User talk:Keekash

ANI
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.--Griboski (talk) 22:32, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

January 2021
Please stop adding unreferenced or poorly referenced biographical content, especially if controversial, to articles or any other Wikipedia page, as you did at Matija Babić. Content of this nature could be regarded as defamatory and is in violation of Wikipedia policy. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. —C.Fred (talk) 22:54, 16 January 2021 (UTC)


 * What are you talking about? I'm adding more and more convictions, lawsuits, quotes and references. Give me some constructive tips, don't just delete all my work.
 * Let me put it bluntly: if you edit the article again and especially if you add more WP:BLP violating material before a consensus is reached on the talk page, you will be blocked. CUPIDICAE💕  23:00, 16 January 2021 (UTC)


 * And please read WP:NPA. Meters (talk) 23:00, 16 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Some constructive tips include learning the environment you're working in and norms like indenting replies and signing messages. You should also work on the talk page to get consensus for your changes, which have been reverted by multiple editors. Wikipedia operates on the basis of consensus. —C.Fred (talk) 23:01, 16 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Let me put it this way. You are obviously his guys and I will do this every day from a different IP 10 times if needed, I'll create a bot to do it and there's nothing you can do about it.(talk)
 * Yeah, that will really work, sure. No one has ever tried that and failed miserably before on Wikipedia.. Do yourself a favor, give up and just be willing to follow Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Waggie (talk) 23:05, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, I'm totally in on it with my 160,000 edits to Wikipedia and 0 edits to their article until today. You sure got me, . CUPIDICAE💕  23:02, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Pages have been protected over less. Now, are you here to edit civilly and engage in discussion, or are you here to cause trouble (in the name of righing great wrongs or otherwise)? —C.Fred (talk) 23:04, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Let's be constructive then. Why are you deleting my work? As I said, I'm new to the technical stuff, but the information is correct. Keekash
 * Please read the above messages, people are already trying to tell you why they are "deleting [your] work". Waggie (talk) 23:11, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Two reasons. One, other editors have identified concerns that your edits violate WP:BLP. Second, your edit history shows that you've engaged in WP:Edit warring. You must participate in discussion on the talk page and get consensus to change the article. Users who revert the same page three or more times within 24 hours are subject to being blocked. —C.Fred (talk) 23:12, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, haven't you reverted it more? What there needs to be discussed? Where can I put the fact that the guy is a convicted criminal then? Keekash
 * The article already mentions his conviction and sentence. Meters (talk) 23:17, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I've only reverted the article one time. You've reverted four times with your named account, and that doesn't include reverts you made with an IP before creating the account. —C.Fred (talk) 23:20, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Removing BLP-violating content is not subject to 3RR. Also please read WP:POINT and WP:SOCK. Also see below. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:23, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
 * It also says that his occupation is a journalist which is not true. His primary occupation is criminal. Severina (singer) won a lawsuit against him and Index and he just made it look on paper like the company is somebody else's. This guy does nothing, but travel and collect lawsuits and makes us all look like fools because of his connections with criminal underground. What can we do about that lie which states that he's a journalist when it's clear that he only owns the website (not even that on paper) and that he never finished school except highschool which has nothing to do with journalism.Keekash
 * Also, can you please speak in English or at least put a link. What's 3RR? Keekash
 * Also, please don't hold me responsible if somebody else reverts it back. I've been proud of my work and I've shown it to people. His site is destroying our country. Keekash
 * It was linked above, but- WP:3RR (the three-revert rule). As for "what can we do", we repeat what is stated in reliable sources, regardless of what that is; we don't editorialize by calling it a lie. Wikipedia operates on the principle of verifiability, not truth. If somebody else edits it back, you won't be responsible, but you will be responsible if you pretend to be someone else to revert it back. Also, to be entirely clear, you don't own articles; it's natural (and good!) to be proud of your work, but anybody is able to edit it in any way. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:34, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
 * As a programmer, I'm shocked how badly Wikipedia works. I love it as a reader, but discussions like this, writing articles like this, I'm a little bit ashamed that we don't have a better software for this. I think it's better for me to develop a new version of Wikipedia which will be user friendly then fighting over technical issues like this. I can't believe that we're doing this in 2021. - Keekash
 * Ok, I get it, I was a little excited and with the combination of this shitty software, it can quickly become a mess. I don't think I'm gonna do this anymore, I'm gonna stick to programming, this is useless. - Keekash
 * "Better software" would still operate under the same conduct and content policies. There are no technical issues involved in this discussion, only your conduct. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:45, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Better software wouldn't have some dumb "rules" that you talk about and link and have to read about, it simply wouldn't allow you to do what's not allowed. This is insane. - Keekash

How does "rules" equate to software, firstly? Secondly, when you get a driver's license, you have to learn about the laws and such first. You don't just get into the driver's seat of a car one day and it just takes care of everything for you, even all the most modern driver assistance technologies aren't guaranteed to stop you getting in an accident. You have to take responsibility for what you write, and you need to engage in Wikipedia enough to understand our policies and guidelines. We're happy to help you learn what those guidelines and policies are, but arguing with us and threatening to abuse our site and violate our Terms of Use will get you nowhere. Waggie (talk) 23:59, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Discretionary sanctions notification
-- Nick (talk) 23:12, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Blocked from editing Matija Babić
Given the repeated WP:BLP violations and other conduct including a declared intent to edit-war to keep the violating content in the article, you have been blocked from editing (parblock) Matija Babić for an indefinite period of time. You are free to edit anywhere else on Wikipedia, including that article's talk page to suggest edits and build consensus for additions to the article. We do want your contributions here, but you have to be willing to edit within Wikipedia's policies. Given there's the start of constructive discussion above, once an understanding of policy and agreement to work within it is clearly stated, this parblock may be lifted. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:24, 16 January 2021 (UTC)