User talk:Keep your fork, there's pie

Sorry, I've unblocked this page. The suspicion was because your account was created at the same time as a group of six sockpuppets (with similarly unusual usernames) that were used for multiple page move vandalism. But again, I apologize. NawlinWiki (talk) 02:05, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Makes perfect sense, no harm done. BTW, my weird username comes from this old story. Anyways, thanks again for the unblock. Keep your fork, there&#39;s pie (talk) 02:18, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

April - National Contribution Month
Good day Keep your fork, there&#39;s pie,

During the month of April, Wikimedia Canada is preparing the National Contribution Month, and we are looking for experienced contributors to organize a contribution day (or half-day) in their region.

Contribution days are activities where Wikipedia's contributors, students, or anybody interested in contributing to Wikipedia meets together to collectively improve a predetermined theme. This meetings generally take place in library where references are easy of access, but can be organized in any communal room. Beside improving articles, a goal of this participatory workshops is to initiate neophyte in the cooperative contribution of Wikipedia.

If you are interested in organizing or participating in a contribution day in your region, communicate witht he national team on the project's talk page. The exact agenda of each local event is left to the discretion of the organizer. Help is available for the organization from contributors who already organized these type of days, so don't be worried. If you have any questions or want more information, don't hesitate to contact us.

Amqui (talk) 02:21, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Pocket Knife
In the article Pocket Knife, it mentions that the knives made for cyclists have chain-breakers. I am curious if you know what they are, and what one looks like? Hardcoreromancatholic (talk) 01:03, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Something like this I suppose? I don't know much about cycling. Keep your fork, there&#39;s pie (talk) 12:28, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

arbcom case of kafziel and hasteur
Hello KYFTP, you can call me 74. Saw your reply on the arbcom page... do you have any suggestions on how the train-wreck will hmm... could uh, might in *any* way conceivably in some fashion be salvaged? The arbs have kinda painted themselves into a corner; they are arguing whether or not Hasteur should be banned to help AfC, or admonished to help AfC, when in fact Hasteur decided that the arbs even considering such things was a clear signal to leave. Similarly, the arbs are arguing whether Kafziel was too sassy to arbcom, or if there is somehow evidence that he was too sassy in general during the past seven years... but again, Kafziel decided that if the arbs were to accept the case in the first place, it was a clear signal to leave. There are some 'principle' things on the table... including P7 which by my reading completely overturns WP:NOTBUREAUCRACY (or at least attempts to do so), and is one bangSupport away from passing. What is the way out, with the least damage, if you see one? Thanks. p.s. Like the uid, and if you dislike the five-letter-shorthand, I don't mind typing out the  longer form. :-)   &mdash; 74.192.84.101 (talk) 06:43, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Huh... it turns out I already knew you. (grin)  And re-engagement is ongoing... whilst fortunately or unfortunately, this arby's interaction is finally about to end.


 * It looks like the Kafziel desysop isn't going to be based on


 * wp:adminabuse of tools ("F0"... never tried... not even brought up by the arbs... implicitly 13 opposed vs 0 in favor),
 * wp:battleground attitude (F3... first try... 8 opposed vs 5 in favor),
 * wp:puppet abuse of multiple accounts (F5 after renumbering... second try... 2 opposed + 2 abstain vs 2.5 in favor),
 * nor even several flavors of wp:adminacct (F6.1 for responses at user_talk:kafziel... which failed as F3 above...
 * F6.2 for responses at ANI thread... which also failed as F3 above...
 * F6.3 for failure to say much beyond than 'ditto my ANI stance' when arbcom took the case... which technically passed as F6 with 2 opposed + 3 abstaining versus 8 in favor
 * But arbcom was *very* uneasy, especially in their 'support' statements, with the de facto precedent set by this "lack of substantial response to arbcom" verdict  because that alone, all by itself, was not the Real Reason... rather it was the larger situation, the overall sum of all the actions and all the conduct and all the pieces put together.
 * Unbeknowest to us folks outside the sekrit arbcom discussions, SilkTork had 'kindly' volunteered to email Kafziel, and therefore a large portion of arbcom's determination that kafziel must be desysop'd was the until-now-unstated ...


 * F6.4, "saying fuck in an email to the arbs".
 * Yet, the arbs were doubly-unhappy, because they didn't want to be the bad guy, and publicly link the multiple accounts,
 * and they didn't want to be the bad guy and publicly reveal the contents of private email,
 * and they didn't want to be the bad guy and desysop under lack of "substantial" response F6.3  ...
 * So in the end, Kafziel saved face for the arbs,


 * 1) first by re-engaging so they would not be squeamish about desysop'ing in absentia (plus zeroth by refusing to profusely apologize as before),
 * 2) second by linking the accounts himself on an arb case-page,
 * 3) third by publishing the contents of the email himself, and
 * 4) fourth by just being himself (as Kafziel said in his original statements to arbcom... if the charge is that Kafziel is not nice, then guilty is the answer :-)
 * Last but by no means least, EdChem came to the rescue, and drafted a combined overall statement of Generic Bad Conduct, which instead of trying to dechunkify everything into tiny little orthogonally independent axioms, each of which could be neatly mapped to a specific policy-paragraph, simply combined all the complaints into a superchunk.  There were still *references* made to all the same policy-areas that failed to justify desysop alone...


 * contested actions but no wp:adminabuse,
 * frustration at talkpage&ANI but not quite wp:battleground,
 * lack of profuse response to the arbs but of course wp:required,
 * use of multiple accounts borderline,
 * generally concerning 'tude per wp:nice,
 * saying fuck to the arbs off-wiki,
 * all of which adds up in some way (vague in the specifics but still reasonably clear ... like an impressionist painting) to a violation of the various provisions of admin accountability,
 * and the balance of the evidence says that in the current wikiCulture (as opposed to the wikiCulture of just a few years ago)
 * Kafziel must therefore be desysop'd.
 * In other words, *rich* with irony of the first class, EdChem helped the arbs use WP:IAR as the means to desysyop Kafziel, being that the arbs were apparently unable to formulate a way of using WP:IAR for this desysop-purpose themselves, although I'll note they've been *acting* (in their verdict-writing as opposed to their FoF-writing) according to the tenets thereof all along. :-)    Live by the sword, die by the sword, seems to be the moral of the fable.


 * Definitely thought the whole thing was a fiasco (plenty of lessons-learned in a wide variety of areas around the 'pedia will come of it with any luck), but do hope you'll decide to stick anyways, and for that matter, hope Hasteur will also. This was an eye-opening proceeding, for me anyhoo.  It was a pleasure to make your acquaintance, I hope to see you around the wikiverse (under whatever uid), and wish you the best.  Thanks for improving wikipedia, as I always tend to say... it's especially appreciated today.    &mdash; 74.192.84.101 (talk) 19:39, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

New 10,000 Challenge for Canada
Hi, WikiProject Canada/The 10,000 Challenge is up and running based on The 10,000 Challenge for the UK which has currently produced over 2300 article improvements and creations. If you'd like to see large scale quality improvements happening for Canada like The Africa Destubathon, which has produced over 1600 articles in 5 weeks, sign up on the page. The idea will be an ongoing national editathon/challenge for Canada but fuelled by a contest such as The North America Destubathon to really get articles on every province and subject mass improved. I would like some support from Canadian wikipedians here to get the Challenge off to a start with some articles to make doing a Destubathon worthwhile! Cheers. --MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:55, 22 November 2016 (UTC)