second RfC that this new RfC is trying to overturn is:


 * 31 December 2015 RfC: RfC: Religion in infoboxes.

The result of that RfC was that the "in all Wikipedia articles, without exception, nonreligions should not be listed in the Religion= parameter of the infobox.".

Note: I am informing everyone who commented on the above RfCs, whether they supported or opposed the final consensus. --Guy Macon (talk) 03:26, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

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Status of hotarticlesbot
Hey Kaldari, just checking that status of this (to see if anything's changed) - on the maximum article number of wikiproject the bot is able to handle these days, and it's still not applicable to a task force, right...? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:57, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Subscription is based on categories, so task forces are fine as long as there is a category that directly includes all of the task force's articles. Maximum article number is 50,000 (for performance reasons), but I might be able to raise this if there is a compelling reason to. You can now subscribe to HotArticlesBot yourself at User:HotArticlesBot/Config.json. Kaldari (talk) 23:22, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
 * In fact, there are already a couple task forces using HotArticlesBot: WikiProject Insects/ant task force/Hot articles, WikiProject Aviation/Aviation accident task force/Hot articles. Kaldari (talk) 08:01, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
 * This is fantastic news! Thanks muchly! I will try it out. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:25, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:O Magazine cover.jpg
 Thanks for uploading File:O Magazine cover.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

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RFC closed
I have closed the RFC at Talk:PhiloSOPHIA which you initiated. The result was that editorial boards should not be included in articles about independent journals unless an independent source attests to their importance. Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns about this closure. Cheers, Tazerdadog (talk) 18:48, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

The Black Woman is God Edit-a-Thon in San Francisco, July 22
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Re-RfC on including Wikibooks into search results
I thought about requesting closure on "Village pump (policy)", which hasn't gained much attention. However, I wonder whether another 30 days are needed. To me that won't be necessary, but what's your opinion on this? --George Ho (talk) 11:37, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
 * The discussion has been extremely slow and it doesn't seem like many people really care one way or the other. I doubt that will change much if we leave it open for another month. I would be fine with going ahead and requesting closure. Kaldari (talk) 20:45, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

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Belated thank you for a photo contribution
Hi Kaldari! As a fellow contributor and someone with a bit of a fascination with salticids, I thought you might be happy to know that I was able to make use of one of your photos of a Magnolia Green Jumper as the lead image when I created Lyssomanes viridis a couple of days back. Just a pity she had to languish in obscurity for four years first. ;)  S n o w  let's rap 07:47, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Replaced some images in your .js files
Heya. I just replaced some now-deleted close buttons in a few of your scripts - namely User:Kaldari/topalert.js, User:Kaldari/topalert2.js, and User:Kaldari/bottomalert.js. Just a heads up! — fox 22:32, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

WikiProject Pink Floyd
Hi, since the additional WikiProject options for albums, songs, and progressive rock have been removed from the Pink Floyd WikiProject banner template, can you help me add the WikiProject Albums, Songs, and Progressive Rock banner templates to the articles in which they now don't appear. For example, before if you added "album=yes" "album-importance=Top" "prog-rock=yes" "prog-rock-importance=Top" to the Pink Floyd banner, the assessments would be automaticaly added to those projects, now I will need to go through each article individually to add the WikiProject Albums, WikiProject Songs and WikiProject Progressive Rock banners, as appropriate. Also, since this is an issue to incorporate multiple banners, could you also have a look at WikiProject The Beatles? I'm worried about that one because there are going to be so many to fix. Thanks. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 16:28, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I would be happy to help. Regarding WikiProject Progressive Rock, it seems like that might make sense as a parent project of WikiProject Pink Floyd. If so, it would not be necessary to tag it separately. What do you think? Kaldari (talk) 16:49, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I focus on the albums and songs tagging/assessing anyway, so if you can handle Prog Rock that would be great. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 16:53, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Article alerts
Hi Ryan, it was very nice to meet you at Wikimania. I've started a follow-up discussion to what we've discussed concerning the future of Article Alerts (link above). Please comment there. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 10:59, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Event co-ordinators
Hi, I have seen the withdrawal at WP:VP regarding the AFC trial. For the record, I'd oppose your suggestion of a new user group, too, unless it is extremely narrowly defined. I think you've misunderstood what a lot of people said in the withdrawn proposal and, in any event (sic), even so-called experienced contributors have made a right mess of some events, including the Dalit History and India Education edit-a-thons. The "experience" needs to be not merely in Wikipedia but also in the subject matter. I was shocked at just how bad the DHM thing was, although perhaps should not have been given who was involved, the vested interests, and what had happened on the previous occasion there was a "push" here in relation to the off-wiki campaign. - Sitush (talk) 13:10, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Araghi
The page Iraqi lists people who come from Persian Iraq. --Z 18:07, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've moved that list into the Persian Iraq article, as it doesn't really belong in the disambiguation page. Kaldari (talk) 18:13, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

