User talk:Kawaputra/Archive 1

KLIA
U must be joking of tagging KLIA as an asian airport stub....Marcusaffleck 09:15, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

oops. just found out what a stub is..

What is the reason you change the template?
I am just wondering, what is the reason you change the template for the states of Malaysia (i.e Kelantan? Is it already better with the flag and its coats of arms? are there other problems persisted? --Zack2007 12:59, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
 * i suggested it in Category talk:Malaysian navigational boxes before i changed anything. earth agreed with my suggestion. so far i have changed the state templates for sabah, kelantan, n9, johor, and perlis. u prefer the old one ah? if u dont like it, we'll see what we can do alright..
 * i just realised btw that i had earlier changed the kelantan template on 14 feb. i forgot about this when doing it the 2nd time on 18 feb. so i was not aware of the revert u did until just now..
 * What do u think of this? Template_talk:Kelantan. At least in this template, the flag and the coat of arms have the same size, not too discriminatory. tell me what you think--Zack2007 08:12, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I've tried to put it at the same level, but it doesn't work. I guess we can then resort to your template. I endorse it then.. you can use your template (with the coat of arms) then. :) --Zack2007 13:24, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I found the old template is actually a mess when viewed in Internet Explorer. Try viewing the template for Kuala Lumpur article in IE. So it is timely to convert all these into a collapsible template like what you are doing now. Good job! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zack2007 (talk • contribs) 00:34, 21 February 2007 (UTC).

Please check out Template:Johor and Template talk:Kelantan. This is a new navbox suited for those with many categories in the navbox. Tell me what you think. Isn't it better? --Zack2007 00:47, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Look at Template:Sabah, I have changed it to centre it. I prefer it to be on the left though, it looks a bit funny in the centre. What do u think? --Zack2007 08:48, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * the navbox generic template gives a cleaner, neater look with categories clearly shown. With the previous template, it sorta doesnt give clearly display these categories well. So yeah, I don't know, u can ask others if you want. --Zack2007 09:04, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

The problem with Bandaraya/Bandar Raya
Hi there. This is in relation to the contracted word Bandaraya. If you ask any BM teacher, they will say that Bandar Raya is the correct way to write, together with kereta api, sama ada, jalan raya, lebuh raya, etc. The old contracted word is no longer use, but many of the governmental organisation (like MBSA etc still dont convert to the new spelling. I think as a formality, we should make efforts to revert to the format laid out by DBP, (that is to separate the words). --Zack2007 12:26, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Just something to back up my point. News article. I propose that the word Bandaraya as in Majlis Bandaraya Shah Alam, for example, should be retained as they have been spelled that way in the constitution, but for a normal usage, as in mottos and slogans, it should be changed into the correct proper spelling. What do u think? --Zack2007 12:34, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * No No. all the local council will stay at its original contracted version, Majlis Bandaraya Shah Alam, Majlis Bandaraya Alor Star, etc. BUT, if it is in slogan, it should show the correct usage that is "Bandar raya", such as "Bandar raya bersejarah", "Bandar raya pintar". This is suggested in the article above. Just to clarify, sound good?--Zack2007 14:01, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

DBKL's official name in english is KL City Hall, for example in this government website. I think we should stick with the official name. If you'd like, u can make an article, and probably explain about this variant that is used in Malaysia (perhaps calling it as a unique case. :P ) --Zack2007 08:00, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * By the way, Brisbane City Hall works the same way as DBKL. So we're not that unique then. :P read City and town halls. --Zack2007 08:03, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Regarding edits made to Districts of Malaysia
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Nice work on the Brickfields article
I just had a look at it, and it's surprisingly comprehensive and detailed. Good job. This is a good example to related articles on districts in KL. - Two hundred percent 09:52, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * thanks for the feedback 200% :)

Re: Constituencies
Decided to add a note into the introduction of the article based on your justification provided in the talk page. When I first read the article, it implies referring to actual districts in the country. This addition should avoid any confusion. - Two hundred percent 05:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Definition of Bumiputra.
yeah, somebody really did biased on almost every articles about Malaysia. The point is we dont know where on earth they find that thing, and Government of Malaysia did not start their NPOV ensyclopedia, thats why u cant find the definition and some wikipedia start some history rather than definition. So here it is, Im post-spm student, I got it from Buku panduan kemasukan ke institusi pengajian tinggi awam, here the original in Malay language:


 * 1) Semenanjung
 * 2) *"Jika salah seorang ibu atau bapa calon adalah seorang Melayu yang beragama Islam/Orang Asli seperti mana yang ditakrifkan dalam Perkara 160 (2) Perlembagaan Persekutuan; maka anaknya adalah seorang Bumiputera".
 * 3) Sabah
 * 4) *"Jika bapa calon adalah seorang Melayu yang beragama Islam/Peribumi sabah seperti mana yang ditakrifkan dalam Perkara 161A (6)(a) Perlembagaan Persekutuan; maka anaknya adalah dianggap seorang Bumiputera".
 * 5) Sarawak
 * 6) *"Jika bapa dan ibu calon adalah seorang Peribumi Sarawak seperti mana yang ditakrifkan dalam Perkara 161A (6)(b) Perlembagaan Persekutuan; maka anaknya adalah dianggap seorang Bumiputera".

Should we add these to the article?--Towaru 10:16, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

You may be right, but according to sentences above, like for example, "seperti mana yang ditakrifkan dalam Perkara 161A (6)(a) Perlembagaan Persekutuan", which mean "as stated according to the definition in Article 161A (6) (a) of Federal Constitution", its clearly the definition is in the constitution.

Well, ofcouse, I myself not sure about "bapa calon adalah seorang Melayu yang beragama Islam/Peribumi sabah", I dont know why is it differ from each state, maybe its because each state has its owned unique constitution and in west Malaysia, they, on the other hand had has already centeralized the constitution. Maybe, if possible, we better refer this to the government, or the law-maker.--Towaru 11:58, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

oh great, I'm confuse already, I think I leave this matter to you. So theres no definite meaning to bumiputra, even, nowaday, sino-native are considered as a bumiputra.--Towaru 12:48, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

hmn I dont think so, the only thng its says here, Program Pengajian Lepasan SPM/Setaraf Sesi Akademik 2007/2008 by Bahagian Pengurusan kemasukan Pelajar Jabatan Pengurusan IPT Kementerian Pengajian Tinggi Malaysia, and i dont think theres an english for this.--Towaru 14:13, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Sandakan map
Look nice!! Good job man... :) --Zack2007 14:33, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That is the best Malaysian map made by a Wikipedia I have seen so far. Great job! Maybe we could expand it to the whole Malaysia later! __earth (Talk) 01:40, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

You are in the right direction. The only thing that is rather out of place is the arrow and Sandakan text. I don't recall maps pointing out specific areas using them. See Image:Woodlands locator map.png, Image:EnglandLondon.png, Image:Manhattan Highlight New York City Map Julius Schorzman.png and Image:Taipo-PositionWithinHKSAR.jpg for examples. You may also like to rename the image to mention which district the marked location is referring to. Hope that helps. - Two hundred percent 06:27, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Lina Joy POV
In reference to your comment in my talk page, I replied such:

Perhaps the whole sentence itself is problematic and should warrant a total rewrite. Maybe this could be the way it can be written :

"Lina Joy, who was born Azalina Jailani, claimed to have converted from Islam to Christianity, arguing that it came under her right to freedom of religion under Article 11 of the Constitution of Malaysia."

Agree with you on the adding an 'a' to the court decision sentence.

The reason why I would rather not use the term "unofficially" is because there is generally no such provision outside of Islam (and primarily due to its status as a state religion) and Azalina did have a certificate of baptism issued by a legal authority under the Roman Catholic church. I can understand how it can be controversial but it's better to stick with the facts here. - Bob K 12:23, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Photo of Zion Cathedral in the LCMS Article
Hi again. Thanks for putting up a photo of KL's Lutheran Zion Cathedral on the Lutheran Church in Malaysia and Singapore (LCMS) article. Unfortunately, this cathedral is used by a different Lutheran denomination; the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Malaysia. Even though the LCMS has a bishop, the title is mainly ceremonial rather than episcopal and the bishop's role is more akin to a Presiding bishop and therefore the denomination doesn't have a cathedral. Nonetheless, I'd like to save a reference to the photo, so I'll just comment it out from the article. Thanks again for your help. -- Bob K 20:15, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Re: your comment, you are correct. There's no article on the ELCM yet. I did make a visit to the diocesan office a few weeks ago to try to get some background information but I was told to write in (?!) .. hehe. Managed to get some nice photos of the Cathedral though .. including their bell tower and Liberty Bell lookalike church bell. == Bob K 10:14, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

