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Vandalism
You're welcome. Woogee (talk) 19:41, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

My review of your work
Hello Kayau,

At WP:Editor Review, you asked for a review of the work you did until now, mostly because you just received the Rollback privilege. I'm pleased to give you my input.

About your article on Land use conflict, I think it is a very good start. By the nature of Wikipedia, an article is never finished, but yours is already a sufficient basis for any one searching about the subject. Your article is linked to appropriate other article and contains good information. Congratulation.

As for anti-vandalism and rollback, you are doing good already. When reviewing your work, I agreed with all the revert you did. You also gave users the proper warning after each of your recovery, which is an essential part of anti-vandalism action. Most time, users receive an L1 warning, assuming good faith as required. One started straight at L2, but I agree with you that the kind of vandalism he did left no room for assuming any good faith at all : he completly deserved that L2. Another important thing that you are doing is to escalate your warning depending of what the user already received by other vandal fighter.

Still, some of your edits would have room for improvement. The most obivous is this one [].

You cleaned vandalism on the page, but did not warned the user. It's not critical, but warnings being an important part of anti-vandalism, try to warn all users when you are doing cleaning. What is more problematic is the vandalism you left on the page.

The line just on top of the vandalism you cleaned is itself pretty obvious vandalism. When you do your review, do not limit yourself to the very last change done to the article. Once vandalism is hidden under good faith edits and / or anti-vandalism recovery, it is much more difficult to find and fix. For finding such cases, you can compare your edit with the article as it was 3 to 5 unreverted edits ago. Finding 3 unreverted edits may require to compare your edit with one 20 edits older depending of the amount of vandalism done in the past. After this second check, you can go even deeper and search for what looks like 3 - 5 good faith edits. People modifiying article in good faith have more chance to leave a clean article behind them, so that gives you a stronger point of comparison for identifying what is vandalism and what is not.

This second edit [] of yours is another one when more vandalism remained in the article you approved as good.

Finally, here is a third case. []. (see in the Plot section).

I did not fixed any of your edit; you will have to double-check them yourself. Once done, just keep in mind that fixing hidden vandalism is the most difficult part, so ensure that you do not left some behind you.

Congratulation for your contribution to Wikipedia and keep up the good work,

Heracles31 (talk) 16:27, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

List of vegetarians
No problem; I saw a ton of bare refs and I love using Reflinks (although sometimes it messes up the author, puts in their email, and triggers an edit filter :P).  fetch  comms  ☛ 21:37, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
 * And I went ahead and filled in some to List of vegans too!  fetch  comms  ☛ 21:52, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Re: MOTD
YesH ~ lol ~ Where is the discussion for: Motto of the day/March 10, 2010? I can not find it. And, usually, I do all the work for MOTD on every Tuesday morning (if I have the time of course). Cheers. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:45, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * It's Tuesday evening for me. :)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:48, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes... on Tuesday evening for you. And, I got it –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:53, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

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Barnstar awarded
Thanks!  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:55, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Land use conflict
Hello! Your submission of Land use conflict at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Materialscientist (talk) 08:01, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * If those refs are from Oxford University Press, they should show up in Google, which I couldn't confirm. Maybe some other ref parameters are incorrect? Why different ISBNs for apparently same book (or its not same?) Materialscientist (talk) 09:13, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reminding me - I forgot to correct the ISBN for the 2nd ref. And, no, I'm pretty sure it's the Oxford University Press, but it's published in Hong Kong. Maybe that's why it doesn't show.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 09:17, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Please bite the newbies
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Yi Yin DYK problem
Please see. The article has not been expanded x5 as required.radek (talk) 04:15, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

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New account
I created a new account and copied the work to it. I am starting to work on the editing now. I might be leaving for Mexico on business tonight (i am still waiting to hear from my client) and will be working on this little by little during my trip I will return in 5 days. Lorenzo Pursuitknowledge (talk) 17:47, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Massimo Bergami
Hello Kayau. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Massimo Bergami, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: full professor is enough to pass A7, and Scholar shows he's real. Thank you. JohnCD (talk) 18:48, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi
I corrected most of the caps. I wanted to know if the books title is in caps should I cite it in caps? I will be on later today to work on it more night.--Pursuitknowledge (talk) 07:50, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Your response to my query.
Citation of Personal Experience

