User talk:Keegan/December14-December15

More talk pages need moving
Hey, all of these talk pages need to be deleted and moved back from an archive page as well. Would you mind taking care of it?
 * Talk:Beck
 * Talk:3OH!3
 * Talk:Jake Gyllenhaal
 * Talk:Alicia Keys
 * Talk:Mandy Moore
 * Talk:Tara Strong
 * Talk:Jennifer Lopez
 * Talk:One of the Boys (Katy Perry album)
 * Talk:Kennedy family
 * Talk:Kelly Clarkson
 * Talk:Joseph Gordon-Levitt
 * Talk:Hilary Duff
 * Talk:Jack Black
 * Talk:Travie McCoy
 * Talk:Lenny Kravitz
 * Talk:Russell Brand


 * I'll get to it shortly. Keegan (talk) 06:31, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Keegan (talk) 23:56, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for taking care of the Christina Aguilera page.  G loss  06:02, 14 February 2015 (UTC)


 * I understand moving the page back to its original place, but—generally speaking—why bring archived threads back to talk page? Could archive subpages not be left?? Snuggums (talk / edits) 06:17, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I just moved the history back. Talk:Christina Aguilera/Archive 11 has all the relevant text, so I just blanked the talk page for you. Happy editing to you. Keegan (talk) 06:29, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Happy editing to you, too :) Snuggums (talk / edits) 06:32, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Structured Data on Commons update
Greetings,

After a delay in updates to the Structured data on Commons project, I wanted to catch you up with what has been going on over the past three months. In short: The project is on hold, but that doesn't mean nothing is happening.

The meeting in Berlin in October provided the engineering teams with a lot to start on. Unfortunately the Structured Data on Commons project was put on hold not too long after this meeting. Development of the actual Structured data system for Commons will not begin until more resources can be allocated to it.

The Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia Germany have been working to improve the Wikidata query process on the back-end. This is designed to be a production-grade replacement of WikidataQuery integrated with search. The full project is described at Mediawiki.org.This will benefit the structured data project greatly since developing a high-level search for Commons is a desired goal of this project.

The Wikidata development team is working on the arbitrary access feature. Currently it's only possible to access items that are connected to the current page. So for example on Vincent van Gogh you can access the statements on Q5582, but you can't access these statements on Category:Vincent van Gogh or Creator:Vincent van Gogh. With arbitrary access enabled on Commons we no longer have this limitation. This opens up the possibility to use Wikidata data on Creator, Institution, Authority control and other templates instead of duplicating the data (what we do now). This will greatly enhance the usefulness of Wikidata for Commons.

To use the full potential of arbitrary access the Commons community needs to reimplement several templates in LUA. In LUA it's possible to use the local fields and fallback to Wikidata if it's not locally available. Help with this conversion is greatly appreciated. The different tasks are tracked in phabricator, see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89594.

Volunteers are continuing to add data about artworks to Wikidata. Sometimes an institution website is used and sometimes data is being transfered from Commons to Wikidata. Wikidata now has almost 35.000 items about paintings. This is done as part of the WikiProject sum of all paintings. This helps us to learn how to d:Wikidata:WikiProject Visual arts/Item structuremodel and refine metadata about artworks. Experience that will of course be very useful for Commons too.

Additionally, the metadata cleanup drive continues to produce results. The drive, which is intended to identify files missing information or the like structured data fields and to add such fields when absent, has reduced the number of files missing information by almost 100,000 on Commons. You can help by looking for files with similarly-formatted description pages, and listing them at Bots/Work requests so that a bot can add the information template on them.

At the Amsterdam Hackathon in November 2014, a couple of different models were developed about how artwork can be viewed on the web using structured data from Wikidata. You can browse two examples here and here. These examples can give you an idea of the kind of data that file pages have the potential to display on-wiki in the future.

The Structured Data project is a long-term one, and the volunteers and staff will continue working together to provide the structure and support in the back-end toward front-end development. There are still many things to do to help advance the project, and I hope to have more news for you in the near future. Contact me any time with questions, comments, concerns.

