User talk:Kedadi/Archive 1

Banned from editing Kosovo and Talk:Kosovo
For this comment on Talk:Kosovo, I am hereby banning you from editing the article or the article talk page for 1 month. If you edit either page in violation of your ban, you will be blocked. I’ve seen a continued history of disruptive and argumentative commentary from you on that talk page (e.g. ). If you continue to engage in such behavior after your article ban, you will be blocked and/or banned again for a longer duration. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 13:52, 3 August 2009 (UTC)


 * A ban for a month from Kosovo and the Kosovo talk page, without a single warning? While for User:Cinéma_C only a warning? Hmm, not the best possible choice, right?
 * Tell me something, where can I object to your personal decision, which I consider not to be fair? --kedadi (talk) 14:42, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The multiple notices at the top of the talk page and my note at the bottom of the talk page was enough of a warning. It's your responsibility to make sure your actions are in check. Outside of the remark made against Ijanderson, I don't consider Cinéma_C's actions to be disruptive, in fact, I think he's been helpful in striking a consensus on the article talk page. You can object to my decision at WP:AN/I. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 14:47, 3 August 2009 (UTC)


 * First of all, thank you for the link.
 * Regarding, User:Cinéma_C, whom you consider to be helpful in striking a consensus, is this one of his traits that you are talking about?
 * Thank you.--kedadi (talk) 15:00, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Death threats
Please don't threaten me. I apologize for loosing my cool and allowing to be provoked, I will make sure it doesn't happen again. What I was merely trying to express is that someone who considers Hashim Thaci a hero can't be as neutral as he or she claims. I do not hate Albanians, I assure you. All the best, -- Cin é ma C 18:49, 3 August 2009 (UTC)


 *  "Please don't threaten me." 
 * I don't think I was. A lot of scientist believe that cancer is mostly caused from depression. If you hate something, then you are angry about it. If you let anger store inside of you for long enough, it will be transformed into depression. So buddy, you may have a hell of a problem. That's what I meant.
 *  "What I was merely trying to express is that someone who considers Hashim Thaci a hero can't be as neutral as he or she claims." 
 * Well, you never know. Why are you so sure about it? He is also listing Josip Broz Tito.
 *  "I do not hate Albanians, I assure you. All the best" 
 * Good for you, then you have absolutely nothing to worry about the cancer.--kedadi (talk) 22:54, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Please explain
Maybe you can explain this whole situation better here, than the other editors are: Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive558 I can't make heads or tales of it from the poor argument on ANI. Ikip (talk) 03:21, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
 * This guy seems to have had an issue with User:Termer on articles of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Looks like User:Termer has nominated relations with other countries of these two articles for deletion, so User:Russavia seemed helpless to stop it and took revenge on foreign relations of Kosovo by putting a POV tag on those articles, like:
 * American–Kosovan relations, here is the diff.
 * British–Kosovan relations, here is the diff.
 * French–Kosovan relations, here is the diff.
 * (Listing only three of them, for the whole list you can check Foreign relations of Kosovo, all the articles have been tagged).
 * User:Russavia argued that if Abkhazia and South Ossetia have a POV tag (and nominated for deletion) on the articles of their foreign relations then Kosovo must have it too, without being reasonable why there has to be a POV tag, an obvious revenge.
 * Thank you.--kedadi (talk) 11:12, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

August 2009
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If that proves unsuccessful you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 19:47, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Friends
Kedadi, i totally changed my mind. We may be in some other universe on opposite sides, but it is pointless now. We both are willing to make Wikipedia good, neutral, and overwhelming, so i ask from you to be friends. If you have ANY problem with my edits, or you think that i am not NPOV, talk to me here, ask friendly, and there will be no problem that we can't fix!

At the end, we are all together in this. Hope you understand, all best, Tadija (talk) 17:28, 28 August 2009 (UTC)


 * You totally changed your mind, about what?  kedadi al  16:45, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

It's getting personal
Before the Kosovska Mitrovica talk page gets too personal, I suggest that the personal comments are left for user talk pages. If we're both planning on contributing to Wikipedia, I'd like to see if there's a way to avert conflicting situations since it's not really helping Wikipedia. I'm not going to ramble on about how you're supposed to accept this or that since I believe you're entitled to your opinion (even if that means being thankful to the "USA for their dominant alpha-male role on Kosovo" which is quite revealing), and I can accept that you have some pretty good arguments, just like I'm sure you accept that I have some good arguments too, even if you don't agree with most or all of them.

However, attacking credible users for providing their insight is not really helping. Also, I'd like to assure you that, in case you believe I have a thing against Albanians, I sincerely don't hate Albanians or Albania. In fact, I have greatly expanded an article about Elbasan, created a Template for Albanian towns, and added more information about Albania on Serbian Wikipedia. To say I have no connections with Serbs and Serbia would be absurd, because I have visited Serbia many many times, lots of my friends are there and have even mastered the language fairly well (as it's not that different from my native language of Czech). But I have connections with Albanians too, a couple of friends here in Canada and I'm planning on visiting Albania next year with them - Elbasan and Berat mostly. My political opinions have nothing to do with how I feel towards your people - you have a proud tradition and culture and I greatly respect it.

