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Hi, do you know whether there is Survivor Live this season? 108.162.157.141 (talk) 04:29, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
 * No clue. - Katanin (talk) 13:39, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Line breaks
Hey, why do you think line breaks are necessary? I don't think there's any problem with the reward column being stretched. It would be nice to have every column perfectly symmetrical and whatnot, but making line breaks all over the place just to keep it a similar size as the immunity column seems just a matter of having it look good.  G loss  21:59, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
 * It has less to do with making it symmetrical and more of keeping it compact and easily readable. Stretching out the reward section makes it harder to read (at least for me) because there's now all that dead space in the pre-merge section, smack dab in the middle of the table. Plus, I figured it's along the same principle of why we put "1st voted out" and "Day 3" on different lines, because it's like a little list of titles (or, in this case, people who went on the reward), and the discrete breaks allow for at least some distinction of separation. - Katanin (talk) 15:30, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Survivor 32
I don't think it hurts to leave a page on Survivor 32 open. We have sources to confirm where it took place and unlike the Cambodia/Second Chance, the 32nd season taped already. VegasCasinoKid (talk) 07:18, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 * But beyond the fact that it has already filmed in Cambodia and is the 32nd season of Survivor, we don't have any information on it from a reliable source; what's the point in keeping a page up for months when we know there's nothing we can add to it, beyond being a magnet for unsourced edits? It isn't worth the hassle, and right now there's nothing we can say about it that isn't already on the series page - Katanin (talk) 13:58, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Big Brother 17
Can I help with the big brother 17 wiki page? I'm a hard worker and won't mess things up Bsems (talk) 04:24, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Anyone can help! I'm by no means an authority on the pages, just a big BB fan. Looking forward to seeing your contributions! - Katanin (talk) 04:35, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Well right now it won't let me edit because it is locked. How would I undo that? Bsems (talk) 04:38, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Due to vandalism, it can only be edited by autoconfirmed users until July 1; "most English Wikipedia user accounts that are more than four days old and have made at least 10 edits are considered autoconfirmed." - Katanin (talk) 04:55, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Why did you change the verbs in the Twin Twist section to past tense? The MoS says to use present tense unless it's about an event that really is a past event. --A guy saved by Jesus (talk) 02:17, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * My bad, sorry! - Katanin (talk) 02:21, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * It's okay. Just wanted to make you aware of it. --A guy saved by Jesus (talk) 02:21, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

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Big Brother 17
Can you please not update the information on the page until after its aired. The information was updated 4 hours before the show aired and Veto completion won't be until Wednesday and somehow you already have who has won. It ruins the show for people who don't have Big Brother After Dark. Eram0801 (talk) 01:00, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The pages are updated to reflect the live feeds. This has always been the case. Because of the live feeds, something happening in the game immediately becomes public information, and thus is fair game for Wikipedia. Please see WP:SPOILER. Thanks! - Katanin (talk) 02:21, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Survivor Wiki
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Survivor: Cambodia
Hey, it seems the page has been seeing an increase in IP vandalism lately. I have requested semi-protection at Requests_for_page_protection. I was wondering if you could please chime in. It appears the admins have been ignoring the request as younger requests have seen responses and this one has not. If more people come in support, it may finally elicit an admin response. Thegreyanomaly (talk) 01:19, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