-- User:Keegan (WMF) (talk) 19:46, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Deleted Article on Peter Bickford
Hi Keegan,

New here, and want to be sure I'm doing things right. Posted an article today earlier on Peter Bickford (co-author on numerous comic book price guides Comics Buyer's Guide Checklist and Price Guide, Standard Catalog of Comic Books, as well as ComicBase -- also a writer for Apple Computer on Human Interface topics). Did not have a chance to add in one of his book credits (Human Interface, AP Press, 1997), but article was quickly struck as not notable. This seems strange to me--what am I missing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasoncross17 (talk • contribs)


 * I see that Jbhunley has already discussed concerns about the article. If you would like, I can place the article in your userspace for you to work on. Keegan (talk) 03:53, 23 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, thanks. Since this is one of my first articles, is there a way to get feedback prior to reposting? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasoncross17 (talk • contribs) 09:39, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I have place the article here: User:Jasoncross17/Peter Bickford. A good place to go for help when new to Wikipedia is The Teahouse. Thanks, happy editing to you. Keegan (talk) 22:31, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

WP:3RR Violation
Carrying the issue to discussion is like sending a petition to a Martian court asking the Martians not to invade earth (when all the Martians have already made up their mind that they are going to invade earth, no matter what). No one is going to change their minds about not placing that epistemic trash there. I don't care if I get blocked. Uthman Ibn Sabeel (talk) 05:16, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Allama Busiri
I am separating the author's biography from the content about the poem, by moving the biography to Busiri; what's the problem, there? -- Uthman Ibn Sabeel (talk) 15:48, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
 * the problem that you are trying to solve is a good one, the biography does belong expanded elsewhere. Unfortunately, you a using cut and paste to do so, which breaks attribution in the manner that you are doing it. Have a look over that page and see if you kind find a way to move the content while still maintaining the history of who wrote it. Keegan (talk) 21:43, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

The Truth About Guns Deletion
I was wondering why you deleted that article, it went through AFC and looked almost exactly the same as it was up until when you deleted it and a previous CSD was rejected. Could you maybe explain this, cause I really don't think it should have been deleted. - SantiLak  (talk) 06:29, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I deleted the article for the stated reason: in the form that it was, it was a blatant POV promotion for a blog. There was no balance or subjectivity, just advocation for the concept. Deletion does not mean the subject cannot be recreated, it just means that that form was not acceptable. Keegan (talk) 06:33, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * There may have been issues but it wasn't blatant POV and promotion, it could easily be resolved with a tag and some cleanup. The article's form may have not been totally balanced but again that hardly warrants deletion. I'm pretty sure a move to deletion was jumping the gun. - SantiLak  (talk) 06:36, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * So to speak? :D Would you like me to put it in your userspace? Keegan (talk) 06:39, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure, but again I still think it was very much jumping the gun to delete the article, any issues could have easily been resolved with cooperative editing. - SantiLak  (talk) 06:43, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not a stickler, I undeleted the article. Please make it referenced for notability from a NPOV as soon as possible. Happy editing to you. Keegan (talk) 06:46, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok I'll be sure to clean up POV language and other stuff, I appreciate the help. - SantiLak  (talk) 06:48, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure thing, sorry to be an inconvenience in the first place :) Keegan (talk) 06:53, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Help with new user
Hi Keegan. I see you in the Deletion log, so I turn to you regarding. I could tag the different pages for speedy, but I wonder if there's a more gentle way to cope with the situation and help him understand the limitations of WP:UP. Would you step in and help out? Thanks, -- Sam Sailor Talk! 06:47, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I can mass delete all of the user's contributions and save everyone time. You can leave a nice message pointing to WP:ABOUT? That's probably about the nicest we can do. Keegan (talk) 06:51, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, will do as soon as the user talk is no longer a redirect. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 06:55, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * user talk redirect deleted, I'll work on the rest. Thanks! Keegan (talk) 06:59, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

SUL finalization
Hi, I'm writing up the SUL finalization in this week's N&N in the Signpost but it's outside of my technical expertise. You seem active in the Phab thread, would you mind stopping by and checking/adding to the current draft? Thanks, Res Mar 17:09, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * looks okay to me :) Keegan (WMF) (talk) 04:17, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Is that an official statement as a rep of the Foundation? ;) <b style="color:#333333; font-size:small;">Res</b> Mar 04:21, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * It's the official statement of the person responsible for completing SUL finalization :) Keegan (WMF) (talk) 19:34, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Ed says that it'd be good to include more detail of why the process was delayed in 2014, but I know nothing of it, so where should I be looking? <span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica"><b style="color:#333333; font-size:small;">Res</b> Mar 04:22, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * SUL finalization, as you know, was to happen in May 2013, James Forrester was the project manager. There were some setbacks which delayed to project until August 2013. Unfortunately, that VisualEditor thing happened in July 2013 and James no longer had the time to manage the finalization process. Dan Garry (Deskana) was hired on as a new project manager at the WMF and this was assigned to him as part of his work, but first he had to move to San Francisco and get up to speed on the job. This is December 2013/January 2014. Dan got moved over to mobile but still had this project, things got shuffled around, and there weren't the engineering resources in place until this past summer 2014. I was assigned to help in my capacity as community liaison, but I was assigned the duty of project owner at the end of October 2014. I can't emphasize enough how much engineering resource this has taken to complete.
 * Fun trivia that I found: the first on-wiki mention of SUL isn't actually the page you mention. The first proposal was also written by Eloquence but it was in May 2004, when drafting the proposal for Wikimedia Commons.
 * Let me know if you have any more questions. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 19:34, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Excellent, thank you! <span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica"><b style="color:#333333; font-size:small;">Res</b> Mar 16:49, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