However, when it comes to your views on Kosovo, we disagree. Kosovo has been under Serbian control for the better part of the 20th century, and it really doesn't matter if Serbs had their medieval state a bunch of years ago, or if it was inhabited by Illyrians who are, allegedly (and I believe falsely), Albanian ancestors, all that is ancient history. The fact of the matter is that Kosovo is disputed and claimed by both Albanians and Serbs as theirs. Where I like to push towards the fact that Kosovo can't be considered independent by Wikipedia, but neither can it be considered a province of Serbia (autonomous region is not the same as an autonomous province, and I have since changed my opinion to disputed territory, since it makes more sense to me), you tend to push towards the purely Albanian POV. While your POV is often supported by Western sources (and heck, why shouldn't it be, Serbia was bombed by the West on the behalf of the Albanians), this is not the Wikipedia of the Western, English-speaking world, this is a global, free encyclopedia in the English language. Wikipedia can not reflect the POV of English-speaking governments, and I hope you and I can agree on that. If you'd be the most happy if all the Kosovan town articles had Albanian titles, Kosovo was described as an independent country, all the maps showed Kosovo divided from Serbia with the same lines as other countries are, etc. you are missing the point of Wikipedia. The point is to take your opinion, take the opinion of Serbs who see it differently, and find a solution that would be acceptable to all sides - like we did in the Kosovo article intro. This means sometimes conceding defeat, when it's obvious that there's not a consensus to make a drastic change towards one side, but also realizing that the Serbian side has conceded many defeats when it comes to Kosovo related articles. It's just how it works, it's not personal. All the best, -- Cin é ma C 03:33, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

September 2009
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. Cirt (talk) 16:06, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Why?
Why? You will cry? O, ok then. It was mistake. That is my last wish to write instead of you. Tadija (talk) 10:48, 9 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Respond to your talk page, you don't have to spam mine. Thank you.  kedadi al  15:21, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello "Kedadi"
Listen, I think you are not familiarised with yhe wiki policies about birth places. For your information, Vasic is a Serbian footballer born in "Serbian" Priština, (if it was after 1999, I won´t have problems writting Pristina, as I already wrote various Kosovar club names in Albanian, but only after 1999). If you start an edit war I´ll report you. FkpCascais (talk) 23:04, 13 September 2009 (UTC) Maybe you want me to write - Priština, SR Serbia, SFR Yugoslavia - That would also be correct in the year the player was born, wouldn´t it? So, you should be quite happy I´m just writting Priština, SFR Yugoslavia. FkpCascais (talk) 23:10, 13 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the information. Can you point me to that particular WP policy, regarding birthplaces?
 * Regarding the article, I personally think that this is the correct format: Pristina, Kosovo (then SFR Yugoslavia) or Pristina, Kosovo (then SR Serbia, SFR Yugoslavia). I may be wrong, but you have to provide me with a WP policy on this.
 * Regarding the threats, be cool and assume good faith. I believe that we're both human beings and we are here to make articles not wikidrama (as User:Nishkid64's motto is).
 * Thank you.  kedadi al  23:27, 13 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Please don´t victimize yourself...did I threat you? I only said that if you start an edit war I´ll report you. I have no time to find you the exact place of the policy, but I remember that a month ago there was the discusion about it in Wiki talk football. The agreement was that we should only put the city+the country, no provincies, republics, autonomities, or today belonging of that place. So by that agreement it is Priština, SFR Yugoslavia ( no Kosovo, Serbia or whatever else). You can see that in almost all players pages from ex-Yugoslavia. I allways write Belgrade, SFR Yugoslavia and not Belgrade, Serbia or anything different... for players born in Yugoslavia, of course. Wy you insist in Kosovo? You can add Category:Kosovar players. Are you affraid people wan´t know where Pristina is?
 * And I can tell you that if a person is born in Pristina after 1999, I´ll put Pristina (not Priština), Kosovo, without a problem, even if I am Serb. I´m quite objective, OK? FkpCascais (talk) 23:54, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * So, by that logic it´s quite simple: What town/city Vasić was born? Priština. And it´s in Serbian because, like it or not, it was, and I think still is, the official language in the Kosovo. What country he has born: SFR Yugoslavia
 * You can see in my User page many players I´ve started and you´ll see that I follow that in every case. Exemple:Jan Podhradski was born in a town in (today) north Serbia that in 1917 was part of Austro-Hungary. As it was my first page, and the town was going to be declared joining Serbia in few months (it joined early 1918) it was Ok to put birthplace, Serbia, but onother fellow wikipedian corrected me to Austro-Hungary, even if the town was Serbian next day after his birth. I agree. Get it? FkpCascais (talk) 00:06, 14 September 2009 (UTC)