Let's say you're starting a page about someone whose name appears in a number of Wikipedia articles but who doesn't have his own page yet (name appears in red}. Also, let's say this person is someone you grew up with, is related to you, and about whom you have knowledge from personal experience as a child, and later, as an adult. Does this information need to be cited, and if so, how would one go about doing it (preferably without revealing one's name)? Should one simply use PN for "personal knowledge," as we're not really talking about "personal knowledge management" or similar articles in Wikipedia FAQs? I should also mention that though I know the person in question I intend to keep the article neutral, simply sticking to facts.

14:31, 22 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Taoskier (talk • contribs)

No WAY. Don't even THINK about it. You have a conflict of interest, and we do not publish original research, and just because there are redlinks does NOT mean it is notable. Unless you can find other sources, maintain a neutral point of view and prove that he is notable, youe aricle will be speedily deleted in no time. ` Kayau Voting IS evil

My comment:

First of all, I have no idea what "Kayau Voting is evil" refers to. But to the main point. On your page you ask everyone leaving you a message to be nice and polite. Why don't you follow your own advice? The tone of your response is belligerent: shouting NO WAY, and Don't even THINK about it. Why don't you follow your own guidelines for comments? Your response to my query (and I'm new to Wikipedia; I'm not familiar with all the guidelines) is anything but polite.

Taoskier (talk) 16:01, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

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Removal of PROD from Edelweiss, Moscow
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Your WikiBreak
Enjoy your WikiBreak. Study hard, and I'll look forward to seeing you back when June rolls around! Acps110 (talk • contribs) 16:29, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Portal: Wikipedia essays
Out of curiosity, why did you think I'd be unable to finish the portal without help? ɳorɑfʈ Talk! 13:26, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Because many things require consensus, like some essay being 'featured' or 'DYKed'.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 13:27, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * See also my comment on the portal's talk page.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 13:28, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Curb Surfer
Hi. I have declined your speedy on this, with some reluctance, because the article is really about a word rater than about a club or group. It certainly needs to go, per WP:NFT and WP:NEO, and another editor has PRODded it. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:29, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Old Black Joe
Caught! Mikedelsol (talk) 14:34, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

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on the triviality of edits
I see you switched me from "connected contributor" to "Notable Wikipedian" and back again on Talk:Nat Gertler.

WP:AUTO states "In clear-cut cases, it is permissible to edit pages connected to yourself. So, you can revert vandalism; but of course it has to be simple, obvious vandalism and not a content dispute." If you look at the edit that seems to have triggered your second switch, you'll see it's a reversion of obvious vandalism from a vandalism-only account, the kind of revert that I would normally do on any page I saw it on and would frequently be marked as a "minor edit". I didn't add substance nor delete material that could be considered true substance, so I at least would see that as trivial. I would appreciate your considering it in that light, and restoring the Notable Wikipedian tag. --Nat Gertler (talk) 14:40, 1 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you! -Nat Gertler (talk) 15:26, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Notice
Hello Kayau. You might want to check this out: WP:AN/I#Personal attacks from User:Kayau. Cheers, -- Meäghân  talk   23:34, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Very amusing. Well, in my time zone, it's long past noon now. In fact, it's not 1-4-2010 anymore.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 23:36, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I think you live somewhere in Asia, Japan, or Eastern Europe (because the UTC time isn't at April 2 yet). In fact, Our area still has more than 7 hours until April 1 is over. December21st2012Freak   Talk to me at 23:39, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * If you look at my userpage, you'll know that I'm from Hong Kong.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 23:40, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Categories for discussion
Hello, ... I noticed your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Template:User dislikes semitic one god religions ... have you also seen Categories for discussion/Log/2010 March 30?