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Zoë Quinn's PGPs
Hi Kaldari,

In the last several months, you've participated in a discussion on Talk:Zoë Quinn about which preferred gender pronouns to use in the article. So I thought I'd give you a heads up that I'm starting a WP:RFC to hopefully resolve this issue! You can find the relevant discussion here.

Regards. -- Shibboleth ink (♔ ♕) 18:31, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

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refToolbar: invalid self-closed HTML tags
Hi Kaldari!

MediaWiki:refToolbar.js (and its counterpart cs:MediaWiki:RefToolbar2B.js at CS.wiki) is now listed as a  page using invalid self-closed HTML tags.

The same applies for MediaWiki:Gadget-refToolbarBase.js and cs:MediaWiki:Gadget-refToolbarBase.js.

Is there any way to fix it? Thanks! --Michal Bělka (talk) 17:26, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Bug filed: . Kaldari (talk) 00:12, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Ways to improve Agaropectin
Hi, I'm Pmaccabe. Kaldari, thanks for creating Agaropectin!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. I don't have access to one of the two sources cited, and I added one more, but I think some of the information here is inexact or unclear. From what I can tell as a non-expert agarose and agaropectin are the two components of agar, one doesn't contain the other, and the ratio can be different depending on the source of the agar. More sources and additional clarification of some of the language or links would help the article.

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse.

Phil (talk) 00:57, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Family Guy lead, redux
Please see Talk:Family guy, about resolving questions not resolved in the earlier RfC. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ &gt;ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ&lt;  17:06, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Sergeants' Revolt
— Maile (talk) 01:17, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

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Hernán Cortés
I backed out your change; the usage of Hernán vs Hernando vs Fernando is already covered further in the article. Adding that in the lede just seems to clutter it up. Regards, Tarl N.  ( discuss ) 03:57, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

More Cuba history?
Hi Kaldari,

I can handle a few more translations of Cuba articles, if you have any suggestions. Was pleased to see how the first round got picked up and much improved by others, notably Groupuscule, yourself, and some others, too. (For previous context, see this discussion.) Mathglot (talk) 16:36, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Warm feelings to all. Mathglot, might I point to República de Cuba (1902-1959) as an index of articles and possible candidate for translation. (The present Republic of Cuba (1902–1959) may have some material that's not duplicated. But the Spanish article looks a lot better. On the other hand translating a higher-level article may be redundant when English versions exist at the relevant subpages.) Carretera Central de Cuba, Protesta de los Trece, Manuel Márquez Sterling are all possibilities, not that I'm saying any are essential or that these pages are so so good.
 * Also, if you are interested in branching out into Central America I think there might be something to be said for translating some of Historia de Honduras and some subtopics.
 * To Kaldari, or anyone else, I might add José Miguel Irisarri (1895–1968) of the pentarchy and Joaquín Martínez Saenz (1900–1970) of ABC to the list of desirable Cuban biographies (with no articles on es.wikipedia either). I suspect there is a lot that Spanish-language readers can contribute by reading Spanish-languages sources beyond es.wikipedia. Cheers, groupuscule (talk) 02:20, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * As for Irisarri, I think the reason there's no article is that there are no sources, at least, I couldn't find any. EcuRed might have some info, but I think that if Wikipedia is not a reliable source, then the Cuban governmental Wiki EcuRed cannot possibly be considered reliable. In fact, finding reliable sources for Cuban history is a general problem.
 * Might consider other Central America, but coincidentally Honduras is a bad choice, at least for me, because during the X2 Review process I looked at a lot of horrible translations by who was eventually blocked.  That doesn't taint the subject, of course, and I'd encourage anyone else to look at Honduras I just would rather work somewhere else after banging my head against that pile of junk for a while. Mathglot (talk) 06:12, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Reply
I replied on the Nashville talkpage.Zigzig20s (talk) 15:16, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

