User talk:Kattiel

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Mary Lindell
Kattiel,

The IP editor's deletions are inappropriate, but the "Controversy" section as you have written it is also troubling. For example:


 * "the highly disputed Count de Milleville" – what does "highly disputed" mean here? What is in dispute, and who is disputing it? The phrase by itself is vague and impossible to substantiate, and reads like character assassination rather than fact.
 * "enriched himself during the war" – a claim such as this needs a strong citation. If it's based on this one single book, it should be qualified by "allegedly" or "according to le Foulon". Again, this phrasing is appropriate to a smear campaign, rather than to an encyclopedia. The same is true about the allegations on the daughter and the son.
 * "are as many elements that do not plead in favor of her resistance against the nazis" – not only is this vague, it makes it seem as though Wikipedia is taking a position on the subject. Wikipedia articles should not draw conclusions. At most, they should summarize conclusions reached by others.

I strongly suggest you tone down this section, and provide appropriate references. A single book is a start, but I don't think it's enough to support what's written here.

NewEnglandYankee (talk) 17:09, 3 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your detailed answer. My text was a translation of the French version written by User:Madelgarius. I shall ask him to look into this. Kattiel (talk) 19:47, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Sources are in the article, (Lady-Lies by Marie-Laure Le Foulon). A controverse exist and it's not only due to the work of Le Foulon. The purpose is to explain it (not to feed the controversial aspects among contributors). regards --Madelgarius (talk) 22:19, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

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Ellen Spijkstra moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Ellen Spijkstra, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Lopifalko (talk) 13:06, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Lopifalko. I had just included the sources before you moved the article to the draft space. Do I have to make the same corrections in the draft now? Kattiel (talk) 13:20, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * You can ignore the draft, it can even be deleted, it is of no consequence if there is an article in article space. -Lopifalko (talk) 13:24, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Can you delete the draft for me please, or explain how I can do that? I shall look into the inline citations asap. Kattiel (talk) 13:59, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Question about Curaçao on village/neighbourhood/city level
I've been doing a clean-up round of Curaçao and it was very interesting, but I am very confused about the organisation below the country level. There are districts and geozones, but there seem to be no mayors, local elections, and hardly anything on the internet. Willemstad has a city hall (stadhuis), but no mayor or website(???) The strangest thing is that searches turn out blanks, so could you please enlighten me? KittenKlub (talk) 20:21, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi KittenKlub, I shall ask Caribiana to enlighten you, she is the most active participant in Wiki Goes Caribbean and very well informed. Kattiel (talk) 07:50, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi KittenKlub, your enquiry is quite understandable. In the colonial period there was only one level of government on the Dutch Caribbean islands seated in Willemstad and headed by the Governor as the representative of the Crown and the "gezaghebber" (lieutenant governor) as his assistant stationed on each island. Under this structure districts were instituted for administrative reasons, mostly cadastral. The concepts of a mayor or city rights were never applied there. Under the constellation of the Netherlands Antilles the government became two-tiered with the institution from 1949 onward of island and national elections and governments. Since its dissolution in 2010 Curacao and Sint Maarten (likewise Aruba) have a single level of government, that is authorized to cover all matters for which the islands were given autonomy by the Charter for the Kingdom of the Netherlands. In each jurisdiction there is only one parlementary election for the Estates (Staten). The buildings in Aruba and Curacao (on Sint Maarten I have no information) presently referred as "city hall" are not the seat of government, but the offices of the census department and where marriage ceremonies take place. On the islands Bonaire, Saba and Statia, which are special municipalities of the Netherlands since 2010, there is one local government comparable to a mayor and aldermen with delegated authority, but still using colonial names such as "gezaghebber" and "bestuurscollege". Matters that were not delegated remain within the realm of the Netherlands and are handled by the individual ministries in The Hague according to the matter at hand. These islanders participate in local island elections (with local political parties), but also in all elections of the Netherlands. I hope this information is helpful. Feel free to contact should you have more questions. Caribiana (talk) 08:56, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I already got the impression that there were no real subdivisions, however those "geozones" outside of Willemstad are just like little municipalities. Tera Corá has two main settlements, and some hamlets over a large area. Also the picture of the city hall of Willemstad was a typical neo-Roman temple city hall. KittenKlub (talk) 09:20, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * A slight correction: with the city hall of Curacao I meant the building called "Kranshi" (now located at Roodeweg 45). I am not sure which picture you are referring to, whether Fort Amsterdam (Curaçao) or maybe Tempel Emanu-el. The Aruban city hall is this Stadhuis van Oranjestad. Caribiana (talk) 10:07, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I saw this one as Stadhuis Willemstad. The stairs and the Dorian columns. It's not the Fort or the Tempel and even has the golden lions.KittenKlub (talk) 10:13, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * According to it is the Court of Justice. 21 Trapi. KittenKlub (talk) 10:24, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, that building is located at Wilhelminaplein 4, Punda and now serves as the headquarters of the Common Court of Justice. Prior to that it served as the parliament building. Sorry, I did not recall that it is also referred to as "stadhuis" because it is also known as "21 Trapi". Thanks for your invitation to join the English Wikipedia, where I have made some edits in the past. However, my main focus is the editing of the Dutch and Papiamento wikipedias and volunteering as moderator for the Papiamento wikipedia. Caribiana (talk) 18:20, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I merely wanted to get rid off the red link, because IPs and red talk page users are often scrutinised. I can understand why you don't want to switch. In fact this talk page is a typical example of the near unsurpassable threshold put on new users. Moving to pages to Draft even though AfC is broken beyond all repair.KittenKlub (talk) 18:42, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, KittenKlub. I have in the meantime created a user page.Caribiana (talk) 19:07, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

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Bronverzoek
Hoi Kattiel, ik zag je bronverzoek m.b.t. een aanvulling voor het artikel over burgemeester Kamp. Zoals je terecht is meegedeeld kan ik op nl-wiki momenteel niet reageren. Voor soortelijke bronverzoeken aan mij kun in de toekomst me ook op en-wiki benaderen. Met de hulp van anderen is je bronverzoek intussen netjes afgehandeld. Bedankt trouwens voor de aanvulling van het artikel dat ik ooit aangemaakt heb. - Robotje (talk) 18:42, 11 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Jammer dat je geblokkeerd bent, ik had het niet gezien. Hopelijk komt daar binnen kort een eind aan. In de tussentijd weet ik je te vinden. Groet, Kattiel (talk) 07:44, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

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