 * In general, I tend to not take things personally but especially on wikipedia, so don't worry.
 * I'm not against of what you said, but I just need to know if there is a consensus or a policy on that issue. I've seen a lot of biographical articles, which use this format: "City name, Current Country name (then Historical Country name)" and I've seen articles that use this format: "City name, Historical Country name (present day Current Country name)". Which one is correct?
 * On articles regarding Kosovo, we have a consensus to only use Kosovo, for example: Pristina, Kosovo (with a note on the footer of the article explaining Kosovo's current political status).
 * Thank you.  kedadi al  00:17, 14 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I tend to follow that policy, and it is the simpliest and the less controversial.( For footballers biographies: Town and country, using the country that the town officially belonged on that date, when the person was born). If you like football and follow Kosovar teams, maybe you could help me. I can´t find much info about foreign players that have played in Kosovo league. Can you give me some names? If you´re bussy you can do it whenever you have time. Regards. FkpCascais (talk) 00:47, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Portal:Kosovo
Hi! There is an ongoing edit war on the Portal:Kosovo. A POV-pusher is vandalizing the portal. -- Turkish Flame   ☎  14:43, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Also check Portal:Kosovo/Intro, Portal:Kosovo/News, Portal:Kosovo/Related portals, etc. -- Turkish Flame   ☎  15:00, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Interesting... Very interesting... Reverting 7 minutes after Turkish Flame told you to... Kedadi, at least stick to your own words concerning notifying other users about stuff going on here... -- Cin é ma C 20:08, 14 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Might be interesting, I personally thank User:Turkish Flame for letting me know about that. If you check your own talk page, you are going to see that your crew called for your help all the time. You guys should settle the issue on the talk page first, before spamming the article.  kedadi al  04:33, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Says the user who reverted first before discussing. -- Cin é ma C 18:28, 15 September 2009 (UTC)


 * AFAIK the discussion should take place first (by this I mean for those who started the flame war), especially on controversial topics such as Kosovo's political status.  kedadi al  19:54, 15 September 2009 (UTC)


 * "Criticizing another's garden doesn't keep the weeds out of your own." If you are allegedly against people calling for "help" to push things through on Wikipedia, then stick to your own words. -- Cin é ma C 20:40, 15 September 2009 (UTC)


 * No, I'm not against people calling for "help", but if you were referring to Template_talk:Kosovo-note canvassing, then that was just unacceptable and I really (3x) do believe that you know why. ;)  kedadi al  21:12, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Greetings
Hey, qysh je? --Kreshnik25 (talk) 18:28, 26 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Tungatjeta njeri. Mire se erdhe ne wp, se ka (kemi) shum nevoje per redaktore shqiptare.
 * Shpresoj qe ki mu kon "ksajde" per nje kohe ma te gjate (edhe nje here, ka shum nevoje) se po ka shum redaktore shqiptare te cilet i bejne 2-3 ndryshime edhe zhduken, ndersa ndryshimet qe i bejene jane larg konstruktivitetit, shkojn edhe mirren me sene si: Pristina => Prishtina, Kosovo => Kosova (gjeste qe po e humbim edhe perkhrajen e redaktoreve te huaj); ose ja nisin mi sha redaktoret shkije (edhe perkrahesit e tyne). Mendoj qe me pune te mire qe na mujm me bo ketu i kishum sha ma s'miri ata pisa.
 * Per çdo pyejte qe ki (nese nuk je familjar me wp) t'lutna drejtohmu mu ne kete faqe ose dergom porosi ne email (e gjen ne faqen time).
 * Ta boj nje pyetje, qysh po i percjell artikujt rreth Shqiperise/Kosoves dhe artikujt ne personal watchlist? Nese nuk ki ndonje "tool" at'here tregom edhe t'asistoj me ta letu punen edhe jeten sa i perket percjelljes.
 * p.s: Nese e ki problem me m'kuptu, tregom t'shkruaj ne rregull.
 * Falemnderit.  kedadi al  21:48, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Skam asnje problem, flas gjithe dialektet vella. Tani qe erdha, s'iki.--Kreshnik25 (talk) 13:54, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

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thanks
Thank you. I have moved into a new house and have only just got the internet sorted out. I'm disappointed that nothing has happened in my absence. Regards IJA (talk) 08:28, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Thaçi's faith
Hi Kedadi. I spotted this edit shortly after it was posted. I considered questioning it but I wasn't sure. I don't think the anon meant to vandalise the article. Either way, for future reference, is Agnostic definitely how Thaçi identifies? Is he definitely not Muslim by faith? Or may he be athiest? What is the situation with him? Evlekis (talk) 18:43, 1 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Evlekis, this IP address User talk:59.23.89.151 (weird, from 🇰🇷 South Korea) is marking Thaçi as Muslim in a persistent way, without backing it up with facts.
 * Religion among Albanians is a controversial topic. While most of Albanians (around 70%) get counted as Muslims, I don't think that's true. I personally think that majority of Albanians are irreligious (especially in Albania).
 * On Thaçi's case, I think it's best to remove his religion from the infobox, as I don't think that there is any source that cites his religion (Muslim, Agnostic, Atheist). Thaçi is one of those most irreligious guys out there (while of course he respects others religion and congratulates whenever there is a religious holiday).
 * He was a big supporter of the Secularism point of the Ahtisaari's plan.
 * His core team of advisors are Jewish, something that probably wouldn't have happened if he would be a religious guy (Muslim in this case).
 * His name is definitively an Arab name, but that doesn't make him a Muslim.
 * Thank you.  kedadi al  20:16, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh I totally agree with you (about the Arab name). Let's face it, half a century of communism and suppressing religion will certainly have left its mark on some modern-day individuals. Athiests are to be found across all of Eastern Europe and even those who claim not to be seem to be largely ignorant of what is expected of them as adherents to the specific faith. As you know, religiously inspired names always continued to be used throughout Communism: Croatian and Serbian variations of names coming from Hebrew via Latin or Greek, and Albanian/Bosniak names often baring Arabian backgrounds with Turkish influence. But as you rightly say, people were still athiest. In that case I'll keep watch of that section and if someone should change it again then I will revert it. In the meantime, it would be a good idea to have that part of the infobox removed. Thanks. Evlekis (talk) 20:28, 1 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Removed Religion from the infobox.  kedadi al  20:38, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Good idea
Thanks, Kedad. I think it is a good idea. You have to guide me how to help though. —Anna Comnena (talk) 08:42, 2 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Anna, it's up and running at WP:WikiProject Albania/publicwatchlist. I filled it with some articles to start with and now we have to enrich it with as much articles as possible.