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BBCAN3
The example you are providing is irrelevant because the two situations are not the same. In season 2 of Big Brother US, the votes were nullified. In Canada's version, Jordan was removed from the jury. His vote was never nullified and Arisa made this known after it had occurred. It's not the same and this was discussed nearly a year ago. People then decided to leave it as it was. Please stop reverting it, thanks. CloudKade11 (talk) 22:14, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I fail to see a distinction beyond the language used. In BBUS season 2, two of the evicted HouseGuests voted for a winner; after doing so, a twist resulted in their votes not counting. What's the difference with BBCan 3? - Katanin (talk) 22:26, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Because their votes were nullified. Jordan's was not. Evicted and nullified doesn't mean the same thing. CloudKade11 (talk) 22:46, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
 * The result of him being evicted from jury was that his jury vote was nullified. It was cast but it was no longer counted. - Katanin (talk) 23:05, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
 * If that's the case, why revert it? The template already had his vote with a strikethrough. The red background is to show he was evicted from the jury. It's misinforming because the current revision shows his vote was only nullified when that's obviously not the case. Again, this explanation was given when this issue resolved nearly a year ago. Personally, I suggested his vote not even be shown on the template, however, others agreed to have his vote with a strikethrough and a red background. You're making an issue of something that already reached a consensus. CloudKade11 (talk) 04:28, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Survivor: Kaôh Rōng edits
, thanks for your edit summary comments on your undo of my edit. I'm sorry if some of my phrasing was awkward, but I feel it's important to get the facts correct first and then work on phrasing. I'd like to go over them one by one and explain why I thought improvements could be made. Hopefully I've explained myself, and I'd appreciate your thoughts. Reidgreg (talk) 19:20, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * episode 12 immunity challenge: The castaways pulled a rope.  Pulling implies the rope is being held taut (as you said in your edit summary) but I don't believe this was the case in the challenge.  As the contestants distanced themselves from the balancing table, they increasingly let out slack in the rope, and you can see the rope taking on a visible arc.  This is a matter of physics:  as there was a greater length of rope between the balancing station and the contestant, there was more weight from that rope, and that added weight increased the tension along the rope.  Putting slack on the rope compensated for this weight-added tension (compare to a "tight rope" which has a great deal of tension).  That's what made the challenge so difficult, having to constantly adapt the slack on the rope for consistent tension while moving.  So I feel it could use some improvement on "pulled".  "Held" and "used" aren't much better, but at least they don't have the implication that the rope is being held taut.
 * episode 12 immunity challenge results: Cydney edged out Jason to win.  To me, this is overly simplistic and sounds like the challenge was a struggle between Cydney and Jason which I feel misrepresents what happened.  (Besides, didn't Jason's stack fall, which would place him in dead last at the time that Cydney won?)  I feel the challenge was more like the tortoise and the hare (or the tortoise and 5 hares) with Cydney making an unhurried but flawless performance to win after everyone else's stack fell at least once.  That's what I would like to see, however it might be phrased.  More than one contestant "nearly won" this challenge and I don't know why Jason should be singled-out for mention except that he was voted off that week.
 * episode 14 immunity challenge results: Michele came from behind and edged past Tai to win the challenge.  I feel this is notable because Tai was so close - perhaps 3 pieces left of an approximate 54-piece puzzle (6 columns x 3 pieces x 3 layers) - when Michele won.  Also, I don't understand why you think this was awkward enough to delete while at the same time reverting another phrase to Cydney edged out Jason.  I suppose "Michele came from behind to win the challenge, narrowly beating Tai." would be better.
 * episode 14 bonus reward challenge: to stack balls and discs on stands.  I believe if you look at stills from the episode you can see there is something coloured between the white balls.  Stacking balls on top of one another is pretty much impossible.  They not only were stacking balls but also some sort of disc or ring which was also placed using the fork, and allowed stability to stack the following ball.  (This was the unused option of the first challenge of the season.)  You deleted this as trivia.  However, the previous season of Survivor noted the reuse or adaptation of many challenges.  Why is that OK there but not here?
 * Thanks for the message. ! Fair point on those first three. I really like your "Michele came from behind to win the challenge, narrowly beating Tai." suggestion, in particular. I made edits to reflect your proposed changes.
 * The Ep 14 reward challenge description currently reads "to stack balls and stands," with the "stands" being those "something coloured between the white balls." Not quite sure what the proposed change would do differently. Additionally, current practice is to only denote repeated challenges in full returning players seasons, where reusing challenges is deliberate to accentuate the season's status as a returning player season. But by opening the floodgates to all seasons, it can then lead to debates as to which challenges are from previous seasons, or which elements denote inclusion. If we could make it clear in a way that it's different (and not precedent changing), I'd be into it, but since it wasn't a factor in the challenge (since no one took the offer at the start of the season) it just seems too trivial. - Katanin (talk) 21:11, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Agree with "stands".  (I'm honestly not sure what to call them, but stacking balls just wasn't accurate.)  With repeated challenges I understand it could get out of hand but in this case it was from the same season, and it neatly bookended the series by taking an unused part of the first challenge for the last challenge.  (Also it suggested difficulty since tribes avoided that option the first time.)  I may take another look at "Cydney won the challenge."

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Do not add in unverified votes, that's why there are question marks in the table as they didn't show the votes at the end of episode 5.

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 * That's cool that that's how that Wiki organizes it, but I think that splitting the table into three is more confusing, especially because there's no info that isn't already transmitted in the current, consolidated table. Just because another organization does something differently doesn't mean that we have to here; we even have a policy like that regarding within Wikipedia itself (WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS). What issues do you have with the way we currently organize the table? – Katanin (talk) 18:13, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

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