A request
Hi Kawaputra. I see you edit articles on Sabah. Could I ask you a favour? I have created several articles that relate to Sabah (where my grandparents lived from 1919 to 1951) and Sarawak (where they were interned in Batu Lintang camp during World War II); and have just made a page on Stephen R. Evans, an interesting Sabahan who authored a very useful book that I used in my research for the Batu Lintang page. Could I ask you to check over his page (and any others of mine that are relevant, such as Agnes Newton Keith if you have the time) for any howlers? I'm in the UK and have never visited Sabah, just read about it - I hope I haven't introduced any inadvertant mistakes. Many thanks, Jasper33 11:31, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Good point about where was he an MP/politician - I've amended the text so it's made specific. Thanks for that.  One day I hope to get to Sabah.  My grandparents lived at Kimanis: I wonder whether it's been wrecked by the Petronas oil and gas terminal yet? Jasper33 04:49, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

My grandfather managed three rubber plantations, the main one at Kimanis and the others at Papar and Mawao for Guthrie (Malaysia). Both my grandparents survived the camp but never talked about it to me, although I have my grandmother's recollections that she wrote when she was in her 70s. Both my sisters have been to Kimanis to visit their old house - one day I'll get there, but I'm not sure if the house will still be standing ...! Jasper33 05:41, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Mawao, but I guess it wasn't (and still isn't) a very big place, hence the redlink! Here's a link about it. My mother was born in KK (Jesselton as it was at the time) in the Civil Hospital, but I think virtually everything in Jesselton/KK was destroyed in the war, so no chance of visiting that. She and her parents and her brother spent quite a bit of time on the beach at Tanjung Aru and Kinarut, judging by my old photos: more places on my list of places to visit! I've got some interesting photos of KK in the 30s and 40s, which I'll get round to uploading on to the KK page at some point, though it won't be soon as I'm a bit tied up with work. Jasper33 07:53, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Malaysian CFDS
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Takraw
help me edit takraw. would love to have a Malaysian perspective.
 * Sorry. I dont really know much about takraw. Will help on things that i know. kawaputra torque 18:40, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Rafflesia Forest Reserve
As you are from nearby, a photo of that Rafflesia Center would be a great addition to the article, as well as some more information (except the pure travel-guide information the article had before my rewrite). And if you'd also succeed to catch one blooming R. pricei I promise to write an article about that species :-) Especially since I could see a R. kerrii in Thailand earlier this year I am fascinated by these flowers, but I doubt I will be able to visit that park in the near future. andy 11:35, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


 * No need for hurry, but if you remember my photo request next time you're in your hometown it'd be great. I have checked on commons, it has none labeled R. pricei, but I still have to try to identify those unlabeled. The one I see in Thailand (R. kerrii is found in southern Thailand and northern peninsular Malaysia, also many species are only found on the Philippines) had no notable smell - I have now learned that the smell depends on species, age of the flower and time, some only smell during the night. andy 12:16, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually there are two R. pricei photos on commons already, however especially the more zoom one is not sharp, so some more would be fine. andy 21:04, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

You're Invited!
Apa Kabar,

I have just joined WikiProject Malaysia and have contributed to the article Malaysian Indian by expanding it. Hope you like it. Regards.

Edit summaries
Thank you for working on WikiProject Malaysia. It would be quite helpful to other Wikipedia editors if you would use the edit summary box at the bottom of the edit page when you make edits. For example, on 26 August 2007, you added WP Malaysia to the Talk:Bau, Sarawak page, but didn't include an edit summary. This may seem picky, but it is considered polite, some wikipedians say essential, to include edit summaries when editing Wikipedia articles. This is true whether adding content, correcting a typo, or suggesting a merger. As the Help page says: "An edit summary should strive to answer the question, "Why did you make this edit?". Providing an edit summary, even if the edit is minor, makes Wikipedia work better by quickly explaining to other users what your change was about." See Help:Edit summary. The edit summary appears in a number of places, for example you can see the history of the editing of an article on its history page. That history becomes meaningful when editors are conscientious about providing accurate edit summaries. --Bejnar 19:22, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, i'll keep this in mind. thanks. kawaputra torque 05:31, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