 * Basically, everything is sorted in the alphabetic order. To add a new article to the list, use the template (Public Watchlist Item). Example for Durrës:
 * will become
 * Durrës (talk page)
 * Durrës (talk page)


 * For redirect articles you have to use the template (Public Watchlist Redirect). It goes under the  template. Example for Durrës and Durres:
 * will become
 * Durrës (talk page)
 * Durres (talk page)
 * Durrës (talk page)
 * Durres (talk page)


 * I don't know if I was clear enough, but anyway, take a look at WP:WikiProject Albania/publicwatchlist (or in edit mode) and you will get the idea (regarding the example with Durrës).


 * This is the page to keep track of changes for articles under WP:WikiProject Albania.


 * Oh, and one more thing, how are you tracking changes for articles @ WikiProject Kosovo and on your private watchlist?  kedadi al  12:03, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Advice?
Hello again Kedadi. I gather you are most probably a native speaker of Albanian. I am just interested in one particular thing. Look at the nameforms given for ethnic Albanian US model Emina Cunmulaj. Just a short while ago I insrted these edits after a long absence. That means, they had been there previously but IPs had removed them. Now whether or not it requires Montenegrin (or Serbo-Croat; ie. a Slavic language of some kind) may be subject to debate as she was neither born there nor became a significant person there. She did live there from a young age however. It had been another user who originally placed it so I don't wish to get involved, I restored it because it was removed by an IP with no summary explaining why. Upon removing the Slavic name, he also took out the Albanian name and this to be honest with you is the key issue. Montenegrin? Questionable, but Albanian for a person known to be of Albanian descent? Certainly. However, is the name likely to be Cumnulaj or Çumnulaj? I don't know the morphological structure because I don't speak much Albanian. Unë kuptoj vetëm pak shqip, jo mir më falni! If it be the former /ts/ sound, then the Albanian form is redundant and the Montenegrin form should change. If otherwise, then I'll need to keep a watch to ensure silly editors don't get any funny ideas. Evlekis (talk) 18:50, 2 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Evlekis, sorry for the late reply. Her lastname is "Çumnulaj". She probably has changed her lastname and made it "Cunmulaj", to make it easier for the English speaking world to spell it. Think of it as John Malkovich or Milla Jovovich, the "ć" replaced with the "ch". Thank you.  kedadi al  10:05, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

UN administration
Please stop replacing "1999 - present" with "1999 - 2008". As I'm sure you're well aware of the fact that EULEX has taken over a large part of the UN duties, but the territory is still officially administered by the United Nations, as described in the last, still current and in effect, UN Security Council Resolution 1244. Wikipedia is not a PR firm for pushing ethnic interests, so please stop vandalizing the article. Thanks, -- Cin é ma C 21:40, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Tafa Air
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing.
 * Jasepl (talk) 18:24, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the reciprocal 3RR warning. And a nice touch making your 4th revert using an IP instead of your own ID! Jasepl (talk) 08:46, 23 January 2010 (UTC)


 * It's in my duty to let you know, regarding the 3RR. Actually I have only 2 reverts on the Kosovo vs. Serbia saga @ Tafa Air. If you believe that it was me the 4th edit as you said, you can always make a check. Btw, I posted a new message on Talk:Tafa Air, maybe you would like to engage in further discussion and resolve the dispute. Thank you.  kedadi al  09:31, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Şemseddin Sami
The Turks know him like that so I used the bold text. (it was not against your article, I mean: it was not vandalism!) I support Kosovo national team... You can see it from here: Talk:Kosovo national football team Böri (talk) 11:28, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Kosovan passport
Bazonka (talk) 20:12, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