link correction for Wikimedia Commons/SUL proposal. Keegan (talk) 20:57, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

About the global message signed by you
Hi, Keegan. I sent you a reply here. As I told you there (and feel free to delete this message if it's not the right place to leave it), there must be a mistake, otherwise I do not understand why my global username Góngora should be renamed to Gustavo86, a username which I have not used for more than 6-7 years. As an admin, bureaucrat, WMF press room contact and checkuser on other wiki projects, I have always used my current username Góngora. I have even attended different Wikimedia conferences worldwide (including five Wikimanias) with my current username. Therefore, I do not want my old username back and I do not want a new username assigned. I just want to keep mine. Let me know what should I do in order not to lose my username. Thanks for your time and patience. Regards, --Góngora (Talk) 01:37, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * It looks like you are now all set and no accounts will be renamed Keegan (talk) 06:55, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons
Do you have an account there? I would like to reply to your message there. Please let me know what it is. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 02:22, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * On a whim, I tried commons:User:Keegan. Lo and behold. (Hopefully the man in charge of SUL would have a unified account!) Killiondude (talk) 02:29, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Clever, clever man. --MZMcBride (talk) 02:36, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. For some reason, when I googled it, I did not find it.Zigzig20s (talk) 02:45, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * well, I'm SUL'd for all but seven accounts. I've made amends with the other active Keegan before I was involved with this. The German Wikipedia keeps importing my edits :/ Keegan (talk) 06:53, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Did you see my message there?Zigzig20s (talk) 07:24, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I've been trying to clear my email, which is three times as popular as my meta talk page. Without looking (which I will do tomorrow), it's likely you just need to visit Special:MergeAccount. Keegan (talk) 07:31, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Good old renaming project
Hi Keegan,

So, I got a message from you about renaming my account and all the related Wikimedia accounts. Which is awesome. However, I hold now an account mainly active in the Hungarian Wikipedia under my name: Janosfejervari. I used to have a separate account in English Wikipedia under name Jojojoe; and also an account in the Commons with user name Jojojoe.

Is there any chance I can connect these accounts together under my new shiny Janosfejervari account? I'm not quite sure if that was clear enough, please ping me if you need more explanation.

I would really appreciate your help.

