User talk:Kathleenkcameron/American Health Lawyers Association

Requested move
User:Kathleenkcameron/American Health Lawyers Association → American Health Lawyers Association — This is an uncontroversial chnage; please move to regular space. I (kathleen.cameron@gmaiol.com) am the general wiki editor for this professional association, which has not previously had a wikipedia page. Thank you. --Kathleenkcameron (talk) 00:58, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose I'm not a deletionist by any means, I just feel the article should be up to a higher standard before the article is created. There is no wikilinks or referencing or any sort and there is certainly a conflict of interest in taking a member of the association's word on the content... but that's just me. --Labattblueboy (talk) 22:29, 23 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Oppose. This article is very unlikely to survive WP:AFD if it goes live as it stands.  There are two main issues, apart from formatting etc; the first is that it fails WP:CORP - there's no evidence that the organization has been the subject of non-trivial third-party coverage (indeed, there are no references of any sort, not even the organization's website).  The second, as Labattblueboy points out, is that it fails WP:COI.  As a member of the organization, you're very strongly discouraged from contributing to its article.  Unlike the WP:CORP failure, this won't be immediately fatal, but, if the article's to survive, you need to seriously tone down the promotional aspects of the writing and find some independent sources.  It's OK as a press release, but Wikipedia is not the correct forum for press releases. Tevildo (talk) 22:14, 24 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Oppose: not only is there no evidence of notability, it's also very spammy. – ukexpat (talk) 02:44, 26 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment. When you have the article ready, add move draft to the top of the article, and someone will move it, if they agree that it is ready. Two other things. Articles that you are working on in user space go in subarticles, such as at User:Kathleenkcameron/American Health Lawyers Association. Also, before you get too far, you might want to understand the ramifications of editing using your own name. See WP:REALNAME Not that there is anything wrong with it, but it does have consequences that could be unintended. 199.125.109.102 (talk) 18:02, 28 November 2009 (UTC)