Happy Editing! &mdash;  17:00, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Football appearances and goals
Hi, I read your message.How could i do that? Gobbleswoggler (talk) 10:40, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I know nothing about programming. Don't ask me. :)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:42, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Cunard
I've replied at User talk:Cunard. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 18:19, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

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Of course it was necessary - I was doing what I do in many places on Wikipedia, point editors to the notability requirements. What's the problem with that? – ukexpat (talk) 14:30, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * He was only making an assumption. He's not saying that it will ever happen, not that he'll actually invent a new kind of automobile.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 14:33, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
I dream of horses @ 21:02, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for telling
Yes, I will see. --Extra999 (Contact me + contribs) 12:20, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

List of vegans
If you'd like to work on it, I wouldn't mind chipping in and postponing the afd. I realize that you've probably put alot of work on it from the sounds of it. I doubt i'll change my mind, but I want to give you the benefit of the doubt and some time since it sounds like you've put alot into it. Doc Quintana (talk) 13:00, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

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Hello
Are you interested in portals?? --Extra999 (Contact me + contribs) 07:26, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Um, it's one of those cases where Wikipedians give the wrong barnstar. I think you mean the barnstar barnstar. But thanks anyway. :)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 08:51, 17 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Ooh, those two totally different posts Correct. --Extra999 (Contact me + contribs) 08:53, 17 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Now better: And yes, about portals?


 * I know very little about them, really. Sorry if that disappoints you.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 11:43, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Please be careful
You re-instated the vandalism that this IP editor was removing three times. Please be more careful and check before rolling back. Thanks. Peter Symonds ( talk ) 13:36, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

I concur. Just because an IP makes an edit does not mean that the edit is vandalism. Immunize (talk) 14:12, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
On the RfA Immunize  (talk) 14:47, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Hello
I made my guestbook. Please sign there. --Extra999 (Contact me + contribs) 08:59, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

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Sorry to ruin it, but I just had to. :) Hi878 (talk) 02:14, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

MOTD Problem
Please read this when you get a moment. Thanks! –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:45, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Links have been added to the second quote, let me know what you think, if you have time. Thanks. Hi878 (talk) 05:02, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Another has been added, if you could comment, that would be great. Hi878 (talk) 04:52, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

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 * Thanks, I will add this to my awards page. :)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 08:11, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

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I think that you will probably be at least a little bit interested in this. Hi 8 7 8  (Come yell at me!) 22:54, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Re: Request
I am sorry, but there is not any mention of copyright in both the image itself and the file page. --<span style="border: 1px solid #000000; border-right: none; background: #535FE0; padding: 0px 2px; color: white">KX675 =] Talkbox  11:56, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Never mind =] --<span style="border: 1px solid #000000; border-right: none; background: #535FE0; padding: 0px 2px; color: white">KX675 =] Talkbox  12:49, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
Hi878 isn't home.  (Can I take a message?) 16:17, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Sirvivor
Wow, I have no idea how you found that :P Feel free to delete it, just a joke I sort of invented when I accidentally typoed. Dunnybrusher (talk) 07:42, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * An admin has deleted it (I'm not an admin). Next time, save it for AFD (April Fool's Day, not Articles For Deletion). :D  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:52, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

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 * Just in case you didn't see: I've made you an admin on the Flaggedrevs wiki. {&#123; Sonia &#124;ping&#124;enlist}&#125; 01:21, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

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The word you were searching for
"Perhaps it could go from the old colour, and gradually to the red one? (I'm a non-native speaker so I don't know the name for that.)"