February 2010
Please take your political rant elsewhere. As things stand - from the perspective of neutral parties - Kosovo remains part of the country of Serbia, until the dispute is resolved. Thanks, Jasepl (talk) 19:45, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Repeat: Please take your political rant elsewhere. As things stand - from the perspective of neutral parties - Kosovo remains part of the country of Serbia, until the dispute is resolved. Jasepl (talk) 17:38, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, please note, that one more revert and you will be reported to ANI. The reasons have been explained to you several times by more than one editor (each of whom is not a political activist, and has no connection to or interest in Kosovo/Serbia/Yuugoslavia). Thanks, Jasepl (talk) 17:42, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi Jasepl, I really do assume good faith in your edits but as I tried to explain to you in the past, there is a consensus to use only Kosovo (with a side note which explains the disputed nature of it). It was agreed by all editors (Albanian ones, Serbian ones and Neutral ones). Simply take a look at any Kosovo-related article and you will see only Kosovo with a side-note. Thank you.  kedadi al  22:50, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, I saw no consensus. All I saw was some discussion on some obscure article, that had nothing to do with the topic at hend. Between you, B320 and Kosovar (who all might be the same person, I don't know), a report is being filed at ANI. As things stand, Kosovo is not a country (not yet anyway); it is a disputed territory. That fact is indisputable. And in the airline destination lists, we classify according to Continents->Regions->Countries->Provinces (for the airline's home country only). As I said many times in the past, I have no desire to get into political posturing (that seems to be your specialisation); I am simply representing facts, within the established guidelines of the Aviation project. Thanks, Jasepl (talk) 03:16, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
 * As things stand, the first line of the Pristina article reads "is the capital and largest city of Kosovo - a disputed territory in Serbia." You seem to have a problem with that too, even though it says exactly what you are saying above. Jasepl (talk) 03:21, 16 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, I do have a problem. Why should it be mentioned twice? You said that politics are not your specialization and all of the sudden you go to the Pristina article and make biased edits without discussing anything. These things have been discussed to death and as a result Kosovo is used at country level, with a side-note which describes it's political status. Do you have a problem with that?  kedadi al  10:45, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

This might be of interest to you
User Monshuai is being indicted for a community ban:. You might be interested in stating your opinion. sulmues (talk) --Sulmues 20:17, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

City in infobox
Hello Kedadi. Regarding this edit, it doesn't bother me and I have no intention of reverting it as I know you have acted in good faith. I know that the caption states "city" only but my purpose for adding the rest of it was not because I wanted to depict Kosovo in a way that most Kosovans don't wish it to be reflected, but precisely the opposite, I wanted to give Kosovo an honest citation. I always do this and regardless of country (whether we are talking former Soviet entities, or African states whose subject was born during a colonial period). The problem is that the infobox was designed only to include basic information and I believe that it is not a violation of any policy if the section is not rigidly observed. I would prefer to amend the infobox to allow for intermediate entities but apart from not knowing how to call such things, I don't really know how to change infoboxes. Evlekis (talk) 23:21, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Mirëdita
Si je? Are we the only Albanians in wikipedia except User:Kushtrim123?--ZjarriRrethues (talk) 09:37, 15 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm around. Sometimes mistaken for Guildenrich (see here) and Sarandioti (see here). --sulmues (talk) 14:14, 15 March 2010 (UTC)


 * We are around 11 and growing (hopefully). Cheers.  kedadi al  15:44, 16 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I will never thank enough Kedadi for his ENORMOUS contribution to the TF. --sulmues (talk) 19:30, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albania
Let's keep this page alive. In your experience, what would be a good time to upgrade to a project? How many active contributors should we have? --sulmues (talk) 14:33, 15 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Honestly, I don't know. We should ask an admin or the maintainers of WP:WikiProject Europe about the upgrade process from TF to WP. Cheers. <small style="background:#000"> kedadi al  15:40, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Gjika
I saw in your contributions page that you were editing that article so I added some sources with help from User:MuZemike. --ZjarriRrethues (talk) 18:28, 15 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Keep an eye at WP:WikiProject Albania for anything related to Albania. Cheers. <small style="background:#000"> kedadi al  15:46, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Lahuta e Malcis
I started a discussion here. Take a look when you have enough free time.-- — ZjarriRrethues — talk 15:37, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Giorgio Basta
Hello, i want to improve the Giorgio Basta article, but since i am not familiar with the Albanian language i can`t find more sources about him and i don`t know how to search it in Albanian. I thought that maybe you have some sources about him that a could translate (google translate) or if you can help to improve the article. Greetings. iadrian (talk) 11:23, 31 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi iadrian, how is it going? Unfortunetly I don't have any sources regarding Giorgio Basta but I'll do my best to find any, so thanks for the note. Cheers. <small style="background:#000"> kedadi al  14:38, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Hello. I saw Giorgio Basta article and i wanted to improve it as much as possible, but unfortinatly i can`t find more than 3-4 reliable sources that i already presented to the article so i thought that you maybe have more information about him. I found some sources, but it was in Albanian, and i can`t understand them. Thank you for your answer. Greetings! Happy Easter! iadrian (talk) 17:40, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Kosovar Albanians or simply Albanians?
Hi Kedadi. I´ve been editing some Kosovar Albanian footballers and I´ve been doing a change from simple Albanian footballers to Kosovar Albanian footballers in all cases the player is "Kosovar Albanian" except for the ones that played internationally for Albania, in that case leaving the simple naming "Albanian". All this I´m talking about is in the lead sentence. I think that this way I am making a difference between the two (Albanians from Albania and from Kosovo). Anyway, do you agree?