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E-Mail communication
Hi,

I was wondering if you could create an e-mail where I can get in touch regarding our WikiProject and future developments. Regards. Wiki Raja 20:41, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

South Korea hockey
Hi, Kawaputra, thanks for wondering. The association name of South Korea is known as Korea Hockey Association, so the team name should also be Korea. --Aleen f 1 09:12, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Re: No problem :-) --Aleen f 1 09:28, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

An answer (of sorts)
Hi Kawaputra. Hmm, well, I would use 'just now' to describe something in the recent past ('I saw the postman just now, but he didn't have any letters for me') but not the future, and I haven't heard people here in the UK using it in a future tense in the way that you describe. However, I can imagine that it could well be used to indicate events in the near future: that's the wonderful thing about language - its mutability. (eg. 'I'm going just now to the shops', perhaps - whereas I would say 'I'm going to the shops soon'). Sorry I couldn't be much more help. Perhaps you could try the Language Reference Desk - Reference desk/Language? Cheers! Jasper33 16:31, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Kayumanggi
Hi! I saw your post on 23's talk page, I made a reply there. It's more detailed, but to give you an idea, "lahing kayumanggi" literally means "brown race" and was derived from a well-known folk legend. Hence, it's not the same as "Malay race", as we Filipinos would have used instead the term "lahing Malay". And yes, the phrase is well-known; some prominent writers have used this term, and it often crops up in some patriotic advertisements from time to time. Thanks! --- Tito Pao 21:26, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry I was a bit unclear about what I really meant :) "Lahing Kayumanggi" is intended as a literary device, much like how Americans make use of the names/phrases "Uncle Sam" and "the land of the free and the home of the brave" to refer to their country, or like Japan with "Land of the Rising Sun" (and, I guess, most countries also have similar monikers as well when referring to their country and/or people).
 * The phrase often comes up in literary contexts (most notably in poems and essays...one such writer I've read who I can remember using this once is the 1950s-1960s poet Amado Hernandez), but when Filipinos see the phrase "Lahing Kayumanggi" it refers to the Filipinos as a class---or, more precisely, to Filipinos regardless of their regional/ethnic origin, whether they be in the Philippines or abroad.
 * The folk legend that I was referring to is a story that I've been taught in our Filipino (language) subject in grade school more than once, and I've also seen this story in other textbooks as well. The premise of the story is that God (or at least the gods of whoever created the folk tale) created men by cooking them. Those that were "undercooked" ended up with skins too pale---these were assumed to be persons of Caucasian origins. Those that were "overcooked" ended up the other way around with overly dark skins---these were persons of African origins. And those that were "cooked just right" were the Filipinos. (As I've mentioned, I can't figure out where, say, persons of Arab descent and Chinese/Japanese/Korean descent fit in, it could be possible that whoever created this story haven't heard of them =P )
 * The "folk story", admittedly, is politically incorrect by modern standards, but since I was taught in school that it's just a folk legend, I cannot easily blame any specific author for coming up with such a biased story (for all I know, it could also be an invention by an ultra-patriotic textbook author).
 * In passing, however, let it be said that this folk legend can be considered as just one of possible sources of the phrase "Lahing Kayumanggi". I would even assume that this "folk legend" may, in fact, have been invented simply to justify the phrase's existence. It's just that the phrase often crops up in various places at various times that at this point in time it will be really difficult to point out where this phrase really came from, or which author first used this.
 * With regard to Phiippine languages and your own Bahasa...yes, there is a similarity, although Filipino languages, as it stand today, also borrow heavily from other languages, most notably from Spanish and (in the past century) English. It's safe to assume that these borrowings are a product of our country's history. With regard to our languages and the Bahasa languages, geography is a factor, though I'm not aware of how similar both classes of languages are. I'm not an expert in linguistics, but a fellow Filipino Wikipedian, Chris S. is himself a linguistics professor and (IMO) an expert in Philippine languages (his linguistics blog was nominated in an annual blogging awards competition in the Philippines), so I believe he'd be more than happy to give you expert answers about the relationship between Philippine languages and the Bahasa languages :) --- Tito Pao 11:04, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Malaysia collaboration
Hi, I saw your plea while browsing some of the Malaysia pages. I have been editing intermittently, and regularly look in, but there is not much support. Are you up for a bit of work on the project? docboat 04:04, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