The word you are looking for is gradient. It would be a gradient from the old colour to the new one. Cheers! ɳorɑfʈ Talk! 07:33, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll remember that.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 08:34, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Hello!
I am relatively new to Wikipedia (I've never made a brand new page before) and I would like to know what more I can do to get the boxes removed from the top of the page I created, Castlevania: Harmony of Despair. I'm not in a hurry to get them off just to look good, but I am trying to learn the ropes around here and become a good contributor. Thanks! Unknown ☯ Story  (Contributions)   23:59, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

What about a website like G4tv.com or a Newspaper website (CNN.com, for example?) BTW, I am taking your "advertisment" challenge... XP Unknown ☯ Story  (Contributions)   00:14, 19 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I've never heard of G4tv.com, but CNN will certainly do. Most newspapers websites will do except for those that are anything but reliable (like that falungong paper.)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 00:17, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

G4tv.com is a website that G4, a Video Game based TV network, runs. I would assume it would be reliable because it is a TV network and aired the Expo that the game in question was first unveiled in. Unknown ☯ Story  (Contributions)   00:21, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Userboxes
Hi, you have two userboxes about noble gases, the third and 18th down. Is this intentional? Derild 49  21  ☼  17:19, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * nope, thanks for telling me.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 00:07, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem! Derild  49  21  ☼  01:01, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

I came back!
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Come on now, follow the instructions. :) And by the way, is it obvious because you cheated, or did you actually try to find it with links? I'm hoping that people won't cheat, but whatever... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hi878 (talk • contribs)


 * OK, I admit it, I cheated. :D  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 05:30, 26 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Dang it! I forgot to sign! Anyhoo, there are instructions at the top of the secret page.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come yell at me!) 05:35, 26 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok, now that you did that, even though you cheated, you can have the award. I recently decided to get rid of the barnstar; I'm just sticking with an icon, the barnstar is too cheesy. :) Use this: . Use, x being the position. I have one for my guestbook too, which I believe you have signed. I'll stop with that line of talk now. :) Have you added the MotD closure script to your monobook page yet?   Hi 8 7 8   (Come yell at me!) 05:42, 26 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Yep, and I've asked Smaug to trim it a bit.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 05:43, 26 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I know. I replied to you there a while ago. :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come yell at me!) 05:47, 26 June 2010 (UTC)


 * By the way, I made two new MotD templates. They are at the bottom of the list; tell me what you think. I liked that design, so I just changed it to fit with random and a combined one.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come yell at me!) 05:48, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Your monobook.css
Glad to see someone taking my suggestions, and making them better- now I'm going to mod my preview button. However, the last bit (INPUT#wpPreview:hover ) still says wpSave, so your preview button probably doesn't do anything upon hover. Just a headsup. Cheers, {&#123; Sonia &#124;ping&#124;enlist}&#125; 03:29, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

MotD Script
I would suggest using mine now, at User:Hi878/motdtools.js. I have condensed the different voting buttons into one, and tweaked a few other things. But you don't need to, I just thought I'd let you know. :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come yell at me!) 04:13, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

marc swadel entry
Hi Kayau - thank you for your criticism. Please give me a few pointers how I can amend my page so it is a better thing.

regards,

MarcMarquevue (talk) 05:02, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

 Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 05:11, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It needs style check - try to read through the manual of style.
 * It needs to establish its notability. Please remove the dead link from the external links section, or provide a copy from the Wayback Machine. Find some reliable sources, and not just from some random website, to use as references. Remember to use inline citations.
 * It needs a good copyedit.
 * Please add more links to it.
 * To improve it further, add some more categories to it and link related articles to it.
 * If you are the person in the article, note that you have a conflict of interest which is highly discouraged. (I think this may be the case as you signed your query 'Marc'.)

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-- Forty two  Ehh, what's up doc? 15:03, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Hong Kong
I would love to take on your request, but your reward's expiry date is 2 days before the date it was offered... <b style="color:#0000FF;">OhanaUnited</b><b style="color:green;">Talk page</b> 04:03, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've amended offer a bit as well. I'm not that good at maths. :)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 04:51, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * So it's going to expire on today? <b style="color:#0000FF;">OhanaUnited</b><b style="color:green;">Talk page</b> 05:05, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * *RED FACED* forgot the change the year. :)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 05:08, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, it's alright. P.S. I'm also an HKer. <b style="color:#0000FF;">OhanaUnited</b><b style="color:green;">Talk page</b> 05:38, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

MfD - June 30, 2010
Please review this Novice Editor's Active Discussion... again. I am hoping that you could re-consider your vote based upon on changes advised by Matt Deres. OmniMaster (talk) 15:20, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about where I put this post. I think that it felt too close to my subconcious feeling when writing MfD eletion, so I must have subconciously figured that it must be something other than Mf. Thanks for the re-evil (re-Voting on my Active Discussion).

