User talk:Karl at Norm Architects

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 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Norm Architects. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 10:44, 16 February 2021 (UTC) You have an obvious conflict of interest and you must declare it. If you work directly or indirectly for an organisation, or otherwise are acting on its behalf, you are very strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. If you are paid directly or indirectly by the organisation you are writing about, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at Jimfbleak. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:   . If you are being compensated, please provide the required disclosure. Note that editing with a COI is discouraged, but permitted as long as it is declared. Concealing a COI can lead to a block. Please do not edit further until you respond to this message. Also read the following regarding writing an article:
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Jimfbleak - talk to me?  11:46, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Your account has been blocked from editing Wikipedia because your username, Karl at Norm Architects, does not meet our username policy. Your username is the principal reason for the block. You are welcome to continue editing after you have selected a new username that meets the username policy guidelines, which are summarized below.Per the username policy, a username should represent an individual and should not: represent a group or organization; be promotional; be misleading (such as indicating possession of special user rights or being a "Bot" account (unless approved for such purposes)); be offensive or otherwise disruptive. However, a username that contains the name of a organization and also identifies you individually, such as "Sara Smith at XYZ Company", "Mark at WidgetsUSA", or "FoobarFan87" is allowed, though, among others, the guidance on conflict of interest and the policy of paid-contribution disclosure are relevant.You are encouraged to choose a new account name that meets our username policy guidelines and create the account yourself. Alternatively, if you wish for your existing contributions to carry over under a new name, then you may request a change in username by:
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Appeals: If, after reading the guide to appealing blocks you believe you were blocked in error, then you may appeal this block by adding below this notice. Jimfbleak - talk to me?  11:47, 16 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Well,, I see nothing wrong with the name "Karl at Norm Architects". Indeed, it seems an excellent name for an individual who's working at Norm Architects and is upfront about this. I'd unblock Karl myself, but I invite you to do it. I'm about to go to bed, but after I've got up I'll check on Karl's status. -- Hoary (talk) 13:31, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Jimfbleak I feel like you're not reading what I'm saying - I might be doing it wrong though!;

I'm NOT interested in writing the article myself- How do I request an article on the subject?

Thank you!

/Karl Knudsen


 * I hope that you're unblocked quickly. (If you aren't, I've a mind to unblock you myself. See above.) Once you're unblocked, the place to ask is Requested articles/Applied arts and sciences. -- Hoary (talk) 13:36, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

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Hoary, I've unblocked as requested, but if you are asking me to stick to the letter of the rules, you should bear in mind that you shouldn't unilaterally unblock an account blocked by another admin, as you seem to have intended.

Karl, I won't see a comments here unless you start it with my user name, User:Jimfbleak and sign it with four tildes ~ when you post it. That will send me an alert. I only came here because Hoary pinged me. You said that you are not interested in writing the article yourself, but the fact is that you did exactly that, so you can't be surprised to be warned. You are correct that you shouldn't write the article yourself, and you appear to realise that you mustn't pay anyone do do so, so thanks for that. If, after reading the information about notability linked above, you still believe that your organisation is notable enough for a Wikipedia article (and that there is significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources), you could, if you wish, post a request at Requested articles for the article to be created. I think it's fair to say, though, that you could have a very long wait Jimfbleak - talk to me?  13:47, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your big help, both of you! I'm trying my best to act accordingly, but the platform is quite difficult to navigate as a first-time user.

I hope I've addressed you properly, Jimfbleak.

Norm Architects is a quite esteemed office in Copenhagen, and has been nominated and won numerous awards for both their design and architecture; They are often featured in magazines and prints, like Dezeen and Elle Decoration, and they even have 460.000 followers on Instagram (which I know, by no means entitles them to a Wikipedia page - However, it still contributes to their credibility though). I've read up on all the other architecture offices here in Denmark, and I see many that helps qualify Norm Architects as a candidate as well.

Like you're saying Jimfbleak, I'm not intending on writing the article myself, so I'll try to request it written from someone with no relation to the office; There is no rush with the matter, so even if it takes several months, that's totally fine :-)

Best regards,

KarlKarl at Norm Architects (talk) 14:14, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Just a thought. If you don't want to write the article yourself, you might get more willing editors to create one on the Danish Wikipedia, given you are based in Copenhagen and thus many of the sources regarding awards etc. should be there (see link to that language version from the Main Page). As I don't speak Danish, I can't direct you to the corresponding place to request such an article. If someone does create one in Danish and it is accepted, it will be much easier to have a translated version accepted here (although the standards for notability are not always the same). Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:04, 16 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you for unblocking,.


 * More on requesting an article, Karl. I wish you the best with the request that I see you've already posted. I'm not familiar with that "requested articles" page, but I do know Requested articles/Biography/By profession and I've little reason to believe that anything good comes out of it. Additionally, the links you posted aren't obviously impressive. I (in Japan) looked at one, "Archipelago House by Norm Architects embraces Japanese and Nordic design"; although the building that's discussed already exists, there's no hint in the article of any input by anyone who (i) has actually entered the building and looked around it and (ii) isn't working for Norm. All in all, the "Stir" piece reads like a discreetly composed PR release. Mike Turnbull's suggestion above (requesting an article in dk:Wikipedia) seems better than mine (for "Requested articles" in en:Wikipedia). Looking in Google News for brings a few hits that might add up to something; and of course the company may have been written up in books. -- Hoary (talk) 22:42, 16 February 2021 (UTC)