Another of my edits go about the naming of the clubs from Kosovo. I´ve been using the Serbian language nomination of the clubs prior to 1999 and an Albanian language namings after 1999. I´ve been doing that mainly because in the media and generally it was more often to see, exemple KF Prishtina, when mentioned before 1999, as "FK Priština", and after 199, as "KF Prishtina". You can see that I am leaving the Serbian "Š" from "Priština" out, as to avoid further polemics. This has nothing to do with nationalistic feelings, or something like that, but is specially usefull to have the clubs written in Serbian for the cases when they played in the Yugoslav league, where Serbo-Croatian was the most used language in the media.

Anyway, I´ve been also adding the Kosovo footy template and other edits in that way, so I really hope that we can cooperate in this.

Please tell me if you disagree with something, or if you have any other touths or ideas about it, because I do want to have the football articles covered as best as possible, and, again, if possible, with less political interference and polemics. FkpCascais (talk) 20:59, 2 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi FkpCascais, how is it going?
 * I support using the term Kosovar Albanian when referring to Albanians of Kosovo (just like Greek Cypriots or Turkish Cypriots). The term Kosovar-only is pretty ambiguous IMHO since in Kosovo live around 6 different ethnicities. So, I personally support the terms like Kosovar Albanian and Kosovar Serb (or Kosovan in British English).
 * I also support names of the clubs when dealing with pre and post 1999 eras.
 * Cheers. <small style="background:#000"> kedadi al  21:58, 2 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Cool. Thanx. FkpCascais (talk) 22:10, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Albania: From TF under Europe to Wikiproject
You might want to see this discussion that I started and give your opinion. Thank you for your contributions to the Albania Wikiproject! --sulmues talk contributions 11:51, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Script
When you finish the script send me the code. -- — ZjarriRrethues — talk 00:10, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I already did and it's running. Where should I send it, any email? <small style="background:#000"> kedadi al  00:18, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I have the email option enabled.-- — ZjarriRrethues — talk 00:32, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ <small style="background:#000"> kedadi al  00:54, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

ju lutem mbeshtetjen tuaj ne artikullin labova e zhapes..FLM --Laboviti (talk) 08:25, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Notification
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Unapproved bot?
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Kosovo note
Hi Kedadi. After being made aware of this edit to the entry on the Constitutional Court of Kosovo, I have re-added the footnote (diff). The standard footnote is intended as a non-obtrusive</b> way of informing our readership of Kosovo's rather complicated situation, thus avoiding long explanations in the body of each article. Since the existence of different views on Kosovo has to be mentioned in an entry on the Constitutional Court of Kosovo (cf. Writing better articles), the footnote is the simplest way of ensuring that the issue is addressed. - Best, Ev (talk) 20:47, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Shanticm
I don't know why it had to come to this for the user. Shanticm left Wikipedia in disgust and replaced the user and user talk page with. It must hurt a little, I guess. mechamind 9  0  21:23, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi Kedadi
Hi. I deleted your name from WikiProject Europe/Albania/Participants, because it's now in WikiProject Albania/Members. The former will eventually redirect to the latter. You don't need to do anything, I'm just informing. -- Sulmues talk   14:27, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * And congrats for being April's contributor of the month. SulmuesLet's talk 13:30, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Weird edit-war support
Can you explain me the meaning of this weird revert [] apart from supporting a revert only account in his edit war? It would be constructive to explain how this picture is relevant in the geographic region the article describes.Alexikoua (talk) 21:11, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

WP:AE
You have been reported here. This last revert, to what appears to be a highly unstable version was one too many for me. You really should have heeded the warning. Athenean (talk) 18:41, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Sanction notice
Further to this arbitration enforcement request and by the power vested in me under ARBMAC, you are hereby placed on a reverting restriction on all Balkans-related articles in the following terms: This restriction applies until the end of June. You may appeal the restriction to me, to WP:ANI, or to the Arbitration Committee. Stifle (talk) 10:54, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
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Albanian and Greek wikipedians cooperation board
You are invited to participate in this board, which I just created. Please feel free to bring there your concerns. Cheers! --SulmuesLet's talk 01:06, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Banned
Under my authority as specified at WP:ARBMAC, you are banned from editing articles related to the Balkans, broadly construed, for a period of six months. This ban was placed due to your violation of an existing restriction, which was placed upon you by Stifle just a few days ago. This edit is the one which violated the restriction. If you have any questions about this ban or wish to appeal, contact me on my Talk page. The Wordsmith Communicate 18:58, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The above ban has been commuted due to a successful appeal. You are now banned from editing articles related to the Balkans, broadly construed, for two weeks. You are also restricted to one revert per 24-hour period for four months. These restrictions are to run concurrently. The Wordsmith Communicate 15:22, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Mentioned you
Mentioned you here. --SulmuesLet's talk 14:27, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Faleminderit
Faleminderit per barnstarin. Sapo e pashe. T'u pergjigja te thread-i qe hape te WP Albania. Une them t'i leme atje ato linqet e kuqe. Do kete ndonje shqiptar te ndershem qe te beje nje artikull per te qene ndonje dite, pastaj c'te keqe ka nese vete shkrimtaret shkruajne artikujt e vet? Te gjithe e bejne. --SulmuesLet's talk 18:34, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