re:Malaysia Day
Dear Kawaputra, I can confirm that Malaysia Day is not a public holiday. __earth (Talk) 10:53, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Malaysia project collaboration
What the project desperately needs is a leader to get things moving. Its not me, since I just intended to get the project started. For the Indonesia project User:Merbabu has the informal role of choosing the next collaboration and notifying everyone on their talk pages. Would be great if you could take on this role for the Malaysia project! The Indonesia project has been successful enough over to time to help push Indonesia, and a number of other articles, to FA standard! If you help get things moving, maybe the Malaysia project can be as successful. (Caniago 00:20, 27 September 2007 (UTC))
 * I wouldn't be disheartened by the number of editors the Malaysia project has - the Indonesia project started out very small too. For the Indonesia project there were only about 4 editors at the beginning and even now the number of regular editors to the project hasn't changed very much. Almost all of them aren't even Indonesian. I also think being a new editor isn't a problem. The guy who started the Indonesia project I think was newer to Wikipedia than you currently are. (Caniago 14:46, 27 September 2007 (UTC))

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RE:WikiProject:Malaysia collaboration of the Month is Malaysia
Thanks. Will do. Wiki Raja 00:37, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

On it too :) docboat 04:38, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

WP Malaysia December 2007 collaboration of the month
Okay,thanks I'll help where I can. Ryan_Aldren 04:55, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

CHEMMAN CHAALAI (THE GRAVEL ROAD) - Malaysian film
Hi,

I noticed that you have a userbox stating that you like independent films and was wondering if you have heard of this film made in Malaysia called Chemman Chaalai? It played at various film festivals in 2005 and was wondering how I could get it on DVD. Regards. Wiki Raja 00:50, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Our new banner!
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Anal sex
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Malaysia Air Map
Excellent work, Kawaputra. It is a good effort in drawing the map. Yes, separate it into individual file, but bear in mind, routes change quickly over time, and you should be aware of that. Plus, if the routes do in fact change, you should be able to redraw it. Is that possible? Wish I have the skill and time to draw the routes. Good job!

Another thing, the third map, instead of Domestic air routes in Malaysia, can you please change it into "domestic air routes served by turboprops in Malaysia? Oh, it would be nice to break up the three operators' routes (Firefly, MASwings, and Berjaya Air), so that we can put the map individually in their respective article page. I hope my comments dont bother you so much. :D

Again, good job! --Zack2007 07:22, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for uploading it. whenever you have time, if you can, i hope you can change the colour of the routes for MASwings, firefly, and berjaya air.. they should be in a different route line to AirAsia and Malaysia airlines, so it wont be confused esp when they are put in one file. I suggest, MASwings in green, firefly in orange, Berjaya air maybe black ? .. thank you yah --Zack2007 13:53, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Just to inform you, Firefly has just released 2 new routes, Subang-JB and Subang-KT. So exciting! --Zack2007 (talk) 02:59, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Not so sure when. I guess we just have to wait. :D --Zack2007 (talk) 13:49, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Regarding My Ratings of Articles
Thanks, I understood. Sorry for the inconvenience I've caused. ryan  09:00, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Basemap for Air Routes
I've uploaded one at Image:Se asia malaysia.png. Give it a try and see if that helps.Kmusser (talk) 17:29, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

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Architecture of Penang
Hi. I've nominated Architecture of Penang, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Wikipedia:Did you know. You can see the hook for the article at Template talk:Did you know, where you can improve it if you see fit. Thanks. White2020 (talk) 11:46, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Education
Kawanputra, I think we should include a picture in this section. What do you think? White2020 (talk) 14:28, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Re:Thisisjonathanchan
Yes, the block was rather hasty because he was editing at a rapid pace. In retrospect I would have tried warnings first. I'd like for him to request an unblock first so I know that he realizes what he did was wrong. John Reaves 21:03, 21 December 2007 (UTC)