User talk:Kaunitzj

December 2021
Hello, Kaunitzj, welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions. Your editing pattern indicates that you may be using multiple accounts or coordinating editing with people outside Wikipedia. Our policy on multiple accounts usually does not allow this, and users who misuse multiple accounts may be blocked from editing. If you operate multiple accounts directly or with the help of another person, please disclose these connections. Thank you. melecie  t  - 04:33, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * warning has been retracted. apologies, I thought that this account and John Kaunitz were different people, instead of the same person with a changed signature. should've looked at the article titles. happy editing!  melecie   t  - 04:37, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User:Kaunitzj


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AfC notification: User:Kaunitzj/Adaptive Noise Cancelling has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at User:Kaunitzj/Adaptive Noise Cancelling. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 09:58, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Adaptive Noise Cancelling
Hello, Kaunitzj. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Adaptive Noise Cancelling, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again&#32;or request that it be moved to your userspace.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 21:46, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Adaptive Noise Cancelling


Hello, Kaunitzj. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Adaptive Noise Cancelling".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 04:59, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Adaptive noise cancelling (January 10)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by TheChunky was:

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 ❯❯❯  Chunky aka Al Kashmiri   (✍️) 18:03, 10 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello Chunky. Thank you for your suggestion. I am new to Wikipedia and I am not sure what the processes are whereby the concerns you raised can be addressed. The sources I quoted are reliable peer reviewed documents and one of them is so universally referenced in the literature as the the basic description of the topic that virtually no alternatives exist. The article is based on the references I provided so on the face these comments don't make sense to me. I would appreciate some further explanation as to how the concerns you raised should be addressed.
 * The Wikipedia guidelines I read suggests that the article should be in my own words and this is what it is. It is a description of the topic based on the references I provided as sources. John Kaunitz (talk) 01:17, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Adaptive noise cancelling (January 18)
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AngusW🐶🐶F ( bark  •  sniff ) 23:25, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

COI notice
Hello, Kaunitzj. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. AngusW🐶🐶F ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:39, 21 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Please note that you should declare COI for that topic since you appear to be the co-inventor of the term, also COI for Bernard Widrow's article. AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:30, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the information about COI. I did at one stage inserted such a paragraph which I thought would become a comment visible to Wikipedia reviewers but it ended up being part of the article.  As I did not see such a note elsewhere I deleted it.
 * Following your suggested links above I now understand I should place such a COI declaration in my User Page? I will try to work out how to do this. Any help welcome.
 * I have not been involved on the field of adaptive systems since my PhD and I had a number of careers in other fields so I certainly don't have COI as a practitioner.  I produced the article based on on-and-off research from scratch over the past few years from the point of view of an at-arm-length individual interested in the history of science and in particular computing. So I don't believe  I have any COI but I will try to work out how to declare my previous involvement.  John Kaunitz (talk) 09:32, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * It would be placed on your user page . I can put one in for the talk page of the draft. AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:51, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * As you suggested, I placed a COI declaration on the Kaunitzj User Page. I am not sure if this is where it belongs or if there is specific place for it. I am happy for this to appear on the talk page of the draft. Do I just post the text there? Otherwise I am happy for you to do it. Thank you. Is there a potential problem here? John Kaunitz (talk) 01:27, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I put a COI declaration on the kaunitzj userpage, although I am not sure if this is where it belongs. I have not been able to work out how to put this on the Adaptive Noise Cancelling draft talk page as you suggested. So I would like to take up your kind offer for you to do this using the text on my user page. Much appreciated, thank you. John Kaunitz (talk) 03:44, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

A belated welcome!


Here's wishing you a belated welcome to Wikipedia, Kaunitzj! I see that you've already been around a while and wanted to thank you for your contributions. Though you seem to have been successful in finding your way around, you may still benefit from following some of the links below, which help editors get the most out of Wikipedia:


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Draft:Adapitve noise cancelling suggestions
I see that you have done some good work and I believe that there is a place in Wikipedia for that. Given the substantial overlap with adaptive filter I believe you should use your material to improve that article. The subject is one of my interests. I took a short course from Widrow a long time ago and I still have the course notes. Feel free to reach out to me. Constant314 (talk) 23:31, 21 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your comment and suggestion. My interest in adaptive systems and adaptive noise cancelling noise cancelling is historical and after working in other fields for decades it took me a long time to re-research the topic and to produce the adaptive noise cancelling draft which to me was an obvious omission on Wikipedia. I produced the draft with reference to the already existing adaptive filter and the least-means-square-filter Wikipedia articles. In my view these are the two articles which deal with essentially the same topic. I would like to think that my draft will be considered given this background and not be subject to possible future change to existing articles.
 * Nevertheless, even if we started from scratch I would suggest that the area of adaptive signal processing would be best covered by two articles: one on adaptive filter which deals with the concept of an adaptive filter as a means of implementing optimal filters in communication and control through a training process (including the basic  mathematics associated with that) and the other on adaptive noise cancelling as a way to eliminate or reduce interference using a reference signal and an adaptive filter. If people google these terms these are the answers they should find on Wikipedia in the relevant articles respectively.
 * As you rightly point out, the two topics overlap and as there is a lot of ground to be covered under adaptive filter without any detailed treatment of anything related to adaptive noise cancelling or the difference between the two configurations. So I feel the material currently in the adaptive noise cancelling draft is where it is actually best placed.
 * Another consideration is that the adaptive filter and least means square filter articles contain mathematical treatments in terms of stationary  stochastic signals in line with the field in general. However, interference in adaptive noise cancelling  such as machinery noise and ECGs  are more accurately described as time-varying deterministic signals and so I stuck to that in the adaptive noise cancelling draft article. Given that, it seems to me that some overlap in the two articles would not represent a great problem.
 * As I have been out of the field for a long time, I also don't consider myself a suitable candidate to contribute to articles by others with a mathematical content. Nevertheless, time and other commitments permitting, I was planning to contribute to the adaptive filter article after my first attempt at a Wikipedia contribution in adaptive noise cancelling has been dealt with. John Kaunitz (talk) 23:35, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Isn't adaptive filtering the enabling technology for adaptive noise cancelling? Constant314 (talk) 01:42, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I think that this is made clear in the Adaptive Noise Cancelling Draft so I am not sure why you are asking. Given the work on adaptive filters in the context of optimal signal processing, adaptive noise cancelling appeared as an additional new concept that used adaptive filters fundamentally differently, in a different configuration, enabling a class of new applications. The adaptive noise cancelling article aims to explain this concept and term, leaving the detailed coverage of adaptive filters as the enabling technology for the Adaptive Filters article. It covers adaptive filters only where this is relevant to explaining the difference between the adaptive noise cancelling and the classical configurations.
 * Thank you for your offer of Widrow's notes. My copy is from 55 years ago. Yours may be a bit more recent. I also have a copy of the book by Widrow and Stearns for reference. John Kaunitz (talk) 10:15, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Adaptive noise cancelling (February 22)
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Pbritti (talk) 08:05, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Adaptive noise cancelling has been accepted
 Adaptive noise cancelling, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

The article has been assessed as C-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. This is a great rating for a new article, and places it among the top of accepted submissions — kudos to you! You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

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Thanks again, and happy editing! ~Kvng (talk) 14:55, 20 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your comments, help and support. I am still finding my way around/through Wikipedia. I would like to contribute to the Adaptive Filter and Least Means Square articles and do editing but I am not clear about the whole process of editing, creating and combining articles and the criteria relating to who can do/approve what. If you could point me to the relevant information or point me to where I should look that would be great. Thanks. John Kaunitz (talk) 01:42, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Happy to help. Have you looked at above on this page. I'm happy to answer any specific questions that remain. ~Kvng (talk) 14:36, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Dear Kvang
 * I noted that on 18/4 you largely reversed the additions to the Adaptive Noise Cancelling article I made after it was published. As originally published, the article had large chunks removed from the previous draft. After re-reading the published article I thought the reader may be left with some questions, hence the additional paragraphs, which you then removed as part of 'cleanup'.
 * I wonder if you would care to share your reasons for the removal and how strongly you feel that the removed paragraphs should indeed be left out.
 * Regards Kaunitzj John Kaunitz (talk) 10:19, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry the date should read 18/5 John Kaunitz (talk) 09:08, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
 * There were other things that needed to be cleaned up, formatting of captions for instance. We would prefer formulas be rendered using WP:MATH not as an image, but that's not a good reason for me to reject inclusion of a new formula. I think mostly it was difficult to understand the purpose of your changes and I didn't take enough time and was being sloppy. ~Kvng (talk) 13:21, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help in getting the article to its current state. I am pretty happy with the result but feel inclined to reinstate the two paragraphs I previously added to fill in gaps in the explanation. I did try to use the WP:MATH facility to generate formulae but I could not find a way to generate  the averaging bars across the top of formulae.
 * I take it that the template message at the beginning of the article should be removed at some stage. To my best I dealt with the concern on the talk page of the article but I am probably not the one who should remove the comment. Can I leave this with you? Thank you. John Kaunitz (talk) 02:34, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm satisfied with your COI statement. We probably should get input from at least one other editor. ~Kvng (talk) 04:16, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Agree - if anyone takes an interest. Otherwise I am happy to leave this with you. Thank you. John Kaunitz (talk) 06:18, 29 May 2023 (UTC)