User talk:Karak1/DraftArticle

My thoughts

 * So, I think you're going to need to do some copy editing. Right now it's a little tough to read. I'd be happy to help with this, but I'm busy enough with work at the moment that it'll be some time until I can get to it. (Or you could ask for help here).
 * You also need to find some reliable references to help establish the notability of the group. (Otherwise it won't stand up to an Deletion discussion). This is really, really important.
 * In the "Karakachan breeds conservation project" section, you have waaaaay to many wikilinks. See WP:MOSLINK for information on what content needs a wikilink.
 * In the paragraphs on the animals, you don't need to include the bulgarian translation in the title. (You could mention it in the first sentence of the sections instead, using the form:
 * Zebra, zèbre in french,....


 * If you have census documents for animals or something like that, link to them when appropriate.

There's probably more to be done, but that seems to be the main bits for now. Hope it helps. -- B figura (talk) 00:39, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Answer
I understand your busyness. Although very busy myselve (work,work).

I rewrote some of it. I hope it is more legible now. The problem is that it is difficult to explain what we do in a easy way.
 * tough to read.

I hope that these links I add are what you mean?
 * reliable references.

I will do that later!
 * to many wikilinks.

I removed them. You are right, they are not needed.
 * bulgarian translation in the title.

What do you mean with census documents? Census=counting, I know that. But what are census documents? English is not my native language. Karak1 (talk) 23:56, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * If you have census documents for animals or something like that, link to them when appropriate.


 * Sorry, what I meant was do have any pdf reports that you could link to. Also, for the references, you probably should format them using in-line citations, so it's more clear which references support which facts. I'll try and have more feedback when I have a bit more time. Best, -- B figura (talk) 00:12, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

One thing
That I keep seeing is that you seem to be putting in line breaks into the wikicode. I.e., hitting enter or return to end a line. You don't actually need to worry about what lines end where, the wikicode will sort that out. (And it can break some functionalities). Basically, the only times you need to hit enter/return are for separating paragraphs (in which case you want to leave a blank line between pargraphs, like:

This.) Lemme keep editing though, -- B figura (talk) 20:34, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

I think that is because I copy past the text. But I also did not know I can write without a return. I am not so long on Wikepedia....! I learn a lot :-) Karak1 (talk) 22:14, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Changes
So I made some changes, but overall it's vastly improved. The only that still needs more work is the breeds section. Right now, it's a bit disorganized, and it seems like some of the information might be repeated. I've gotta go, so I can't make more comments now though. One thing that would be helpful though would be the addition of in-lin citations. (See WP:CITE.) That way people can tell which fact is backed by which reference. (One way to make that easier is to go to Special:Preferences, go to the gadgets tab, and check the box for refTools. It adds an extra button to the editing toolbar that makes it easier to generate inline citations). Best, -- B figura (talk) 20:48, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

I think you did a great job! I am glad with the changes. I just kept staring and staring. Semperviva is not boring, the projects are not boring, but these reports are. So it is a bit difficult to make them legible for all. So I am glad with your help. Karak1 (talk) 22:19, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

the breeds section
I added the button for in-lin citations, but it seems not to work. I rewrote the text and I think it is improved. The repeated information is removed (I hope). Could you give an example of a in-lin citation? Karak1 (talk) 22:58, 7 May 2008 (UTC)