If you have time to look at North vs. South again, I added 5 youtube links on my References. Is that generally acceptable or frowned upon? OmniMaster (talk) 01:33, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

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Barnstar
Hello Kayau! I want to give a try to the Welcomer's Barnstar. That will be a nice one. However, how do they create the barnstars? Regards, --Sainsf&lt;^&gt; (talk) 07:42, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

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I love it! Why do you think so?--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 02:43, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Don Sutherland (Australia)
the page has a legitimate reference and its purpose is to show more info for the Australian football hall of fame wiki page. Please remove deletion proposal Dingyv03 (talk) 07:50, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I must insist that your page be deleted. This is because my main concern about the article is about its POV, not the references.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 07:52, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The page has been deleted as a copyright violation, but please note that articles not being neutral is not a valid reason for deletion, the page should be improved rather than deleted if this is the only problem. Camw (talk) 08:01, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Really? I thought the sole purpose of the page was a personal essay to praise the person. But never mind.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 08:05, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

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Manufacturing in Hong Kong DYK
Hello! Your submission of Manufacturing in Hong Kong at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!

Thanks for the trout, I'm cooking it up this evening! Length and date are OK, but I am having problems with the hook as there does not appear to be a single specific source in the article for the hook's claim. BabelStone (talk) 19:42, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for taking care of Percy Sparks
Much appreciate your vigilance and eagle eye in deleting a vandal's detritus... Best regards, --Stoneacres (talk) 23:34, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

AWB
One short question: Are you still using AWB 4.9.0.3? It was supposed to be disactivated! -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:53, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't use AWB - I really can't figure out how to use it. I got the message telling me to report the bug when I was using WP:KSL.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 14:43, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you, in appreciation of your work
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Talkback
WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook  17:30, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
Just so that you reply faster... :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 03:13, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Again, if you wouldn't mind. Hi 8 7 8  (Come shout at me!) 04:07, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

It seems that you missed the more important question. :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:31, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Reply:Welcome
How about if they have made about 15 edits today and is their first 15 edits?,Gobbleswoggler (talk) 11:29, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I think you should welcome him. Having such a number of edits in such a short period of time means they are still novices, IMO. It should be safe to welcome him.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 11:39, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
Hi 8 7 8  (Come shout at me!) 02:10, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Again. My, I've sent lots of these, haven't I? :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:22, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

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Re:Thanks
- Hydroxonium (talk &#124; contribs) 05:16, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Manufacturing in Hong Kong
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 06:03, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks for this article, a very notable one. Pity there are no images availabloe though... Dr. Blofeld       White cat 10:14, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'm glad you liked it. User:OhanaUnited might be able to provide some images soon. Also, thanks for putting that Asia template there – I didn't even know it exists! Again, thanks!  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:23, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Blog
I've got no problem with it. Thanks for the mention or heads up. Simply south (talk) 21:50, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Same for me... and thanks! But, what's going on? Are you referring to the motto shop thingY? Or is there something that I am not aware of? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:56, 28 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Please look at paragraph two of the motto shop post.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 07:03, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

2. You can write mottoes and quotes that were not approved by MOTD."I must think over it and I want to wait for any further developments.
 * Yes, I read that paragraph a few days ago, but I'm taking a little bit of time to figure out what is going on. Two things that come to my mind are: "1. The templates are not part of MOTD.

Note: You can write numbered lists starting with a number other than one.