WP:PERM/R
-- HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   18:54, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, sorry Kedadi, I probably assumed too much, but I thought that you would make very good use of the tool. --SulmuesLet's talk 19:02, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Sulmues, thanks for applying for me. That would be great. Cheers. <small style="background:#000"> kedadi al  23:40, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

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It's your lucky day
Permissions are on 2 for 1 at the minute! ;) I've just given you rollback. The biggest difference you'll notice is that it's quicker. Have a play around if you want, there's a tutorial linked in the template: Hello, per your request, I've granted you Rollback rights! Just remember:
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-- HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   01:12, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Congrats and unassessed
First, congratulations on the rollbacker status! I hope you're enjoying the tool. Second, can you please see my answer here? I am willing to do the work, unless the bot will do a better job than me. --SulmuesLet's talk 21:17, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry Sulmues, I missed it. I answered here. Cheers. <small style="background:#000"> kedadi al  16:29, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

'Alphabetical' order rule to place the Albanian flag always on top
It's really weird. Is there a rule or something in wikipedia you move wp:albania on top on every article's talkpage or you just like it to see the Albanian flag on top of every talkpage?Alexikoua (talk) 14:50, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * "It's really weird. Is there a rule or something in wikipedia you move wp:albania on top on every article's talkpage ..."
 * Well, it's a common-sense to arrange items by alphabetic order (Albania happens to start with "A" while Greece happens to start with "G"), otherwise it would be a mess.
 * "... or you just like it to see the Albanian flag on top of every talkpage?"
 * Let me make you the same question: Why do you keep adding WPGR on top and keep ignoring all other WikiProjects? Is WPGR something special that deserves to be placed on top or do you just like to see the Greek flag on top of talkpages?
 * Cheers. <small style="background:#000"> kedadi al  16:46, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * The very definition of WP:LAME: .  Athenean (talk) 18:05, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I would appreciate if you answer instead of repeating the question I did to me: I've never rearranged the tag-sequence if you mean that.Alexikoua (talk) 18:42, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Lameness on both sides, indeed. Rearranging is stupid. Putting a second tag on top of a preexisting first tag is also stupid. Guys: if you need a rule, the obvious rule is: tags go in order of addition, a later tag below an earlier one. This way, with a bit of luck, the tags might, possibly, one day be perceived as indicating which projects have actually taken care of articles, and not just as national flags for staking out symbolic territory. That said, ceterum censeo: as a general matter, project tags in themselves are stupid, worthless, space-wasting junk and have little or no positive function. The first wikiproject that makes the decent, intelligent decision to stop plastering its tags all over the place and just do away with the whole thing altogether gets a barnstar from me. Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:10, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Genocide Law of Albania
Hi Kedadi, hope all is well. You might want to revise this edit and clearly state in bold that you support the move. --SulmuesLet's talk 19:37, 30 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Done. <small style="background:#000"> kedadi al  19:53, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Sometimes the most obvious things can't get to be done in Wikipedia and everyone needs to be precise, so that reason can prevail. --SulmuesLet's talk 22:21, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Nightwish discography
Hi, can you vote here please? Thank you. DreamNight (talk) 13:32, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Hello.
Hi, Kedadi. Can you please send me some e-mail of yours, i want to send you something, and want to do that off wiki... :) Dont worry, nothing bad! :) -- Tadijaspeaks 11:58, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, sure. You can find it on my userpage, under the "social" menu. Cheers. — Kedadi 13:03, 15 July 2010 (UTC)


 * See comments about scope there. – xeno <sup style="color:black;">talk 17:16, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
--Sulmues (Talk) 13:35, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Shkodër Cathedral
Hi Can you expand this? I am going to create nav boxes for Tirana and Shkodër Cathedral and red link some missing notable landmarks. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 12:01, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Talkback at WP Albania
--  S undefined ulmues (talk) 15:06, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Lead Mosque
Excellent job with the Lead Mosque. See also the talk page of the article, you might want to do the Lead Mosque of Berat. Brought it to DYK. Nominated both you and Dr. Blofeld. Dr. Blofeld can you please make a revision, like only you know, :-). --  S undefined ulmues (talk) 13:56, 23 July 2010 (UTC)


 * . Edhe beje firmen prape kuqezi, se s'ka lezet. Translation: And make your signature back to red and black, please. --  S undefined ulmues (talk) 15:06, 23 July 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅ —  Kedadi  talk  15:53, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Looks good but why have we gone blue for the nav box. The red was supposed to represent national colours. Please revert the person who made them all inconsistent by changing to dark blue, dark green etc.  Dr. Blofeld       White cat 16:03, 23 July 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅ tried to match the color scheme with that of local municipalities. Cheers. —  Kedadi  talk  16:14, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Kedadi. Its just they are supposed to be consistent and often the black text was too dark for dark green. Keep up the great work with your articles, I'll upload another photo of Lead Mosque to the commons from sq, actually I won't it is a vio from another site. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 16:17, 23 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I too think templates should be consistent. Cheers. —  Kedadi  talk  16:20, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Isn't Dëshmorët e Kombit Boulevard the same road as Zogu I Boulevard? Dr. Blofeld       White cat 16:41, 23 July 2010 (UTC)