Cheers Janosfejervari (talk) 16:14, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Glad you're looking forward to all this finalizing. Very shortly after all accounts are migrated to global, stewards will have a tool available to merge accounts. You can file a request on Meta when it becomes available. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 14:19, 29 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi Keegan, awesome and thanks for the info. I have this feeling that I might have missed this piece of info somewhere. Anyway, thanks a lot for your help.Janosfejervari (talk) 13:11, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Same name (usurped? differently!) on multiple projects
I am "Raven" on en.wikipedia, en.wiktionary, en.wikisource, en.wikiquote, en.wikibooks, en.wikinews, en.wikiversity, species.wikimedia.org — my intent having only been to hold the English-language monopoly on the name by which I have been known offline (in artwork, writing, performances) for 40 years, and online for 30. I was given to understand this would be sufficient, and I need not proceed to register other languages as well, unnecessarily blocking their speakers from what would be likely non-conflicting uses. Now, instead, I am finding *my* Usernames on the various projects usurped — and changed to *different* Usernames by suffix — due apparently to this forbearance. I wish to object, and to keep my Usernames on these projects. If this accommodation is not possible, then (although I had, graciously I thought, not tried to seize all non-en-projects' "Raven" Usernames) I will have to contest the Global Username claim rather than lose my own. If this is not a hard-and-fast system requirement, and users' choices can play a part, would you discuss with the other Username user what his/her preferences are? It may be we can each keep to our own.... --Raven. Raven (talk) 03:56, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * First off, I'm quite sorry for this trouble and that you were unaware of the problem that conflicting usernames present. The first proposal to unify accounts under one name was first proposed over ten years ago, and the engineering work has been occurring off and on for the past eight years to make this a reality. Unfortunately during all of that time, accounts were still allowed to clash, like your Raven account.
 * You and the other Raven cannot both keep your username, all accounts going forward are going to be global in nature and can be used on all 900+ Wikimedia projects. The other Raven, from the German Wikipedia, registered their account in 2003, registered it as a global account in 2008, and has significantly more edits to the wikis than your account does. It is the global account holder on Wikimedia projects, and your account(s) need to be renamed. You do get the liberty of choosing a different name other than the one mentioned in your message, you can even choose a name similar to the one you have now, it just cannot be "Raven." There's a very simple form, takes 30 seconds to fill out, that you can fill out to request a new name at Special:GlobalRenameRequest, and the request should be fulfilled in a timely manner. This account will be global in nature and is yours on Wikimedia wikis until the heat death of the sun. Once complete, you can then file a request at meta-wiki (where you will now be able to log in, something you've never been able to do before because the other Raven owns that account) for a steward to rename your other accounts and you can tie them all up in a nice bundle after that. The request page is m:SRUC.
 * Again, my utmost apologies for the inconvenience. I completely understand how you feel about your identity, and protecting it. This should have been done a decade ago. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 05:36, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I have requested .Raven. &mdash; but there was no option on that page (nor hint of where else to write) to tell the stewards that I had the same name on those other projects, so they'd be included in the name change. Would you please relay this section to the appropriate address? Thx. --.Raven. Raven (talk) 07:28, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I will take care of that for you. Thank you for your patience and understanding. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 07:32, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * your accounts are all now .Raven. Simply log in as .Raven here using your password and visit Special:MergeAccount to tie in all your new new account names. Thank you so much for your understanding :) Keegan (WMF) (talk) 07:55, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Keegan! After a momentary bobble (I kept trying to put that period after the username), I'm tied together. One last request: All my signatures (~'~'~~) are still "Raven", which will confuse matters when the other user comes over! Could some kindly old robot run through my projects and convert them to ".Raven", please? Thanks again! -- .Raven (talk) 06:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

I'm very happy it all worked out :) As for old signatures, I would love for such a bot. Unfortunately, the idea is routinely rejected. It is my hope that post SUL-finalization people will realize this issue is really important and such a tool will be created. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 06:53, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
 * After searching for a while, I found a similar case where a bot had been approved to redirect the old (usurped) name references to the new name in order to avoid confusion with the new (usurping) user. Since this would not only spare my re-editing many pages I could edit to replace my old sigs, but also many now-archived pages I'm either not-supposed-to or not-allowed-to edit, I think it would be the better practice all around. Could we please put this into use, for not only me but also for all the other users in like circumstances, thus sparing a great deal of manual editing that might violate archive policy? Thanks. – &bull;Raven.talk 02:48, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Your second RFA
is now at User:Keegan/Rfa2. I can't imagine there is any point mentioning how childish all this april 1 nonsense is. Thank god I was busy at work and not tempted to look first thing. Spartaz Humbug! 17:49, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * While I disagree that satirical humor is childish, I do understand and appreciate that a majority of the April 1 stuff is nonsense, and I thank you for your decision and patience. Keegan (talk) 19:24, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

SUL finalization go go go!
(cc Emufarmers) Harej (talk) 03:25, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Receiving emails regarding other accounts
Hi, I messaged you on wikimedia regarding receiving emails about an account not registered to myself. The link in question is at https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/User_talk:Once~enwikiquote for which I received emails forwarding me to this talk page. Not sure if this is an issue you are aware of, but the account does not seem to belong to me. Regards, -- bydand • <font style="font-variant: small-caps; font-size: 105%">talk  12:51, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for letting me know, I'll look in to it. Keegan (talk) 22:31, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for deleting the My Talking Tom Page