EF 861
Hi K, just a question on the tweaks you made to EF 861, nesting parens in the conditions. My intent was for all conditions to be met in order to fire, so I'm just wondering if nesting parens helps performance, readability, etc. I.e. is there a difference between "A & B & C & D" vs "A & (B & (C & (D)))"? Looking to make the most efficient filters possible, so thanks! Crow Caw  14:16, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

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ʻOumuamua
Hello, Kaldari – I need to ask you a favor. I just spent half an hour copy-editing ʻOumuamua – a lot of small edits, including adding conversion templates, that would tedious to repeat. When I went to save my edits, I got an edit conflict. So that I don't lose all my work, would you be willing to re-do your edits of the last few minutes if I override your edits? If not, then I'll just leave it as is. No big deal. Best regards, – Corinne (talk) 01:20, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh sure! I can redo mine. Kaldari (talk) 01:21, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh, thank you. Now let's see if it works. – Corinne (talk) 01:22, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * It seemed to work. I apologize for causing you extra work. – Corinne (talk) 01:27, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * No worries. Thanks for the copyedit! Kaldari (talk) 01:29, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

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HotArticlesBot
Hi Kaldari, I just added WikiProject Bahá'í Faith to HotArticlesBot's subscription list a few days ago, but it doesn't seem to be updating yet. Should I expect it to take a little time to get started, or is it possible there's an error? (Sometimes bots get messed up by the fact that the WikiProject name has an apostrophe and special characters in it.) Thanks. dragfyre_ ʞןɐʇ c 21:36, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * There was a bug in the bot code for handling category names that had single quotes in them. It's fixed now! Kaldari (talk) 22:03, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Aha! Thanks so much for the quick follow-up :) dragfyre_ ʞןɐʇ c 22:55, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

call statistics Wikipedia
Hello, Unfortunately, the ad of the statistics is often flawed (twitching, crashing) in Firefox / Vista.

greetings

Manfred --Manfredgoellner (talk) 10:14, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

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Backlog update: Outreach and Invitations:
 * The new page backlog is currently at 12713 pages. Please consider reviewing even just a few pages each day! If everyone helps out, it will really put a dent in the backlog.
 * Currently the backlog stretches back to March and some pages in the backlog have passed the 90 day Google index point. Please consider reviewing some of them!
 * If you know other editors with a good understanding of Wikipedia policy, invite them to join NPP by dropping the invitation template on their talk page with: . Adding more qualified reviewers will help with keeping the backlog manageable.

New Year New Page Review Drive
 * A backlog drive is planned for the start of the year, beginning on January 1st and running until the end of the month. Unique prizes will be given in tiers for both the total number of reviews made, as well as the longest 'streak' maintained.
 * Note: quality reviewing is extremely important, please do not sacrifice quality for quantity.

General project update: If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, go here. —  TonyBallioni (talk) 20:27, 12 December 2017 (UTC) 
 * ACTRIAL has resulted in a significant increase in the quality of new submissions, with noticeably fewer CSD, PROD, and BLPPROD candidates in the new page feed. However, the majority of the backlog still dates back to before ACTRIAL started, so consider reviewing articles from the middle or back of the backlog.
 * The NPP Browser can help you quickly find articles with topics that you prefer to review from within the backlog.
 * To keep up with the latest conversation on New Pages Patrol or to ask questions, you can go to Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers and add it to your watchlist.

It's that time of the year...
It's that time of the year, Ryan. No fancy template, but just wishing you all the best for the holidays and the new year, and thanking  you  for  all  you  do. It's probably a lot warmer where I am than where you  are 😎 Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:47, 21 December 2017 (UTC)''

Mike Buchanan (politician)
Hi Kaldari. Any chance you could take a look at this Talk:Mike Buchanan (politician) for me when you have a minute. Thanks. --The Vintage Feminist (talk) 15:05, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Discussion at Village pump (proposals)
You are invited to join the discussion at Village pump (proposals). Winged Blades Godric 11:14, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
 Merry Christmas !!

Hi, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year,

Thanks for all your help and contributions on the 'pedia! ,

– Davey 2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 13:43, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

New Years new page backlog drive
Hello, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

Announcing the NPP New Year Backlog Drive!

We have done amazing work so far in December to reduce the New Pages Feed backlog by over 3000 articles! Now is the time to capitalise on our momentum and help eliminate the backlog!