Code:

Result:
 * seventh item
 * eighth item


 * cul8r –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:54, 28 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Huh, really? That's great, because I don't have to use HTML anymore! Yay!  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 08:57, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Erm...
Kayau, look at the edit summary for your most recent edit to your userpage. What else could that possibly mean? Hi 8 7 8  (Come shout at me!) 05:12, 28 July 2010 (UTC)


 * DYKed. You are thinking too much. :P  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 05:14, 28 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Yep, that's what I get for thinking... :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 05:17, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Edits vandalism?
Are the three edits by 117.195.227.172 vandalism?Gobbleswoggler (talk) 10:42, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The first one, unless it is false information, should not constitute vandalism. As I have no expertise in this area, I wouldn't call the second edit vandalism. A person with knowledge in this field should be consulted in order ensure the verifiability of the edit. The third one is almost certainly OR and definitely lacks NPOV, and I wouldn't call it exactly encyclopaedic, so I think it's a kind of vandalism, but please warn the user with uw-npov1 rather than uw-vand1, as IMHO his edits could be in good faith, so let's assume they are, for the time being.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:51, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
While I'm here... I read some of the stories on your site and I highly enjoyed them. You are an excellent writer and I hope you don't stop writing! so nia ♫♪ 07:00, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook  11:42, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

School of Diplomacy Article
Hi Kayau,

Thanks for cleaning up the School of Diplomacy article. When I originally wrote it I wasn't familiar with WP:MOS-ZH. Sigh, all that wasted effort. Never mind, it looks much better now :).

My RFA
Hey there! Thank you for participating in my RFA. Just thought I'd let you know about danmono. I am aware of 1 other English-language author that has written extensively about danmono, but I have no access to it. Jonathan Richard Besancon of Ouachita Baptist University wrote "Danmono: a type of Japanese koto music" (google books search). Also, I have no knowledge of Asian languages, so I really have no way to access those sources. If you'd like to help feel free to post on Talk:Danmono or my talk page. Thanks!  Jujutacular  T · C 21:42, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Your Motto
So, what do you think? Interesting quote, I thought. Secret Saturdays  ( talk to me )  04:09, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Talk Page Archive
Thank you for doing that.Best regards to you,Gobbleswoggler (talk) 11:02, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. ;)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 11:02, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for doing that.Best regards to you,--Extra 999 (Contact me +  contribs) 12:15, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * LOL, no problemo, but next time please don't copy someone else's comment. :)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 12:20, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Rfa
Thanks for the vote of confidence. Things are a little hectic at work so I don't have the time to dedicate to an Rfa at the moment. But when I do, I will let you know! Thanks again. – ukexpat (talk) 02:51, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * That's a pity. I hope you can run for adminship soon! :)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:56, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

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Derild 49  21  ☼  12:45, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Again Derild  49  21  ☼  13:55, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Ironwater/Holder of the end
Hi there. This is just a nitpick, so please feel free to delete after reading if you wish. I understand the intent of your comments in the discussion, but I don't think you're using the terms correctly. A straw man argument is when someone creates a caricature of their opponent's position and then argues against it; a red herring is when someone tries to distract their opponent from the real issue at hand. That is, they have specific meaning and are not synonyms for "poor arguments". User:Gustcarl hasn't done either of those things, he's just presenting a very weak defence of the page (IMO, the problem here is more likely sockpuppetry and not any logical fallacy). It's pretty much a forgone conclusion that the page will be deleted anyway, but I wanted to tip you off about this because when you use those terms incorrectly, you just make it easier for someone else to ignore your real points and attack your incorrect labelling - essentially providing them with their own strawman to demolish! Anyway, just a quick thought. Cheers! Matt Deres (talk) 23:32, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Seeking suggestions for new title for WP:AMORAL
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Talkback
Saw your Wikibreak message. This is in case if you do log in here. :)  Bejinhan   talks   13:57, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I do log in, as I've state in the banner, only I edit less. In fact, I intend to edit less, but still check my watchlist every five minutes.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 14:14, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

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Thanks for the welcome pack !
Hi Kayau, thanks for your welcome and the welcome pack !

Ummmm, it may take me some time to read through the all the wonderful educational articles you have burdened me down with kindly given me the long list of links to. It makes me think of my first days at university, staggering home under a foot high pile of textbooks.