 * I wouldn't be so bold as to call myself daring, though I'm flattered to think you seem to perceive I have some sort of bravery. I deleted the article because it didn't have any reliable sources or references to verify the subject's notability. These are fundamental to articles, really. A link to the subject's website and Google Play store aren't valid references for inclusion. As for your page, no one owns anything here. Once you submit content anything can happen to it. Thank you for the trophy, though. Keegan (talk) 22:15, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Creating an Artical
Hi Keegan I am new in Wikipedia and want to create an artical in Wikipedia. I provisionally I have created artical in Wikipedia but with different user name.The artical which i created it was deleted so i wanted to know that tell me the problem in artical so correct it and rewrite my artical. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abubakarmaqsood786 (talk • contribs) 15:44, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * (...Uh, you might want to start by learning how to write the word "article". That would be fantastic!) <font face="Verdana"> KDS 4444  Talk  17:45, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

EddieSegoura Ban Appeal
Hello. I am notifying you that the above is currently being considered at Administrators' noticeboard, and your input (positive, negative, or otherwise) is invited there. You have received this notification and invitation as you participated in the previous ban appeal in 2009 and may be familiar with or remember some of the earlier context, you may be aware of other matters which are relevant to the appeal, or you may wish to express whether or not your view has changed since the last discussion. Regards, Ncmvocalist (talk) 18:42, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Big Jake
Thanks for carrying out the request, but I don't think you moved the talk page with the article. Calidum T&#124;C 05:06, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keegan (talk) 05:12, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Untitled
you motherfucker! how dare you are! to delete my role nodel R.Emmanuel Flint page. if you didn't replace it i will screw you!
 * Okay. Keegan (talk) 05:39, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Deletion of Linda Nishio
Do you read about contemporary art? Because I did cite Lucy Lippard. Please undelete or I'll call you out for sexism. thanks--A21sauce (talk) 17:56, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I won't be undeleting anything under the pretense of a false threat :) If you'd like to accuse me of sexism, please have a nice parsing through my deletion log and provide a demonstrable pattern of abuse. Otherwise, assume good faith and in the future, refrain from making such blanket accusations against other editors.
 * Yes, you cited Lucy Lippard. You cited Lucy Lippard to state that the subject is third-generation Japanese-American, not to qualify notability of the artist. Additionally, receiving grants from the NEA also does not make a subject inherently noteworthy. There was no assertion of notability other than "So and so is an artist," which doesn't make them notable. The burden is on you, not me. If you'd like to contest it, deletion review is that way. Be sure to mention the sexism, I'm sure it will convince others. Keegan (talk) 20:45, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Flaunt your white privilege dude, doesn't make it any less disgusting.--A21sauce (talk) 03:37, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Believe Romania
Hello Keegan, I was courious about what was wrong with my page: Believe Romania.Danielrus07 (talk) 22:40, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi there. Unfortunately, the article - while informational - seemed entirely promotional in nature and did not establish a claim to notability in an encyclopedic context. You're welcome to work on the article as a draft if you'd like. Keegan (talk) 01:35, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

world solar challenge deletions
Any chance you could give me the text for those pages of mine that you deleted? They weren't doing anyone harm, and you're just discouraging new info from being added and discouraging new users from contributing. -Jakendx832 (talk) 14:59, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I've put them in your userspace. You can find them here. Keegan (talk) 17:28, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Requesting recovery of page after unjust and excessively speedy deletion
I created the page Twin Cities Paintball & Airsoft about a notable company and airsoft/paintball field (with whom I have no affiliation). This particular paintball field regualarly attracts players from significant distances, due to being one of only two airsoft fields within anywhere near a reasonable distance of the Twin Cities. I attended their spring "Giant Airsoft Game" (as a player; I am not affiliated with or advertising for them), and I met players from as far away as North Dakota (the field is in Wisconsin). Check out the Facebook page for "Giant Airsoft Game" (which is hosted by the field in question), and go to Events, and look at Past Events. After seeing the more than 300 people listed as having attended the event this month, you will have your proof of notability and you can restore my work. If you still refuse, then get a third opiniom and/or tell me who I can appeal to. In my opinion, "speedy deletion" of anything except vulgar content is a bad policy, as it also deletes the talk page, preventing discussion leading to consensus on the page's notability, and instead places all of the power in the hands of administrators who are not supposed to have an upper hand in true good-faith content disputes due to their admin status. But that's just my opinion that the policy is stupid. What is hardly (if at all) disputable is the notability of an organization which, among other things, hosts a recurring event which repeatedly attracts hundreds of people, some of whom travel hundreds of miles for it. So, look at the page I told you about and see the numbers, and if you still disagree, tell me who I can appeal to, as this is a genuine conflict and not vandalism, so being an admin alone doesn't make you automatically correct without a third opinion. TheDipShit (talk) 05:45, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Deletions are performed without prejudice, administrators are never automatically correct. If you wish to appeal you can file a request for deletion review. Another option is to have your draft moved to be worked on in the draft space. Keegan (talk) 06:50, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

