User talk:Kb03/Archives/Archive 9

Komeil Ghasemi
Hi, regarding your recent edit on this page, can I see the request for edit? I follow the athlete and this sport closely and he is surely retired, one guy with so many different accounts claim he is the same person as this guy and he says "I'm not retired" when I ask him for one evidence, he fails to show something, except for asking for my phone number!! the guy is retired and there are multiple sources in Persian about it. (there was one in the article) I really can't understand why this unknown person is doing this but this is a kind of vandalism. even if you say that was a year ago maybe he changed his mind, I can show you sources (in Persian off course) from 2-3 months ago where he talks about his retirement. Mohsen1248 (talk) 15:42, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , without going into too much depth, the OTRS ticket 100% confirmed it was him and he claims to not be retired. A lot of the sources I saw referred to an Instagram post he made but his Instagram still shows he's at least active in the sport. Also, the UWW website shows him as a member of the athletes' commission. Kb03 (talk) 16:04, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
 * thanks for your quick answer, This is his instagram, which one of his posts show he is active ? I can read the language, show me just one and I will tell you that's wrong. he never says in his instagram that he is active. I just added a new reference, you can use the google translator, that was few months ago, he was asked about his retirement and he says wrestling is a tough sport and etc. except what this guy claims I can't see even one single source backing his claim. and I follow this sport closely. very closely. and athletes' commission is not only for the active athletes. Mindaugas Ezerskis for example is retired long time ago and I think there are 2-3 more retired athletes in that list. I still think this is just vandalism. Mohsen1248 (talk) 16:21, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Per WP:OTRS, specifically the section entitled "dispute resolution", you should note that "the agent may be in possession of confidential information relevant to the action that should not be published in a public forum. " Thus, you should not revert OTRS tickets and focus on dispute resolution. While I appreciate that you have done that by contacting Kb03, I am going to support Kb03 and restore the edit, because I trust that they have done their due diligence as an OTRS agent and verified that the information is factual. If you still disagree, I would suggest raising the issue at OTRS noticeboard to make your case, but as for now I would say that the consensus is on the side of OTRS and removing the claim that he is retired. Canadian   Paul  00:31, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry but I'm not sure if they can even understand his language completely, I was told he is NOT retired because he is a member of some commission, I proved that's not a valid reason. I was told "his Instagram still shows he's at least active in the sport" which is not true, his instagram posts are about his post wrestling activities and the 2012 Olympic medal he is suppose to receive (for some recent doping disqualifications). I checked it over and over and there is not even a single line opposing that he is retired, he retired officially after a match by kissing a mat and saying goodbye. (he did that on camera) and I can show multiple sources (in Persian) to support my claim. I'm not familiar with how OTRS works and now I have to waste hours to understand the process before asking for anything. to me it's more than clear that he is lying, I don't know why but there is something fishy here. even though now I have some guesses, one thing is for sure that he is retired, you can ask any Persian speaking member in wikipedia who follows this sport (or any other sport because he is relatively famous), everybody knows this. Mohsen1248 (talk) 01:14, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * You really don't have to waste any time at all. The fact is that there is something in the OTRS, very likely confidential, that convinced this agent that what you can access is incorrect. If you think that this agent has made an error, then you can post exactly what you have posted here, literally copy and paste your argument, at OTRS noticeboard and others will look at it to see if a mistake has been made. Canadian   Paul  01:47, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * (Placeholder response until I can get home to make a more detailed one, I am aware of this conversation) Kb03 (talk) 01:50, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * actually now I think the agent "probably" didn't make a mistake, the problem is somewhere else, I was contacted several times by this guy asking for my phone number (which I refused) from the first moment I was surprised why this is such a big deal? now I think I know. but first let me ask you something, what if I contact and prove I'm Komeil Ghasemi and tell them I'm 10 times Olympic Champion, do you think you should add that to wikipedia? no because this is a lie, we have the same situation here, this guy is retired, everybody knows it in his own country, you even can check the Persian page for him in wikipedia, nobody tried to remove that "retired part" because it's all over Persian speaking media but you rarely can find even one source in English, except this one. I assume he is getting paid from some English speaking organizations as an athlete, he wants to keep getting that, that's probably why he insists on editing English wikipedia and not other pages. I even found an interview with him (I mean a video) where he speaks about his retirement, I really don't think you can find a better source than that. so now where should I take this? this is probably the same person but trying to trick wikipedia, still OTRS noticeboard or somewhere else? Mohsen1248 (talk) 02:22, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , upon further digging I'm going to self revert on that. The subject of the article was told how to propose changes twice before in 2 separate tickets but ignored instructions and tried to admin (Agent?) shop. Sorry for the trouble and thanks Canadian for responding in my absence. Kb03 (talk) 04:00, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem, thanks for letting me know. I'll support leaving it as it was then (i.e. retired) unless further evidence surfaces. Thank you both for your work. Canadian   Paul  04:17, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Xhoel
Hey, i was trying to make an article for my brother 'Elio Deejay' he's a Dj/Producer but the article got denied. Can you teach me how to make it properly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xhoel.m (talk • contribs) 14:13, 15 October 2020 (UTC)