 * User:Sulmues probably will give us a better answer regarding boulevard's name. —  Kedadi  talk  16:44, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

They are different: They are in the same line but separated from the Skanderbeg Square. --  S undefined ulmues (talk) 16:46, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Lead Mosque
The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

VOTE
I already explained somewhere, nothing special. We will collect all of the votes, ask for RfC, see what was main points of disagreement, and pull some conclusions what to do next. But more about that after it is finished... We will see. I didnt get it all yet. :) -- Tadijaspeaks 18:10, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Sinan Pasha ne Prizren
--  S undefined ulmues (talk) 20:33, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Like it.
I really like this version. Doesn't hurt the eyes. Relaxing. Very nice. --  S undefined ulmues (talk) 01:57, 7 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank God that you are online as I was just going to ask for your opinion. I really suck at design/color matching kind of things, but somehow I managed to find a good color scheme. Cheers. —  Kedadi  talk  02:01, 7 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Do you know that I've never gotten 3k views in my DYKs? The best was 2.4 for Koto Hoxhi and it was a co-nom, because mainly written by Victuallers. Congrats! --  S undefined ulmues (talk) 02:35, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Theth/Thethi
Many thanks for the picture (and for a level of technical competence of which I am not capable). It's a beautiful place. If Thethi is the proper Albanian name, perhaps we should put the entire contents of the page under "Thethi" and simply redirect from "Theth" to "Thethi". What do you think? I will float the suggestion on the Talk page. 45ossington (talk) 23:59, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello
Listen to me Ataturk is not albanian why did u edit again?

why albanian steal Turkish hero ataturk??

Now ill show you an Proof of ataturk is Yörük Turkmen

http://www.biyotarih.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/ataturk_soyu_ailesi02.jpg

"Ataturk Yörük Turkmen"they dont say "ataturk is albanian" him was never ALBANIAN!

Mustafa was born as the son of Mr and Mrs Ali Rıza Efendi Turkish and Zübeyde Hanım in Salonika, which was then a part of the Ottoman Empire. It was also home to various peoples in the cosmopolitan Muslims with Jews and Christians lived together peacefully mainly. Mustafa's paternal grandfather, Kızıl Hafız Ahmed was one of the Yörük Türkmen. His mother was the daughter of an old peasant, originally from Konya, Karaman-derived family of the little town Langasa (now Langadas) in Thessaloniki. The parents were married 1871,

Who did said atatürk was jews and slavic and Albanian?, Ataturk said by himself that He is pure Turk.

look what ataturk say

"Efendiler, benim atalarım Anadolu'dan Rumeli'ye gelmiş Yörük Türkmenler'dendir " M.Kemal Atatürk

in English

"Gentlemen, my ancestors came from Anatolia to Rumelia is from the Turkmen Yörük " M. Kemal Ataturk —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sahindakan (talk • contribs) 03:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Listen to me Ataturk is not albanian why did u edit again?

why albanian steal Turkish hero ataturk??

Now ill show you an Proof of ataturk is Yörük Turkmen

http://www.biyotarih.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/ataturk_soyu_ailesi02.jpg

"Ataturk Yörük Turkmen"they dont say "ataturk is albanian" him was never ALBANIAN!

Mustafa was born as the son of Mr and Mrs Ali Rıza Efendi Turkish and Zübeyde Hanım in Salonika, which was then a part of the Ottoman Empire. It was also home to various peoples in the cosmopolitan Muslims with Jews and Christians lived together peacefully mainly. Mustafa's paternal grandfather, Kızıl Hafız Ahmed was one of the Yörük Türkmen. His mother was the daughter of an old peasant, originally from Konya, Karaman-derived family of the little town Langasa (now Langadas) in Thessaloniki. The parents were married 1871,

Who did said atatürk was jews and slavic and Albanian?, Ataturk said by himself that He is pure Turk.

look what ataturk say

"Efendiler, benim atalarım Anadolu'dan Rumeli'ye gelmiş Yörük Türkmenler'dendir " M.Kemal Atatürk

in English

"Gentlemen, my ancestors came from Anatolia to Rumelia is from the Turkmen Yörük " M. Kemal Ataturk —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sahindakan (talk • contribs) 03:58, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Kavalliotis
According to this [], I don't understand why you reverted, actually both books are used as source for the article. The further reading title is for works that: "do not appear elsewhere in the article and were not used to verify article content. ". If you look at the article both books are used, and especially Lioshi is used as an inline multiple times. 'Source' is the appropriate title here. Cheers.Alexikoua (talk) 22:55, 15 August 2010 (UTC)


 * You are right, "Sources" is the right title in this case (I didn't know that those books were used as references in the article; I assumed so because they were not part of the References section but part of External links). Cheers. —  Kedadi  talk  11:24, 16 August 2010 (UTC)