User talk:KatiePierce

Your submission at Articles for creation: A Thousand Little Cuts (October 28)
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ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  06:03, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

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Film notability
Hi! I declined the article because in almost all situations, a film won't be notable until it's officially released. The reason for this ultimately comes down to coverage - media outlets are less likely to cover a film prior to its release unless it's something very, very major (like a Marvel movie). Even then, the film has to have entered production to be considered notable per the notability guidelines for unreleased films. It's a tricky situation. This brochure on creating and editing film articles can help explain notability for films and also give an overview of what the article is supposed to look like and have in it, as well as tips for sourcing.

I'm going to do some general cleanup for the draft, but I wanted to explain the changes I'm making:


 * I'm removing the use of IMDb as a source. This is not really seen as a reliable source on Wikipedia since it's so easy for random users to edit. To give an example of how easy it can be, years ago when Captain America: Winter Soldier was announced (but not yet released) someone actually managed to add their name to the IMDb page by claiming that they were going to be playing She-Hulk/Jennifer Walters. It actually got picked up by a pop culture website, although it looks like none of the bigger websites noticed. The reason it was detected (and later removed) was because the person tried coming on to Wikipedia to create an article for herself, using IMDb as a way of bolstering her claim. Now granted, most of the content on there is unlikely to be false but it's because of stuff like this that we can't use IMDb as a source.


 * I removed the creative section. Wikipedia tends to give just a general overview of a film, which typically means that the article only really focuses on the biggest roles as far as the creative side goes. It's not really fair, as all of the persons who participated in the creation of the film are important, but in my opinion I think it's done more for brevity's sake so that the article gives more of a basic overview. If there's coverage for the staffing and other roles then sometimes these persons can be covered in the production section, but in most cases there isn't.


 * I added an infobox and moved some of the content into it, specifically some of the roles from the creatives section.


 * I reduced the IMDb links in the EL section to just the one for the film, as users can click through to the director's page from there.


 * Hollywood Revealed doesn't look to be the type of site that Wikipedia would see as reliable, mostly because there's little to no information about their editorial oversight. When I went down to the bottom of the page they have "About Us" and "Follow Us" written, but no links to these pages - missing links is not really a good sign of reliability. It doesn't mean that the site isn't used or seen as good by people outside of Wikipedia, it's just that Wikipedia tends to be picky with what's considered to be a reliable source.


 * Notability is not inherited by the film starring notable persons, however it will hopefully lead to more coverage in the future when the film releases. It's never a big guarantee, unfortunately.


 * All content should be written in your own words, as the synopsis was taken directly from IMDb. If you want to use content that you (or specifically, the production company) has written and published prior to Wikipedia, you need to file a ticket through WP:OTRS giving permission to place the content under a Creative Commons license, typically CC-BY-SA or CC-BY. Keep in mind that this will allow people to use the text however they wish, even commercially. I'm not sure how this will impact the synopsis, however.

I've done some general cleanup, so for now it's just a matter of waiting until more coverage becomes available. I'm not sure how firmly this would fall into the thriller category, but if it overlaps enough I would suggest reaching out to some of the horror websites like Dread Central, Bloody Disgusting, HorrorNews.net, Ginger Nuts of Horror, and the like. The horror genre tends to have a pretty wide definition for horror websites, so I think this stands a decent chance of appealing to those - particularly since the cast has a pretty good pedigree when it comes to horror and other genres (ie, scifi) that tend to appeal strongly to horror fans. Dunno if this will go the film festival circuit, theatrical release, and/or direct to video, but they'd also be good outlets for reviews as well, especially since all of those would be seen as reliable sources on Wikipedia. As far as other places to solicit reviews or other coverage, DVD Talk, Film Threat, or some of the others links listed here would be good to reach out to as well. ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  06:38, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Joshua Brandon (screenwriter) (October 29)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by KylieTastic was:

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KylieTastic (talk) 22:00, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:A Thousand Little Cuts
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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 07:02, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Joshua Brandon (screenwriter)


Hello, KatiePierce. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Joshua Brandon".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. ✗ plicit  23:37, 29 April 2021 (UTC)