The backlog drive will begin on January 1st and run until January 29th. Prize tiers and other info can be found HERE.

Awards will be given in tiers in two categories:


 * The total number of reviews completed for the month.
 * The minimum weekly total maintained for all four weeks of the backlog drive.

NOTE: It is extremely important that we focus on quality reviewing. Despite our goal of reducing the backlog as much as possible, please do not rush while reviewing.

If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, go here. — TonyBallioni (talk) 20:24, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Mary Shelley
I've looked through the archives and all I can see is Mabbett doing what he does best, and that's being disruptive. As far as I can see there are only two discussions with regards to the infobox and on each occasion a consensus was not formed to have one. How is it that there is one now?  Cassianto Talk 
 * Only because Adrianne was no longer around to defend it and I was tired of arguing about it. FWIW, I just reverted the infobox at another of Adrianne's (less trafficked) articles, in case you want to watchlist it: Letters Written in Sweden, Norway, and Denmark. Kaldari (talk) 23:41, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Watchlisted. And I just drew the Shelley article back to how Wadewitz would've wanted it.   Cassianto Talk  07:10, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Greetings, hope you're doing ok. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mary_Shelley#Request_for_infobox. FYI], re the above.  Cassianto Talk  09:47, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Userpage Q.
I just wanted to ask what the green circles with the plus sign are, over on your userpage proper...? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noble Korhedron (talk • contribs) 18:56, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
 * That is the symbol for a Good Article. Primefac (talk) 18:57, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:A Girl Is a Half-formed Thing.jpg
Thanks for uploading File:A Girl Is a Half-formed Thing.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 18:24, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

InternetArchiveBot : bad choices for news sites and blog entries

 * most newer archived instances tend to be 404 and similar.
 * better to chose oldest archived instance.
 * Sofía Vergara :
 * BAD (bot) "Page not found" :
 * https://web.archive.org/web/20141018035720/http://www.diariolasamericas.com/news.php?nid=91194
 * GOOD (oldest archived instance) :
 * https://web.archive.org/web/20110718180118/http://www.diariolasamericas.com/noticia/91194/sofia-vergara-duelo-en-navidad
 * 64.175.41.94 (talk) 09:02, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer Newsletter
Hello, thank you for your efforts in reviewing new pages!

Backlog update: New Year Backlog Drive results:
 * The new page backlog is currently at 3819 unreviewed articles, with a further 6660 unreviewed redirects.
 * We are very close to eliminating the backlog completely; please help by reviewing a few extra articles each day!
 * We made massive progress during the recent four weeks of the NPP Backlog Drive, during which the backlog reduced by nearly six thousand articles and the length of the backlog by almost 3 months!

General project update: If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, go here. 20:32, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * ACTRIAL will end it's initial phase on the 14th of March. Our goal is to reduce the backlog significantly below the 90 day index point by the 14th of March. Please consider helping with this goal by reviewing a few additional pages a day.
 * Reviewing redirects is an important and necessary part of New Page Patrol. Please read the guideline on appropriate redirects for advice on reviewing redirects. Inappropriate redirects can be re-targeted or nominated for deletion at RfD.

SFMOMA Edit-a-Thon in San Francisco, March 8
You're invited to an Art+Feminism Edit-a-Thon at SFMOMA in San Francisco on Thursday March 8, 5-9 pm. It'll be at 151 Third Street, 2nd floor, free to the public. Everyone is welcome to participate in an evening of communal updating of Wikipedia entries on subjects related to gender, art, and feminism. (This message is from User:Dreamyshade. You can subscribe/unsubscribe to San Francisco event talk page notices here.) MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:58, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

March 2018
So let's talk about this: is there a constructive reason you changed "homeopath" to "sociopath" at List of conspiracy theories, in contradiction to the cited source? Because this looks an awful lot like vandalism, which I would not expect from an editor with your history and user rights.  General Ization Talk  02:26, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I thought it was some kind of typo. Is it really supposed to be "homeopath"?? LOL. Feel free to revert if so. Kaldari (talk) 02:38, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
 * See homeopathy. And see the cited source (linked just above). Already reverted.  General Ization Talk  02:39, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Your draft article, Teahouse


Hello, Kaldari. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Teahouse".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the, , or  code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. —SerialNumber54129 paranoia / cheap shit room 08:36, 27 March 2018 (UTC)


 * HOW ~ Amory  (u • t • c) 10:54, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
 * lol, someone must have used one of the AfC templates on the Teahouse page. Kaldari (talk) 14:04, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

New Page Review Newsletter No.10
Hello, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages! ACTRIAL:
 * ACTRIAL's six month experiment restricting new page creation to (auto)confirmed users ended on 14 March. As expected, a greatly increased number of unsuitable articles and candidates for deletion are showing up in the feed again, and the backlog has since increased already by ~30%. Please consider reviewing a few extra articles each day.