(followed by gentle ironic chuckle)    ;)

Darkman101 (talk) 14:12, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Now that I've read the top of this page, and seen the "If I left you a message:" bit, sorry, I don't know how to do that yet.Darkman101 (talk) 15:55, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * LOL no, my sig is NOT on Quinxorin's talk. My reason for editing NSD's talk is not related to WPWPA. And why am I always blamed for talk page stalking? Last time a Wikibooks bureaucrat transwikied the TPS userbox to Wikibooks 'just for me'.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 03:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
 * That's nice, you have debuted TPS on Wikibooks, and I would would never blame you for stalking, you are the most welcome in mine. --Extra 999 (Contact me +  contribs) 09:46, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Only kidding. :)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:23, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Zhang Yi
Courcelles 18:02, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

MFD
It's not me; apparently it's a problem with the bot that sorts them. See here. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 18:08, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook  14:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello Kayau, you've got even more new messages at WVRMad's talk page. PS. Do you know any good lunatic asylums? (see why in a moment) WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   14:53, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

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Hong Kong
Hi! The Manufacturing of Hong Kong article refers to Hong Kong as a city. However, Hong Kong is said to be an administrative region of China. I'm not too sure about that part. Can you please clarify it? Bejinhan  talks   11:49, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Hong Kong is both a city and a special administrative region. ;-) City is a broad term and has many meanings.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 11:57, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * As I can see from here. Which term do you think it's better to use? Bejinhan   talks   12:11, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I think 'city' is best suited for a general audience.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 12:31, 17 August 2010 (UTC) (sorry about being so late; I was trying to draw a coordinate plane for Wikibooks.)
 * Okay... :) Just wanted to counter-check. Bejinhan   talks   12:02, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook  11:36, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

PS: Aren't you getting bored of thousands of talkback templates from me yet?
 * ✅ (see above).  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 11:52, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 * What have you done? WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   11:57, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Have you seen the diff? :)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 12:27, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 * For some reason I can't view diffs, a screen pops up saying you have chosen to open index.php from http://en.wikipedia.org What should Firefox do with this file? Either a) open with (choose program) or b) Save File so I can't see what you've done. WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   12:38, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Then either: 1) switch to another browser or 2) look CAREFULLY. What's special about my user talk that wasn't there when you put the talkback on my page?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 12:56, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah! I see now! I'm *honoured* to be stalked by you. (I've been following your talk page for about a month now, I've even got you contribution page open in another tab on my browser at the moment). WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   13:03, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Cryptobarnstar

 * Thanks! Especially since tomorrow will be my last day in Wikipedia until 2011... :-)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil C U NEXT YEAR 10:39, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * And that is one of the things I admire about you, Kayau- your ability to stay away when needed. I can't seem to do it. sonia  ♫  10:50, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * It's very simple, really, just use the Wikibreak enforcer. It takes no special ability, just a user script. :)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil C U NEXT YEAR 10:53, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Bye Kayau! (I couldn't bear being away from Wikipedia for so long, barbaric)! WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   11:10, 21 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Why are you going? I can't live without you here. -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 16:23, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sure you'll be back with your IP after a few months days. ;) Derild  49  21  ☼  16:36, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Last year I did manage to sneak a few edits as an IP in November. And no, I'm not gonna sneak back with an IP within a few days because, well, the enforcer isn't going to start tomorrow - the school calendar isn't released online yet.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil C U NEXT YEAR 04:17, 22 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Deserve me form one too:


 * My turn:

<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks"> Hello Kayau, WVRMad has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook  12:04, 22 August 2010 (UTC) Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
 * That's very nice of both of you, especially after making lots of bot-like edits in zh.wikibooks. Wish all of you good luck while I'm away (and while I'm not away, but, well, you know what I mean.) ;-)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil C U NEXT YEAR 13:18, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for my smileback! (Maybe I should create a template for smilebacks - you have new smiles on ???'s talkpage!) WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   16:52, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Introducing my new template:


 * What d'ya think? Good or what? WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   17:48, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
 * NOOOOOO! I'll have to wait until christmas for you wise judgement on my template. WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   18:13, 22 August 2010 (UTC)