TheAirsoftPlayer
I blocked him for abusing multiple accounts. Links that tell the tale:     

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:13, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Gladys Olubunmi Olateru-Olagbegi
Hello Keegan,

Thanks for your attention at Category:Candidates for speedy deletion. However, am aware of your deletion of the above article per A7. Can you explain why you felt the article is eligible for deletion per the aforementioned criterion? Thanks! Wikic¤l¤gyt@lk to M£ 21:12, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi there. The article listed the subject's education and career but made no assertion as to the notability of the person. What is it about any of those positions or titles that holds any significance or meaning? It is important for articles to expound upon that in order to be accepted as encyclopedic. Keegan (talk) 01:45, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Norden1990
Hi Keegan, who is Iaaasi? See here. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:28, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not very familiar with the person other than s/he is convinced, rightly or wrongly, that Norden1990 is still socking. Keegan (talk) 16:26, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh well, and here I assumed that everyone knows more than I do. :-) Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:24, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Protection on Fat acceptance movement
I don't think the indefinite time period of the protection is really appropriate on the page. The recent vandalism seems to be by a single user. Before the vandalism, a three month time period was went without protection, and there was no vandalism. Perhaps you'd consider changing the protection to a temporary one? Grognard Extraordinaire Chess (talk) Ping when replying 12:36, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Unprotected. I meant to protect it for only an hour or two like the other few I did around that time, it was a late night vandal raid attempt. Thanks for noticing, my apologies. Keegan (talk) 17:16, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks. Have a nice day! Grognard Extraordinaire Chess (talk) Ping when replying 23:19, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Hayley Sales
Hi there. Can you help me understand what's going on with this edit: ? The edit summary doesn't seem to line up with the changes that were made. Did we just happen to step on each other? Agtx (talk) 04:14, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * it looks like it. My edit was to simply remove the deprecated persondata template. Keegan (talk) 05:26, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Beth Cobert page deletion for alleged copyright violation
On 07:02, 11 July 2015 Keegan (talk | contribs) deleted page Beth Cobert (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of https://cio.gov/author/beth-cobert/). FYI any US Government material is not copyrightable. Doesn't matter if says copyrighted (not this instance anyway). So to say that Beth Cobert page was deleted because of "Unambiguous copyright infringement of [dot-gov] ..." website material is factually wrong. There is no such thing as unambiguous copyright infringement of any [US].gov pages. Sometimes the government licenses material from others. That is different. Contractors and licensors may provide copyrighted material by license to the US Government for publication. But in this case, the Beth Cobert bio is obviously not licensed from a third party. Anything written by US Government employees on their job is not copyrightable. That is why US Government forms and manuals are free and never say "Copyright US Government 2015". It just ain't allowed. :)
 * Of course you are correct, my mistake. I have restored the article and added one inter-wiki link so it's not an orphan, at least ;) Thanks, sorry about that. Keegan (talk) 22:48, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Look over my request
No one is giving any attention to the username usurpation page. I pulled a list of all the renamers and so far, you are most recently active. Can you check out the requests building up. Thanks. Wikipenguin 8 (talk) 17:16, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi there. Have some patience and your request will be fulfilled. As it is a usurpation request, I cannot perform it since I am not a local bureaucrat. I can only rename users to names not already registered. Happy editing to you. Keegan (talk) 18:00, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh ok, Thank You.Wikipenguin 8 (talk) 18:02, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

New Pig
Hello again, I'm going to make a few minor changes to the article that was deleted in my sandbox and more importantly post 3rd party sources proving notability. I looked at other companies on Wikipedia -- Safety-Kleen, Motion Industries, Mine Safety Appliances - and since they were acceptable, will model them. Thanks.--Carld307 (talk) 16:54, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Hello Keegan, I appreciate your response & insights. It's obvious that I need to supply reliable 3rd party sources. I can supply many so should I redo the article and post the references there? I have links to articles & some that would need scanned. Should I post scanned ones, too? Thanks for your help.--4.30.187.146 (talk) 16:13, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi Keegan, I don't understand why the New Pig article was deleted for promotion. An editor, Djembayz, sent the a note indicating the same, but did not delete. Instead I was encouraged to contest. In that spirit I explained why I thought the article deserved at least consideration for why I disagreed and help revising. Please review my response below and provide insight on how the article can be revised to be incl uded on Wikipedia.(see below)