Paid editing
 * Now that ACTRIAL is inoperative pending discussion, please be sure to look for tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary.

Subject-specific notability guidelines
 * The box at the right contains each of the subject-specific notability guidelines, please review any that are relevant BEFORE nominating an article for deletion.
 * Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves with the new version of the notability guidelines for organisations and companies. A further discussion is currently taking  place at: Can a subject specific guideline invalidate the General Notability Guideline?

Nominate competent users for Autopatrolled
 * While patrolling articles, if you find an editor that is particularly competent at creating quality new articles, and that user has created more than 25 articles (rather than stubs), consider nominating them for the 'Autopatrolled' user right HERE.

News To opt-out of future mailings, go here. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:06, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
 * The next issue Wikipedia's newspaper The Signpost has now been published after a long delay. There are some articles in it, including ACTRIAL wrap-up that will be of special interest to New Page Reviewers. Don't hesitate to contribute to the comments sections. The Signpost is one of the best ways to stay up date with news and new developments - please consider subscribing to it. All editors of Wikipedia and associated projects are welcome to submit articles on any topic for consideration by the The Signpost's editorial team for the next issue.

Bobby Lovett
Thank you. I've changed the tag from "in use" to "under construction". Feel free to expand it. I will do more later with book reviews from JSTOR.Zigzig20s (talk) 16:10, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of File:Persondatascreen.png


The file File:Persondatascreen.png has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Old orphaned esoteric file."

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the file's talk page.

Please consider addressing the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and files for discussion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. ~ Rob 13 <sup style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">Talk 17:44, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks
- from me too. This has been a milestone in WMF-Community collaboration, and I hope it continues.Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:56, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Bay Area WikiSalon invitation!
Please join us in downtown San Francisco!



Periodically, on the last Wednesday evening of the month, wiki enthusiasts gather at Bay Area WikiSalon to munch, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.

We allow time for announcements, informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. Bring a friend! Free Wi-Fi is available so bring your editing devices. This months focus is images!

We will have beverages (including beer and wine) plus light snacks (maybe pizza too!).
 * For further details and to RSVP, please see: Wikipedia:Bay Area WikiSalon, May 2018 (note: we are meeting at the new WMF HQ at 120 Kearny Street!)

See you soon! ,, , and | (Subscribe/Unsubscribe to this talk page notice here) | MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:22, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.11 25 May 2018
Hello, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

ACTRIAL:
 * WP:ACREQ has been implemented. The flow at the feed has dropped back to the levels during the trial. However, the backlog is on the rise again so please consider reviewing a few extra articles each day; a backlog approaching 5,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.

Deletion tags
 * Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders. They require your further verification.

Backlog drive:
 * A backlog drive will take place from 10 through 20 June. Check out our talk page at WT:NPR for more details. NOTE: It is extremely important that we focus on quality reviewing. Despite our goal of reducing the backlog as much as possible, please do not rush while reviewing.

Editathons
 * There will be a large increase in the number of editathons in June. Please be gentle with new pages that obviously come from good faith participants, especially articles from developing economies and ones about female subjects. Consider using the 'move to draft' tool rather than bluntly tagging articles that may have potential but which cannot yet reside in mainspace.

Paid editing - new policy
 * Now that ACTRIAL is ACREQ, please be sure to look for tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. There is a new global WMF policy that requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.

Subject-specific notability guidelines
 * The box at the right contains each of the subject-specific notability guidelines, please review any that are relevant BEFORE nominating an article for deletion.
 * Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves with the new version of the notability guidelines for organisations and companies.

Not English News Go here to remove your name if you wish to opt-out of future mailings. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:35, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, tag as required, then move to draft if they do have potential.
 * Development is underway by the WMF on upgrades to the New Pages Feed, in particular ORES features that will help to identify COPYVIOs, and more granular options for selecting articles to review.
 * The next issue of The Signpost has been published. The newspaper is one of the best ways to stay up to date with news and new developments. between our newsletters.