Hello Carld307, I wanted to let you know that I just tagged User:Carld307/sandbox for deletion, because it seems to be promotional, rather than an encyclopedia article.If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Djembayz (talk) 03:05, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

My defense Hi Djembayz, Can you please tell me how/why you consider the article promotional? I'd be happy to rewrite but would like to know beforehand what seems promotional. Paragraph 1 is boilerplate simply telling who New Pig is and what it's become. It's true and factual. Paragraphs 2, 3, 4 tells how & why the product was invented and how the company got its name. This answers the number one question on everyone's mind, "Where did the pig name come from?" So doesn't it makes sense to include that information? Paragraphs 5 & 6 describe the company's growth over 30 years. Again only facts, not promotion. By the way, the article is patterned after another Pennsylvania company on Wikipedia, Mine Safety Appliances, which tells about its history, products and growth. Isn't this similar to what we tried to do? So please let me know what should be done to make the article less promotional and acceptable for Wikipedia. Thanks for your help and consideration in this matter. Carld307 (talk) 13:53, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi there, sorry for the delay in response. The article did not contain an assertation of notability through verified, reliable third-party sources. Being the first to do something a certain way, or inventing something or a new process, is not in of itself inherently notable for an encyclopedia, which is what Wikipedia is. Others have to review and write about your thing and the impact it has had. Documenting how something got invented or how it got its name does not matter if the product is not shown to be notable. It's also not advisable to write about things with which you might have a conflict of interest. Wikipedia is not a webhost for all companies, people and/or things. If you would like to try creating the article with help from reviewers, you should do so through Articles for Creation. Hope that helps, happy editing to you. Keegan (talk) 20:57, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigations/Crystallizedcarbon
Keegan, you CU-blocked on August 21. The SPI above lists that account as a suspected sock. Can you shed any light on this? Feel free to e-mail me if you prefer. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:04, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
 * forwarding you an email. Thanks! Keegan (talk) 00:45, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Deletion of Breckenridge Music Festival
Hi, Keegan,

You are the admin who deleted the article Breckenridge Music Festival under a copyright violation. I am an OTRS volunteer and we have a statement from a rep of the festival releasing the text under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported and GNU Free Documentation License (ticket number 2015070810023554). Can you undelete? Thanks! Ping me if you have any questions about this. <font face="Verdana"> KDS 4444 Talk  11:32, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your OTRS work, it's much appreciated. I'll be happy to undelete the article, but first the Festival needs to change the copyright status on the pages that they want to release from (for example), or else it's just going to get tagged and deleted again. Keegan (talk) 17:51, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * This had not occurred to me (I am still new at OTRS work, but am slowly getting the hang of it). I have now notified the Breckenridge folk that they will need to change the license on their website if they expect the article to not become labeled as a copyright violation again, and an hoping to hear back from them soon.  Will let you know when I do.  Thanks again!  <font face="Verdana"> KDS 4444  Talk  17:42, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Comedy Dynamics Page Deletion
Where was the copyright infringement on this page that caused the deletion. The user that cited this was mistaken. There was no copyright infringement and the page should be reinstated. Thanks. ComedyFan2015 (talk) 17:20, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Several places. For one example, the last paragraph was the first paragraph of this press release. That alone is enough to delete it, we do not host any content that is held by copyright elsewhere. As it says right above the edit box, Content that violates any copyrights will be deleted. Unrelated to this particular reason, I see that the article has been deleted through community process and the draft(s) have been declined multiple times. At this point I suggest you consider that the topic is not ready for encyclopedic consideration at this time and move on. Wikipedia will likely continue to frustrate your efforts. Keegan (talk) 17:33, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

DYK for 1989 (Ryan Adams album)
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Global rename
Hey, could you take a look at this thread on meta please? Thanks, <strong style="font-variant:small-caps">WJBscribe (talk) 16:20, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

deleted page Draft:A century of fighting bushfires in the Australian Capital Territory: 1915 - 2015
Keegan, I sent the below to Daniel, but no response, could you please assist? Grumpy fire (talk) 00:17, 26 November 2015 (UTC)Grumpy fire

see the below trail the website http://www.firebreak.com.au referred to as a copyright infringement is in fact a website I have maintained and also have been the webmaster since 1994, you can send me an email as per the contact o0n that page to confirm. Basically as per my request to Tokyogirl79 I would like the page to be undeleted I am also happy as per her suggestion about putting a fair use comment, at present I am updating the FIREBREAK website to be mobuile compatible and hope to do another update before Xmas Grumpy fire (talk) 09:31, 22 November 2015 (UTC)Grumpy fire

deleted page Draft:A century of fighting bushfires in the Australian Capital Territory: 1915 - 2015

06:12, 20 November 2015 Tokyogirl79 (talk | contribs) deleted page Draft:A century of fighting bushfires in the Australian Capital Territory: 1915 - 2015 (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of http://www.firebreak.com.au/act-limestone_plains.html)

Hello, I am querying your deletion, you state (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of http://www.firebreak.com.au/act-limestone_plains.html), I am confused the webpage you refer to is actually a page I have created and have maintained since 1994, so can I ask that you undelete the above Draft, and allow me to make sure the information on www.firebreak.com.au meets the Wikipedia copyright guidelines

thankyou Grumpy fire (talk) 01:28, 21 November 2015 (UTC) Grumpyfire

Grumpy fire, I don't mind undeleting it, but you'll need to do one or both of the following:

File a ticket through WP:OTRS giving Wikipedia permission to use the material. Place a comment on the website that gives up the content as fair use.

I'd recommend that you do the first (OTRS) before doing the second, since that would ensure that Wikipedia would be able to use the content. The problem with just stating it on here is that we can't really verify that you are you, whereas we could do this via you e-mailing OTRS. Placing a fair use disclaimer on the bottom of your page would be helpful, but it'd pretty much require that you insert a Creative Commons license that satisfied Wikipedia, which would likely be this CC license. If you want to insert this, that should do the job as well but I'd recommend also doing the OTRS ticket just as a safety precaution and a general CYA type of deal. It'd also be good since they'd be able to walk you through the process of doing this and also help determine what you can do to preserve your rights over the work. I'm not terribly familiar with the process, so all I can really do is point you in their general direction. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 05:33, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Tokyogirl79 hey thanks for this will do both as you suggest, with regard to the http://www.firebreak.com.au do I have to place a fair use disclaimer on all the pages or just the main page? Grumpy fire (talk) 07:02, 21 November 2015 (UTC)Grumpy fire

It's best to make it visible on all pages just in case, since usually people will just take a quick look at the page to see if there's a copyright disclaimer. You could probably get around this a little by creating a page for the copyright information and then putting it in the header bar in its own little tab. That way it'd be visible to anyone coming into the page (you could label it something like "fair use rationale" or "copyright information"). Since it'd be in the header bar (which appears to be on all of the pages), you wouldn't have to add it manually to every single page, which can be very time consuming. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 07:24, 21 November 2015 (UTC)


 * you do not have to contact OTRS giving a permission statement if this is the text for the website. What you have to do is modify the copyright license on the page to make it CC-BY-SA 3.0 compatible, the best way of doing so is to simply mark the page as CC-BY-SA 3.0 as well. The text of the licence is here and you can learn more about our copyright information here. Once this is done, head over to deletion review and request undeletion. Keegan (talk) 23:52, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Puzzle with Citoid
Per the discussion here, we're trying to figure out why, in Citoid-generated citations like this:



Citoid (or Zotero) is determining the publisher name to be "https://plus.google.com/107858022853661098790"

That URL links to a Substream Magazine page within Google+, so one guess is the editor (in this case, that would be you, in this edit) is generating the citation (in some way) from inside Google+; another is that this is browser-specific behavior (Chrome?). I realize it's been a few days since this edit, but perhaps you could help us determine the context in which this problem is occurring?

Thanks. -- <font style="font-family:Brush Script MT; font-size:15px;">John Broughton (♫♫) 04:43, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Something about airplanes
B-727, N840TW,  The Boeing Scenario,  NTSB-AAR-81-8, Wikipedia's bias toward The Boeing Scenario

Question for  "Keegan" "... name is Keegan Peterzell . . . a Bachelor of Arts in History . . ."

Re' your edit of a Wiki about TWA841/4Apr79 -- deleting a recent video-interview with Scott Kennedy (one of the mishap pilots).

Why delete a link to that comment by one of the mishap-pilots ?? Why would you even presume to know anything about our aerospace industry, or about the USA's "independent" Safety Board?IGhhGI (talk) 15:32, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi there. Please see our policy on external links, specifically that external links do not substitute for content. If you'd like the information from the pilot's comments in the text, it needs to be turned into prose and incorporated with the article with the EL as the reference. You can't just plop an external link into an article devoid of context. Keegan (talk) 18:01, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and happy new year
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